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Netflix sexualising children.

  • 20-08-2020 1:10pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Netflix has an upcoming film "Cuties" which features an 11 year old from a conservative family who joins a dance group specialising in sexually provocative Twerking routines. The sexualisation of children is quite out in the open at this stage.

    11 year olds...


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    And? Why not do something about it? Complain. Cancel your subscription. Email your TD.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    And? Why not do something about it? Complain. Cancel your subscription. Email your TD.

    I have made a complaint, I don't have a subscription anymore.
    You seem to be upset..why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Jesus christ the moral decay is really setting in.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I have made a complaint, I don't have a subscription anymore.
    You seem to be upset..why?

    Not remotely upset. Just wondering what the daily outrage threads are supposed to accomplish.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭oLoonatic


    I see children dancing and having fun with their friends from different backgrounds. If you see anything else perhaps you need to look at yourself. Nothing in the trailer would suggest to me it is trying to "sexualise" children!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    You could frame this as Netflix sexualising young girls or you look at it as Netflix distributing a movie that aims to highlight the exploitation and sexualisation of young girls.

    Movies can be made about a subject without endorsing that subject matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    You might need to look a bit closer to home if you find these kids dancing sexual. Looks like a fairly standard drama about diverse backgrounds and kids growing up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Not remotely upset. Just wondering what the daily outrage threads are supposed to accomplish.

    This is the current affairs forum is it not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    oLoonatic wrote: »
    If you see anything else perhaps you need to look at yourself
    Didnt take long for that old chestnut to appear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    hitemfrank wrote: »
    You could frame this as Netflix sexualising young girls or you look at it as Netflix distributing a movie that aims to highlight the exploitation and sexualisation of young girls.

    Movies can be made about a subject without endorsing that subject matter.

    Looking at the trailer and the blurb by Netflix it doesn't seem like its about the exploitation and sexualisation of young girls, certainly not coming from a critical perspective anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    A few years ago In a previous life on boards I said that being a liberal progressive (due to the ever shifting notions of morality) means that you end up having to defend and endorse all manner of depravity and lunacy. I think I was right on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I won't be one bit surprised when Netflix are implicated in a Nonce Circle. Even without this they were ticking all the boxes with excessive virtue signalling. It's usually a sign for sex creeps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    A few years ago In a previous life on boards I said that being a liberal progressive (due to the ever shifting notions of morality) means that you end up having to defend and endorse all manner of depravity and lunacy. I think I was right on that.

    I would agree to an extent, but this isn't a great example of that from the trailer imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    A few years ago In a previous life on boards I said that being a liberal progressive (due to the ever shifting notions of morality) means that you end up having to defend and endorse all manner of depravity and lunacy. I think I was right on that.

    Weve reached the point where people are more comfortable excusing paedophelia and the sexualisation of children than agreeing with anyone they presume is ‘right wing’


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Weve reached the point where people are more comfortable excusing paedophelia and the sexualisation of children than agreeing with anyone they presume is ‘right wing’

    I doubt there's much paedophelia in this show tbf... If anything it looks like it might address the issue at the end where the girls are approached by the older kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    I watched the trailer? Where's the twerking or even any sexualised moves?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Thanks for pointing this out OP. I will be cancelling my Netflix subs later. Looks like something Jeffrey Epstein would enjoy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    hots wrote: »
    I doubt there's much paedophelia in this show tbf... If anything it looks like it might address the issue at the end where the girls are approached by the older kids.

    I mean in general, this show is still sexualising children though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Also watched the trailer. I'm at a loss at the assertion by the OP afterwards?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I watched the trailer? Where's the twerking or even any sexualised moves?
    As far as i can see it's mainly the first still photo in the OP with 3 of the kids in stripper poses


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    SeaFields wrote: »
    Also watched the trailer. I'm at a loss at the assertion by the OP afterwards?!

    If you don't think this is blatant sexualisation of children then I'm at a loss tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    I mean in general, this show is still sexualising children though.

    How so? There are loads of shows that do (half of the other teen-crap where the main characters are played by models in their early twenties) but this looks far more like a drama that is going to look at the problems the kids are facing, as opposed to 'look at these kids twerking and getting up to no good'.

    OP should have found a better example than just the show title and poster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    oLoonatic wrote: »
    I see children dancing and having fun with their friends from different backgrounds. If you see anything else perhaps you need to look at yourself. Nothing in the trailer would suggest to me it is trying to "sexualise" children!

    Take a long look at yourself if you think this isn't sexualisation of kids. Twerking and dressing like that is akin to something a stripper would do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    If you don't think this is blatant sexualisation of children then I'm at a loss tbh.

    Where is the twerking in the trailer? Where are the sexualised dance moves? Did watch the show and see children being sexualised?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Where is the twerking in the trailer? Where are the sexualised dance moves? Did watch the show and see children being sexualised?

    The original description of the show (before they changed it due to the backlash):
    “Amy, 11, becomes fascinated with a twerking dance crew. Hoping to join them, she starts to explore her femininity, defying her family’s traditions.”

    There may not be twerking in the trailer, but it was specifically and purposefully mentioned in the description.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    It's Parental Guidance rating is TV-MA, which is 18+ in our language. It is pure noncery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The image in the OP is a fake created to make it appear like this is a pageant-style movie about dancing 11 year olds being sexy. It's not an image that Netflix has produced.

    The "specialising in twerking routines" is also made up nonsense that has little to do with the film.

    Look at the trailer and you'll see very little connection with the fake posters the OP has posted.

    This an award-winning French film about a preteens immigrants difficulty aligning her home culture and home life with that around her. Examinig the early sexualisation of children is a theme in this movie.

    Of course, American Nazi and religious types are losing their mind about it, while ignoring the fact that they are the biggest creators and consumers of actual child porn in the world.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,486 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Take a long look at yourself if you think this isn't sexualisation of kids. Twerking and dressing like that is akin to something a stripper would do.

    What was in the video wasn't "twerking" or anything even remotely like it.

    And "Dressing like that" - You mean leotards and crop-tops?

    What else would you expect them to wear when dancing??

    Should they be in Burkas? (One of them actually appeared to be in the clip)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I took the OP at their word and didn't watch the video as I'm in a busy lab but I suppose this is why I have to ask for proof so often.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    seamus wrote: »
    The image in the OP is a fake created to make it appear like this is a pageant-style movie about dancing 11 year olds being sexy. It's not an image that Netflix has produced.

    The "specialising in twerking routines" is also made up nonsense that has little to do with the film.

    Look at the trailer and you'll see very little connection with the fake posters the OP has posted.

    This an award-winning French film about a preteens immigrants difficulty aligning her home culture and home life with that around her. Examinig the early sexualisation of children is a theme in this movie.

    Of course, American Nazi and religious types are losing their mind about it, while ignoring the fact that they are the biggest creators and consumers of actual child porn in the world.
    Good to know.

    Didn't know American Nazis were producing vast amounts of child porn have to say, every days a school day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    seamus wrote: »
    The image in the OP is a fake created to make it appear like this is a pageant-style movie about dancing 11 year olds being sexy. It's not an image that Netflix has produced.

    The "specialising in twerking routines" is also made up nonsense that has little to do with the film.

    Look at the trailer and you'll see very little connection with the fake posters the OP has posted.

    This an award-winning French film about a preteens immigrants difficulty aligning her home culture and home life with that around her. Examinig the early sexualisation of children is a theme in this movie.

    Of course, American Nazi and religious types are losing their mind about it, while ignoring the fact that they are the biggest creators and consumers of actual child porn in the world.

    Wheres your proof that is was faked? The poster (which is the American version) has appeared on countless media outlets worldwide.
    So to be against paedophilic imagery is to be a Nazi now? Good to know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,898 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Seems a harmless trailer. I think the one photo added to the first post made it look like it was a more provocative form of dance, but it's nothing of the sort. It's an alternative to gymnastics these days, to learn to dance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Imagine what will happen when the op finds a teen lesbian kiss in another Netflix dance show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,052 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Anyone who watches it, gets put on a watch list :D

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Seems a harmless trailer. I think the one photo added to the first post made it look like it was a more provocative form of dance, but it's nothing of the sort. It's an alternative to gymnastics these days, to learn to dance.

    Yes, gymnastics, that's were the real child abuse is. And yet still celebrated every 4 years at the Olympics and other various competitions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,231 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Gatling wrote: »
    Imagine what will happen when the op finds a teen lesbian kiss in another Netflix dance show
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    A few years ago In a previous life on boards I said that being a liberal progressive (due to the ever shifting notions of morality) means that you end up having to defend and endorse all manner of depravity and lunacy. I think I was right on that.

    Is it a documentary about how messed up it is like the expose on pageants?
    Any way, if you have issue, by all means have issue.
    However trying to make this a left/right thing makes a mockery of your argument. If you disagree take issue with Netflix or argue with someone who supports it. This blanket moral decline bull**** is the kind of crap had us under the yoke or religious orders for generations who ironically engaged in the mass generational abuse of children and covered it up.
    Take things on a case by case basis like most people do, in reality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    It's Parental Guidance rating is TV-MA, which is 18+ in our language. It is pure noncery.

    And it's fairly worrying many here seem to think this sort of stuff is acceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,901 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    A few years ago In a previous life on boards I said that being a liberal progressive (due to the ever shifting notions of morality) means that you end up having to defend and endorse all manner of depravity and lunacy. I think I was right on that.

    No you were definitely proved wrong on that one. It's an idiotic arguement that's wheel out all the time.
    If you don't think this is blatant sexualisation of children then I'm at a loss tbh.
    The movie is not about twerking. It's a French movie.

    Looks like the image is an doctored image. It's a scam. Have to wonder what OP was searching to find this though.
    Ironically they've now shared doctor images presenting in children in sexualised poses. I imagine fake child porn is also illegal. Probably being watched as we speak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Bowie wrote: »
    Is it a documentary about how messed up it is like the expose on pageants?
    Any way, if you have issue, by all means have issue.
    However trying to make this a left/right thing makes a mockery of your argument. If you disagree take issue with Netflix or argue with someone who supports it. This blanket moral decline bull**** is the kind of crap had us under the yoke or religious orders for generations who ironically engaged in the mass generational abuse of children and covered it up.
    Take things on a case by case basis like most people do, in reality.

    I would be of the opinion that we are under the yoke of a new type of religious order...the church of progressivism. A religion in all but name.
    And this 'religion' seems to be well on the road as regards viewing children as sexual objects.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Mellor wrote: »
    No you were definitely proved wrong on that one. It's an idiotic arguement that's wheel out all the time.


    The movie is not about twerking. It's a French movie.

    Looks like the image is an doctored image. It's a scam. Have to wonder what OP was searching to find this though.
    Ironically they've now shared doctor images presenting in children in sexualised poses. I imagine fake child porn is also illegal. Probably being watched as we speak.

    Can you post proof that the image was doctored?
    Because if you can't, it suggests by virtue of you saying it was doctored..that you find it problematic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Can someone post proof that the image was doctored and isn't an official Netflix image?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭thecomedian


    Mellor wrote: »
    No you were definitely proved wrong on that one. It's an idiotic arguement that's wheel out all the time.


    The movie is not about twerking. It's a French movie.

    Looks like the image is an doctored image. It's a scam. Have to wonder what OP was searching to find this though.
    Ironically they've now shared doctor images presenting in children in sexualised poses. I imagine fake child porn is also illegal. Probably being watched as we speak.

    That’s a bit of a jump in fairness.
    There’s a lot of complaints about it when you google it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,231 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    I would be of the opinion that we are under the yoke of a new type of religious order...the church of progressivism. A religion in all but name.
    And this 'religion' seems to be well on the road as regards viewing children as sexual objects.




    ..and what has this 'coming of age'/'clash of cultures' movie got to do with that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    And it's fairly worrying many here seem to think this sort of stuff is acceptable.
    Subconsciously they want society to lower the bar of acceptablity how they can find comfort with their own depravity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,231 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Anyone who watches it, gets put on a watch list :D




    If those watching the watchers watch, aren't they then watchers themselves?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Seems the same outrage was in a daily mirror article - enough said .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    seamus wrote: »
    The image in the OP is a fake created to make it appear like this is a pageant-style movie about dancing 11 year olds being sexy. It's not an image that Netflix has produced.

    The "specialising in twerking routines" is also made up nonsense that has little to do with the film.

    Look at the trailer and you'll see very little connection with the fake posters the OP has posted.

    This an award-winning French film about a preteens immigrants difficulty aligning her home culture and home life with that around her. Examinig the early sexualisation of children is a theme in this movie.

    Of course, American Nazi and religious types are losing their mind about it, while ignoring the fact that they are the biggest creators and consumers of actual child porn in the world.

    I can't believe someone posted this in defence of the movie and put in the phrase "Examining the early sexualisation of children is a theme in this movie"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I watched the trailer? Where's the twerking or even any sexualised moves?


    Ya sound a bit disappointed.
    Seems like either the OP clickbaited you or else youtube is collecting details of people who watch that video to pass them onto the cops as a list of possible paedos. Expect a knock on your front door




    By the way OP, good on you for alerting the public that this filth exists .... and also for copying and distributing some of same said photos to a wider audience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    JMNolan wrote: »
    I can't believe someone posted this in defence of the movie and put in the phrase "Examining the early sexualisation of children is a theme in this movie"

    I assume you find war films and horror films equally shocking? It's a film, films often explore difficult topics.


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