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Stabbing at Reading

  • 20-06-2020 9:25pm
    #1
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭


    3 dead apparently. There was a BLM protest earlier. Maybe connected. Some talk of terrorist motive.


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  • #2
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Three White people to be precise.

    Mod - video removed


  • #3
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,766 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Hard to know what conclusions to jump to these days...


  • #4
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,675 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Police doing CPR on at least 3 people in the videos. Surely a few deaths. Shocking.


  • #5
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,314 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Hard to know what conclusions to jump to these days...
    Maybe don't bother jumping then?
    I am sure the details and motives will come out soon enough


  • #6
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    5 hours after the protest ended. yeah must be BLM.........................





    and seriously, a video of people bleeding all over the place while receiving CPR , is this how far the forum is sinking that its still there after 20 mins (or that someone thought it was something that should be posted in the first place)?


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  • #7
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,394 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Whoever took that video is a muppet. Honestly, what kind of person whips out their phone in a scenario like that. It can't speak English either. #Wasteman


    Situations like as this make things such as Black lives matter and all of the ill will attached to it, mean absolutely nothing.


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hopefully,no irish caught up in it


  • #9
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,652 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    https://twitter.com/AuroraIntel/status/1274444944690855937?s=19


  • #10
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    5 hours after the protest ended. yeah must be BLM.........................





    and seriously, a video of people bleeding all over the place while receiving CPR , is this how far the forum is sinking that its still there after 20 mins (or that someone thought it was something that should be posted in the first place)?

    Just what were you expecting to see when you pressed the play button?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #11
    rapul
    Registered Users Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭rapul


    Yeah seriously who records this like, **** sake though never a dull day


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  • #12
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    5 hours after the protest ended. yeah must be BLM.........................

    Sky |News reported it as linked initially. now saying a man arrested and more likely a radical islam


  • #13
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Just what were you expecting to see when you pressed the play button?

    Generally, not a video of someone having been stabbed, lying in a pool of their own blood while receiving CPR.

    and I didnt click play, I came across the video on twitter before the thread popped up. I stopped it shortly after it started there.


  • #14
    glenfieldman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    5 hours after the protest ended. yeah must be BLM.........................





    and seriously, a video of people bleeding all over the place while receiving CPR , is this how far the forum is sinking that its still there after 20 mins (or that someone thought it was something that should be posted in the first place)?

    Like those ****ing muppets that videoed the horrific aftermath of the Nice and Barcelona tragedy.
    I know there was a lot more, but those two really pissed me off


  • #15
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭harr


    rapul wrote: »
    Yeah seriously who records this like, **** sake though never a dull day

    Might seem like a ****ty thing to do and yes he probably did it for likes or what ever but in a lot these investigations the police will use video and photos taken by the public so they can be beneficial and more reliable than eye witness accounts.


  • #16
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    glenfieldman wrote: »
    Like those ****ing muppets that videoed the horrific aftermath of the Nice and Barcelona tragedy.
    I know there was a lot more, but those two really pissed me off

    What about the person who videoed the Killing of George Floyd? Do you feel that person should never have recorded it?


  • #17
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,675 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    What about the person who videoed the Killing of George Floyd? Do you feel that person should never have recorded it?
    There's a difference between videoing an arrest in progress vs videoing a couple of people bleeding out on the floor.


  • #18
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Generally, not a video of someone having been stabbed, lying in a pool of their own blood while receiving CPR.

    and I didnt click play, I came across the video on twitter before the thread popped up. I stopped it shortly after it started there.

    In a thread that is titled Stabbing at Reading, the opening post says 3 people reportedly dead, the second post has a video and you don't expect it to be of a stabbing incident in Reading?

    Even after you've seen a video of a stabbing incident in Reading minutes earlier on Twitter?

    What were you expecting a music festival?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #19
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,652 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    It's important to film incidents like this to help the investigation, but not to be instantly shared.

    One in custody.


  • #20
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    There's a difference between videoing an arrest in progress vs videoing a couple of people bleeding out on the floor.

    He was being killed, anyone who watched or shared the video (which was watched hundreds of millions of times) knew the circumstances. And yet no one was calling for that video to be removed from Twitter, Facebook etc
    Funny that...


  • #21
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,675 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    He was being killed, anyone who watched or shared the video (which was watched hundreds of millions of times) knew the circumstances. And yet no one was calling for that video to be removed from Twitter, Facebook etc
    Funny that...
    You cannot compare an incident involving the police and people bleeding out.


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  • #22
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    You cannot compare an incident involving the police and people bleeding out.

    No comparison with footage of a man being killed? Struggling and drawing his last breaths on camera?


  • #23
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    In a thread that is titled Stabbing at Reading, the opening post says 3 people reportedly dead, the second post has a video and you don't expect it to be of a stabbing incident in Reading?

    Even after you've seen a video of a stabbing incident in Reading minutes earlier on Twitter?

    What were you expecting a music festival?

    Nice pivot.

    First its "what were you expecting when you pressed play"

    Now its "what were you expecting when you opened the thread"

    Threads discussing pedophiles dont have videos of people being pedophiles in them.

    Its not even a video of a suspect, its the aftermath and someone is dying. Everyone knows what people getting stabbed is. A video of them dying isnt required.


  • #24
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    He was being killed, anyone who watched or shared the video (which was watched hundreds of millions of times) knew the circumstances. And yet no one was calling for that video to be removed from Twitter, Facebook etc
    Funny that...


    That video is evidence of the police killing him. Without it the guys that did it would have chalked it down to "suspect resisted and we did all we could to treat him right but shucks, what can we do, ah well, a dead criminal".


  • #25
    [Deleted User]
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    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    What about the person who videoed the Killing of George Floyd? Do you feel that person should never have recorded it?

    Tbh i dont,
    I know it finally tipped the yanks into anarchy....but its terrible to watch someone being killed and crying out for help



    Even worse to see groups of people,stand about and do nothing to help that man


  • #26
    glenfieldman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    What about the person who videoed the Killing of George Floyd? Do you feel that person should never have recorded it?

    There was no way the person videoing that incedent could have predicted that awful outcome
    But some prick zooming in on clearly dead people including childern is a hell of a difference.
    yes i agree, it was a good idea to record Mr Floyds arrest purely for evidance, but please dont compare apples with oranges.


  • #27
    glenfieldman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    He was being killed, anyone who watched or shared the video (which was watched hundreds of millions of times) knew the circumstances. And yet no one was calling for that video to be removed from Twitter, Facebook etc
    Funny that...

    Nobody knew the circumstances of Mr Floyd
    And secondly, I never asked for the video to be removed from anywhere
    Stop being an angry troll and try and connect this thread into a race issue


  • #28
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Nice pivot.

    First its "what were you expecting when you pressed play"

    Now its "what were you expecting when you opened the thread"

    Threads discussing pedophiles dont have videos of people being pedophiles in them.

    Its not even a video of a suspect, its the aftermath and someone is dying. Everyone knows what people getting stabbed is. A video of them dying isnt required.

    Guy, you're obviously very experienced in this whole internet arguing scene.

    I'm not interested in it to be honest but I'll continue to call out faux outrage when I see bluffers like yourself engaging in it.

    Have a wonderful evening.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #29
    john locke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 ✭john locke


    sky news reporting it as a terror incident


  • #30
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Guy, you're obviously very experienced in this whole internet arguing scene.

    I'm not interested in it to be honest but I'll continue to call out faux outrage when I see bluffers like yourself engaging in it.

    Have a wonderful evening.

    Faux outrage my hole. A video of someone dying having been stabbed adds nothing and is not something that is routinely on threads.


    and youre right, I am experienced at it, which is why I make sure to call out bull**** like changing your stance once I tell you I didn't click on it and ignoring any other points when you answer but just fill your reply with rubbish.


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  • #31
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    glenfieldman wrote: »
    There was no way the person videoing that incedent could have predicted that awful outcome
    But some prick zooming in on clearly dead people including childern is a hell of a difference.
    yes i agree, it was a good idea to record Mr Floyds arrest purely for evidance, but please dont compare apples with oranges.

    My point is, when the videos shared online serve one agenda, its fine to share them.
    When they go against the narrative..its not ok.


  • #32
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    glenfieldman wrote: »
    Nobody knew the circumstances of Mr Floyd
    And secondly, I never asked for the video to be removed from anywhere
    Stop being an angry troll and try and connect this thread into a race issue

    The videos are being removed from social media, as for connecting it to a race issue, it seems perfectly acceptable to do that in certain situations doesn't it?


  • #33
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,675 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Police treating it as terror-related.


  • #34
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    My point is, when the videos shared online serve one agenda, its fine to share them.
    When they go against the narrative..its not ok.

    The fact that you see no difference says a lot about you but fits in well with your agenda when posting in the forum.


    A video of someone dying in a pool of their own blood while someone is trying to keep them alive serves no purpose in a discussion. A video of a perpetrator might have, but the aftermath isnt.


    The person being convicted of this isnt going to be dependent on it having been filmed and shared. Its not even remotely similar.


  • #35
    ronivek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭ronivek


    Awful stuff.

    And people here acting as if it’s not completely standard across almost every platform, site, and publication to remove images or videos of seriously injured people being treated on scene after any kind of incident. Especially if there may be obvious gore or depiction of death.

    Whether that should or should not be the case is irrelevant; it is absolutely normal and widespread.


  • #36
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Why cant we all just get along!?


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  • #37
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    begbysback wrote: »
    Why cant we all just get along!?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9BNoNFKCBI

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #38
    sid waddell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭sid waddell


    begbysback wrote: »
    Why cant we all just get along!?
    Insane far right ideology


  • #39
    splashuum
    Registered Users Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    Sky news have confirmed the attack is terror related. https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/1274456170388951040?s=21


  • #40
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    The fact that you see no difference says a lot about you but fits in well with your agenda when posting in the forum.


    A video of someone dying in a pool of their own blood while someone is trying to keep them alive serves no purpose in a discussion. A video of a perpetrator might have, but the aftermath isnt.


    The person being convicted of this isnt going to be dependent on it having been filmed and shared. Its not even remotely similar.

    It is of course similar, except the Reading videos possibly counter the narrative to which you subscribe. Thats it really.


  • #41
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    a Libyan man arrested


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  • #42
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    It is of course similar, except the Reading videos possibly counter the narrative to which you subscribe. Thats it really.
    Bull****.

    What is gained by watching someone bleed to death while receiving CPR?

    Its not the perpetrator, its just a victim , afterwards, dying.

    and, I suspect, you wont behaving a look for the victims past to see have they a criminal record to comment on in this thread I reckon..................


  • #43
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    begbysback wrote: »
    Why cant we all just get along!?

    cos trolls.


  • #44
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9BNoNFKCBI

    Getting emotional watching that - see people, no need for the hate, back in the day we used to sort everything out with a song


  • #45
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Islamic activist arrested.


  • #46
    bloodless_coup
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    Happy4all wrote: »
    a Libyan man arrested

    African Muslim, probably not black though.


  • #47
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    The fact that you see no difference says a lot about you but fits in well with your agenda when posting in the forum.


    A video of someone dying in a pool of their own blood while someone is trying to keep them alive serves no purpose in a discussion. A video of a perpetrator might have, but the aftermath isnt.


    The person being convicted of this isnt going to be dependent on it having been filmed and shared. Its not even remotely similar.

    We expect terrorists whatever their particular brand to kill people. That is what they.

    We don't expect the police to kill people.

    That is the difference.

    People know that. This truth and motive of this will come out police are already saying terror related.


  • #48
    bloodless_coup
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    Let me be the first to declare that the suspect was suffering from mental health problems.


  • #49
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Meth Brain wrote: »
    So it's Islam v BLM?

    Oh **** boys, this just got interesting!
    What better way to hit the kids of the ruling class than at such a meeting.


  • #50
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Meth Brain wrote: »
    You can always just not watch the scary bad videos.

    You can always rely on someone "brand new" finding boards just in time for threads like this...........


  • #51
    Ray Donovan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    bloodless_coup wrote: »
    Let me be the first to declare that the suspect was suffering from mental health problems.

    Surely that'll be the official line before midnight!!

    As an aside do we really think this isn't going to happen in Ireland at some stage?


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