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Off licence closing times - should they be restricted from selling past 10pm?

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    #152
    goose2005
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    CelticRambler wrote: »
    The litres-a-head figures might be the same, but most of the time, the Irish cram all that into one weekend ... or one evening.

    I would also argue that any kind of data collection on this topic is going to be seriously skewed. There are (literally) hundreds of warehouses in France that sell wine exclusively to the Irish and English. Is that being counted as "recorded consumption" for the French? Similarly, when you've got gangs of students and hen/stag parties going to places like Spain, is that all being counted as Spanish consumption?

    Yes, exports are brought into account. Anyway, you'd also have to account for France's large Muslim population, who drink almost nothing, and so French kafirs are even worse then


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    #153
    goose2005
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    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Yes. Just as pints drunk at Guinness storehouse... our number one tourist attraction - count here. The figures have an inherent unreliability.
    And home grown wine isnt going to count in French sales... big thing over there.

    I dont think overall consumption gives full picture of who is drinking what except is it trending up or down.

    The chart takes into account unrecorded consumption
    Unrecorded consumption (homebrew, moonshine, smuggled alcohol, surrogate alcohol etc.) was calculated using empirical investigations and expert judgments.


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    #154
    meeeeh
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    It's different way of drinking. You can have a glass of wine with your food and it won't be considered overly harmful or according to some studies even healthy. Or you can drown that amount once per week and your liver will have a little cry for itself.

    That being said I come from one of those countries which don't binge as much but drink daily and there are plenty of alcohol related issues and not a healthy attitude to alcohol at all.


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    #155
    odyssey06
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    goose2005 wrote: »
    The chart takes into account unrecorded consumption... Unrecorded consumption (homebrew, moonshine, smuggled alcohol, surrogate alcohol etc.) was calculated using empirical investigations and expert judgments.

    The figures for unrecorded consumption are dubious at best.
    Expert judgments? Hilarious. I think the person who wrote that wikipedia page had had a few.
    The unrecorded consumption for France is 0.4, which is almost the same as Ireland. One of the lowest on the list. Given the amount of home made wine in France it's absolute fantasy figures.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #156
    decky1
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    OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »
    Should be 24hr in this day and age and let grown adults make their choices.

    It's the nanny state we live in, we won't let you drink, you can't smoke, you have to have a tv licence, rules rules every where you turn,but then the Irish just lie down and take it, i admire the French if they disagree with something they protest big time, it's a pity we could not follow their example.:mad:


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    #157
    SaltSweatSugar
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    decky1 wrote: »
    It's the nanny state we live in, we won't let you drink, you can't smoke, you have to have a tv licence, rules rules every where you turn,but then the Irish just lie down and take it, i admire the French if they disagree with something they protest big time, it's a pity we could not follow their example.:mad:

    Over exaggerating weakens your argument. You can drink in this country all you want, you just can’t buy alcohol in shops after/before a certain time. (Which I don’t agree with, btw). You can smoke at home and outdoors all you want, just not indoors. Hardly oppressive.


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    #158
    YFlyer
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    What time can supermarkets start selling alcohol today? Want to get the shopping done.


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    #159
    BENDYBINN
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    YFlyer wrote: »
    What time can supermarkets start selling alcohol today? Want to get the shopping done.

    You’ve got to laugh......underwear and socks are considered non essential and can’t be sold in supermarket but beer and wine are classed as essential and can be sold.......answer that Leo ....


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    #160
    YFlyer
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    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    You’ve got to laugh......underwear and socks are considered non essential and can’t be sold in supermarket but beer and wine are classed as essential and can be sold.......answer that Leo ....

    I'll be doing the food shopping and be looking for a bottle of red for lunch. Considering I'm off work today.

    Something to calm my nerves for the Spurs match later as well.


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    #161
    odyssey06
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    YFlyer wrote: »
    What time can supermarkets start selling alcohol today? Want to get the shopping done.

    Should be 1030, but some shops have bank holiday mondays keyed in on their tills as Sundays - incorrectly.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #162
    BENDYBINN
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    YFlyer wrote: »
    I'll be doing the food shopping and be looking for a bottle of red for lunch. Considering I'm off work today.

    Something to calm my nerves for the Spurs match later as well.

    Medicinal.......


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    #163
    corner of hells
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    spook_cook wrote: »
    To be fair, if alcohol was taken from sale, the hospitals would be crammed with people going through withdrawal. It'd be far worse than covid has managed.

    I do agree with your sentiment though that clothes etc should be available for sale.

    Not at all theres plenty of cheap hand sanitiser going around , granted ,it'll rip the guts out of you .


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    #164
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Medicinal.......

    Ferminated grapes.


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    #165
    YFlyer
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    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Should be 1030, but some shops have bank holiday mondays keyed in on their tills as Sundays - incorrectly.

    Thanks. I'll wait for another half hour to head off. Just to be sure. Want to keep my time in the store to a minimum.


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    #166
    Eleven Benevolent Elephants
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    The 10 pm rule is ridiculous.

    I stopped drinking, but I can't even buy a non alcoholic beer before 12:30 on a Sunday or after 10 at night, as under Irish law a bottle of absinthe is classed the same as a can containing <0.001% ABV or even a "beer" brewed with no yeast containing 0.000000000% alcohol.


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    #167
    TheDavester
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    you wouldnt begrudge people who work there a rare lie in or have a decent finishing time so they can go out/have some sort of a night- when people whine at the 10pm time, how hard is it to plan and get drink earlier in the day/on a break/before their shift...

    Worked both times in an offy when it was 11.30 closing and then 10 closing in a busy location and the shop would die a death from 10/10.30ish, with the exception of the emergency of running out of ciggs


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