TAMS II

Sami23 wrote: »

So basically I can forget about it so.

I'd do it anyway I doubt it was over subscribed so you might just have to wait till next tranche.

What Conseng said! I applied for permission in June/July, they asked for extra information though they already had it in the original application. Got my permission in November.

Count Mondego wrote: »

I could have wrote that word for word myself.

For those that submitted in phase 1, is there much work in the costing of it? Do you need quotes etc or just guesstamates?[/quote

What cost is involved in getting the planning roughly as I'm considering a shed myself

Count Mondego wrote: »

I could have wrote that word for word myself.

For those that submitted in phase 1, is there much work in the costing of it? Do you need quotes etc or just guesstamates?

As much or as little work in it as you want. I guess the more work you put into it the more accurate the price you'll get and the more you can benefit from the grant. Note that in the marking scheme for grant approval 80 out of the 120ish marks are for your estimated cost versus the reference cost. If your estimated cost is 80% of the reference costs you get the full 80 marks. We were advised to put in 80% of the reference costs as our estimate to improve our chances of approval as it was over subscribed. Got the approval before Xmas

Count Mondego wrote: »

So you worked exclusively off 80% of the reference cost and didn't price anything outside of that? That was my initial plan also. Did you put down cost relating to your own labour? Thanks for the info.

We did some pricing around, and most of the stuff came in below the reference costs, maybe not the 80% but we were in a bit of a hurry for a milk tank so wanted to increase our chances of getting approval. None of what we sought approval for involved building works so can't answer costing labour.

Sami23 wrote: »

Gonna put up a simple 2-Bay Slatted shed under the YFCIS but need planning permission.
Am I too late now as the current tranche is due to close on March 25th or would I be ok to go ahead ?
Thanks

If that 2 bay shed is not going into an existing farmyard ie. a greenfield site you can apply for a section 5 planning exemption.

Tyson Lannister wrote: »

If that 2 bay shed is not going into an existing farmyard ie. a greenfield site you can apply for a section 5 planning exemption.

I would have agreed with this until recently. I did an application for a farmer in Mayo and Mayo County Council's interpretation of the exemption is that it only applies in an existing farmyard and they won't issue an exemption cert for development in a green field situation.

conseng wrote: »

I would have agreed with this until recently. I did an application for a farmer in Mayo and Mayo County Council's interpretation of the exemption is that it only applies in an existing farmyard and they won't issue an exemption cert for development in a green field situation.

Yes I got caught with similar but it was in a SAC. Turns out you can't break ground in a SAC without planning, but up on an existing concrete slab would have been ok. Would it have been the same with you?

dohc turbo2 wrote: »

Ya that's true , all structural steel must be ce marked , farm building is class 1 about 15000 to do it , more paper work than anything . Steel has come well down so price around and make sure there ce approved and ul get a good price,

is that just the steel or does the erector need the course too?

Tyson Lannister wrote: »

Yes I got caught with similar but it was in a SAC. Turns out you can't break ground in a SAC without planning, but up on an existing concrete slab would have been ok. Would it have been the same with you?

No. Basically their interpretation of the exemption covering up to 200m2 of animal housing is that it only applies in an existing farmyard. It must also have safe access to the main road to be exempt.

dohc turbo2 wrote: »

The steel , it's really all about traceability , where u get the mig gas , welding wire , and steel , and either paint or dipping , all had to be of a certain standard. There is a lot of steel around at moment , loads in England brought in from China and its full of carbon , eg sheets being folded are splitting and something welded if it gets a bang is breaking , it's a lot to do with the last big storm too from insurance companies

How does it cost 15k though?? Is it just a once off spend for the builder? Sorry for all the questions but I just cant get my head around it.

Tyson Lannister wrote: »

Count Mondego wrote: »

How much of the 1500 was for the draughtsman?

I just engaged an architect. I had the design drawn out, all he had to do was put it on cad, a few changes and submit it. 1500 covered everything from him and planning fees, advert in paper etc. You'll also have to have a agri planner do a nutrient management plan as part of the planning application. important part. They then made me do an environmental impact assessment which cost more again.

I though 1500 was a bit steep for the few hours he had to do, but what can you do.

Got turned down for a grant for a milking machine today.

Well that's not entirely true, I got approved subject to an internal agitation point at the other end of the yard being removed, which won't be happening. Don't know what relevance an agitation point has with a milking machine and I wouldn't mind but it's only used for 10 mins a year to mix the last 10 ft that you can't get from the other end which is outside. It's also right beside a fully open side of the building so I don't see it as an issue from a health and safety point of view.

I'm wondering has this happened to anyone else? Or has anyone got full approval even though they have an internal agitation point in the yard? I'd be interested to hear the views of those of you that are more experienced in dealing with these pen pushers.