Dealz

Marhay70 · 24-03-2014 3:02pm

irishproduce wrote: »

Ok snubbleste, then if the strategy of using smaller size packaging doesn't work because the size/ weight is on the packet, do you think they would engage in it?
I think it makes no difference if the size or weight of the product was in big bold writing across the centre - not everyone watches the price per kilo, price per ltr etc

Manufacturers and wholesalers have been doing this for years, particularly in the area of confectionery and ice cream. Bars of chocolate, packets of biscuits, crisps etc. are all smaller in size than what they used to be. There is no statutory obligation to make these items in any particular size, just to state what that size is and the price per unit of measure.
Do people need to be led by the hand? All the required information is there for you to make your choice, if you think Tesco or Dunnes are better value, buy there but don't be misled into thinking that the large supermarkets don't engage in the same tactics. I have often come across items marked "big value pack" only to find that two smaller packs adding up to the same volume, actually cost less. They call it marketing.

Macy0161 · 24-03-2014 3:11pm

irishproduce wrote: »

Ok snubbleste, then if the strategy of using smaller size packaging doesn't work because the size/ weight is on the packet, do you think they would engage in it?

It works because of consumers not checking (I've been guilty of it myself, although it was centra that caught me out!). I don't see it as particularly underhand tbh - how can you compare prices/ products without checking sizes, even within the same store? At the very least, it's no more underhand than Tesco's use of yellow pricing labels on stuff that isn't actually on offer, and being lazy about leaving expired yellow labels on shelves (which my regular one is a bugger for).

Incidentally, as it was discussed earlier - coke/ diet coke/ coke zero on 2 for €3 in Dunnes at the moment.

Cherrycoke · 24-03-2014 7:00pm

jjbrien wrote: »

Most of the dealz stuff is false economy or the same or better deal in Tesco/Dunnes/SuperValu etc

Sarsons Vinegar 1.49 in dealz SuperValu its 98 cent

Sarsons vinegar is actually 2 for €1.49, always has been, which makes it cheaper than Supervalu.

Or you can mix and match it with salt for the same price

Greenmachine · 25-03-2014 1:12pm

Cherrycoke wrote: »

Sarsons vinegar is actually 2 for €1.49, always has been, which makes it cheaper than Supervalu.

Or you can mix and match it with salt for the same price

Chip off the old block. I'll get my cod...

...err my coat.

kn · 25-03-2014 1:24pm

Was watching C4 on retail selling scams last night and one they pointed out is that the €1.49 HDMI cable in Dealz (£1 in the UK Poundland) produces the exact same quality HD resolution as do the HDMI cables retailing at £80!

25-03-2014 1:26pm

kn wrote: »

Was watching C4 on retail selling scams last night and one they pointed out is that the €1.49 HDMI cable in Dealz (£1 in the UK Poundland) produces the exact same quality HD resolution as do the HDMI cables retailing at £80!

Everyone knows that. The signal is sent digitally and it either works or it doesn't.

L1011 · 25-03-2014 1:59pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Everyone knows that. The signal is sent digitally and it either works or it doesn't.

Except the people who've been conned in to paying for Monster and similar ones by dodgy salesmen and incompetent "technology experts" (Karlin Lillington, I'm looking at you here) in the media.

25-03-2014 2:04pm

MYOB wrote: »

Except the people who've been conned in to paying for Monster and similar ones by dodgy salesmen and incompetent "technology experts" (Karlin Lillington, I'm looking at you here) in the media.

Honestly anyone who blindly believes a salesperson is asking for it. The only real difference between Monster cables and the Dealz one is build quality. While I'd never pay for a Monster lead they are well made and far more durable than the €1.49 cable.

Quickly checked out that C4 programme that was mentioned and it was rather poorly put together. The presenter repeatedly mentioned the experts who would be shown the various cables to see if they could notice the difference. The so called experts were little more than 3 randomers they picked up off the street.

StaticNoise · 25-03-2014 2:20pm

kn wrote: »

Was watching C4 on retail selling scams last night[...]

That's the episode of Dispatches. Its a bloody good watch too. Dealz, or Poundland, in itself is not a scam, but the sales practises are misleading sometimes. Packets may look the same on branded products, but there are less contents. For example, a bag of Haribo may be the same size, but with less contents. Weetabix is sold in smaller sizes, etc. Look at the label and the weight before buying.

The baked beans are a perfect example. Three tins for €1.49, but they are smaller tins. You'd get six for around two in Dunnes or Tesco, on offer.

These are examples, but worth noting. Dealz are great for end of life books at cheap prices. Handy for the unwanted Kris Kindle presents for the family.

Macy0161 · 25-03-2014 2:30pm

StaticNoise wrote: »

The baked beans are a perfect example. Three tins for €1.49, but they are smaller tins. You'd get six for around two in Dunnes or Tesco, on offer.

It's a bit harsh to try and make out dealz/ poundland are the only ones that are less than clear on value for money. Many "bigger packs"/ multipacks in the mainstream supermarkets are more expensive than buying multiple smaller packs, with the clear intention of fooling the consumer who logically thinks bigger pack equals better value. For me, there's no difference between that practice and what Dealz is accused of. The only answer is to educate consumers to check!

JONJO THE MISER · 25-03-2014 2:41pm

Love dealz, do most of my junk food shopping there now.
A quick example a 4 pack of frys turkish delight 1.50 and its 3.17 in Tesco.
Cadburys mini rolls 10 pack 1.50 and it 3.00 in dunnes.

StaticNoise · 25-03-2014 2:53pm

Macy0161 wrote: »

It's a bit harsh to try and make out dealz/ poundland are the only ones that are less than clear on value for money. Many "bigger packs"/ multipacks in the mainstream supermarkets are more expensive than buying multiple smaller packs, with the clear intention of fooling the consumer who logically thinks bigger pack equals better value. For me, there's no difference between that practice and what Dealz is accused of. The only answer is to educate consumers to check!

I am not trying to make out that Dealz or Poundland, or any discount retailer, is a big dodgy with their pricing practises. The Dispatches documentary says the same. There is a lot of bargains to be had (and they are welcomed), and their own branded goods are more than good value, however the buyer must beware when they are buying mainstream brands, as they are not always as good value.

Taken from the documentary (emphasis and clarification added):

Dispatches wanted to get to the bottom of how the company [kept raising profits, whilst offering bargains]. How does it keep on increasing its profits, when it has an 'inflation-busting style' that gives shoppers 'irresistible value', a statement it prints on posters in many of its shops?

Well, it is not inflation-busting in the strictest sense of the word. Many of its items have shrunk as the chief executive Jim McCarthy has admitted. He calls it 're-engineering'.

In recent years the shrinking has been quite severe. Back in 2007 shoppers would have got 10 packs of Quavers in a family bag for £1. This was reduced to seven packs last year, and shrunk further to five packs this year. Last year £1 got you 12 Kodak AA batteries; it is now 11. Toblerone, Cadbury chocolate fingers, Wotsit crisps - all have shrunk.

It also sells a number of popular items in non-standard sizes. For instance, a loaf of Warburton's sliced white bread for £1, which appears to be fantastic value until you realise it is a 600g loaf, rather than the 800g size, which has been the standard size for bread since the Victorian era. You can pick up two 800g Warburton loaves for £2 at Tesco this week.

Poundland point out that the size of the loaf is clearly printed on the packaging.

The company has various other canny marketing and packaging tricks to encourage shoppers to spend.

The most common of which is to shout very loudly on the packaging of goods that their customers are getting '50% extra free' or '60% extra free' or even '100% extra free'.

So, shoppers can pick up eight bars of two-finger Kit Kats for £1. This is sold with a large yellow banner around the multipack saying '5 plus 3 bars, 60% Extra free'. Asda is currently selling the same eight Kit Kats for £1, but without the '60% extra free' flash. And the supermarket describes them as 8 bars, not 5 plus 3.

Both are clearly labelled. Both are good value. But one is shouting about it, and the other isn't.

Yes, Dealz is a fantastic store, but do your homework before you go wild.

For those looking for the episode on Poundland (and other bargain retailers), you can watch it on the Channel 4 website.

Greenmachine · 25-03-2014 3:20pm

People just need to be wary. Plenty of switzel & matlow products are common across the different discounter. In plenty of them normal bags are €1 (not dealz in this case).
Then the bag with 40% free are €1.50. (These are 40% larger than the €1 bags)
Making the €1 bags the better value.

brian_gall85 · 25-03-2014 5:31pm

StaticNoise wrote: »

That's the episode of Dispatches. Its a bloody good watch too.

It is a good watch, but the programme on last night wasn't the Dispatches one.

styron · 25-03-2014 6:46pm

Misleading by Dispatches to spin reactive competitor price reductions as unconnected and imply spoilers run were infact the normal price:

Dispatches wrote:

It also sells a number of popular items in non-standard sizes. For instance, a loaf of Warburton's sliced white bread for £1, which appears to be fantastic value until you realise it is a 600g loaf, rather than the 800g size, which has been the standard size for bread since the Victorian era. You can pick up two 800g Warburton loaves for £2 at Tesco this week.

But only until 31/3 after which it reverts to the standard £1.45 per 800g loaf

Dispatches wrote:

So, shoppers can pick up eight bars of two-finger Kit Kats for £1. This is sold with a large yellow banner around the multipack saying '5 plus 3 bars, 60% Extra free'. Asda is currently selling the same eight Kit Kats for £1, but without the '60% extra free' flash. And the supermarket describes them as 8 bars, not 5 plus 3.

Both are clearly labelled. Both are good value. But one is shouting about it, and the other isn't.

Possibly because Asda have now upped the price to £1.59 and any "60% extra free" flash wouldn't have allowed them increase it.

Here, Dealz currently offer a Walkers 'Deep Ridged' 5 x 28g multipack for €1.49. Tesco have the same on offer at €2.00 until 8/4 when it should go back to €2.29.

It's a good sign that supermarkets are responsive enough to poundshops that they try to run spoiler promo's like never before - but it's a deceptive comparison against day-to-day prices.

rubadub · 25-03-2014 7:03pm

Warburton's sliced white bread for £1, which appears to be fantastic value until you realise it is a 600g loaf, rather than the 800g size, which has been the standard size for bread since the Victorian era. You can pick up two 800g Warburton loaves for £2 at Tesco this week.

So you have to buy 1600g of bread rather than 600g. I value the smaller size higher per gram as I would not eat 1.6kg of bread anytime soon.

Instead of comparing 600g to 1600g, the fairer comparison is to the next nearest size. Which is 80c for various Warburton brand 400g loaves in tesco, which is £1.20 per 600g.

Greenmachine · 25-03-2014 8:53pm

rubadub wrote: »

So you have to buy 1600g of bread rather than 600g. I value the smaller size higher per gram as I would not eat 1.6kg of bread anytime soon.

Instead of comparing 600g to 1600g, the fairer comparison is to the next nearest size. Which is 80c for various Warburton brand 400g loaves in tesco, which is £1.20 per 600g.

I agree with I would get a loaf maybe every 4-5 days. Don't eat bread every day. I don't need two loafs, I only have an ice-box. Mostly use dealz myself for a few treats before heading to the cinema. Some energy drinks at the weekend if we are drinking.

jeffk · 25-03-2014 10:47pm

brian_gall85 wrote: »

It is a good watch, but the programme on last night wasn't the Dispatches one.

Secrets of the High Street

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3129814/

Greenmachine · 25-03-2014 11:03pm

jeffk wrote: »

Secrets of the High Street

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3129814/

[HTML]Budget
£1,500 (estimated)[/HTML]

Time for a crowd fund I smell a documentary.

ronanc1000 · 26-03-2014 1:04am

If you go to college, dealz is your best friend! Was like a small kid in big sweet shop the first time i walked in there! Great value! Cheap and cheerful! Lol

Greenmachine · 26-03-2014 10:20am

Slighty off topic. Who is cheaper in this case Poundland or Asda?
http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/25/thats-not-asda-price-shopper-charged-450-for-loaf-of-bread-4678396/?ITO=facebook

Wonder if they have a double the difference policy like Tesco. Can see them fighting it pretty hard in this case if they did.

snubbleste · 02-07-2014 6:29pm

Whitworths Sugar 1.2kg €1.00 - nearest is TescoValue Sugar 1kg for €1.19

rubadub · 02-07-2014 7:27pm

snubbleste wrote: »

Whitworths Sugar 1.2kg €1.00 - nearest is TescoValue Sugar 1kg for €1.19

Tesco regular caster sugar is 1.09 per kilo in most cases this can be used instead of granulated, often it is better. Usually caster sugar costs more as there is more processing. 500g of the same style tesco caster sugar is 98cent

http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=252869148

People in another thread reckoned this was to match aldi and/or lidls caster sugar price. Tesco usually only have a small section of this caster sugar so it goes unnoticed, people just presume the "value" stuff will be cheapest.

I expect the "value" sugar is the exact same as the regular granulated anyway. The cheap tesco caster is not advertised in anyway, like lots of the best tesco bargains.

I saw 2kg bags of cooking salt for 1.49 in dealz

snubbleste · 02-07-2014 7:33pm

I don't buy sugar, therefore did know that rubadub
The Dealz offer is still cheaper though

rubadub · 02-07-2014 7:35pm

snubbleste wrote: »

The Dealz offer is still cheaper though

indeed, I posted about it in the homebrew wine & beer forum just now

FourFourRED · 02-07-2014 8:05pm

snubbleste wrote: »

Whitworths Sugar 1.2kg €1.00 - nearest is TescoValue Sugar 1kg for €1.19

Are you sure? I'm 99% certain the Dealz sugar is €1.19? Or is it a special promotion?

tharmor · 02-07-2014 8:06pm

Aodhagan wrote: »

Are you sure? I'm 99% certain the Dealz sugar is €1.19? Or is it a special promotion?

They have offer rit now...

kn · 02-07-2014 8:13pm

snubbleste wrote: »

Whitworths Sugar 1.2kg €1.00 - nearest is TescoValue Sugar 1kg for €1.19

They cut the price from €1.19?

EDIT: found it. Does not say if this is a 'permanent' cut or just a promotion though.

http://www.dealz.ie/food-and-drink/grocery/essential-shopping/whitworths-white-sugar-1-2kg

snubbleste · 02-07-2014 8:16pm

Jeez! I thought you guys liked me..
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RobbingBandit · 02-07-2014 8:26pm

Bought some Reese's Pieces today, holy fúck now I know why they have been mentioned in every US sitcom or cartoon show ever.

Cherrycoke · 03-07-2014 10:47am

The peanut butter M&M's are the reason my jeans no longer fit me

RobbingBandit · 03-07-2014 3:22pm

Cherrycoke wrote: »

The peanut butter M&M's are the reason my jeans no longer fit me

I am a diabetic so the sugar is bad enough without the added high salt content, still I only gonna live once.

kn · 03-07-2014 4:41pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

I am a diabetic so the sugar is bad enough without the added high salt content, still I only gonna live once.

And maybe not for much longer either......

styron · 03-07-2014 5:10pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

I am a diabetic so the sugar is bad enough without the added high salt content, still I only gonna live once.

Don't worry, as always - Dealz has your back:

Capt'n Midnight · 04-07-2014 10:56pm

rubadub wrote: »

Tesco regular caster sugar is 1.09 per kilo in most cases this can be used instead of granulated, often it is better. Usually caster sugar costs more as there is more processing. 500g of the same style tesco caster sugar is 98cent

http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=252869148

People in another thread reckoned this was to match aldi and/or lidls caster sugar price.

Except the Lidl sugar is FairTrade

Rucking_Fetard · 04-07-2014 11:07pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Except the Lidl sugar is FairTrade

How much of it?

snubbleste · 05-08-2014 10:45am

Mycycle sunglasses have a picture of an adult male wearing sunglasses on the packaging..
Yet they are ridiculously small. Mine snapped at the front due to pressure and yes I did try them on before purchase.

GekkePrutser · 13-08-2014 7:01pm

Marhay70 wrote: »

Manufacturers and wholesalers have been doing this for years, particularly in the area of confectionery and ice cream. Bars of chocolate, packets of biscuits, crisps etc. are all smaller in size than what they used to be.

Indeed... Notice how the YORKIE bars used to have Y O R K I E on the individual squares? They don't do that anymore since you now only get 5 of them

Very sneaky.

vicwatson · 13-08-2014 8:06pm

GekkePrutser wrote: »

Indeed... Notice how the YORKIE bars used to have Y O R K I E on the individual squares? They don't do that anymore since you now only get 5 of them Very sneaky.

Ray D'Arcy show anyone?

snubbleste · 23-08-2014 11:03am

Today's Sun have a €3 coupon. I assume the minimum spend is €18 - could someone confirm this?

snubbleste · 23-08-2014 8:21pm

It's actually e3 off e15 spend into end August.

Mollyd90 · 25-08-2014 2:09pm

used my voucher today thanks for posting. got a voucher for 15% off in Shoezone because I spent over €8.

snubbleste · 05-09-2014 4:33pm

2x1l UHT milk for €1.49 or 75c/l
Tesco/Lidl equivalent is 85c/l

Ron DMC · 05-09-2014 4:35pm

snubbleste wrote: »

2x1l UHT milk for €1.49 or 75c/l
Tesco/Lidl equivalent is 85c/l

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBwwcU2c3u4

snubbleste · 20-10-2014 4:38pm

My local Dealz is selling their ice-cream lollies at half price. I assume they are getting rid of the freezer or there is less demand in winter.

Cyber Ghost · 20-10-2014 6:03pm

Love the four 250ml bottles of Pepsi for 1.49.

Perfect size

ActingDanClark · 20-10-2014 6:53pm

Bought hardback version of "the quarry" by iain banks for £1 in poundIand last week, worth looking in dealz to see if they've stock, 27.50 here

eoin1539 · 20-10-2014 9:53pm

I bought 2 HDMI cables there and a hoover for my keyboard. Great shop for bits and bobs

GotTheTshirt · 20-10-2014 10:23pm

eoin1539 wrote: »

I bought 2 HDMI cables there and a hoover for my keyboard. Great shop for bits and bobs

My hdmi cable went tots up this evening. What length are they?

eoin1539 · 20-10-2014 10:44pm

GotTheTshirt wrote: »

My hdmi cable went tots up this evening. What length are they?

2 meters. I've had mine for nearly a year now and they're still working perfect, I'd highly recommend for you to get them :pac:

Dealz

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