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Archers Wood “Delgany”

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    REFLINE1 wrote: »
    Unfortunately poor installation often leads to the timber frame becoming exposed to the elements!

    Exactly.
    Once built properly I would have no concerns, but I would be concerned about many of the Celtic Tiger homes.

    Looking at the old Georgian houses around Dublin, many of them had to be reroofed as the wood had rotted. However the brick and concrete walls in most cases remain in relatively good condition.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,091 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    2011 wrote: »
    Exactly.
    Once built properly I would have no concerns, but I would be concerned about many of the Celtic Tiger homes.

    Looking at the old Georgian houses around Dublin, many of them had to be reroofed as the wood had rotted. However the brick and concrete walls in most cases remain in relatively good condition.

    I'm sure the original owners of these were raging! :D


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    awec wrote: »
    I'm sure the original owners of these were raging! :D


    No doubt :D

    Back in the day I wired a number of these that were being restored.
    Very well built. Some had issues with foundations but the wood for joists (floor and roof), partition walls and floorboards were often beyond repair. Some of the hardwood sash windows lated well though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭dannyc31


    does anyone living close by know which part of the site they have the houses up already? is it the houses right at the back of the site south of the proposed playing fields and closest to Glenbrook house or is it the section of the estate in the middle which will include apartments and duplex houses?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 dazziola


    dannyc31 wrote: »
    does anyone living close by know which part of the site they have the houses up already? is it the houses right at the back of the site south of the proposed playing fields and closest to Glenbrook house or is it the section of the estate in the middle which will include apartments and duplex houses?

    Not sure where the playing field a are to be, but the area I've marked in the attachment in red are almost done by the looks of it.

    The area marked in orange looks like it's kicking off. Hope that helps!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭dannyc31


    dazziola wrote: »
    Not sure where the playing field a are to be, but the area I've marked in the attachment in red are almost done by the looks of it.

    The area marked in orange looks like it's kicking off. Hope that helps!


    thats great thanks for the info.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Blue_Chip


    Do we have any update on this ?
    I know that the construction is off limit these days but it seems we are in limbo for a long time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    Blue_Chip wrote: »
    Do we have any update on this ?
    I know that the construction is off limit these days but it seems we are in limbo for a long time.

    I live beside the site, havent seen any builders on it in ages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Blue_Chip


    Cluster wrote: »
    I live beside the site, havent seen any builders on it in ages.

    Thanks a lot for the info.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭dannyc31


    i'd be curious to know how much interest there will be in these homes when they launch. does anyone remember when the Glenheron developments launched some years back? just wondering did all the homes get snapped up very quickly particularly the 3 beds.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    dannyc31 wrote: »
    i'd be curious to know how much interest there will be in these homes when they launch.

    I expect that the demand will be through the roof and it will be the same old sory where the first phase will be the cheapest.
    Time will tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭dannyc31


    2011 wrote: »
    and it will be the same old sory where the first phase will be the cheapest.
    Time will tell.


    oh right, is this a common thing with new developments that phase one is always the cheapest? why would they do that and not just have them all at the higher prices if the demand is massive?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    dannyc31 wrote: »
    oh right, is this a common thing with new developments that phase one is always the cheapest?

    From what I have observed in these parts, yes.

    why would they do that and not just have them all at the higher prices if the demand is massive?

    In my opinion they test the water the first time around. If they sell phase 1 rapidly (which so often happens) they will attempt to squeeze more money out of people the next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭jpd


    The cash flow squeeze is probably not as tight on the 2nd phase so they can up the price and wait

    Getting cash in from the 1st phase is probably a priority so selling them as quickly as possible is the preferred option. Mr Banker is probably prodding them along


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Aronaay


    Blue_Chip wrote: »
    Do we have any update on this ?
    I know that the construction is off limit these days but it seems we are in limbo for a long time.

    There have been builders on the site the last 2 weeks slowly increasing in numbers. They’ve also had fuel trucks going to the site the entire lockdown. I live right beside there storage area.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 bluser


    They already started to sale the houses.
    First ~20 houses were sale agreed last week (I assume during one day), so it's really likely that they would increase prices for next releases.
    3bd semi were 490k, with backyards facing west (almost west-north), but were taken in a first few hours (I wasn't lucky to get one).
    I imagine that south facing backyards with view on the green field would be way more than 500k :(

    Has anyone heard when next release would happen?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Blue_Chip


    bluser wrote: »
    They already started to sale the houses.
    First ~20 houses were sale agreed last week (I assume during one day), so it's really likely that they would increase prices for next releases.
    3bd semi were 490k, with backyards facing west (almost west-north), but were taken in a first few hours (I wasn't lucky to get one).
    I imagine that south facing backyards with view on the green field would be way more than 500k :(

    Has anyone heard when next release would happen?

    I'm not sure if we are talking about the same property. I'm just off the phone with the EA and they told me that Archers Wood has not been released yet. They are expecting to launch in in Summers (depending on Covid restrictions) . Also, the price range is 460-470 for a 3 Bed Semi.
    Do you have any link/source to verify the claims ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 bluser


    I am confident that I am talking about the Archers Wood in Delgany - that's what they sent in the sale brochure imgur.com/a/oZohr9D
    Who is you EA: KellyWalsh or SherryFitz?
    I wonder why they haven't told you about the real pricing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Blue_Chip


    bluser wrote: »
    I am confident that I am talking about the Archers Wood in Delgany - that's what they sent in the sale brochure imgur.com/a/oZohr9D
    Who is you EA: KellyWalsh or SherryFitz?
    I wonder why they haven't told you about the real pricing.

    My EA is SherryFitz. The brochure looks alright. May I know who's your EA ?
    I'm wondering why they didn't tell me anything this morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Wopp


    Made a facebook group for anyone buying or in the process of buying. It was invaluable for the estate i'm in currently during the building/snagging/moving in phases. Currently in the buying process myself and awaiting contracts.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/152371286758581/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Cheeseplant


    Blue_Chip wrote: »
    My EA is SherryFitz. The brochure looks alright. May I know who's your EA ?
    I'm wondering why they didn't tell me anything this morning.

    Just wondering if you got any update on this? I fired off an email to a contact in SF New Homes but they are on leave until later in the week. I am registered for info on Archers Wood but have not received any launch info as yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Cheeseplant


    dannyc31 wrote: »
    i'd be curious to know how much interest there will be in these homes when they launch. does anyone remember when the Glenheron developments launched some years back? just wondering did all the homes get snapped up very quickly particularly the 3 beds.

    There was an off plan release in June 2017 395k-430k for 3 beds (96-110 sqM) and 465-575k for 4 beds (131-170sqM)
    In Jan 2019 the View launched, 3 bed terrace from 440, 3 bed semi from 450, 4 bed semi from 499950.


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Captcha


    I hear the 3 beds there are already well over 500k

    Glenheron actually dropped its prices end of 2019


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Cheeseplant


    Captcha wrote: »
    I hear the 3 beds there are already well over 500k

    Glenheron actually dropped its prices end of 2019

    500k for a 3 bed?! crazy. Did they actually launch? I'm curious as to why they was no launch email


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,107 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    I cycle past the site regularly, it's dead, there is no work taking place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 merikahan


    those who has booked the houses, what's the price for 3 bed they are asking for?


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 Downloaded


    I see prices now advertised of between 470k and 550k - Anyone know how many units are available in the first phase and how many are 3 beds or 4 beds?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Blue_Chip


    I think the total units available are (were) 40 in the first phase of the launch. 28 of them 3Beds and 12 4Beds. The 3Beds were priced from 470-510k and the 4Beds from 555-585k.


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭SlinkyL


    Blue_Chip wrote: »
    I think the total units available are (were) 40 in the first phase of the launch. 28 of them 3Beds and 12 4Beds. The 3Beds were priced from 470-510k and the 4Beds from 555-585k.
    Are the units released today sold already?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭dannyc31


    SlinkyL wrote: »
    Are the units released today sold already?


    i think so. i know a couple who were hoping to get one in this phase who were told its only cancellations now.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    dannyc31 wrote: »
    i think so. i know a couple who were hoping to get one in this phase who were told its only cancellations now.

    It’s quite incredible, especially considering that subsequent phases will be even more expensive. The boom is back!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Blue_Chip


    The boom is definitely back and with some more power this time. There is a lot of demand and nearly no supply to meet that demand. Heard about somerton in lucan where there are 5000 interests for 44 odd houses. I would say that in Archers wood as well, there was a lot of demand for 30 houses that were launched in this phase.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Indeed.
    It will be interesting to see just how far they will manage to hike the prices up. I feel sorry for anyone particularly young people trying to buy homes in the area.

    The “good news” is that the build quality seems excellent this time around which is a marked improvement compared to many of the Celtic Tiger built properties from last time.

    During the end of the CT years I slept in a car overnight to buy my current home. I imagine we are back at that point now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭jpd


    Blue_Chip wrote: »
    There is a lot of demand and nearly no supply to meet that demand.

    And the "Don't build any more houses beside me" crowd are not helping


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    jpd wrote: »
    And the "Don't build any more houses beside me" crowd are not helping

    These people have long since been overruled.

    Almost every available square inch in Greystones / Delgany has been built on, is being built on or very soon will be built on. The ship has sailed a long time ago for anyone in the area that doesn’t want homes built beside them.

    The solution: Developments that are well outside Greystones/ Delgany are being sold as Greystones / Delgany. This has the desired aim of massively inflating the asking price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Blue_Chip


    As far as I'm aware, the cost of raw material has gone substantially up in the last 12 months. Copper up 300%, lumber up 300% as well, so are aluminum and other material. The increase in price factor at this time is in part because of the raw material price increase and that's not just Ireland, It is all over the world now. Thankfully the prices of raw material have cooled down in the last few days but consumer would still end up paying the costs for a long time. The pandemic has also not helped with prices of the places 'away from city center' rising much more than the centers because of the remote working.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    I work in the construction industry. Yes, the costs of all materials have shot up. However, this only explains a small part of the dramatic house price increases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭digiman


    Any news on the 5 beds here? I don’t see any floor plans for them


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 tris111


    Hi guys, do you know what section of the development is launching in the next phase in Autumn by any chance?

    Also, does anyone know was it the 3 bed side entry that were 510k in the first phase?

    :)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 asps


    Hi Guys, Long story short we got an email regard to launching dates 3 days prior launch dates were 9th Sep, and by the time I replied email within in next 20 mins, and I got a response back saying all of the appointments for this Thursday(9th), Friday and Saturday was booked, later I replied to the same email in next 1 min and requesting to provide to take next appointment which I got a response on Saturday(18) and confirmed that I can reserve, but later today I saw the email and I was shocked because all the homes are now reserved it seems, and they told me if you want to come and see the show house you can come on agreed date and time.

    I just wonder how many people responded within 20 mins / how many confirmed to agreed schedule viewing / how many people saw the show house / and how many reserved on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday?

    or Just scamming innocent people?

    and @tris111 - prices 3 Bed starts from 485k 4 Bed starts 580k, I met one person who had paid 490k 3 semi with south facing garden and believe me garden size looks like not more than 70sqm.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Sadly I sense a price increase is on the way for the next phases if they are selling that quickly.

    During the Celtic Tiger I remember sleeping in a car overnight to get my current home.

    The prices in the post above are obscene and it only seems to be getting worse. The boom is back. This is horrendous for young people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭dannyc31


    really, are you sure that couple got a south facing home for €490k? normally they would charge a premium for the south facing homes and i know the standard east and west facing homes were all €490k.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Blue_Chip


    There is a massive demand for the houses these days. I'm not trying to scare people here but I'll tell you about the response time of the email. I replied to the email within 50 seconds (yes you can see upto the exact second on the time stamp of the email) and got 11 in the queue. I know 2 more people who replied within 90 seconds and were 16 and 20 in the queue. So, if you are saying that after 20 minutes all the slots were filled, I wouldn't be surprised to find that out.

    When it comes to the price, there are people who have paid north of 500k for a 3 bed south facing houses (in phase 1). The garden size also varies from the house to house but in my opinion, it is from 70 sq M to 95 sq M for most of the 3 beds.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    ^^^ The sad thing is that I believe you. I think the comes a point people have to ask themselves, “how much is too much?”



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 asps


    Yes, i understand but email can't be reservation system. it need two parties to agree on schedule time.rather than sending a launch email at random time, they should have to given a link to come and register and book a available slot on notified date and time so link will be active.

    i strongly think email method easy to say its just luck but behind its scandalous.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 asps


    but saying inflation 'how much' it impacts for construction is question is it realistic to increase 30 k every phase .. no its not its human sentiments builder are playing with somebody going to pay big prices one day



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 handycode


    For new houses they need to go the same bidding system as for second hand market, basically who is going to pay the higher price will get a house, it's not a social housing so its just a business, nothing personal. Why would they need to sell at lower then market price? I won't be surprised if prices will go up again, starting with €525k for 3bed townhouse, and €550 for 3 bed semi.



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ARJn


    New Phase launched last week , 3 bed Semi/terrace started at 540 (most of them were 585 and some were 565)

    60k above previous phase getting crazy , I remeber missing phase 1 appointment when it was 465 for the same house



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    This is going nuts again. It won’t end well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Chiliconkeni


    Hi all,

    Im interested in hearing from anyone who has bought in archers wood or lives in local estate. How do you like the area, do you feel that it is well connected to Greystones or does it feel quite a bit out of town.

    Also interested in different house types side entry v front entry.

    Any other insight or perspectives on experience living here. We are a young family and hear that it’s really nice area. We would be quite active, and would like to settle here



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