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Storm Ciara - Reports/Chat/Non Technical

  • 08-02-2020 9:25am
    #1
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Hi Folks

    New thread for all chat and non-technical discussion in relation to Storm Ciara.

    Off ya go....


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  • #2
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,597 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Hi Folks

    New thread for all chat and non-technical discussion in relation to Storm Ciara.

    Off ya go....

    Lads, what do you think are the chances of an orange upgrade for western counties between now and tomorrow afternoon?

    I need to decide in the next few minutes if I have to cancel an event. It’s a sleepover for beaver scouts (ages 6-8)
    It will take place indoors in Clare (Quinn, 30km away from the coast) but these are very young kids and lots of them will be away from home and their parents for the first time so if the weather is going to be worse than the usual yellow level weather overnight or tomorrow morning then this could be a bit scary for them, and the venue is next to a river so is there a risk of flooding in this part of the country?


  • #3
    pad199207
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Snow will be the bigger disruptive influence rather than wind over the next few days.

    Your a brave breed of frog i tell ye ;)


  • #4
    KingJeremy
    Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭KingJeremy


    Im no weather expert and wouldn't have a clue about charts etc...but I'd postpone it!


  • #5
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Tough call Akrasia!

    It would not surprise me if other counties along the western seaboard are added to Orange warning during the day.


  • #6
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,597 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    KingJeremy wrote: »
    Im no weather expert and wouldn't have a clue about charts etc...but I'd postpone it!

    We’re leaning towards this option just from a risk assessment perspective. It would be a huge disappointment for the kids who are really looking forward to it so I don’t want to overreact if it’s a northern county event and Clare just gets a Normal wet and windy February day


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  • #7
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Excellent post and fascinating re the cats. Mine are erratic today as they were yesterday. The 3 rescues I took in 18 months ago were street cats and they are staying out now by choice. They have shelter in the sheds here. Clearly feel safer when with an open door and half a roof!.

    I learned to respect the weather when in Orkney where fatalities happened if you did not, Same in the islands here. Easy to forget when you are enjoying the thrill, which is also very real and fine.

    For me, no great thrill as we are well weathered out here. Well prepared and very respectful indeed. Aware that were I to be careless and need help it would endanger my neighbours and rescuers.

    Do you have reinforced windows and doors etc? Any other special protective features of your house? Just curious.


  • #8
    nthclare
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    Akrasia wrote: »
    Lads, what do you think are the chances of an orange upgrade for western counties between now and tomorrow afternoon?

    I need to decide in the next few minutes if I have to cancel an event. It’s a sleepover for beaver scouts (ages 6-8)
    It will take place indoors in Clare (Quinn, 30km away from the coast) but these are very young kids and lots of them will be away from home and their parents for the first time so if the weather is going to be worse than the usual yellow level weather overnight or tomorrow morning then this could be a bit scary for them, and the venue is next to a river so is there a risk of flooding in this part of the country?

    The river in Quinn never floods to cause any disruption.
    Its safe enough honestly it wont overflow.
    And from the motorway to Quinn there's never flooding.


  • #9
    NIMAN
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    It looks like a beautiful morning out there, what time are the winds expected to ramp up?


  • #10
    Kermit.de.frog
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    pad199207 wrote: »
    Your a brave breed of frog i tell ye ;)

    3okkpy.jpg

    :D


  • #11
    Gaoth Laidir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Lads, what do you think are the chances of an orange upgrade for western counties between now and tomorrow afternoon?

    I need to decide in the next few minutes if I have to cancel an event. It’s a sleepover for beaver scouts (ages 6-8)
    It will take place indoors in Clare (Quinn, 30km away from the coast) but these are very young kids and lots of them will be away from home and their parents for the first time so if the weather is going to be worse than the usual yellow level weather overnight or tomorrow morning then this could be a bit scary for them, and the venue is next to a river so is there a risk of flooding in this part of the country?

    Should be no problem. Go for it


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  • #12
    Akrasia
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    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Tough call Akrasia!

    It would not surprise me if other counties along the western seaboard are added to Orange warning during the day.

    It’s a bit frustrating that I cannot rely on Met Eireanns warning system. If I knew it would stay as Yellow then we’d definitely go ahead but they have a habit of keeping the warmings low and raising them at the last minute when it’s too late. It kind of defeats the purpose if we have to make a judgment call based on the current warning and having to guess if it’s going to change within hours of the storm arriving


  • #13
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Mod Note: New chat/non-technical discussion thread opened for Storm Ciara:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058052509

    Can we (try and) keep this thread for technical discussion only....and....charts, maps, satellite pics, observations, data and forecasts.

    Please post in the appropriate thread.

    Moderators will move posts as they deem appropriate.

    Please will the mods this time keep a close eye on the chat thread? When this split happened on Lorenzo and Brendan it degenerated into personal attacks and vituperation.

    I honestly think it is healthier and wiser to keep to the one thread as surely no great hardship to scroll past posts you do not like.


    Blessings and peace


  • #14
    Akrasia
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    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    Should be no problem. Go for it

    I agree that it’s most likely going to be fine but we had to make the call to postpone it because even a small chance of an upgrade is too much for this group of kids. If they were older and more experienced I would go ahead

    Thanks for your advice


  • #15
    aisling86
    Registered Users Posts: 589 ✭✭✭aisling86


    Akrasia wrote: »
    It’s a bit frustrating that I cannot rely on Met Eireanns warning system. If I knew it would stay as Yellow then we’d definitely go ahead but they have a habit of keeping the warmings low and raising them at the last minute when it’s too late. It kind of defeats the purpose if we have to make a judgment call based on the current warning and having to guess if it’s going to change within hours of the storm arriving

    Having 2 kids in beavers myself you wont regret postponing it. The rain will be hammering down with v strong winds. I reckon the parents are only waiting for you to cancel.


  • #16
    uchimata83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭uchimata83


    Akrasia wrote: »
    It’s a bit frustrating that I cannot rely on Met Eireanns warning system. If I knew it would stay as Yellow then we’d definitely go ahead but they have a habit of keeping the warmings low and raising them at the last minute when it’s too late.

    I don't understand this at all, met eireann can only go on the data that's available to them and they make a decision based on their experience, they aren't correct all the time, but show me someone who is.


  • #17
    Graces7
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    froog wrote: »
    Do you have reinforced windows and doors etc? Any other special protective features of your house? Just curious.

    I live in what is called a "demountable dwelling" ie a good level above a caravan. Very well concreted in! The windows are double glazed and the dwelling lies east west so the gable end faces the prevailing southerlies/south westerlies . Very well insulated. And safe, as the roof in an integral part of the structure, Noisy though.. Trad houses out here are stone with thick walls.. very quiet and solid

    As I lived in in Orkney. Solid stone

    It kind of trembles in very strong winds but then so do I :eek:;)


  • #18
    Graces7
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    PLEASE MAY WE HAVE AN ORANGE BANNER! Thank you; so many threads


  • #19
    KingJeremy
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    Akrasia wrote: »
    I agree that it’s most likely going to be fine but we had to make the call to postpone it because even a small chance of an upgrade is too much for this group of kids. If they were older and more experienced I would go ahead

    Thanks for your advice

    I think you did the right thing. The parents are probably delighted :D
    You can schedule it for another weekend when the weather is a bit more on side and everyone will enjoy it all the more


  • #20
    Gaoth Laidir
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    aisling86 wrote: »
    Having 2 kids in beavers myself you wont regret postponing it. The rain will be hammering down with v strong winds. I reckon the parents are only waiting for you to cancel.

    But he said they'll be indoors.


  • #21
    Graces7
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    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    But he said they'll be indoors.

    But there is the getting there in bad weather?


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  • #22
    Snow Garden
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    It's actually sunny in Galway this morning and I can see blue skies.
    I thought I wouldn't see any sun for the whole weekend. Small bit breezy and chilly.


  • #23
    Maggie Benson
    Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭Maggie Benson


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    It's actually sunny in Galway this morning and I can see blue skies.
    I thought I wouldn't see any sun for the whole weekend. Small bit breezy and chilly.

    Thanks Snow Garden but can other posters also indicate what part of the country they live in when giving their local weather updates!


  • #24
    aisling86
    Registered Users Posts: 589 ✭✭✭aisling86


    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    But he said they'll be indoors.

    I know but I could guarantee he will be calling parents at all hours to come collect. My kids did an overnight last June at a scout camp & there was mayhem during the night with no wind and rain. The kids would be petrified listening to that on their (probably) first ever sleepover without it being family.


  • #25
    Jpmarn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    It looks like we're going to be tormented with stormy weather over the next 10 days or so. Ciara this weekend we may have Dennis next Thursday and Friday and probably Ellen over next weekend according to the gfs charts on netweather.tv and these storms may be more severe than Ciara. And with very cold air in play there is a high prospect of snowfall.


  • #26
    je551e
    Registered Users Posts: 440 ✭✭je551e


    Probably a stupid question but is Amber warning in UK the equivalent of orange here? I don’t mean in colour I mean criteria TIA


  • #27
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Didn’t even know this thread was created
    And it seems most contributors don’t as chat continues away on the old now “technical “ thread .........
    Second thread opened on day of event is pointless imo . It’s all chat now !


  • #28
    DOCARCH
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    km79 wrote: »
    Second thread opened on day of event is pointless imo . It’s all chat now !

    Storm Ciara is tomorrow and then we have it's legacy on Monday/Tuesday.


  • #29
    Jpmarn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    km79 wrote: »
    Didn’t even know this thread was created
    And it seems most contributors don’t as chat continues away on the old now “technical “ thread .........
    Second thread opened on day of event is pointless imo . It’s all chat now !

    The mods have started this thread for light and fun chat with regards to this storm. Any photos of upturned trampolines and knocked wheelie bins are welcomed here. Just keep charts and stats to the more serious technical Thread on Storm Ciara.


  • #30
    munsterlegend
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    aisling86 wrote: »
    I know but I could guarantee he will be calling parents at all hours to come collect. My kids did an overnight last June at a scout camp & there was mayhem during the night with no wind and rain. The kids would be petrified listening to that on their (probably) first ever sleepover without it being family.

    Said like a true Irish mammy!


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  • #31
    km79
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    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Storm Ciara is tomorrow and then we have it's legacy on Monday/Tuesday.

    Status orange effective for western counties in just over an hour
    Or are you telling me the hours of wind and rain under these warnings are a seperate even and therefore need another seperate thread .........


  • #32
    Fakediamond
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    je551e wrote: »
    Probably a stupid question but is Amber warning in UK the equivalent of orange here? I don’t mean in colour I mean criteria TIA

    Yes, same thing as our orange warning.


  • #33
    DOCARCH
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    km79 wrote: »
    Status orange effective for western counties in just over an hour.

    And are only in effect for today (quote/copy and paste from ME) 'in advance of the arrival of Storm Ciara on Sunday'.

    Today is not Storm Ciara.

    There will be new/updated warnings for tomorrow.

    This chat thread is in relation to Storm Ciara.
    km79 wrote: »
    ....and therefore need another seperate thread....

    Don't be a smarta**e.


  • #34
    Graces7
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    km79 wrote: »
    Status orange effective for western counties in just over an hour
    Or are you telling me the hours of wind and rain under these warnings are a seperate even and therefore need another seperate thread .........

    It has already worsened greatly out here. Never before has it been so hard to light the solid fuel stove; wind kept blowing down the chimney and blowing the firelighters etc out. Took a serving of cooking oil to sort it. ;)

    Very stormy now. No ocean or mountains or houses, Just dark clouds and solid water sideways on. West mayo offshore.


  • #35
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    And are only in effect for today (quote/copy and paste from ME) 'in advance of the arrival of Storm Ciara on Sunday'.

    Today is not Storm Ciara.

    There will be new/updated warnings for tomorrow.

    This chat thread is in relation to Storm Ciara.



    Don't be a smarta**e.

    The other thread is also titled storm Ciara
    Technical thread
    And all it is is chat about current weather conditions?

    My point was
    Either leave the other thread (the main one ) as the chat thread and open a second thread for technical discussion/charts only
    Or
    Just leave it all in one

    Today is going to be severe in the west . Right up until the clocks turn midnight and Ciara arrives ......there will be plenty of people posting about it as there are now
    Sounds like we needs a separate thread for it so

    Every orange event has gotten one so ......


  • #36
    pad199207
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    Galway culture 2020 cancelled


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  • #37
    km79
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    pad199207 wrote: »
    Galway culture 2020 cancelled

    What caused the cancellation? Storm Ciara won’t impact until tomorrow ?


  • #38
    LRNM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭LRNM


    I was out for an early walk before hitting the poll this morning and it was lovely. The sun was scattering through the clouds at times but you could feel how fresh the breeze was starting to pick up.
    There was a few light wintery showers too.



    The wild life and birds were out frantically foraging. It's interesting to see them prepare.


  • #39
    [Deleted User]
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    pad199207 wrote: »
    Galway culture 2020 cancelled

    That’s a real shame. So much work went into it. But they had no other choice really.


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
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    Jpmarn wrote: »
    It looks like we're going to be tormented with stormy weather over the next 10 days or so. Ciara this weekend we may have Dennis next Thursday and Friday and probably Ellen over next weekend according to the gfs charts on netweather.tv and these storms may be more severe than Ciara. And with very cold air in play there is a high prospect of snowfall.

    A day to go to the cinema and watch The Lighthouse.


  • #41
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    endainoz wrote: »
    There's always one, or in the case of a weather event ten.

    I am a regular contributor to the forum
    I am frustrated as the “technical” thread is clogged up already with rubbish despite a mod warning 3 hours ago saying there was a seperate chat thread

    My point was the other thread was already in full chat flow so should have been left as such and a new technical thread set up

    Also docarch imo was the one nit picking my post

    If today is nothing to do with storm Ciara then why are all current observations etc on other thread being allowed ?
    Shouldn’t there be another thread for today’s orange warning ?
    Or is it just the case that I was suggesting that’s it’s all one big event

    That’s my final post. Won’t bother updating on the weather from South Mayo today. I’ll wait till midnight when it’s ok to post


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  • #42
    [Deleted User]
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    LRNM wrote: »

    The wild life and birds were out frantically foraging. It's interesting to see them prepare.

    Where do the little birds shelter during a storm I wonder. Would be worried about them if we do get a few days of sustained wind followed by snow. They would hide out from the storm and find no food when they come out.

    Regarding the split threads I feel more comfortable posting on a thread like this, some of the weather junkies can be very cranky. When they're left in a thread by themselves just watch, they will eventually turn on each other.


  • #43
    Graces7
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    km79 wrote: »
    What caused the cancellation? Storm Ciara won’t impact until tomorrow ?

    If you look at met,ie warnings? The coastal counties are moving into Orange warnings.. gusts over 100 kph etc . I am West Mayo and it is dire out here now

    Not the weather for any outdoor events.


  • #44
    Graces7
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Where do the little birds shelter during a storm I wonder. Would be worried about them if we do get a few days of sustained wind followed by snow. They would hide out from the storm and find no food when they come out.

    Regarding the split threads I feel more comfortable posting on a thread like this, some of the weather junkies can be very cranky. When they're left in a thread by themselves just watch, they will eventually turn on each other.

    That happens more on the chat threads, seeing what happened on Lorenzo and Brendan, before they got round to cleaning it up .


  • #45
    Graces7
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    WOW.. Such shrieking gusts now.. not nice!


  • #46
    amadangomor
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    Graces7 wrote: »
    WOW.. Such shrieking gusts now.. not nice!
    Stay safe Graces!


  • #47
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Met issued ORANGE wind warning for entire country - take your trampolines in folks!


  • #48
    squarecircles
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    • Status Orange - Wind warning for Donegal and Mayo

      In advance of the arrival of Storm Ciara on Sunday, south to southwest winds on Saturday will reach mean speeds of 65-80km/h with gusts of up to 120 km/h.
      Valid: 12:00 Saturday 08/02/2020 to 16:00 Saturday 08/02/2020
      Issued: 15:00 Friday 07/02/2020

    • Status: Orange Wind warning for Galway
      Status Orange - Wind warning for Galway

      In advance of the arrival of Storm Ciara on Sunday, south to southwest winds on Saturday will reach mean speeds of 65-80km/h with gusts of up to 120 km/h.
      Valid: 13:00 Saturday 08/02/2020 to 18:00 Saturday 08/02/2020
      Issued: 14:00 Friday 07/02/2020

    • Status: Orange Wind warning for Ireland
      Status Orange - Wind warning for Ireland

      On Sunday, Storm Ciara will produce very strong southwest winds with mean speeds of 65 to 80km/h and gusts generally up to 130km/h.

      A combination of Spring Tides and high seas as well as stormy conditions will result in a significant risk of coastal flooding especially along western and northwestern coasts.
      Valid: 05:00 Sunday 09/02/2020 to 12:00 Sunday 09/02/2020
      Issued: 11:00 Thursday 06/02/2020
      Updated: 11:00 Saturday 08/02/2020

    • Status: Yellow Rainfall warning for Ireland
      Status Yellow - Rainfall warning for Ireland

      Saturday, 8th Feb: A spell of heavy rain will spread eastwards across the country on Saturday with 20-40mm expected, highest in the west and northwest.

      Sunday, 9th Feb: Another spell of heavy rain on Sunday will clear to squally wintry showers. Another 20-40mm likely.

      A risk of localised flooding this weekend, especially over the western half of the country.
      Valid: 12:00 Saturday 08/02/2020 to 15:00 Sunday 09/02/2020
      Issued: 11:00 Thursday 06/02/2020



  • #49
    TTLF
    Registered Users Posts: 672 ✭✭✭TTLF
    save the trouble and jazz it up


    Really blustery in South Dublin now! Has been like this all night, the wind woke me up this morning and it’s still going

    Nice lovely light white skies though, sun peaking through, looking out my window it seems everyone is driving a lot slower out of my estate then usual :D


  • #50
    Planet X
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    Sunny and windy.....great for getting the clothes dry :)


  • #51
    JCX BXC
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    km79 wrote: »
    What caused the cancellation? Storm Ciara won’t impact until tomorrow ?

    Galway on an orange warning today until 6pm, it's being heald in a very coastal area of the city called 'the swamp', high winds, high seas, heavy rain, go figure.


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