Stabbing at Reading

Happy4all

3 dead apparently. There was a BLM protest earlier. Maybe connected. Some talk of terrorist motive.

Clarence Boddiker

Three White people to be precise.

Mod - video removed

Quantum Erasure

Hard to know what conclusions to jump to these days...

ACitizenErased

Police doing CPR on at least 3 people in the videos. Surely a few deaths. Shocking.

gmisk

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Hard to know what conclusions to jump to these days...

Maybe don't bother jumping then?
I am sure the details and motives will come out soon enough

Guy:Incognito

5 hours after the protest ended. yeah must be BLM.........................





and seriously, a video of people bleeding all over the place while receiving CPR , is this how far the forum is sinking that its still there after 20 mins (or that someone thought it was something that should be posted in the first place)?

1800_Ladladlad

Whoever took that video is a muppet. Honestly, what kind of person whips out their phone in a scenario like that. It can't speak English either. #Wasteman


Situations like as this make things such as Black lives matter and all of the ill will attached to it, mean absolutely nothing.

Hopefully,no irish caught up in it

igCorcaigh

https://twitter.com/AuroraIntel/status/1274444944690855937?s=19

Rows Grower

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

5 hours after the protest ended. yeah must be BLM.........................





and seriously, a video of people bleeding all over the place while receiving CPR , is this how far the forum is sinking that its still there after 20 mins (or that someone thought it was something that should be posted in the first place)?

Just what were you expecting to see when you pressed the play button?

rapul

Yeah seriously who records this like, **** sake though never a dull day

Happy4all

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

5 hours after the protest ended. yeah must be BLM.........................

Sky |News reported it as linked initially. now saying a man arrested and more likely a radical islam

Guy:Incognito

Rows Grower wrote: »

Just what were you expecting to see when you pressed the play button?

Generally, not a video of someone having been stabbed, lying in a pool of their own blood while receiving CPR.

and I didnt click play, I came across the video on twitter before the thread popped up. I stopped it shortly after it started there.

glenfieldman

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

5 hours after the protest ended. yeah must be BLM.........................





and seriously, a video of people bleeding all over the place while receiving CPR , is this how far the forum is sinking that its still there after 20 mins (or that someone thought it was something that should be posted in the first place)?

Like those ****ing muppets that videoed the horrific aftermath of the Nice and Barcelona tragedy.
I know there was a lot more, but those two really pissed me off

harr

rapul wrote: »

Yeah seriously who records this like, **** sake though never a dull day

Might seem like a ****ty thing to do and yes he probably did it for likes or what ever but in a lot these investigations the police will use video and photos taken by the public so they can be beneficial and more reliable than eye witness accounts.

Clarence Boddiker

glenfieldman wrote: »

Like those ****ing muppets that videoed the horrific aftermath of the Nice and Barcelona tragedy.
I know there was a lot more, but those two really pissed me off

What about the person who videoed the Killing of George Floyd? Do you feel that person should never have recorded it?

ACitizenErased

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

What about the person who videoed the Killing of George Floyd? Do you feel that person should never have recorded it?

There's a difference between videoing an arrest in progress vs videoing a couple of people bleeding out on the floor.

Rows Grower

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Generally, not a video of someone having been stabbed, lying in a pool of their own blood while receiving CPR.

and I didnt click play, I came across the video on twitter before the thread popped up. I stopped it shortly after it started there.

In a thread that is titled Stabbing at Reading, the opening post says 3 people reportedly dead, the second post has a video and you don't expect it to be of a stabbing incident in Reading?

Even after you've seen a video of a stabbing incident in Reading minutes earlier on Twitter?

What were you expecting a music festival?

igCorcaigh

It's important to film incidents like this to help the investigation, but not to be instantly shared.

One in custody.

Clarence Boddiker

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There's a difference between videoing an arrest in progress vs videoing a couple of people bleeding out on the floor.

He was being killed, anyone who watched or shared the video (which was watched hundreds of millions of times) knew the circumstances. And yet no one was calling for that video to be removed from Twitter, Facebook etc
Funny that...

ACitizenErased

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

He was being killed, anyone who watched or shared the video (which was watched hundreds of millions of times) knew the circumstances. And yet no one was calling for that video to be removed from Twitter, Facebook etc
Funny that...

You cannot compare an incident involving the police and people bleeding out.

Clarence Boddiker

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You cannot compare an incident involving the police and people bleeding out.

No comparison with footage of a man being killed? Struggling and drawing his last breaths on camera?

Guy:Incognito

Rows Grower wrote: »

In a thread that is titled Stabbing at Reading, the opening post says 3 people reportedly dead, the second post has a video and you don't expect it to be of a stabbing incident in Reading?

Even after you've seen a video of a stabbing incident in Reading minutes earlier on Twitter?

What were you expecting a music festival?

Nice pivot.

First its "what were you expecting when you pressed play"

Now its "what were you expecting when you opened the thread"

Threads discussing pedophiles dont have videos of people being pedophiles in them.

Its not even a video of a suspect, its the aftermath and someone is dying. Everyone knows what people getting stabbed is. A video of them dying isnt required.

Guy:Incognito

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

He was being killed, anyone who watched or shared the video (which was watched hundreds of millions of times) knew the circumstances. And yet no one was calling for that video to be removed from Twitter, Facebook etc
Funny that...

That video is evidence of the police killing him. Without it the guys that did it would have chalked it down to "suspect resisted and we did all we could to treat him right but shucks, what can we do, ah well, a dead criminal".

Clarence Boddiker

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

What about the person who videoed the Killing of George Floyd? Do you feel that person should never have recorded it?

Tbh i dont,
I know it finally tipped the yanks into anarchy....but its terrible to watch someone being killed and crying out for help



Even worse to see groups of people,stand about and do nothing to help that man

glenfieldman

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

What about the person who videoed the Killing of George Floyd? Do you feel that person should never have recorded it?

There was no way the person videoing that incedent could have predicted that awful outcome
But some prick zooming in on clearly dead people including childern is a hell of a difference.
yes i agree, it was a good idea to record Mr Floyds arrest purely for evidance, but please dont compare apples with oranges.

glenfieldman

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

He was being killed, anyone who watched or shared the video (which was watched hundreds of millions of times) knew the circumstances. And yet no one was calling for that video to be removed from Twitter, Facebook etc
Funny that...

Nobody knew the circumstances of Mr Floyd
And secondly, I never asked for the video to be removed from anywhere
Stop being an angry troll and try and connect this thread into a race issue

Rows Grower

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Nice pivot.

First its "what were you expecting when you pressed play"

Now its "what were you expecting when you opened the thread"

Threads discussing pedophiles dont have videos of people being pedophiles in them.

Its not even a video of a suspect, its the aftermath and someone is dying. Everyone knows what people getting stabbed is. A video of them dying isnt required.

Guy, you're obviously very experienced in this whole internet arguing scene.

I'm not interested in it to be honest but I'll continue to call out faux outrage when I see bluffers like yourself engaging in it.

Have a wonderful evening.

john locke

sky news reporting it as a terror incident

Guy:Incognito

Rows Grower wrote: »

Guy, you're obviously very experienced in this whole internet arguing scene.

I'm not interested in it to be honest but I'll continue to call out faux outrage when I see bluffers like yourself engaging in it.

Have a wonderful evening.

Faux outrage my hole. A video of someone dying having been stabbed adds nothing and is not something that is routinely on threads.


and youre right, I am experienced at it, which is why I make sure to call out bull**** like changing your stance once I tell you I didn't click on it and ignoring any other points when you answer but just fill your reply with rubbish.

Clarence Boddiker

glenfieldman wrote: »

There was no way the person videoing that incedent could have predicted that awful outcome
But some prick zooming in on clearly dead people including childern is a hell of a difference.
yes i agree, it was a good idea to record Mr Floyds arrest purely for evidance, but please dont compare apples with oranges.

My point is, when the videos shared online serve one agenda, its fine to share them.
When they go against the narrative..its not ok.

Clarence Boddiker

glenfieldman wrote: »

Nobody knew the circumstances of Mr Floyd
And secondly, I never asked for the video to be removed from anywhere
Stop being an angry troll and try and connect this thread into a race issue

The videos are being removed from social media, as for connecting it to a race issue, it seems perfectly acceptable to do that in certain situations doesn't it?

ACitizenErased

Police treating it as terror-related.

Guy:Incognito

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

My point is, when the videos shared online serve one agenda, its fine to share them.
When they go against the narrative..its not ok.

The fact that you see no difference says a lot about you but fits in well with your agenda when posting in the forum.


A video of someone dying in a pool of their own blood while someone is trying to keep them alive serves no purpose in a discussion. A video of a perpetrator might have, but the aftermath isnt.


The person being convicted of this isnt going to be dependent on it having been filmed and shared. Its not even remotely similar.

ronivek

Awful stuff.

And people here acting as if it’s not completely standard across almost every platform, site, and publication to remove images or videos of seriously injured people being treated on scene after any kind of incident. Especially if there may be obvious gore or depiction of death.

Whether that should or should not be the case is irrelevant; it is absolutely normal and widespread.

begbysback

Why cant we all just get along!?

Rows Grower

begbysback wrote: »

Why cant we all just get along!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9BNoNFKCBI

sid waddell

begbysback wrote: »

Why cant we all just get along!?

Insane far right ideology

splashuum

Sky news have confirmed the attack is terror related. https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/1274456170388951040?s=21

Clarence Boddiker

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The fact that you see no difference says a lot about you but fits in well with your agenda when posting in the forum.


A video of someone dying in a pool of their own blood while someone is trying to keep them alive serves no purpose in a discussion. A video of a perpetrator might have, but the aftermath isnt.


The person being convicted of this isnt going to be dependent on it having been filmed and shared. Its not even remotely similar.

It is of course similar, except the Reading videos possibly counter the narrative to which you subscribe. Thats it really.

Happy4all

a Libyan man arrested

Guy:Incognito

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

It is of course similar, except the Reading videos possibly counter the narrative to which you subscribe. Thats it really.

Bull****.

What is gained by watching someone bleed to death while receiving CPR?

Its not the perpetrator, its just a victim , afterwards, dying.

and, I suspect, you wont behaving a look for the victims past to see have they a criminal record to comment on in this thread I reckon..................

Guy:Incognito

begbysback wrote: »

Why cant we all just get along!?

cos trolls.

begbysback

Rows Grower wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9BNoNFKCBI

Getting emotional watching that - see people, no need for the hate, back in the day we used to sort everything out with a song

Danzy

Islamic activist arrested.

bloodless_coup

Happy4all wrote: »

a Libyan man arrested

African Muslim, probably not black though.

joe40

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The fact that you see no difference says a lot about you but fits in well with your agenda when posting in the forum.


A video of someone dying in a pool of their own blood while someone is trying to keep them alive serves no purpose in a discussion. A video of a perpetrator might have, but the aftermath isnt.


The person being convicted of this isnt going to be dependent on it having been filmed and shared. Its not even remotely similar.

We expect terrorists whatever their particular brand to kill people. That is what they.

We don't expect the police to kill people.

That is the difference.

People know that. This truth and motive of this will come out police are already saying terror related.

bloodless_coup

Let me be the first to declare that the suspect was suffering from mental health problems.

Danzy

Meth Brain wrote: »

So it's Islam v BLM?

Oh **** boys, this just got interesting!

What better way to hit the kids of the ruling class than at such a meeting.

Guy:Incognito

Meth Brain wrote: »

You can always just not watch the scary bad videos.

You can always rely on someone "brand new" finding boards just in time for threads like this...........

Ray Donovan

bloodless_coup wrote: »

Let me be the first to declare that the suspect was suffering from mental health problems.

Surely that'll be the official line before midnight!!

As an aside do we really think this isn't going to happen in Ireland at some stage?