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The Center Parcs Experience

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    #392
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    beggars_bush wrote: »
    Centre Parcs is nowhere near longford town. In fact 23 mins away by car

    Finglas is the same time driving from Dundrum

    Well aware of where Ballymahon is. Just that foreign tourists coming to a new multi million tourist attraction in a small rural Irish county are hardly expecting to run into Armed Support Units on the approaches into said county town.


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    #393
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users Posts: 4,343 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Well aware of where Ballymahon is. Just that foreign tourists coming to a new multi million tourist attraction in a small rural Irish county are hardly expecting to run into Armed Support Units on the approaches into said county town.

    Longford and Granard units

    They won't be anywhere near Ballymahon


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    #394
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Longford with Armed Support Units in battle dress welcoming all those foreign tourists into Centre Parcs Longford.

    Probably safer in East Belfast on the 12th than in that place.

    With the greatest of respect...


    what are you on about???


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    #395
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    beggars_bush wrote: »
    Longford and Granard units

    They won't be anywhere near Ballymahon[/quote

    Its hardly got the land mass of Texas. And unless those tourists are going to be choppered in I reckon they'll quite easily come across them.
    Btw, I welcome this heavy handed approach and I hope AGS nail them.


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    #396
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users Posts: 13,009 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Could be worse..
    The tourists might stop off in the local pub for a trad session and pints of Guinness and be faced with scantily clad young wans comparing their fánny flutters and pestering them for the shift.

    To thine own self be true



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    #397
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Graham wrote: »
    With the greatest of respect...


    what are you on about???
    Traveler families fighting In Longford. They had to bring in gardai armed units.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2019/0619/1056239-longford-armed-patrols/

    I don't know Longford well so I don't know which roads are they on but I suspect this nonsense isn't great news.


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    #398
    rossie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 11,341 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Fann Linn wrote: »

    Its hardly got the land mass of Texas. And unless those tourists are going to be choppered in I reckon they'll quite easily come across them.
    Btw, I welcome this heavy handed approach and I hope AGS nail them.

    Athlone is closest big town to Ballymahon, also more tourist centre than Longford with some big hotels which Longford doesn't really have.


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    #399
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Can't the feuding in Longford be marketed as a package for people interested in Warzone holidays? There seems to be a growing interest in it and perhaps this crowd http://www.hinterlandtravel.com/ could be added to the Center Parcs package?

    ****



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    #400
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    Bad news for those who are hoping this will fail.

    Center parcs have reported that they have taken over 5,000 bookings and now expect that year round occupancy rate in longford will be over 90%


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    #401
    willowthewisp
    Registered Users Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭willowthewisp


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Athlone is closest big town to Ballymahon, also more tourist centre than Longford with some big hotels which Longford doesn't really have.

    Actually it’s equidistant!
    In the middle, in the midlands!


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    #402
    liam7831
    Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭liam7831


    Darc19 wrote: »
    Bad news for those who are hoping this will fail.

    Center parcs have reported that they have taken over 5,000 bookings and now expect that year round occupancy rate in longford will be over 90%

    Any link ?


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    #403
    The Rapture
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 ✭The Rapture


    Why would anyone want this to fail ?

    Don't get that position.


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    #404
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    liam7831 wrote: »
    Any link ?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/alcohol-licensing-rules-updated-for-center-parcs-development-1.3933622


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    #405
    liam7831
    Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭liam7831


    Darc19 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/alcohol-licensing-rules-updated-for-center-parcs-development-1.3933622

    Great news


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    #406
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    The Rapture wrote: »
    Why would anyone want this to fail ?

    Don't get that position.

    A certain element hate anyone or any business to be successful and become gleeful when something fails.


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    #407
    Cazale
    Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Cazale


    meeeeh wrote:
    Traveler families fighting In Longford. They had to bring in gardai armed units.


    Euro Disney of course closed down after the Paris attacks.


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    #408
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Darc19 wrote: »
    Bad news for those who are hoping this will fail.

    Center parcs have reported that they have taken over 5,000 bookings and now expect that year round occupancy rate in longford will be over 90%

    That's in line with the UK operations, I understand they typically run at 96% / 97% occupancy.


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    #409
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    5000 bookings isn't that much when you have 500 lodges


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    #410
    The Rapture
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 ✭The Rapture


    Dynamic pricing will ensure they are always busy.


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    #411
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    I'm surprised they still haven't managed to fill all the minimum wage jobs. Last report by RTE there was still over 15 per cent vacancies.


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    #412
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I'm surprised they still haven't managed to fill all the minimum wage jobs. Last report by RTE there was still over 15 per cent vacancies.

    Why are you surprised - according to the politicians and media we have full employment. Why would people give up well paid jobs to work for minimum wages in Longford?

    ****



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    #413
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Del.Monte wrote:
    Why are you surprised - according to the politicians and media we have full employment. Why would people give up well paid jobs to work for minimum wages in Longford?


    Reason I say this as I'm very familiar with Longford and the surrounding areas, it's not exactly a hotbed of employment.


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    #414
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Reason I say this as I'm very familiar with Longford and the surrounding areas, it's not exactly a hotbed of employment.

    I know a couple of people employed there, and the pay and perks are as good, and in some cases better than many 4 star hotels. Pension, medical, dental, staff discounts, etc.

    Plus the fact that they don't open to the public for another month means that staffing requirements are urgent yet.

    If I was still in the hospitality game, I'd be seriously considering it.


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    #415
    vargoo
    Registered Users Posts: 737 ✭✭✭vargoo


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Reason I say this as I'm very familiar with Longford and the surrounding areas, it's not exactly a hotbed of employment.
    unless they force people, they've alot of 30 hour contracts spread over 5 days/unpaid breaks/pretty bad work conditions going by reviews of english set up.

    Better off on dole.


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    #416
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Sofiztikated wrote:
    I know a couple of people employed there, and the pay and perks are as good, and in some cases better than many 4 star hotels. Pension, medical, dental, staff discounts, etc.

    The people you know are in senior positions.


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    #417
    vargoo
    Registered Users Posts: 737 ✭✭✭vargoo


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    I know a couple of people employed there, and the pay and perks are as good, and in some cases better than many 4 star hotels. Pension, medical, dental, staff discounts, etc.

    Plus the fact that they don't open to the public for another month means that staffing requirements are urgent yet.

    If I was still in the hospitality game, I'd be seriously considering it.
    It's minimum wage....actually even every managerial position advertised, EVERY SINGLE ONE paid less than equivalents, the health and safety position was 15 grand less than 2 similar roles advertised at the same time.

    Pension is after a year (I think) and then you probably have to stay there for at least another 2 to benefit from it so 3 years there at least.

    Never saw medical/dental in any of the ads.

    Free use of the facility is dependent on if they couldn't sell all the slots, possible you'll never get to use it.

    Discounts is probably only one there, as long as their prices aren't higher than buying similar elsewhere.....they probably will be.


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    #418
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    vargoo wrote: »
    unless they force people, they've alot of 30 hour contracts spread over 5 days/unpaid breaks/pretty bad work conditions going by reviews of english set up.

    Better off on dole.

    As a hospitality employee in Ireland, you are entitled to 15 minutes break after 4 hours, 30 minutes break after 6 hours 30 minutes (which may or may not include the initial 30 minutes, 11 hours rest in a 24 hr period, and 20 days holidays (plus 9 bank holidays or days in leiu) if you are full time, or 8% of hours worked if you are part time.

    No way around that.


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    #419
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Sofiztikated wrote:
    As a hospitality employee in Ireland, you are entitled to 15 minutes break after 4 hours, 30 minutes break after 6 hours 30 minutes (which may or may not include the initial 30 minutes, 11 hours rest in a 24 hr period, and 20 days holidays (plus 9 bank holidays or days in leiu) if you are full time, or 8% of hours worked if you are part time.

    The above applies to all employment.
    Sofiztikated wrote:
    No way around that.

    You claim to have worked in hospitality...mmmm. I worked in hotels for years and I can tell you your claim of 'no way around that'is rubbish. I along with many others regularly worked in excess of legal break times and often shifts were only 8 hours apart .


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    #420
    Osborne
    Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭Osborne


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    No way around that.


    https://employmentrightsireland.com/working-time-and-minimum-rest-periods-in-irish-employment/

    Point (x) under the exceptions bit.

    Edit: Sorry, I probably should have added context. In relation to your point about hours between shifts, many hospitality workers would be required to do 'late/earlies', i.e. finish at 23:00 and back in for 07:00 (approximately). Mostly front desk operatives in hotels.


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    #421
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I'm surprised they still haven't managed to fill all the minimum wage jobs. Last report by RTE there was still over 15 per cent vacancies.

    It is perhaps unsurprising you missed other parts of the report.


    "We have been blown away by the response from the public," General Manager of the new Center Parcs Longford Forest resort.....

    "the company has not experienced any difficulty in recruiting".....


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