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Currently buying/selling a house? How is it going? READ MOD NOTE POST #1

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  • Registered Users Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    8 months after going on the market our house is sold.

    Our purchase should go through later today (hopefully).

    For a few hours at least I have several hundred grand in cash to my name.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Deposit now paid and EA has the sale agreed up!

    now let’s see how this triple chain goes!


    has anyone draw down with EBS lately? What has been your experience?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭J_1980


    Chain selling and buying. After 2months of conveyancing and chasing things for every requests, buyer gone silent….

    no issues, nothing, wouldn’t mind if they were renegotiation the price or so. Just silence, need to relist now. Bloody timewasters.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭kaymin


    Sale agreed since end of March. Contracts signed 3 weeks ago but no sign of a completion date from vendor. Getting impatient as vendor is just suiting themselves with little regard for me or the buyer of my house. My solicitor is fairly useless. I presume the following clause in the standard conditions of sale applies in my case - so in theory I should have to wait no more than another 2 weeks. Curious as to what leverage I have, if any, to force the vendor to complete in this timeframe


    Post edited by kaymin on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭This is it


    Push your solicitor to agree a date with them. Ring every day until you get something. Be annoying is my advice.



  • Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭Aph2016


    Insanely frustrating, maybe your estate agent could contact previous bidders?



  • Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭Aph2016


    Push for a closing date, if they won't budge, then maybe reconsider buying the house if you're in a position to do that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭kaymin


    I am prepared to walk away if I can legally do it per that clause. It would probably be akin to shooting myself in the foot though



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  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭FledNanders


    Our buyers have signed contracts, but have put in a condition that they want us to pay 50% of remedial works for low levels of damp found in the house by some damp surveyor/quotation guy they sent. This would cost us over €2000.

    There is no obvious damp in the house (as in visible to the naked eye), although the house is nearly 100 years old so I would be surprised if there was zero damp found.

    I assume we go with my instinct here and tell them to take a running jump?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭This is it


    It's up to you but yeah, I'd you don't want to pay then say no. They're buying the house as it is, which is what you valued it at.

    It's unlikely they'll walk away over 2k I'd say.



  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭FledNanders



    That's my thoughts too.

    And they've already delayed us by about a month with other messing around, so my good will towards them is absolutely nil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭akelly02


    once its transferred from the bank , ours arrived the next day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    I agree just say priced as it is, I am not paying 2k.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭quokula


    Buying a new build house in a development has been something of a nightmare. The location, size, layout, price were all right and the show house looked great, but ever since first putting the deposit down last year they have just continually worn us down, from the strong arming to try and get us to sign at the beginning, to missing completion dates they gave us by 6+ months leaving us to swallow more interest rate rises, to finally getting to snagging stage only to find the finish quality throughout has been absolutely dire.

    On our initial snagging visit, on a date they gave us, we hired and payed for a professional snagger only to find the house was still pretty much a building site with no electricity, boiler not hooked up, everything covered in dirt, some doors not installed, paving stones missing, among many things that were simply not ready to be snagged at all. Over multiple visits now (which haven't been easy to arrange because they are not at all accommodating about providing access) they've flat out lied about fixing issues and completing work that they simply haven't upon inspection, presumably hoping we wouldn't check, while in the meantime we're getting pressurised by their solicitor to complete the purchase of a house that just isn't ready at all.

    If I ever buy another house I will be strictly looking at the second hand market.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭FledNanders



    We have said no, via our solicitor, so will see what they come back with.

     My view is what they do with the house after they buy it has nothing to do with us. Do work, don't do work, totally up to them but they buy the house as it is for the agreed price.

    And it's the manner it was brought up too that has me fuming. They've sat on this damp 'report' (basically a quote done by some trade guy, not an actual building surveyor) for weeks, and now suddenly raise it at contracts stage and 2 weeks before we're due to close.

     I'd honestly rather lose the sale than give in to it.

     We were actually planning on offering them some stuff for free from the house; couch, washing machine and a few other things as they're first time buyers. Now I'd rather burn them.

     



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,333 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Well, as they are first time buyers, they are probably terrified by the damp issue! They think it needs doing immediately Because they were probably told that. Buying a house then paying a few thousand to do work has probably just scared them. I wouldn't be too harsh!



  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭FledNanders


    Buy a 100 year old house, expect a few issues that need to be sorted. Sorry but FTB or not, that should be plain as day to anybody buying property. If you want perfection, buy a new build.

    Trying to put us on the hook for helping with their own costs is simply not on imo, especially this late in the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,464 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    tongue in cheek here but @quokula 's experience above would beg to differ :D new builds have just as many issues!

    But I agree, asking ye to pay for the damp was a bit cheeky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭quokula


    In other news about the delight of buying a new home, today we discovered while mooching around the county council planning permission site that they have applied to effectively double the density of the next phase to allow for an extra 24 cars that will all pass by our house as their only access road. All the while continuing to lie to our face about their plans for the rest of the development.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭This is it


    Buying a house is such a minefield, new build or second hand.

    We're in about 10 weeks now and when I read/hear some stories I thank the magic man in the sky that, so far, all has gone well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭quokula


    In fairness this is our second home (moving from 3 to 4 bed for growing family) and our first home was a new build that went like a dream so it certainly varies. Probably led me to a false sense of security this time round.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Equium


    I too felt that all was going well. We were waiting on a closing date within the next two weeks. The conveyancing process had felt slow and antiquated but we were still confident in securing our new house this month.


    But, today, we have found that a convicted sex offender lives next door. Indeed his crimes were with minors no less, and he's currently serving a suspended sentence. Safe to say that we will be pulling out ASAP. I'm absolutely dejected with the thought of having to start again but also somewhat relieved to have found out about this now.


    My advice to anybody currently buying a house is to check every possible news source for info regarding your estate or street. In our own case, the above information wasn't available until recently. I had checked before submitting an offer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 EchoEmber


    Query specific to BOI mortgage - We went sale agreed few weeks ago, today I got an email from BOI mortgage team saying that I have a document to sign/review via DocuSign. It seems to be a Letter of Offer, unfortunately I can't read the document unless I say I will do it digitally. Which I would prefer not to do, without consulting my solicitor.

    So is this "Letter of offer" the same as the "the Loan offer", that you are required to sign with your solicitor - which they told me is on the way to them anyway ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Bluefox556


    When we signed our letter of offer, we did this in person with our solicitor. We signed the copies she had recieved from the bank.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 EchoEmber


    Thanks For your reply. The DocuSign implementation seems very odd as you can’t read the document unless you agreed to do electronically.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Bluefox556


    That does seem odd. We were with AIB and could easily just download a copy of the offer from the portal in PDF format to read over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭FledNanders


    Update, they've come back and waived the money they were looking for from us for the damp. 

    BUT they now inform us that our estate agent had told them in writing that all white goods were included in the sale (which we hadn't said) so now we have to give them all those 😄


    We've agreed just to get the thing over the line.

    But will be nailing our estate agent for a reduced sales fee as a result of their c0ck up.

     

    Good god I am never ever doing this again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Lyra Fangs


    Well it's official, after 12 long, stressful weeks we finally picked up our keys today. No more chasing, no more calls, no more stress - I hope I never have to go through the process ever again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,464 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    I'm delighted for you and very jealous of your progress :D

    It must feel amazing getting the keys and knowing you won't have to deal with anyone else now!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭JohnnyChimpo


    Congrats! It took us 9 months, for reference.


    When we got the keys I still kinda figured we'd be here 5 years tops, now 3 years later and I don't see myself bothering with the hassle of moving again anytime soon unless a dream place suddenly materialises



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,863 ✭✭✭✭markodaly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,863 ✭✭✭✭markodaly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭quokula


    We have considered it and talked with the solicitor about it tbh. They're investigating the planning application further before we do anything else and we're continuing to push them about the many snagging issues in the meantime. But the point that the size, layout, location and price are right remains. If we could go back a year we'd probably do different but starting from scratch now feels pretty daunting - we've had a look around the usual property sites and there's no sign of anything else on the market that meets our criteria recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭J_1980


    They magically came back to life this week. Probably lost an alternative purchase bidding war. Now maybe signing contract on sale next week and if lucky my purchase might line up signing same week for myself then.

    at least on mortgage side it’s super easy with Avant so far.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Will be sending off the info needed for our loan offer next week! Everything is good except I’ve an unease about it for some reason!! Only thing was we had to borrow €2k to make up the booking deposit for the house as the EA requested €8k we only had €6k. Mother in law has a letter typed to explain and that it’s a gift.

    but we will pay her back!

    has anyone ever ran into trouble with their loan offer over this?

    all they want is one month bank statement that our salaries are paid into. That’s normal enough yeah?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    My experience was 3 months bank statements from all my accounts and a sum of the cash I had ready for the deposit.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,464 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    We did something similar, 3k loan from a parent and all it took was a letter and then no more problems after that


    We're in an interesting situation now, we've got everything lined up with the solicitor for the house and is quite happy with all the documents but then the bank property team came back and said no to the property based on well issues. It's a shared well in a small (2 house) folio but we've all the documents to show we'd have access. We're chasing updated maps and more documents last week and hoping to try again with the bank this week, but would be glad to hear of someone else managing to overturn a bank decision on something similar?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Thanks, I know it’ll be no issue but we’re anxious all the same. We bought a new build 7 years ago and it was plain sailing. This is a different kettle of fish altogether with a triple chain!

    Asked the EA over a week ago just after we got the receipt for our booking deposit to see when the owner would let our engineer in to do the survey! Nothing back!! It was the same with the viewing. Took 3 weeks to view the house!



  • Registered Users Posts: 49 Eddie2008


    From following this thread, I think you are in a chain. Did your solicitor advise how much of a deposit you will need to pay at contract signing? This is usually 10% of house value less the estate agent booking deposit. It will be needed in cash and is separate from banking rules, some people get confused by this.

    It is not unusual for those in a chain and reliant on equity to receive a gift for the booking deposit and contract deposit, and I wouldn't worry. The bank know it will be refunded when the sale closes. This deposit at contract signing is sometimes overlooked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    Our buyers surveyor said the same thing. House was old with a bit of damp through the old stone wall on one side of the house that we never ever noticed any effect from. They asked for us to drop the price by the cost of repair. I asked our surveyor about that when he was doing the survey on the house we bought and he said it was perfectly normal for an old house and wouldnt cause an issue so we shouldnt pay for it to be repaired. Buyer could buy house and never get it repaired and it would still be fine. So we refused. They came back again looking for 50%. We refused again. Then they said ok and went ahead and bought the house.



  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭k mac


    Selling a second home and everything has gone extremely smoothly so far (don't want to jinx it). Sale agreed after 15 days of it going up for sale on Daft, just shy of 10% over asking price. 5 weeks and 2 days later our solicitors have gotten stuff back from the buyers solicitor with no issues after everything such as surveys completed, so all is looking good. Very happy so far with the whole process.



  • Registered Users Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Lyra Fangs


    It feels amazing that all the future planning and fantasizing I tried so hard not to do I can now actually put into action. I can't imagine being in the process longer than the 12 weeks - we had a couple of bumps along the way and I thought I was going to crack up from the stress.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SameOleJay


    A pm with a recommendation for survey of apartment in Clane area would be great.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Has anyone had experience with a removal and storage company? Ball park figure to how much it costs? I’ve careline calling to do a survey next Tuesday to see how much it’ll cost etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Finally got our keys at 4.30 today after going sale agreed on the house on Easter Sunday. Over the moon to finally be in, feels surreal it's all over! The admin has become like a second job over the past 3 weeks.


    To answer the question above, we had a removal company where we had packed and disassembled everything, they arrive to remove and store overnight and delivered today for 1300. Moving from a 3 bed house with 3 beds, table and chairs, units etc. Adding in the company to pack and disassemble would have roughly doubled that amount. Lots of stress with any option but definitely glad we weren't packing up van loads of stuff and doing it ourselves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭FledNanders


    We got quotes from a few removal companies that were really expensive, up to €2k for removal and storage. Mad money.

    Ended up finding a man + truck on Adverts.ie for €70 an hour. Pack and disassemble everything in advance, load up the truck and go



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    ****, that’s a serious amount! I counted what furniture we’ll be bringing it’s not a whole pile, we’re leaving the appliances as well. It’ll be interesting to see what he says next Tuesday



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