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All year residential mobile home parks?

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  • #102
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Mod Note

    Orlak2410, please read the forum charter before posting again.

    Do not reply to this post.


  • #103
    KB22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭KB22


    What are you on about regarding what I have posted ? Explain yourself.


  • #104
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,581 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    KB22 wrote: »
    What are you on about regarding what I have posted ? Explain yourself.

    This account has never posted on this forum before at all. Precisely who are you replying on behalf of?


  • #105
    SplangeNut
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭SplangeNut


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058112456/all-year-residential-mobile-home-parks

    I'm re-asking the above question from Orlak2410 in 2024 as I need a home option due to financial difficulty and probably losing my house soon…



  • #106
    SplangeNut
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭SplangeNut


    Actually, I'm not tied to Dublin. Anywhere in Ireland would do.



  • #107
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,581 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There basically aren't any. None would have planning for full time occupation. There were some that had permission from the 70s/80s but they're all either already gone or not allowing new residents/replacement trailers.

    Also, they aren't even vaguely cheap to begin with.



  • #108
    SplangeNut
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭SplangeNut


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122425278#Comment_122425278

    I know two so far... One in Donegal and one in Bettystown (for which there's a waiting list).



  • #109
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,581 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122425583#Comment_122425583

    I would be amazed at either having permission for 365 day occupation. Owners willing to turn a blind eye doesn't prevent council enforcement.

    Because they're so incredibly unsuitable for full time occupation in our climate, councils/ABP simply do not give permission for anything other than holiday usage, usually an 11 month max.

    And the price of a decent unit in a decent holiday park can be similar to buying a house in a cheaper area - 300-500k for the fancy Brittas Bay parks.



  • #110
    Orlak2410
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Orlak2410


    Brainless beauracrats working in local authorities making these silly little rules like "they're unsuitable for long term occupancy" so "they can only be used for 11 out of 12 months".

    Say that to the single Irish person who falls through the cracks and is forced to live on the streets, in a homeless shelter or on someone's sofa.



  • #111
    RichardAnd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122426477#Comment_122426477

    The state should not have input into matters like this. If someone wants to stay in a mobile home in winter, then let them do it. I'd take it over being homeless.

    The civil-servant was the proto reddit-brain…



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  • #112
    Orlak2410
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Orlak2410


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122428404#Comment_122428404

    Sure they'd just hide behind the good old "these measures are put in place to protect people from living in sub-standard accomodation". I'd live to see how far they'd go to protect you when you're homeless. Are they going to open up their home to you? Are they even going to throw a euro in your cup when they pass you on the street? Absolute joke of a country. We are living though a housing crisis that is not just a "few year long" ordeal. It has been going on at least 10 years now and will probably last another 10 at least. An entire generation are missing out on the milestones and rites of passage that previous generations took for granted. Desperate times call for desperate measures.



  • #113
    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,633 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Reading through the thread I thought Graces7 was back! 🙄🤯

    Beach View Caravan Park in Donabate is open year round. Helped a family who lived there move last year. They were so happy to not have to spend another winter there. It was pretty tough.



  • #114
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,581 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122428608#Comment_122428608

    I believe that was rebranded from Hands Caravan Park after a gangland murder, and appears to be over 2k a month to rent a unit.

    People seem to think these are cheap options!



  • #115
    Orlak2410
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Orlak2410


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122428608#Comment_122428608

    Fair play to you but they got lucky with you. If they didn't find you and it was a choice between the streets and the mobile home, I can wager a guess as to which they'd choose.



  • #116
    Orlak2410
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Orlak2410


    Being cheap isn't just the only option to consider. When I go to viewings for studios/1bed apartments in Dublin, there's a queue of people competing to spend up to €1500 per month. All of them have the means but unfortunately there's just one apartment. Mobile homes could be an alternative for now, at least until the housing/immigration crisis eases up. They seem to work in North America in the form of 'trailer parks'.



  • #117
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,581 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122428763#Comment_122428763

    The work in the US South, which does not have our damp or cold.

    They don't work here. We had them, in the 70s housing crisis but we don't have them this time around based on how bad a solution they are for Ireland.



  • #118
    RichardAnd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122428523#Comment_122428523

    Most likely they live in a bubble. I've seen this with my mother's family who are all upper middle class. They're good people, but they really don't understand how things can be if you are not well off. Of course, I've always been of mind that quite a number of the people who make these decisions are genuinely malicious individuals, but I digress…

    There will be severe long-term consequences from this. The hyper-individual who sits comfortably in their home and watches as their investments rise may think that they will be fine, but no man is an island. As the cost of keeping this infinite growth nightmare going becomes higher and higher, the consequences will eventually come knocking.

    Interesting times…



  • #119
    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,633 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    I hear you. Keep an eye on this thread. I’m convinced that there is a solution to the housing crisis, we just haven’t done it yet. 😎

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058325358/building-ireland-s-most-eco-friendly-house



  • #120
    Orlak2410
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Orlak2410


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122428820#Comment_122428820

    I think they're all over North America though. Even in Canada where the TV show Trailer Park Boys is set.

    I'm not old enough to remember the 70s but I can't imagine it being as bad as it is now.

    In reality though, I think the reason they're allowed in North America and not here is because Ireland is a nanny state. Claiming they're 'protecting' their citizens where infact, they're contributing to the problem. I'd happily live in a mobile home long term until I can afford to buy a house. They're detached so no issues with thin walls and noisy neighbours, you have your own garden with a parking space and there is plenty of space in them for 1 or two people. Sure, they might get cold in the winter but that's what clothing, blankets and supersers are for.



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  • #121
    Orlak2410
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Orlak2410


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122428962#Comment_122428962

    I'm sure in the upper realms of government, they do live in a bubble among their middle class peers and they're the ones that make the rules but within local governments, as in county councils, I think the people are not necessarily upper class and wealthy but as you say, malicious individuals, perhaps even sociopathic, as they are the ones that face the public and make decisions that could mean the difference between someone having a home or not. Of course, they are given a certain amount of discretion but the more they enforce the rules that the policy makers make, the more their belly is rubbed and the further up the civil ladder they climb.



  • #122
    RichardAnd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122430512#Comment_122430512

    As the bard said, "Hell is empty, and all the devils are here." :/



  • #123
    Orlak2410
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Orlak2410


    I don't think we're on the same wave length here pal. I'm talking about mobile home park regulations. You seem to be more interested in talking about satan, pentagrams and metal music by the sounds of it 😬



  • #124
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122428962#Comment_122428962

    There's also an ideological blinkering. In the last recession, rent-allowance limits were wayyy lower than actual rents, and it was common for tenants to pay an under-the-counter top-up. Some working/middle class people I met were adamant that I shouldn't do this because 1) spending way more than 1/3 of my in income on rent, and 2) the landlord "just should" drop the rent for me.

    Now, I understand their big-picture perspective. But my choice was keep paying and stay in a central location (easier to get casual work and more flexible where I could take longer-term jobs). Or move to a grotty place in the suburbs with cheap rent, but where I'd always have transport costs for work or socialising, and I'd be more limited in what permanent jobs I could get to.

    The social-justice warriors wouldn't understand why I took a short-term hit, to keep the long term flexibility and quality of life.



  • #125
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058112456/all-year-residential-mobile-home-parks

    Rent from a traveller's site, if that's allowed. 🤔



  • #126
    Orlak2410
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Orlak2410


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122431868#Comment_122431868

    Of course they're allowed to do whatever they want.



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  • #127
    65535
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭65535


    I know from experience that if/when buying a mobile home for over winter use then you need to make sure of the following:

    Insulation - Insulated including floor for over winter.

    Double Glazing -

    Heating - Preferable Radiators throughout

    Also preferably a glavanised or aluminium chassis due to rust in the long term.

    It's not nice being in an older mobile with a North Wind coming in the ventilators…



  • #128
    RichardAnd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122431618#Comment_122431618

    It's a quote from Shakespeare; it's not meant to be taken literally…..



  • #129
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    A friend of mine has log cabins in Wales rented to tourists. I have stayed in them with snow on the ground.



  • #130
    Orlak2410
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Orlak2410


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122434052#Comment_122434052

    Sorry, my mistake 😐



  • #131
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I stayed in a mobile over winter two years ago, it's more than doable and ours wasn't the nicest or best insulated, -5degrees outside a few times but more than liveable. Mobile was probably 20 years old, the newer ones are absolutely luxurious and far nicer than most rented accommodation in Dublin.



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