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Netflix sexualising children.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Not just that, but the American Nazis are producing all the child porn and then are out protesting it
    Their cunning knows no bounds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    LOL is that bot replying or can Netflix really not bring itself to condemn paedophilia?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Sonic the Shaghog


    LOL is that bot replying or can Netflix really not bring itself to condemn paedophilia?

    I was thinking maybe some poor misfortune who just copy and paste the company script as even if they said the obviously right thing and said no they'd still get punished for "going off script"

    Some places are just stupid in their policies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    LOL is that bot replying or can Netflix really not bring itself to condemn paedophilia?

    I mean, I think the cover is bloody disturbing but I can't fathom why people think some random lad sitting in a call centre is able to say anything other than the official script.

    It's like the Apple tax fiasco years ago, people calling their customer service team for thoughts on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Netflix Apologizes For “Inappropriate” ‘Cuties’ Poster That Was Criticized For Sexualizing Children

    So , the issue is with the crappy promo image that someone in Netflix used for the US release , not with the actual Movie , the content of which bears no resemblance to the Promo image.

    Netflix have removed the promo image.

    It's looked very alike all the cheersquad and gymnastics themed movies where the girls where similar attire (the joy of having preteen kids ) ,

    Much ado about nothing

    Much alike the recent car add on social media with a child eating a lollipop that had the mobs screaming child sexploitation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    A few years ago In a previous life on boards I said that being a liberal progressive (due to the ever shifting notions of morality) means that you end up having to defend and endorse all manner of depravity and lunacy. I think I was right on that.

    I have witnessed that myself.

    Someone so caught up in defending cultural rights (which I mostly agree on) and how we can't judge properly as we don't understand from their perspective...all well and good until this person was suddenly defending cultural practices like raping virgins as a "cure" for HIV in some parts of the world.

    Cultures should be respected but barbarism can and should be criticised.

    The finger in the mouth of one of the kids on those posters is a bit OTT and hints at a problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    So this is the Ireland branch of
    Qanon resides.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Lolita, Bugsy Malone, Mini Pops, Little Miss Sunshine. Were you manning the barricade for any of them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I watched the trailer expecting to be pretty offended (based on that promo picture) but tbh I wasn't, it looked fairly innocent.

    I'd be more worried about kid beauty pageants etc which are seriously exploitative and utterly bizarre, there are tonnes of reality programmes in that area weirdly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    gmisk wrote: »
    I watched the trailer expecting to be pretty offended (based on that promo picture) but tbh I wasn't, it looked fairly innocent.

    I'd be more worried about kid beauty pageants etc which are seriously exploitative and utterly bizarre, there are tonnes of reality programmes in that area weirdly.

    I'd agree with all of that...but why is a movie about 11 year old girls rated for adult viewers...that is a little strange!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I'd agree with all of that...but why is a movie about 11 year old girls rated for adult viewers...that is a little strange!
    I honestly have no idea.
    I don't see its rating on the bbfc website which would be my go to tbh.

    I did see a film called good boys a while back which was definitely R rated it had 3 kids in the lead.

    It is really being torn apart online as in it has 1.4 on imdb, what were Netflix thinking with that poster, I honestly don't think there would be any fuss without it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    gmisk wrote: »
    I honestly have no idea.
    I don't see its rating on the bbfc website which would be my go to tbh.

    I did see a film called good boys a while back which was definitely an 18+ it had 3 kids in the lead.

    It is really being torn apart online as in it has 1.4 on imdb, what were Netflix thinking with that poster, I honestly don't think there would be any fuss without it.

    I think most of the point of the OP is what were Netflix thinking with that poster. That is the interesting question. A promo poster has to go through loads of people, designers, campaign people, bums on seats in meetings etc. What were all those people at Netflix thinking indeed that 11 year old children striking up those poses was perfectly fine for national release?
    And I think one can think those stupid dance shows with lipsticked kids are dreadful and yet still have room in the brain for thinking that Cuties promo material is seedy and weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    I think most of the point of the OP is what were Netflix thinking with that poster. That is the interesting question. A promo poster has to go through loads of people, designers, campaign people, bums on seats in meetings etc. What were all those people at Netflix thinking indeed that 11 year old children striking up those poses was perfectly fine for national release?
    And I think one can think those stupid dance shows with lipsticked kids are dreadful and yet still have room in the brain for thinking that Cuties promo material is seedy and weird.
    Don't disagree with any of that.

    The point I was trying to make was that I think those child beauty pageant/dancing kids are even worse as they feature actual kids real life etc, I wasn't trying to take away from that promo being seedy and weird which it definitely is imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It's part of the normalisation of pedophilia.

    I mean you have the media promoting 'virtuous' pedophiles, and child drag queens. Now this.

    Oh dear and only 5 posts in


  • Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Image wasn't fake. Netflix just apologised for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Image wasn't fake. Netflix just apologised for it.

    The original description, if the internet is to be believed, was that the movie was about an 11 year girl exploring her femininity...

    Jesus Netflix, that* and the poster were completely unnecessary!

    *assuming the description suggested that originally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Anybody actually seen the film? Not really my thing, unless the child dancers are fighting off an alien invasion, but shouldn't people have seen the film before getting too outraged?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Irishman80


    Haven't seen the show myself.

    Simple rule for me: If most Paedophiles enjoy this show, then it's likely a show I'll find disturbing at some level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Anybody actually seen the film? Not really my thing, unless the child dancers are fighting off an alien invasion, but shouldn't people have seen the film before getting too outraged?

    Defeats the purpose of being outraged


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Irishman80 wrote: »

    Simple rule for me: If most Paedophiles enjoy this show, then it's likely a show I'll find disturbing at some level.

    But how would you what they would enjoy exactly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I would imagine the film isn't what it appeared to be but there is a Nonce at Netflix that eroticised it. I would imagine there are a lot of nonces at Netflix HQ, they have a lot of red flags, but if the senior people at the company (assuming they are not deviants too) are serious about basic ethics then they need to remove the person who made this poster and the people who OK'd it.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,810 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    I took the attached screenshot earlier myself for the record.

    The last line of the bio for this on YouTube has now been removed.

    I think it's grotesque for a corporation to get behind a production focussed on 11yo girls in a "twerking dance crew" given the sexually charged origins of twerking.

    Sincerely yours,

    QAnon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Shield wrote: »

    I think it's grotesque for a corporation to get behind a production focussed on 11yo girls in a "twerking dance crew

    But every other dance crew is ok because watch any of the current line up of kids based dance shows and movies and you will see exactly the same the outfits are the same if not worse in some cases


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Various Artists do not post in this thread again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Irishman80


    Gatling wrote: »
    But how would you what they would enjoy exactly

    It's not really a hidden secret as to what Paedophiles enjoy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Hmmm. I have a question. When Netflix were designing the US campaign for Mignonnes and managed to come up with this poster, did they photoshop in the kids heads on some idiot's patched up design for slap yer booty 11 year olds, or did the actual French kids in the movie do a photoshoot that resulted in that promo image?


  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Psychiatric Patrick


    Image wasn't fake. Netflix just apologised for it.

    I just saw that and I have to ask how did it get to the point that Netflix needed to withdraw the poser and apologise? Who at Netflix came up the image and who bought it was good idea to prove it?

    I think some people at Netflix need therapy to back to college as they clearly are not very good at their job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Psychiatric Patrick


    Anybody actually seen the film? Not really my thing, unless the child dancers are fighting off an alien invasion, but shouldn't people have seen the film before getting too outraged?

    A film's marketing campaign is meant to promote what a movie is about. By it very nature, the advertising is how it is judged before it it is seen.

    And who has children pose like that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Psychiatric Patrick


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    Hmmm. I have a question. When Netflix were designing the US campaign for Mignonnes and managed to come up with this poster, did they photoshop in the kids heads on some idiot's patched up design for slap yer booty 11 year olds, or did the actual French kids in the movie do a photoshoot that resulted in that promo image?

    That is good question because I cannot for the life of me figure out the poster was even created, let alone approved.

    If they actually got the kids to pose for this it is even more difficult to understand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Psychiatric Patrick


    oLoonatic wrote: »
    I see children dancing and having fun with their friends from different backgrounds. If you see anything else perhaps you need to look at yourself. Nothing in the trailer would suggest to me it is trying to "sexualise" children!

    You don't see anything wrong with the poster? Some people at Netflix disagree


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  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Psychiatric Patrick


    hots wrote: »
    You might need to look a bit closer to home if you find these kids dancing sexual. Looks like a fairly standard drama about diverse backgrounds and kids growing up.

    The trailer is about that. The poster indices something else and Netflix itself has admitted that.

    And apparently there was something in the description of the film itself that was also an issue.

    I think you might need to look a bot closer to home if udon't see what is wrong here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 467 ✭✭nj27


    Didn't they ever boil a frog? You can't whack the heat up too quickly or the motherfucker will hop out of the pot. Tiny incremental increases is how you push a depraved agenda into the mainstream.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Shield wrote: »
    I took the attached screenshot earlier myself for the record.

    The last line of the bio for this on YouTube has now been removed.

    I think it's grotesque for a corporation to get behind a production focussed on 11yo girls in a "twerking dance crew" given the sexually charged origins of twerking.

    Sincerely yours,

    QAnon

    If the film does include 11 year olds twerking then it's absolutely sexualising kids and I'm dead against it. None of that in the trailer though, just seemed like regular dancing. I did it myself as a kid in stage school.

    How the poster and the final line of that bio got approved is baffling. Did whoever wrote the bio not know what "twerking" means? Were they deliberately trying to provoke outrage? Very strange stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    So someone at Netflix took what seems to be an innocent movie about dance, and created that poster, and then someone at Netflix approved it WTF. Only in America would such a poster be signed off on.
    But Netflix know how to play the world, maybe it was approved to provoke a reaction, maybe two Netflix employees are high fiving each other while yelling '' mission accomplished ''
    It's all a game when promoting, those in the photos are just tools to work with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Psychiatric Patrick


    RWCNT wrote: »
    If the film does include 11 year olds twerking then it's absolutely sexualising kids and I'm dead against it. None of that in the trailer though, just seemed like regular dancing. I did it myself as a kid in stage school.

    How the poster and the final line of that bio got approved is baffling. Did whoever wrote the bio not know what "twerking" means? Were they deliberately trying to provoke outrage? Very strange stuff.

    I stopped reading the blurbs on Netflix long ago because they seemed to be typed up by some cabbagehead who learned reading and writing on twitter.

    They had probably never even watched the movie and had a brain fart session of what dance is "hip" at the moment. Just some idiots in a cubicle.

    It is the management that need the education. We both agree - who the heck gave this campaign the okay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,743 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    review from when it premiered at Sundance...

    https://decider.com/2020/01/23/cuties-sundance-review-netflix/
    The 11-year-old girls in Cuties—a French Netflix film that premiered at Sundance Film Festival on Thursday night—have a tentative grasp on the concept of sex. They theorize that oral sex involves a man’s penis filling up a woman’s entire body, and they know that condoms have something to do with AIDS, but they’re not quite sure what. But what they know with certainty is that sexuality is a girl’s key to attention and power. And they know that power is something they want.
    ....

    ... When one of The Cuties gets kicked out of the group—for betraying Angelica, their de facto leader—Amy impresses them with an audition. She has a secret weapon: A particularly risque dance move that involves humping the floor. Not even The Cuties have dared to be that sexual before.

    For American audiences, Cuties is an international story about a specific subset of Paris rarely seen on screen: A working-class, Muslim, Senegalese family. But it’s also a universal story about girlhood. Doucouré’s script perfectly captures that preteen desperation to fit in, which so many girls understand to mean to “be sexy.” With the daily barrage of hypersexualized women in media, how can you blame them? Amy’s goal is not to have sex with men—again, she barely understands the mechanics of sex—it’s to win the approval of her classmates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I watched the trailer? Where's the twerking or even any sexualised moves?

    In the head of the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,211 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Expect a knock on my front door for watching a link to youtube of a trailer of a film thats on Netflix. OK




    tenor.gif?itemid=14391548


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Jaysus can they not do gymnastics or maths or something less reliant on the attention of others for self esteem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭take everything


    Scarleh for posters saying nothing to see here.

    Seriously though, people need to watch those American Christian Nazis around their kids.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Image wasn't fake. Netflix just apologised for it.

    Cancelled my subs with them tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,743 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    #CancelNetflix


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Ah no calm down, I like watching star trek episodes at will


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    seamus wrote: »
    The image in the OP is a fake created to make it appear like this is a pageant-style movie about dancing 11 year olds being sexy. It's not an image that Netflix has produced.

    The "specialising in twerking routines" is also made up nonsense that has little to do with the film.

    Look at the trailer and you'll see very little connection with the fake posters the OP has posted.

    This an award-winning French film about a preteens immigrants difficulty aligning her home culture and home life with that around her. Examinig the early sexualisation of children is a theme in this movie.

    Of course, American Nazi and religious types are losing their mind about it, while ignoring the fact that they are the biggest creators and consumers of actual child porn in the world.

    Any chance you're going to correct your statement where you falsely claimed this was faked and convinced 36 people of such?

    And where you sort of accused OP and blamed American Nazis and religious people?

    Is it possible at all that the people losing their minds about it and the people producing child porn aren't the same people like you claimed? You do realise two people of the same religion aren't the same people and shouldn't be judged for the others actions right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Cancelled my subs with them tonight.

    Show us your cancellation then !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Gatling wrote: »
    Show us your cancellation then !

    #BelieveAllBoardsies


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    seamus wrote: »
    Of course, American Nazi and religious types are losing their mind about it, while ignoring the fact that they are the biggest creators and consumers of actual child porn in the world.

    Quite the balsy comment to make when you know full well who the biggest culprits for pedophilia were/are. But you are confident that the censor-brigade will close down that rabbit hole quick enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Gatling wrote: »
    Show us your cancellation then !

    Nope.

    "Much ado about nothing" is what you said earlier right?

    That's what you think of that picture in the OP. Sick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    It's 100% wrong. The cover pic is ...bizarre.

    The storyline is racist sexist and sexualizes children.

    If 12 yr old girls want to dance like they see adult women dance in their bedrooms that is fine. Its meant to be a safe space. They don't understand the sexual undertones. And even if they do they have the right not to be sexualized by society at that age.

    I don't know why the storyline is she is rebelling against her muslim family....ANY FAMILY would have a problem with their 12 yr old kid in a twerking group!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Excuse me, but in this trailer, the 11 year old's mother says to her "You're a woman now".



    The kids are performing adult style 'sexy' dancing.

    If the nature of the movie itself is something of more deeper importance, they could have conveyed that in the trailer to reflect that. Rather it looks like a movie about kids who want to get away from their guardianship life to 'be who they want to be' or is it'to do what they want to do'. At that age.

    To say the least of it, Netflix have gone about this all wrong.

    It's all messed up. On the one hand it seems to something about feminism, on the other something about repressive cultures, and on another, that somehow it's about misogyny and racism.

    Whatever way you look at it, it is all rather *ucked up imo. The very title is screwed up for a start.


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