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How much to get an electric shower fitted?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,152 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    What you see on Screwfix for 80 pounds is a UK mains fed shower. Because it is a UK model there is no Irish warranty. That aside it isn't a direct replacement for your Mira Elite 2. Your Mira Elite 2 is a pumped electric shower & is tank fed. The shower linked is a mains fed shower with no pump. The mains fed shower chances temperature all on it's own when someone runs kitchen tap. In many parts of Dublin the water pressure isn't good enough to activate the pressure switch on a mains fed shower for more than half of the day. Irish waters reply is that mains fed showers are against the building regs & it shouldn't be installed, so not their problem.



    You can get a Dublin shower company to supply & fit a Mira Elite QT or Triton T90SR for between 325 & 350. This is more or less like for like with your old Mira & you can expect the same type of performance. The mains fed shower won't give you the same performance
    Thanks for the detailed reply! Those prices aren't actually that bad when it's a supply and fit deal.

    In terms of replacing a Mira Elite 2, are the models you mentioned what you'd recommend? Or are there better models that you'd recommend ahead of them for a direct swap like this? It'll be a couple of years before I'm doing the job and it'll be a complete gut of the shower room (back to brick and studs but hoping not to have to move any of the plumbing) but curious as to what I should be looking to replace the shower with and if there are better options than a direct replacement for not too much more money...


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Thanks for the detailed reply! Those prices aren't actually that bad when it's a supply and fit deal.

    In terms of replacing a Mira Elite 2, are the models you mentioned what you'd recommend? Or are there better models that you'd recommend ahead of them for a direct swap like this? It'll be a couple of years before I'm doing the job and it'll be a complete gut of the shower room (back to brick and studs but hoping not to have to move any of the plumbing) but curious as to what I should be looking to replace the shower with and if there are better options than a direct replacement for not too much more money...


    The new Mira Elite QT is a lemon. I believe it should be removed from the market. If at all possible I'd put in the Triton T90SR silent shower. If this doesn't fit there is a Triton T900PI that is the same footprint as the Mira but it's not silent


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,667 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    The new Mira Elite QT is a lemon. I believe it should be removed from the market. If at all possible I'd put in the Triton T90SR silent shower. If this doesn't fit there is a Triton T900PI that is the same footprint as the Mira but it's not silent

    Thanks for the heads up on the new Triton model. Was looking at the SR, but the newer one looks like the job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Rather than start a new thread, anyone know why it is nearly impossible to find a plumber to replace a shower feeding off tank with an electric shower? Are we in Celtic tiger mode with plumbers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭stratowide


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    You aren't paying someone 400 to change a shower? You are getting one supplied for 325/350. The shower unit itself costs 225/250. Your qualified & insured tradesman is getting around 88.11 plus 11.89 VAT= 100 euro for this job. I traveled from D5 to Bray, to Lucan & on to Balbriggan so far today. Most of my time is driving.I honestly don't think it's a lot to pay someone who has trained in the field.



    I won't post links but if you google triton t90 450 supplied & fitted you'll find companies charging 450 plus VAT to supply & fit a replacement shower. That's 510 euro!!!

    So a like for like shower change will cost me €100 labour.
    Would an hour be a reasonable time frame for fitting barring any problems..?

    The price people charge is irrelevant.Its what I'm willing to pay is what counts.

    So it's still a no from me.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,667 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    stratowide wrote: »
    So a like for like shower change will cost me €100 labour.
    Would an hour be a reasonable time frame for fitting barring any problems..?

    The price people charge is irrelevant.Its what I'm willing to pay is what counts.

    So it's still a no from me.

    Ok thats great......


    Anyway moving on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    stratowide wrote: »
    So a like for like shower change will cost me €100 labour.
    Would an hour be a reasonable time frame for fitting barring any problems..?

    The price people charge is irrelevant.Its what I'm willing to pay is what counts.

    So it's still a no from me.


    It took me an hour to get to Bray this morning. I get paid from the moment I leave my house, going to suppliers & to & from jobs. Don't ever make the mistake of "oh it only took him an hour". This isn't how the world works


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭stratowide


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    It took me an hour to get to Bray this morning. I get paid from the moment I leave my house, going to suppliers & to & from jobs. Don't ever make the mistake of "oh it only took him an hour". This isn't how the world works

    I know how it works.Im in the maintenance trade a long time.

    I'm saying I wont pay €100 to someone to fit a shower.
    Other people might and that's fine.

    I wont though..:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    listermint wrote:
    Anyway moving on.

    In fairness to him, it's the DIY forum. It's a reasonable comment from a DIY person. Id find it offensive on the plumbing forum though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    It took me an hour to get to Bray this morning. I get paid from the moment I leave my house, going to suppliers & to & from jobs. Don't ever make the mistake of "oh it only took him an hour". This isn't how the world works

    It took me 30 mins to get into work today, I get paid when I arrive in my employer's premises. This attitude of I get paid once I leave my house is one of the reasons why I'm such an avid DIY'er.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    If your employ sent you to buy something the office ran out of would you clock out & back in or would you expect to be doing this travelling on company time?


    You only travel to work once a day. I travel to work 8 times a day. I can loose 30 minutes at trade counters alone. I get literally dozens of calls, emails and text from all over Ireland and the UK. I am happy to give out free advice all day long. I help a couple dozen people per week solve their problems over the phone. I give free advice here. I'm happy to do all of that but I charge for my time if I visit your home. I donate to charity but I am not a charity. 


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,733 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    The hardest part is getting hot feed to the power shower. At a push you could run it surface down the wall & into the shower. Wouldn't be the prettiest thing but some people opt for this till they are ready to tile the bathroom. If you don't want to run it surface then you will need to chase out the wall. This will require tiling afterwards.



    Triton have a new Silent power shower launched last week called the Triton Novel SR. It has the exact same motor as the Triton T90SR & this motor is bulletproof. I I were to put a pump in a box type power shower in my own home this is the one I'd go for. Better quality than the Aqualisa Aquastream that retails at double the price & isn't as quiet.

    Did triton get the hot/cold supplies the right way around in the new models?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Dtp1979 wrote:
    Did triton get the hot/cold supplies the right way around in the new models?


    The hot and cold inlets haven't changed. They are on the same side & in the same place. In most cases its not too difficult to swap over the hot & cold inside the wall. I had hoped to replace a mira event with the new triton yesterday but it was an old installation. Copper pipes had individual holes drilled through a Cross piece in the stud wall. There was no way that would work without major surgery. Had to go with a vigour in the end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,733 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    The hot and cold inlets haven't changed. They are on the same side & in the same place. In most cases its not too difficult to swap over the hot & cold inside the wall. I had hoped to replace a mira event with the new triton yesterday but it was an old installation. Copper pipes had individual holes drilled through a Cross piece in the stud wall. There was no way that would work without major surgery. Had to go with a vigour in the end.

    Yea those pipes have put me off many a triton installation


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭chabsey


    North Dublin, currently have a Triton T90 XR which we've had for about 10 years. Works well but two things are a problem with it. It's noisy and always has been, probably the norm for a shower of that vintage but it does sound like a small jet about to take off. Secondly there's small amounts of black sooty stuff spat out of the side of it over time, I presume this is parts of the soul of the demon harnessed inside the unit to heat the water.

    Anyway, can people who know these things give me a rough idea of swapping out this shower for something quiet(er)? Ideally something that will fit the existing footprint so tiling etc. is not required.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Triton t90sr silent shower is the best replacement for the triton t90xr


  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Fine Cheers


    Recently paid 600 for supply and fit of a replacement pumped shower. I reckon around 200 of that was labour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭Edser


    Any suggestion for the most reliable and easiest (footprint-wise) replacement for a Mira Elite ST?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Recently paid 600 for supply and fit of a replacement pumped shower. I reckon around 200 of that was labour.
    Was that a pumped power shower or a pumped electric shower?
    Edser wrote:
    Any suggestion for the most reliable and easiest (footprint-wise) replacement for a Mira Elite ST?


    Most reliable is triton t90sr. Any good shower repair company should be able to install this.

    Easiest but lower quality is the Mira Elite SE


  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Fine Cheers


    Pumped power shower


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭chabsey


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Triton t90sr silent shower is the best replacement for the triton t90xr

    Any ideas of the rough price of swapping out the XR and replacing with an SR?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    chabsey wrote:
    Any ideas of the rough price of swapping out the XR and replacing with an SR?


    Dublin 330 to 350 supplied & fitted Inc vat


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    My Triton AS2000X seems to be on way out.

    With power button off it still running and burning smell coming off it when running. Have to turn it off with isolator switch.

    Is the Novel SR still the best option to replace it?
    https://www.heavins.ie/p/triton-novel-sr-thermostatic-electric-power-shower/5012663154339?gclid=Cj0KCQjw24qHBhCnARIsAPbdtlKeSx8ThXnSF5xmLu2aipQt5Ssxz1frBNKsDOG5Rwdnc8egdNU5I0MaAuDJEALw_wcB&gtagrefurl=https%3a%2f%2fwww.google.com%2f

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Yes. It's best replacement. Also you should jump at the one linked. Great price. There is a 12 percent price increase on triton products in the last few weeks that hasn't filtered to the shops yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Fils


    What electrical tests would normally need to be done after doing a straight swap shower replacement?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    Any chance for anyone to give a ball park of how much it would cost these days to supply and fit an electric shower to the bathroom that never had one previously thank you

    btw pipes and electric supply can run on surface I do not mind



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Impedance test at the fuse box using specialist equipment

    At the moment in Dublin an electric shower will cost you between €1000 & €1500 supplied & fitted Inc vat. Prices have jumped in recent years. Massive shortage of electricians, massive increase in the quality & price of the cable required & a ban on selling heavily discounted Triton showers have all pushed up the price



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,291 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    That’s a replacement?

    Im guessing a new install is closer to €900



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,897 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    They were 2015 prices. Vigour Thermostatic power shower sells for €280 & supplied and fitted for around €450 Inc vat in the Dublin area. Average price for comple new installation for Mira Vigour or Triton Novel SR from scratch would be €850 to €1200 Depending on the layout of the house



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  • Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    It cost me €1200 plus VAT in Dublin a few months ago to get a Triton T90SR supplied and fitted in ensuite, including new wiring as no previous electric shower in the house. This was part of a full renovation of two bathrooms, but that's what was on the breakdown on the invoice. The wiring went up from fuse box, through box bedroom covered in some sort of tubing fixed to wall, into attic and then across the house in attic to the ensuite.



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