11 yr/old drag kid worshiped within LGBTQ community (Mod warning op)

retro:electro · 06-01-2019 2:52pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

I didn't see anything that resembles dancing like a stripper in the video linked in the OP. He is jumping and walking not dancing provocatively. I would interpret it as him expressing himself and doing what he wants to do.

Again, you’re too focused on seeing it from the perspective of the child’s wishes and not from the perspective of what is appropriate in an adult setting. Just because is what’s the child wants to do in this moment in time doesn’t make it right. What about in ten years time and looks back at this footage and can’t understand why anyone let him do this, never mind actively encouraged it. We have laws, principles and social standards in place to protect children. Just because a child wishes to twerk on stage at 4am in a highly sexualised environment doesn’t mean we should all bend over (pardon the pun) and accommodate that.

DontThankMe · 06-01-2019 2:53pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Jesus, this - and it's all too common - fall back to the "law". You seem unaware that even in my lifetime you as a Gay man(presumption) your sexuality was illegal in Ireland. It's still illegal in many countries around the world, up to imprisonment and execution. So if a Gay man is hanged in some country out there where it's legally mandated, is that "above board"? Why not? How dare you judge their culture etc...

There's a big difference between a boy performing as a drag queen and someone being hung for being gay you're not equating like for like you're using one extreme example of law in some countries. I obviously would not agree with the law revolving around gay men and women in certain countries but, in this instance I see no problem with the law that allows him to do what he wants to do which is to be a professional drag performer.

The Talking Bread · 06-01-2019 2:54pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

It’s not because you didn’t agree with the majority, but what you actually disagree with the majority on that has people questioning your belief system

( or supposed belief system. I think you’re * but it’s getting a bit old.).

I urge you to edit this post. This poster is not worth getting a ban or a warning for for using that word

Omackeral · 06-01-2019 2:55pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

There's a big difference between a boy performing as a drag queen and someone being hung for being gay you're not equating like for like you're using one extreme example of law in some countries. I obviously would not agree with the law revolving around gay men and women in certain countries but, in this instance I see no problem with the law that allows him to do what he wants to do which is to be a professional drag performer.

He's fcuking 11 years of age twerking for dollars in a nightclub at 4am. Jesus Christ almighty.

The Talking Bread · 06-01-2019 2:56pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

There's a big difference between a boy performing as a drag queen and someone being hung for being gay you're not equating like for like you're using one extreme example of law in some countries. I obviously would not agree with the law revolving around gay men and women in certain countries but, in this instance I see no problem with the law that allows him to do what he wants to do which is to be a professional drag performer.

You will be raging when Brian returns and you have to up your game for attention here. A battle of lack of wits, so it will be.

end of the road · 06-01-2019 2:58pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

This is the crux of the issue. Have you got proof that he is being exploited? I stand by my previous point in that he wants to do it. So therefore, it is not child exploitation nor is it a child protection issue.

how do you know he wants to do it.
he has been conditioned to do it and knows no better, that is the reality.

suicide_circus · 06-01-2019 2:58pm

DontThankMe · 06-01-2019 3:00pm

end of the road wrote: »

how do you know he wants to do it.
he has been conditioned to do it and knows no better, that is the reality.

I believe his mother when she said it's what he wants to do. Have you got evidence or proof of him being conditioned to do it?

The Pheasant2 · 06-01-2019 3:02pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

There's a big difference between a boy performing as a drag queen and someone being hung for being gay you're not equating like for like you're using one extreme example of law in some countries. I obviously would not agree with the law revolving around gay men and women in certain countries but, in this instance I see no problem with the law that allows him to do what he wants to do which is to be a professional drag performer.

The choice of examples are irrelevant - his point is that legality does not equal morality.

A point you appear to be unable to grasp..

suicide_circus · 06-01-2019 3:03pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

I believe his mother when she said it's what he wants to do. Have you got evidence or proof of him being conditioned to do it?

how are you not getting this? Even if we assume that this is what the child wants to do, we don't let kids do everything they want and that includes dancing in front of adult men for money.

The Talking Bread · 06-01-2019 3:05pm

Omackeral wrote: »

He's fcuking 11 years of age twerking for dollars in a nightclub at 4am. Jesus Christ almighty.

Not to mention being mentored by a sociopath junkie murderer, mimicing snorting drugs online, being the name behind a website that will 100% attract paedos, isn't getting educated properly, having his parent control his (cough) professional drag artist, 4am gay club sexually provocatively dancing career, uprooting him and separating him from social bonding from his peers and those who he cognitively matches, being sexualised to the point his parents pronounced him gay at two years of age.

But..............it is what he wants to do and the law doesn't dictate against it. (the reason for this is mainly because it isn't normal and a very bizzare anomaly of a case (right now) so you would imagine the law wouldn't have had to go to extremes to introduce legislation on it.

The law does allow to get CPS to investigate this though, but for some f*cked up reason they haven't got involved.

The Bishop Basher · 06-01-2019 3:18pm

This has to be the most disturbing thread i've ever read on boards :eek:

The open condoning and active support of what is obviously abuse of a minor is beyond sickening.

Scary times we live in.

Ronan|Raven · 06-01-2019 3:28pm

The whole thing is seriously ****ed up. No kid should be in a club doing that.

Defaulter1831 · 06-01-2019 3:31pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

The most worrying aspect of it all is how certain sections of mainstream media seemingly have no issue with it.

On the contrary, they seem to be celebrating it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdvOLdG_34

'My mom doesn't like me drinking caffeine'.

Says it all about 'Amazing Desmond' who is in expressing himself. Not a statement a mature adult would make.

cursai · 06-01-2019 3:31pm

Rennaws wrote: »

This has to be the most disturbing thread i've ever read on boards :eek:

The open condoning and active support of what is obviously abuse of a minor is beyond sickening.

Scary times we live in.

This thread would have been locked and deleted not too long ago for showing underage smut.

Now it's celebrated openly by perverts coming out of their sleazy dens.

TheValeyard · 06-01-2019 3:36pm

nullzero · 06-01-2019 3:45pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

I believe his mother when she said it's what he wants to do. Have you got evidence or proof of him being conditioned to do it?

If this is correct his mother should be encouraging him to do it... When he's an adult.

looksee · 06-01-2019 3:49pm

The whole business of LGBTQ and even the child's gender preferences are irrelevant. He is a child who should be in his own home, in his own bed at any time after about 10pm.

Defaulter1831 · 06-01-2019 4:01pm

Don't Thank Me

Whatever forum you ever appear on again you'll forever be seen as either a troll or someone who holds ideas detrimental to the protection of children. That's about as mild as I can put it without receiving an infraction.

Omackeral · 06-01-2019 4:06pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

I believe his mother when she said it's what he wants to do. Have you got evidence or proof of him being conditioned to do it?

This is the same mother that insisted he was introduced as gay at pre-school when he was a 3 year old. Some kids are still in bloody pull up nappies at that age. She's obviously not right in the head. Creepy unfit wagon of a ''mom'. Yet she'll still have her supporters among the fringes. Shameful carry on.

Omackeral · 06-01-2019 4:07pm

The irony is that it's a total lack of care. All children should be afforded care.

Zorya · 06-01-2019 4:08pm

Omackeral wrote: »

This is the same mother that insisted he was introduced as gay at pre-school when he was a 3 year old. Some kids are still in bloody pull up nappies at that age. She's obviously not right in the head. Creepy unfit wagon of a ''mom'. Yet she'll still have her supporters among the fringes. Shameful carry on.

I think there is an element of Munchausen-by-proxy is some of these people.

DontThankMe · 06-01-2019 4:11pm

Defaulter1831 wrote: »

Don't Thank Me

Whatever forum you ever appear on again you'll forever be seen as either a troll or someone who holds ideas detrimental to the protection of children. That's about as mild as I can put it without receiving an infraction.

If that's how someone with a different opinion from the majority is viewed then so be it.

retro:electro · 06-01-2019 4:14pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

If that's how someone with a different opinion from the majority is viewed then so be it.

It’s not just a different opinion though. It’s the passive enabling of casual child abuse that people have an issue with. I can respect opposing opinions, but ones that compromise the welfare of minors, well that’s a no brainier.

Gimme A Pound · 06-01-2019 4:14pm

Don't be so dishonest. A different opinion is fine - we all have different opinions. An opinion that glosses over and rationalises child exploitation is the issue here, and that's hardly irrational.

Shur "It's just a different opinion" could be said about all kinds of dreadful ideologies.

end of the road · 06-01-2019 4:16pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

I believe his mother when she said it's what he wants to do. Have you got evidence or proof of him being conditioned to do it?

he's an 11 year old child. most 11 year old children aren't in clubs at 4am twerking and having money thrown at them. they also don't have their sexuality determined by their parents at 3 years old.
for god sake i didn't even know what drag performing or even drag was at 11, i didn't know what gay was when i was 3. i presume most children would be and would have been the same, you know, because we were children and it wasn't something we needed to know until an appropriate time.
so yeah, i'd suggest that should be evidence enough that he has been conditioned to do this rather then he actually wants to do it, and even if he wants to do it, it's not responsible parenting to pander to his wishes.

DontThankMe · 06-01-2019 4:17pm

Omackeral wrote: »

This is the same mother that insisted he was introduced as gay at pre-school when he was a 3 year old. Some kids are still in bloody pull up nappies at that age. She's obviously not right in the head. Creepy unfit wagon of a ''mom'. Yet she'll still have her supporters among the fringes. Shameful carry on.

And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old. Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it. Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?

Omackeral · 06-01-2019 4:18pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old.

Hold the phone a second. Do you think that is in any way normal? It's fcuking wrong.

DontThankMe · 06-01-2019 4:18pm

retro:electro wrote: »

It’s not just a different opinion though. It’s the passive enabling of casual child abuse that people have an issue with. I can respect opposing opinions, but ones that compromise the welfare of minors, well that’s a no brainier.

But there is no evidence to support the claims that this is casual child abuse. That's how people see it but it doesn't make it the truth.

Gimme A Pound · 06-01-2019 4:19pm

Just being up at all hours of the night should be enough to warrant criticism. Staying up very late is not good for children. Is the kid not shattered.

The Talking Bread · 06-01-2019 4:20pm

Omackeral wrote: »

This is the same mother that insisted he was introduced as gay at pre-school when he was a 3 year old. Some kids are still in bloody pull up nappies at that age. She's obviously not right in the head. Creepy unfit wagon of a ''mom'. Yet she'll still have her supporters among the fringes. Shameful carry on.

Sure it was the toddler's choice to declare himself as a homosexual at 2 and then to his teacher and friends. He had full control of this decision...................... There is nothing illegal about it so no problem

Omackeral · 06-01-2019 4:20pm

Seriously, imagine someone coming up to you and saying ''this is my 3 year old son, he's gay.''

Omackeral · 06-01-2019 4:20pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Seriously, imagine someone coming up to you and saying ''this is my 3 year old son, he's gay.''

Or ''this is my 11 year old son, he twerks in gay bars at 4am for tips.''

How Soon Is Now · 06-01-2019 4:21pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old. Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it. Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?

The mother is an unstable individual who let's her twisted politics take over basic parenting.

You see it all time with these young kids who know and act in ways most other kids have no idea about its thr parents or parent making them into something that they wouldn't of been otherwise.

Ffs you would have a dog taken off of you if you didn't look after it and it ran wild yet people like this are allowed to ruin children's life's for the sake of there own warped views.

Omackeral · 06-01-2019 4:23pm

Defaulter1831 wrote: »

Don't Thank Me

Whatever forum you ever appear on again you'll forever be seen as either a troll or someone who holds ideas detrimental to the protection of children. That's about as mild as I can put it without receiving an infraction.

I believe the term wrong'un is used by our friends across the Irish sea.

Zorya · 06-01-2019 4:24pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old. Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it. Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?

Attention.

Regular well-balanced people don't go around saying Oh My Gorsh, my child is straight, a straight child, I tells ya!

Why the heck would Desmond's mother have announced at his kindergarten that he is gay. Who gives a toss.

Anyway, what does being gay or straight mean? It means having a sexual attraction to the same or the opposite sex. What parent is hyping their child's sexual preference at THREE!? Or even at 7 or 11 or feck it all the way up till they are old enough to actually grasp what sexual interaction means. Meaningfully, like.

Who cares what kid is gay or straight. The fact that this kid is put out there - on national TV - as a symbol of the free expression of gay or trans kids - actually says a whole lot more than this is a ''drag kid''.

The whole thing is premature sexualisation. It's the message. All of it. Sheesh.

The Talking Bread · 06-01-2019 4:25pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old. Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it. Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?

Very very probably. In fact this is clearly the case. He was brought to drag shows at that age so there was a definite grooming and influencing of his lifestyle, personality, behaviour.
The parents are whoring him out and benefiting very well financially from him.

DontThankMe · 06-01-2019 4:25pm

end of the road wrote: »

he's an 11 year old child. most 11 year old children aren't in clubs at 4am twerking and having money thrown at them. they also don't have their sexuality determined by their parents at 3 years old.
for god sake i didn't even know what drag performing or even drag was at 11, i didn't know what gay was when i was 3. i presume most children would be and would have been the same, you know, because we were children and it wasn't something we needed to know until an appropriate time.
so yeah, i'd suggest that should be evidence enough that he has been conditioned to do this rather then he actually wants to do it, and even if he wants to do it, it's not responsible parenting to pander to his wishes.

But he wasn't twerking in the club he was jumping and walking up and down no twerking in the video linked in the OP. How do we know that the parents of child determined his sexuality at the age of 3? Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself. Do you know at what age or how every child determines their sexuality? Each case is different and no two children are alike.

Gimme A Pound · 06-01-2019 4:26pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old. Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it. Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?

Why is that so far fetched in the case of a woman whose child twerks at an adult night club extremely late at night, aged seven years younger than the age people are permitted entry to such clubs? Or is it ten years younger when 21 is the legal age to drink?

The Talking Bread · 06-01-2019 4:28pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

But he wasn't twerking in the club he was jumping and walking up and down no twerking in the video linked in the OP. How do we know that the parents of child determined his sexuality at the age of 3? Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself. Do you know at what age or how every child determines their sexuality? Each case is different and no two children are alike.

No it isn't. You clearly need a biology lesson as well as psyciatric checkup.

Omackeral · 06-01-2019 4:28pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

How do we know that the parents of child determined his sexuality at the age of 3? Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself.

No, he was 3 years of poxy age, probably still in nappies. What the fcuk is wrong with you?

Plumbthedepths · 06-01-2019 4:31pm

Folks I genuinely believe ye are being trolled. Just put him/ her on ignore.

DontThankMe · 06-01-2019 4:33pm

Kenna Fresh Teflon wrote: »

Why is that so far fetched in the case of a woman whose child twerks at an adult night club extremely late at night, aged seven years younger than the age people are permitted entry to such clubs? Or is it ten years younger when 21 is the legal age to drink?

Because she has the best interests of the child in her mind and she is allowing him to express himself. Therefore, there is no malice in her actions and she is not using him for her own personal gain.

The Talking Bread · 06-01-2019 4:35pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Folks I genuinely believe ye are being trolled. Just put him/ her on ignore.

100%

Figured this out a couple of hours ago.

end of the road · 06-01-2019 4:40pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old.

i don't know, nor care. but i do know it's not normal and it is wrong. children need to be able to find and discover their own sexuality, not have it determined by their parents.

DontThankMe wrote: »

Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it.

it certainly looks like it, yes.

DontThankMe wrote: »

Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?

with respect yes . you are saying that because he supposibly wants to do it then it's okay. it's not okay. you are saying because his mother says something it's true and it's fine. it's not fine.

retro:electro · 06-01-2019 4:41pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

But there is no evidence to support the claims that this is casual child abuse. That's how people see it but it doesn't make it the truth.

If you have eyes that’s evidence enough for most

Wibbs · 06-01-2019 4:47pm

The Talking Bread wrote: »

100%

Figured this out a couple of hours ago.

Thank christ too. Then again there are enough oddballs out there.

end of the road · 06-01-2019 4:54pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

But he wasn't twerking in the club he was jumping and walking up and down no twerking in the video linked in the OP. How do we know that the parents of child determined his sexuality at the age of 3? Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself. Do you know at what age or how every child determines their sexuality? Each case is different and no two children are alike.

at 3 years old, no it is not possible for one to make the decisian about sexuality for themselves. both legally and mentally. each case is different and no child are alike is just whataboutery tbh.

retro:electro · 06-01-2019 5:00pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself. Do you know at what age or how every child determines their sexuality?

You don’t have the self awareness at 3 years old to know whether you’re gay, straight or Australian. My 3 year old niece thinks she’s a dog. My sister does in her hole introduce her as a dog to everyone she meets. Absolute turbo shlte you’re coming out with. Wind up.

Ulysses Gaze · 06-01-2019 5:02pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

But he wasn't twerking in the club he was jumping and walking up and down no twerking in the video linked in the OP. How do we know that the parents of child determined his sexuality at the age of 3? Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself. Do you know at what age or how every child determines their sexuality? Each case is different and no two children are alike.

What next DontThankMe. What if the 3 year old can determine their sexuality and then verbalises consent, would that make it ok in your book for an adult to sleep with them?

****ing hell this thread.....

11 yr/old drag kid worshiped within LGBTQ community (Mod warning op)

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