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Michael Lowry guilty

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  • #102
    fxotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    He is a TD and should be held to a higher standard.

    All should be equal before the Law


  • #103
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    wexie wrote: »
    :confused:

    Well doesn't 'of previously good character' describe pretty much anybody?

    Y'know....before they become career criminals like?

    Did you even read the links I posted or do you not remember his previous shenanigans?

    ****



  • #104
    fxotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Remember this the next time the FF/FG gangsters tell you that they are tough on crime. :rolleyes:

    Judiciary and Legislature are separate branches of govt :rolleyes:


  • #105
    Morpork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭Morpork


    Is he still gonna be Bad Boys III?


  • #106
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Did you even read the links I posted or do you not remember his previous shenanigans?

    hmmm.....yeah.....let me try to rephrase it in terms you might find easier to understand.

    Have you ever seen an ad for a crashed car on Donedeal with the words 'car was mint before the crash'?


  • #107
    MayoSalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Pure joke that this was dealt with in a Special Criminal courts...waste of time and resources per usual


  • #108
    mdol
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭mdol


    Grand little country this. Just seen him on the news, choking back tears, the brass necked rat.

    Made sure to thank the gullible gobsh, erm, people of Tipperary too of course.

    As I said, grand country.


  • #109
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Judges comments were ridiculous. Case should be appealed for leniency.


  • #110
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    fxotoole wrote: »
    Judiciary and Legislature are separate branches of govt :rolleyes:

    Thanks for the update, I'd no idea. :rolleyes:

    Legislators ensure that white collar crime continues to be treated leniently.


  • #111
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


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  • #112
    Grab All Association
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Delighted when last election Jackie Cahill was matching Lowry in Thurles EDs ballot boxes. 50/50 split almost

    One box in Cashel area Lowry got 50%+ of first preference iirc.



  • #113
    jobeenfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    Lowry, he's one of their own n always will be, just like his friend DOB who stood with Enda whilst ringing the bell on the stock market in New York, after the tribunal findings. No point getting annoyed or stressed. This **** will be stil going when we are all long gone!


  • #114
    buried
    Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Pathetic. People, especially young people would do well to wake the f**k up on how the mainstream political elite up in here are literally laughing at them. Keep ignoring it, the f**king workhouses will be back soon enough for ye all

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • #115
    OOnegative
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Fallen a lot since Bad Boys & Bad Boys 2!!!


  • #116
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    buried wrote: »
    Pathetic. People, especially young people would do well to wake the f**k up on how the mainstream political elite up in here are literally laughing at them. Keep ignoring it, the f**king workhouses will be back soon enough for ye all

    Should read some of the news with regards to how people are trying to live, work houses are back already. They've just modernized them a bit

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/homeowner-renting-16-beds-in-three-rooms-for-up-to-445-each-1.2975618


  • #117
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    mdol wrote: »
    Grand little country this. Just seen him on the news, choking back tears, the brass necked rat.

    Made sure to thank the gullible gobsh, erm, people of Tipperary too of course.

    As I said, grand country.

    The best part of that was that he looked very ill


  • #118
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Birneybau wrote: »
    The best part of that was that he looked very ill

    Classy.


  • #119
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • #120
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Allinall wrote: »
    Birneybau wrote: »
    The best part of that was that he looked very ill

    Classy.

    I don't care. These people get away with crap constantly


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  • #121
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Birneybau wrote: »
    I don't care. These people get away with crap constantly

    What did he get away with?


  • #122
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Birneybau wrote: »
    I don't care. These people get away with crap constantly

    So do a lot of Irish people committing welfare fraud or doing nixers and not paying cash or paying for cash jobs and not paying VAT or not paying rent which has Dublin City Council in 50 million arrears.

    Bunch of hypocrites.

    Lowry is scum.

    But so are many people in this country who do and would do the exact same if they were in charge of their tax affairs.


  • #123
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    I wonder how many companies decided not to setup in Ireland because they refused to pay corrupt politicians.


  • #124
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Allinall wrote: »
    What did he get away with?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/blog/2011/mar/23/corruption-allegations-michael-lowry

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/if-that-comes-out-im-ruined-lowry-29090809.html

    https://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2013/07/lowry-standards-in-low-places/
    The McCracken Tribunal, for instance, reported that Mr Lowry had interfered in a rent arbitration process to the benefit of Ben Dunne. In return Dunne contributed IR£395,000 towards renovation works at the Lowry family home, works that were initially carried out without planning permission. Mr Lowry is also a proven tax evader. Michael Lowry’s company Garuda Limited reached a settlement with the Revenue Commissioners to pay €1.26m while Michael Lowry made a personal payment of €192,000.

    In March 2011 the Moriarty Tribunal concluded that the actions of Michael Lowry were “profoundly corrupt to a degree that was nothing short of breath-taking”. The Moriarty Tribunal considered that Michael Lowry had interfered with the 1995 mobile-phone licence competition to the benefit of Esat Digifone and that in return Lowry had received payments exceeding €1m from Denis O’Brien.

    On February 24th of this year the Sunday Independent published the transcript of a conversation between Michael Lowry and Omagh-based property consultant Kevin Phelan which reinforced the findings of the tribunal. Central to the conversation is a payment of £248,624 which Lowry made to Kevin Phelan.


  • #125
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    20Cent wrote: »
    I wonder how many companies decided not to setup in Ireland because they refused to pay corrupt politicians.

    I’d actually say zero.


  • #126
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Shjudge
    Shjudgement
    Shjudiciary
    Shole country


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  • #127
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Farce of a country. How much did it cost to bring Lowry through the courts for that joke sentence? :mad:


  • #128
    Grab All Association
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Farce of a country. How much did it cost to bring Lowry through the courts for that joke sentence? :mad:

    Fair play to the revenue though for trying. Unlike AGS/CAB/DPP regarding Moriarty


  • #129
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    Pure joke that this was dealt with in a Special Criminal courts...waste of time and resources per usual

    It was in the circuit criminal court with a jury not the special criminal court. The special criminal court is for non-jury trials.


  • #130
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Grab All Association wrote: »
    Fair play to the revenue though for trying. Unlike AGS/CAB/DPP regarding Moriaity.

    Absolutely, I can't fault revenue here either.

    Today though really rubber stamped what we knew all along about the political system and the legal system. All complicit with each other and rotten to the core. The tax payer has had their eye wiped again


  • #131
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Absolutely, I can't fault revenue here either.

    Today though really rubber stamped what we knew all along about the political system and the legal system. All complicit with each other and rotten to the core. The tax payer has had their eye wiped again

    What about David Drumm last week?


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  • #132
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    What about David Drumm last week?

    But her emails


  • #133
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    You've got to hand it to the judge - he described Lowry as being of previous good character. Lol.

    Nolan is a disgrace to the Judiciary.


  • #134
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Nolan is a disgrace to the Judiciary.

    He seems like a warped individual


  • #135
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Thankfully He Who Bribed Lowry To Become Incredibly Wealthy is deemed to be immune from any form of prosecution.

    If the above was a SF supporter, there’d be outrage from the FF/FG gangsters.


  • #136
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Thankfully He Who Bribed Lowry To Become Incredibly Wealthy is deemed to be immune from any form of prosecution.

    If the above was a SF supporter, there’d be outrage from the FF/FG gangsters.

    Well Redacted will always be despised by most people in Ireland.


  • #137
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Thankfully He Who Bribed Lowry To Become Incredibly Wealthy is deemed to be immune from any form of prosecution.

    If the above was a SF supporter, there’d be outrage from the FF/FG gangsters.

    To be honest SF have enough characters and members convicted of much worst crimes for ff/fg to be bothered getting upset if that was the case.


  • #138
    Fred Swanson
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #139
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Thankfully He Who Bribed Lowry To Become Incredibly Wealthy is deemed to be immune from any form of prosecution.

    If the above was a SF supporter, there’d be outrage from the FF/FG gangsters.

    Lowry story already 15th (or thereabouts) article down the Indo site and the headline is...'It has been a very traumatic time for me'


  • #140
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Lowry story already 15th (or thereabouts) article down the Indo site and the headline is...'It has been a very traumatic time for me'

    Hardly surprising as his cronie DOB literally owns the Indo :pac:

    Ireland has to be the most corrupt first world country on the planet.


  • #141
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    No comments allowed in the Journal Article.

    Guess they fear that Redacted will start throwing around legal writs like confetti if someone leaves a comment linking him to Lowry.

    Can't blame the Lawyers though. Redacted is putting their kids through college.


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  • #142
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    To be honest SF have enough characters and members convicted of much worst crimes for ff/fg to be bothered getting upset if that was the case.

    Guess that makes everything ok then.


  • #143
    MayoSalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    ohnonotgmail wrote:
    It was in the circuit criminal court with a jury not the special criminal court. The special criminal court is for non-jury trials.


    A Jury over tax fraud so even worse


  • #144
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Hardly surprising as his cronie DOB literally owns the Indo :pac:

    Ireland has to be the most corrupt first world country on the planet.

    Wonder why?

    Do you think the normal joe soap has better morals?

    Whole country is at it in some way.

    Claims, welfare fraud, non payment of fines, rent arrears in the council, nixers, paying for jobs with cash, no car tax and insurance, fly tipping.

    The list goes on and on.


  • #145
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Corruption comes from the top down.
    Look at the chancers leading this country, top people in politics, the gardai, banking and the church.


  • #146
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    A Jury over tax fraud so even worse

    not a believer in trial by jury then?


  • #147
    Gaoth Laidir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    JMNolan wrote: »
    It's all he'll be remembered for to be honest.

    Whats the garlic man thing all about?


  • #148
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,000 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    The bigger his sentence, the bigger his vote will be.

    Disgusting individual really. And those voting for him.

    Ireland will not move on until he and the HRs in Kerry (not that they did anything like that, but you know what I mean), Ireland will be in the dark ages and hail fella well met, anything other than Dublin. Ya hoo.


  • #149
    liam7831
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    Spanish Eyes wrote:
    Ireland will not move on until he and the HRs in Kerry (not that they did anything like that, but you know what I mean), Ireland will be in the dark ages and hail fella well met, anything other than Dublin. Ya hoo.

    Spanish Eyes wrote:
    Disgusting individual really. And those voting for him.

    Spanish Eyes wrote:
    The bigger his sentence, the bigger his vote will be.

    You sound jealous of his very successful business and political career, I don't begrudge him fair play I say


  • #150
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    No comments allowed in the Journal Article.

    Guess they fear that Redacted will start throwing around legal writs like confetti if someone leaves a comment linking him to Lowry.

    Can't blame the Lawyers though. Redacted is putting their kids through college.


    No, they just don't understand how court reporting restrictions work. It's fairly common for comments to be closed on any article that includes the word "court".


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  • #151
    MayoSalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    ohnonotgmail wrote:
    not a believer in trial by jury then?


    Not for tax fraud...no


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