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Netflix sexualising children.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    seamus wrote: »
    The image in the OP is a fake created to make it appear like this is a pageant-style movie about dancing 11 year olds being sexy. It's not an image that Netflix has produced.

    The "specialising in twerking routines" is also made up nonsense that has little to do with the film.

    Look at the trailer and you'll see very little connection with the fake posters the OP has posted.

    This an award-winning French film about a preteens immigrants difficulty aligning her home culture and home life with that around her. Examinig the early sexualisation of children is a theme in this movie.

    Of course, American Nazi and religious types are losing their mind about it, while ignoring the fact that they are the biggest creators and consumers of actual child porn in the world.

    Wheres your proof that is was faked? The poster (which is the American version) has appeared on countless media outlets worldwide.
    So to be against paedophilic imagery is to be a Nazi now? Good to know


  • Registered Users Posts: 35,726 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Seems a harmless trailer. I think the one photo added to the first post made it look like it was a more provocative form of dance, but it's nothing of the sort. It's an alternative to gymnastics these days, to learn to dance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Imagine what will happen when the op finds a teen lesbian kiss in another Netflix dance show


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,224 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Anyone who watches it, gets put on a watch list :D

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,833 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Seems a harmless trailer. I think the one photo added to the first post made it look like it was a more provocative form of dance, but it's nothing of the sort. It's an alternative to gymnastics these days, to learn to dance.

    Yes, gymnastics, that's were the real child abuse is. And yet still celebrated every 4 years at the Olympics and other various competitions.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Gatling wrote: »
    Imagine what will happen when the op finds a teen lesbian kiss in another Netflix dance show
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    A few years ago In a previous life on boards I said that being a liberal progressive (due to the ever shifting notions of morality) means that you end up having to defend and endorse all manner of depravity and lunacy. I think I was right on that.

    Is it a documentary about how messed up it is like the expose on pageants?
    Any way, if you have issue, by all means have issue.
    However trying to make this a left/right thing makes a mockery of your argument. If you disagree take issue with Netflix or argue with someone who supports it. This blanket moral decline bull**** is the kind of crap had us under the yoke or religious orders for generations who ironically engaged in the mass generational abuse of children and covered it up.
    Take things on a case by case basis like most people do, in reality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    It's Parental Guidance rating is TV-MA, which is 18+ in our language. It is pure noncery.

    And it's fairly worrying many here seem to think this sort of stuff is acceptable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,083 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    A few years ago In a previous life on boards I said that being a liberal progressive (due to the ever shifting notions of morality) means that you end up having to defend and endorse all manner of depravity and lunacy. I think I was right on that.

    No you were definitely proved wrong on that one. It's an idiotic arguement that's wheel out all the time.
    If you don't think this is blatant sexualisation of children then I'm at a loss tbh.
    The movie is not about twerking. It's a French movie.

    Looks like the image is an doctored image. It's a scam. Have to wonder what OP was searching to find this though.
    Ironically they've now shared doctor images presenting in children in sexualised poses. I imagine fake child porn is also illegal. Probably being watched as we speak.


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Bowie wrote: »
    Is it a documentary about how messed up it is like the expose on pageants?
    Any way, if you have issue, by all means have issue.
    However trying to make this a left/right thing makes a mockery of your argument. If you disagree take issue with Netflix or argue with someone who supports it. This blanket moral decline bull**** is the kind of crap had us under the yoke or religious orders for generations who ironically engaged in the mass generational abuse of children and covered it up.
    Take things on a case by case basis like most people do, in reality.

    I would be of the opinion that we are under the yoke of a new type of religious order...the church of progressivism. A religion in all but name.
    And this 'religion' seems to be well on the road as regards viewing children as sexual objects.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Mellor wrote: »
    No you were definitely proved wrong on that one. It's an idiotic arguement that's wheel out all the time.


    The movie is not about twerking. It's a French movie.

    Looks like the image is an doctored image. It's a scam. Have to wonder what OP was searching to find this though.
    Ironically they've now shared doctor images presenting in children in sexualised poses. I imagine fake child porn is also illegal. Probably being watched as we speak.

    Can you post proof that the image was doctored?
    Because if you can't, it suggests by virtue of you saying it was doctored..that you find it problematic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,282 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Can someone post proof that the image was doctored and isn't an official Netflix image?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭thecomedian


    Mellor wrote: »
    No you were definitely proved wrong on that one. It's an idiotic arguement that's wheel out all the time.


    The movie is not about twerking. It's a French movie.

    Looks like the image is an doctored image. It's a scam. Have to wonder what OP was searching to find this though.
    Ironically they've now shared doctor images presenting in children in sexualised poses. I imagine fake child porn is also illegal. Probably being watched as we speak.

    That’s a bit of a jump in fairness.
    There’s a lot of complaints about it when you google it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    I would be of the opinion that we are under the yoke of a new type of religious order...the church of progressivism. A religion in all but name.
    And this 'religion' seems to be well on the road as regards viewing children as sexual objects.




    ..and what has this 'coming of age'/'clash of cultures' movie got to do with that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    And it's fairly worrying many here seem to think this sort of stuff is acceptable.
    Subconsciously they want society to lower the bar of acceptablity how they can find comfort with their own depravity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Anyone who watches it, gets put on a watch list :D




    If those watching the watchers watch, aren't they then watchers themselves?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Seems the same outrage was in a daily mirror article - enough said .


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    seamus wrote: »
    The image in the OP is a fake created to make it appear like this is a pageant-style movie about dancing 11 year olds being sexy. It's not an image that Netflix has produced.

    The "specialising in twerking routines" is also made up nonsense that has little to do with the film.

    Look at the trailer and you'll see very little connection with the fake posters the OP has posted.

    This an award-winning French film about a preteens immigrants difficulty aligning her home culture and home life with that around her. Examinig the early sexualisation of children is a theme in this movie.

    Of course, American Nazi and religious types are losing their mind about it, while ignoring the fact that they are the biggest creators and consumers of actual child porn in the world.

    I can't believe someone posted this in defence of the movie and put in the phrase "Examining the early sexualisation of children is a theme in this movie"


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,114 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I watched the trailer? Where's the twerking or even any sexualised moves?


    Ya sound a bit disappointed.
    Seems like either the OP clickbaited you or else youtube is collecting details of people who watch that video to pass them onto the cops as a list of possible paedos. Expect a knock on your front door




    By the way OP, good on you for alerting the public that this filth exists .... and also for copying and distributing some of same said photos to a wider audience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    JMNolan wrote: »
    I can't believe someone posted this in defence of the movie and put in the phrase "Examining the early sexualisation of children is a theme in this movie"

    I assume you find war films and horror films equally shocking? It's a film, films often explore difficult topics.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    https://www.cineuropa.org/en/interview/390968 interview with the director is worth a read.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    So to be against paedophilic imagery is to be a Nazi now? Good to know

    The American far right Qanon stance is that if you're not railing at every moment against cannibalistic paedophiles then you're complicit. Which is just as ridiculous as, but very similar to, your inference above.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    hots wrote: »
    https://www.cineuropa.org/en/interview/390968 interview with the director is worth a read.
    +1. She's actually examining and pointing to the very issues that the OP brings up, the sexualisation of children, the social media impact on them etc.

    During my research, I saw that all these young girls I’d met were very exposed on social media. And with new social codes, the ways of presenting yourself change. I saw that some very young girls were followed by 400,000 people on social media and I tried to understand why. There were no particular reasons, besides the fact that they had posted sexy or at least revealing pictures: that is what had brought them this “fame.” Today, the sexier and the more objectified a woman is, the more value she has in the eyes of social media. And when you’re 11, you don’t really understand all these mechanisms, but you tend to mimic, to do the same thing as others in order to get a similar result. I think it is urgent that we talk about it, that a debate be had on the subject.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Penn wrote: »
    Can someone post proof that the image was doctored and isn't an official Netflix image?

    Yeah waiting on that too


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,083 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Can you post proof that the image was doctored?
    Because if you can't, it suggests by virtue of you saying it was doctored..that you find it problematic.

    I don't really have any interest in googling images of child sexualisation.
    Whether real-life, fictional, or GGI. I'm sure you understand.

    Can you point to any source for where the picture came from?
    That’s a bit of a jump in fairness.
    There’s a lot of complaints about it when you google it.

    I'm not suggesting the movie isn't real, and a controversial subject matter that will gather complaints.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9196192/?ref_=ttmi_tt


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    How did I know that certain posters would frame reaction to this as a left/right thing? Is there anything that can't be spun that way nowadays? :rolleyes:

    Saw about this on twitter earlier and thought it was absolutely gross. Perhaps I've been misled though. Will wait for someone to post some evidence one way or the other before ultimately making judgement, I don't really want to look for myself in case it's something I really really don't want to see.
    seamus wrote: »
    Of course, American Nazi and religious types are losing their mind about it, while ignoring the fact that they are the biggest creators and consumers of actual child porn in the world.

    Not suggesting that you're wrong, but do you have a citation for that? Haven't heard of that before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,282 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah waiting on that too

    In fairness, from some of the other things which have been posted including the interview with the director and the general response from people who've watched it, it does seem largely innocent enough, and a critique of the social pressures, influences and downright misunderstandings of children of that age which can lead to these things. However if the poster in the OP is a genuine Netflix poster then it seems Netflix went out of their way to be as provocative and sensationalist in their advertising for it.

    It looks horribly photoshopped regardless, but I'd just like to see the evidence that it was something someone else created and not a genuine Netflix poster.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    +1


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Wasn't there outrage about this months ago, like before Covid...

    Ah, a simpler time


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    +1

    Apparently it's the US release poster.

    The original french poster is nothing like it


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