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11 yr/old drag kid worshiped within LGBTQ community (Mod warning op)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    MAPs gonna map


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭force eleven


    People need to repent. A lot of souls heading in one direction, and I hope they turn from this madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    What in the actual fuk?!

    Who's the murderer? And who's the other guy?

    I don’t know who these guys are but if Steve Buscemi taught me anything. It’s the guys in the yellow gilet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    The footage I posted wasn’t created by infowars? It’s raw footage of events uncovered by an undercover non affiliated journalist. Please Research before making comments please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Patty Hearst


    What in the actual fuk?!

    Who's the murderer? And who's the other guy?

    Michael Alig, former 'Club Kid' and famous party promoter from the 80's who Murdered a friend and chopped up the body over a drug debt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Michael Alig, former 'Club Kid' and famous party promoter from the 80's who Murdered a friend and chopped up the body over a drug debt.
    Holy... between that and the painting above - shouldn't it raise flags for child welfare at least?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    Holy... between that and the painting above - shouldn't it raise flags for child welfare at least?!

    You would think but in this brave new world it’s something to be celebrated apparently.

    We are self destructing at an alarming pace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Desmond is pictured below with a murderer and there's a painting of a child hanging on the wall behind and the word rohypnol is on the painting. I would think that it takes a certain type of person to either paint or buy that painting.

    So yeah, I think it's fair to say that he is surrounded by snakes.

    desmond-alig-e1547235528991.jpg

    Obviously paedos. I mean, just look at the staged photo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Rennaws wrote: »
    You would think but in this brave new world it’s something to be celebrated apparently.

    We are self destructing at an alarming pace.

    Who exactly is celebrating this? On here I mean??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    Obviously paedos. I mean, just look at the staged photo.

    All this hate, they are now referred to as MAP's (Minor attracted person). :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Calhoun wrote: »
    All this hate, they are now referred to as MAP's (Minor attracted person). :P

    I suppose staged is the significant word.

    Not sure if you've noticed, but many gay men like the stage, rather than simply the child on the stage.

    Or maybe there are genuinely more paedos in the lgbt community, but I'd need the research figures myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    BBFAN wrote: »
    Who exactly is celebrating this? On here I mean??

    I never mentioned anything about “on here”.

    Plenty of people are celebrating it though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    I suppose staged is the significant word.

    Not sure if you've noticed, but many gay men like the stage, rather than simply the child on the stage.

    Or maybe there are genuinely more paedos in the lgbt community, but I'd need the research figures myself.
    I have no reason to believe that there any more paedos who identify as gay than there are paedos who identify as heterosexual.

    Whether or not that photo is staged (and that's a pretty vague term) one man is a convicted murderer and the painting features a child with the word Rohypnol written on it. I don't know or care whether the two men are gay, or one is gay and the other is hetero, I don't know whether they are sexually attracted to children (I bloody well hope not) - I just know it's a wildly inappropriate setting for a child.

    I think celebration of such a scenario is on the fringes, but not far out there enough to be blanketly condemned.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This video claims Desmond is drugged in the interview with Michael Alig:

    https://youtu.be/zIl_2uj7340


    And here’s the actual video, which I honestly found incredibly disturbing to watch. Not least because he is sitting there with a convicted murderer with a painting of a child with rohypnol written on it in the background, but because he actually does look to me like he is drugged.

    https://youtu.be/HHxG8PAaYnY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    splashuum wrote: »
    The footage I posted wasn’t created by infowars? It’s raw footage of events uncovered by an undercover non affiliated journalist. Please Research before making comments please.

    Ah look get over it. Infowars cant be tsken seriously and neither can you if you give us links from infowars.

    Alex Jones the "journslist" has links to infowars anyway so really your comment is nonsense.

    Infowars isnt a reliable source
    Alex Jones isnt a reliable journalist

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Ah look get over it. Infowars cant be tsken seriously and neither can you if you give us links from infowars.

    Alex Jones the "journslist" has links to infowars anyway so really your comment is nonsense.

    Infowars isnt a reliable source
    Alex Jones isnt a reliable journalist

    Alex Jones /Infowars are not reliable sources- he seems a ridiculously apoplectic individual, though I found him amusing for the first hour of his Joe Rogan performance, after which I turned it off because it grew boring. I haven't gone to that site before. But because the link was posted here I looked at the video.

    The editing is a bit fanciful, soundtrack etc is a bit silly. And yet the video contains some few seconds of footage I had recently seen elsewhere, shown in that link at 1.08 - 1.12 minutes in. It depicts a grown man in lingerie twerking on all fours with his bottom faced towards an audience of very small children and their parents.
    I reckon it's worth a look if only at that time stamp to see what people have become somehow conditioned to accept.

    It is true that no mainstream outlets cover these stories. Why they don't is a very complicated area to understand /explain - but because they don't, then one is left to come upon the reportage on ''dodgy'' sites/sources. Which can then be dismissed as irrelevant or untrustworthy. It's becomes a hall of mirrors then.

    If one looks at the video somewhat objectively however and separates the material from the editing, it is undeniable that the actual footage exists. It is not re-enacted, it is not CGI - the material is there. Therefore the acts depicted took place.
    That video also shows links to images of naked drag queens posing with small children in photos. There was a link posted on this thread to a photo of a naked drag queen posing with Lactatia, the other young boy mentioned occasionally in this thread. As a result of linking to that photo a long time member of boards was site banned.

    The facts are that these photos exist, the tapes exist, but to know about it seems to be the crime here. To see them on sites that are socially unacceptable/silly seems to be more worthy of derision/condemnation than the fact that the evidence of this officially-promoted child-endangering degeneracy exists.

    The video link - https://www.infowars.com/watch/?video=5c9ab0fb96f802002664dfab


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    would people not be better off disavowing this weird kiddie stuff rather than blindly defending it because it camouflages itself with a rainbow flag?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Alex Jones and Infowars are simple not in any form a credible, reilable or trustworthy source at all.

    It has been well documented why.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,211 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    would people not be better off disavowing this weird kiddie stuff rather than blindly defending it because it camouflages itself with a rainbow flag?


    That’s a bit like asking would people not be better off putting their energies into focusing on cases where children are actually in danger, as opposed to attempting to whip up moral panic about frivolous nonsense like this?

    Putting this kind of stuff in the same context as people putting pressure on clinicians and politicians to encourage children to transition is where there is an actual risk to their health, as opposed to this sort of nonsense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    BBFAN wrote: »
    Who exactly is celebrating this? On here I mean??

    I'm too sleepy to bother looking back through the thread but there have been a couple of people on here who think there is nothing wrong with a child dancing for money at 2am in a nightclub.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Went down the rabbit hole on that murderer in the pic. Pretty mad reading about Club Kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Patty Hearst


    Alex Jones and Infowars are simple not in any form a credible, reilable or trustworthy source at all.

    It has been well documented why.

    Here's a better source, local ABC news affiliate for Houston

    https://abc13.com/drag-queen-storytime-reader-once-charged-with-assault/5197176/

    Washington Times also reported on it

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/18/houston-public-library-apologizes-letting-child-se/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    This video claims Desmond is drugged in the interview with Michael Alig:

    https://youtu.be/zIl_2uj7340


    And here’s the actual video, which I honestly found incredibly disturbing to watch. Not least because he is sitting there with a convicted murderer with a painting of a child with rohypnol written on it in the background, but because he actually does look to me like he is drugged.

    https://youtu.be/HHxG8PAaYnY


    Hmm, likes dislikes not shown ... :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That Michael guy literally chopped up a body and threw in the Hudson for a few bags of drugs. He didn't swing the hammer, but he started the altercation. Madness.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    _Godot_ wrote: »
    Don't trust anything coming from infowars.

    That this still needs to be said to what I assume is a grownup is shocking.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    The facts are that these photos exist, the tapes exist, but to know about it seems to be the crime here. To see them on sites that are socially unacceptable/silly seems to be more worthy of derision/condemnation than the fact that the evidence of this officially-promoted child-endangering degeneracy exists.

    The video link - https://www.infowars.com/watch/?video=5c9ab0fb96f802002664dfab[/quote]

    Are people actually that dumb that they refuse to view this footage just because infowars covered it? Keep your head in the sand lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    That Michael guy literally chopped up a body and threw in the Hudson for a few bags of drugs. He didn't swing the hammer, but he started the altercation. Madness.

    Then injected the guy with Drano, covered his mouth in tape and went out partying while his body rotted in his apartment. Watched a documentary about him on Netflix a while back. He has no remorse whatsoever, and even was joking and laughing when describing the murder and disposal of the body. He only cared about how being caught affected himself. Complete sociopath.
    splashuum wrote: »
    The facts are that these photos exist, the tapes exist, but to know about it seems to be the crime here. To see them on sites that are socially unacceptable/silly seems to be more worthy of derision/condemnation than the fact that the evidence of this officially-promoted child-endangering degeneracy exists.



    Are people actually that dumb that they refuse to view this footage just because infowars covered it? Keep your head in the sand lads.

    It's more than that, it's a way to write the whole thing off as nonsense, paint it all as a conspiracy theory and refuse to discuss it. the footage has been posted before on this thread but not from Infowars, and was ignored of course. When the opportunity to discredit it arises it's jumped on


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    splashuum wrote: »
    The facts are that these photos exist, the tapes exist, but to know about it seems to be the crime here. To see them on sites that are socially unacceptable/silly seems to be more worthy of derision/condemnation than the fact that the evidence of this officially-promoted child-endangering degeneracy exists.

    The video link - https://www.infowars.com/watch/?video=5c9ab0fb96f802002664dfab

    Are people actually that dumb that they refuse to view this footage just because infowars covered it? Keep your head in the sand lads.

    Watched it. If you fall for that, you need to get a grip. I'm open to Infowars covering stuff, but that editing is nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Exactly. I find Alex Jones utterly reprehensible (I think Paul Joseph Watson makes very valid points - and I disagree with other things he says) but what does that have to do with solid material in existence relating to the matter?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Watched it. If you fall for that, you need to get a grip. I'm open to Infowars covering stuff, but that editing is nonsense.

    It's not about ''falling for'' the edit. Of course it's atrocious. Conspiracy videos are among the worst I've ever seen in terms of edit - pathetic attempts to emulate montage. The regular media does not cover that sort of stuff so it is left to the lads and lassies in basements to cobble together some sort of join the dots extravaganza.

    BUT the raw pre-edit footage is there - it is undeniable. The film, the photos. It's real.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hmm, likes dislikes not shown ... :rolleyes:

    I didn’t notice that.... Interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    I have two big problems with this Desmond is Amazing thing.

    1. It really does like the kid is being abused, is hanging around with the wrong murderers, drug dealers etc. etc.

    2. Good Morning America celebrating Desmond is Amazing saying that he's the future of America which is legitimising the carry on in point number 1.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Dr. Johanna Olson Kennedy, who runs the Gender Clinic at Los Angeles Children's Hospital (and who advocates for mastectomies in girls from age 13) got grant funding last year to reduce the age at which children receive cross sex hormones from 13 to 8 years old. That is not puberty-blockers - that is full on CROSS SEX hormones from the other gender at EIGHT YEARS OLD. Testosterone injections or tablets, for example.

    This is the document proving same obtained under FOI by Dr Michael Laidlaw
    https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/3f4f51_a929d049f7fb46c7a72c4c86ba43869a.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    Zorya wrote: »
    Dr. Johanna Olson Kennedy, who runs the Gender Clinic at Los Angeles Children's Hospital (and who advocates for mastectomies in girls from age 13) got grant funding last year to reduce the age at which children receive cross sex hormones from 13 to 8 years old. That is not puberty-blockers - that is full on CROSS SEX hormones from the other gender at EIGHT YEARS OLD. Testosterone injections or tablets, for example.

    This is the document proving same obtained under FOI by Dr Michael Laidlaw
    https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/3f4f51_a929d049f7fb46c7a72c4c86ba43869a.pdf

    There are some very sick puppies operating under the banner of healthcare


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,691 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    looks like Sweden doesnt know where the line in the sand is anymore

    https://www.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/sveriges-storsta-konsmottagning-har-opererat-bort-brost-pa-minst-en-14-aring

    The Karolinska University Hospital contains the largest centre for the treatment of gender dysphoria in Sweden and despite doctors elsewhere not performing medical procedures on children under 16, a report has claimed that doctors at the hospital have removed the breasts of at least one 14-year-old girl, SVT reports.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Sweden is the warning we need to heed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭pure.conya


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Have you actually watched the video? I only see some photographers. I don't see any men, gay or straight, salvating. You have a great imagination. Is it even a nightclub? It looks like a talant show to me.

    I do have an issue with any child, boy or girl, preforming in a nightclub, gay or straight.

    so lets say you are a photographer and ended up in that room. you'd find nothing wrong with taking pics of this child and putting them on your computer afterwards? i know I'd run a funking mile from any of this carry on


  • Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭pure.conya


    I have no reason to believe that there any more paedos who identify as gay than there are paedos who identify as heterosexual.

    Whether or not that photo is staged (and that's a pretty vague term) one man is a convicted murderer and the painting features a child with the word Rohypnol written on it. I don't know or care whether the two men are gay, or one is gay and the other is hetero, I don't know whether they are sexually attracted to children (I bloody well hope not) - I just know it's a wildly inappropriate setting for a child.

    I think celebration of such a scenario is on the fringes, but not far out there enough to be blanketly condemned.

    this wildly inappropriate setting for a child, is precisely what's quite rightly banned in Russia, the state of those 2 predator looking grown men is just sick, and the cut of the poor kid, i feel sick after skipping through that vid

    its obvious that none of this is going to end well at all at all


  • Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭pure.conya


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Desmond is pictured below with a murderer and there's a painting of a child hanging on the wall behind and the word rohypnol is on the painting. I would think that it takes a certain type of person to either paint or buy that painting.

    So yeah, I think it's fair to say that he is surrounded by snakes.

    desmond-alig-e1547235528991.jpg

    you and the other poster are totally correct in my mind, call me what ya like or even ban me from this thread, but this is beyond fecked up, there's no feckin way I'd have those 2 predatory looking paedos in the same room as my kids, if i had found my ex partner had introduced one of them to this scene and appear in a vid such as that there would definitely be 2 less predatory looking paedos walking around


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    silverharp wrote: »

    That is shocking. Meanwhile there are campaigns to raise awareness and stop the harmful and abusive practice of breast ironing on young girls. But performing mastectomies on teenagers, and prior to that, binding their breasts, is totally nothing like that. the cognitive dissonance is astounding.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Patty Hearst


    Deansgrange Library was set to host a 'Drag Story Time' for Children ages 3 - 7

    Screen-Shot-2019-04-14-at-22-32-24.png

    featuring a 'Drag' group named 'Glitter Hole' self described 'Leather Daddies' Unabashedly Queer' 'Gay Witches for Abortion AKA 'Fianna Fellatio'

    Screen-Shot-2019-04-14-at-22-40-02.png

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    Fortunately however, concerned Parents and Citizens contacted the Library in large numbers and voiced their displeasure and alarm at such an overtly sexually explicit act being booked to talk to Children.

    The venue then, exercising its right to free speech, decided thankfully to cancel the event.

    Screen-Shot-2019-04-14-at-22-22-17.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Deansgrange Library was set to host a 'Drag Story Time' for Children ages 3 - 7

    Screen-Shot-2019-04-14-at-22-32-24.png

    featuring a 'Drag' group named 'Glitter Hole'
    Mother of god, who decided this was a good idea in the first place...

    No doubt they'll have to contend with allegations of homophobia.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    Mother of god, who decided this was a good idea in the first place...

    No doubt they'll have to contend with allegations of homophobia.

    Some unaccountable manager/employee/civil serving had to have signed off on this. They should be ducking hung. Sick bastards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,659 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Are people seriously saying drag is automatically age-imappropriate?

    Have these people never been to a pantomime?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Are people seriously saying drag is automatically age-imappropriate?
    Yes when it's an adult (as in its performances are for adults at bars and nightclubs) drag act called Glitter Hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,659 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Are people seriously saying drag is automatically age-imappropriate?
    Yes when it's an adult (as in its performances are for adults at bars and nightclubs) drag act called Glitter Hole.

    Ok. Is the content going to be the same for the kids and will the kids get the innuendo?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Ok. Is the content going to be the same for the kids and will the kids get the innuendo?

    Sometimes the content is the same for kids, it seems.

    https://imgur.com/a/mjuhThk

    I don't see any reason for drag queens to read to small children. Pantomime is not the same even if they use cross-gender performances, although if a pantomime performer was very sexualised I would also have a problem for that when it comes to children.

    Drag Queens are specifically sexual, long associated with the gay scene. The element of sexuality is undeniable in spite of these attempts to push the drag scene into children's spaces. Drag Queens used to be almost entirely gay men, and there is even some controversy now as to whether trans people performing drag are entitled to be considered in the same field, as the performance has hitherto been based on the idea of a man acting as a woman.

    The problem is the inevitable sexualised element, which cannot be excised from the very notion of drag queen. Most people of sound mind can see this.

    The attempt, however, to dismiss concerns about drag queens because they are said to be the ''same'' as pantomime dames is part of a bigger push towards sexualisation of children. It is the epitome of political gradualism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,659 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Zorya wrote: »
    Sometimes the content is the same for kids, it seems.

    https://imgur.com/a/mjuhThk

    I don't see any reason for drag queens to read to small children. Pantomime is not the same even if they use cross-gender performances, although if a pantomime performer was very sexualised I would also have a problem for that when it comes to children.

    Drag Queens are specifically sexual, long associated with the gay scene. The element of sexuality is undeniable in spite of these attempts to push the drag scene into children's spaces. Drag Queens used to be almost entirely gay men, and there is even some controversy now as to whether trans people performing drag are entitled to be considered in the same field, as the performance has hitherto been based on the idea of a man acting as a woman.

    The problem is the inevitable sexualised element, which cannot be excised from the very notion of drag queen. Most people of sound mind can see this.

    The attempt, however, to dismiss concerns about drag queens because they are said to be the ''same'' as pantomime dames is part of a bigger push towards sexualisation of children. It is the epitome of political gradualism.

    If they were doing what's happening in the video, I would totally agree with you - inappropriate.

    But is the association you mentioned in your head or the kids heads?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Zorya wrote: »
    The problem is the inevitable sexualised element
    Inevitable for whom?

    Drag is in effect just pantomime for adults. Anyone who believed that a drag act was going to read stories to kids in a sexually charged way and sprinkled with innuendo, is an idiot.

    This sounds like a few Helen Lovejoys overreacted and the library caved. Given the location, most likely it was someone with political connections having a conniption.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    seamus wrote: »
    Inevitable for whom?

    Drag is in effect just pantomime for adults. Anyone who believed that a drag act was going to read stories to kids in a sexually charged way and sprinkled with innuendo, is an idiot.

    Drag is sexualised. I've yet to see a sexualised pantomime performance.

    Have a look at this.

    https://imgur.com/a/mjuhThk


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