Guinness Pro 14- Tv Viewing Options

thomond2006 · 10-08-2018 12:34pm

Riskymove wrote: »

TG4 are not listed there unfortunately

Look again. TG4 is listed for Connacht vs Glasgow and Connacht vs Zebre the following week.

MJohnston · 10-08-2018 12:35pm

Riskymove wrote: »

TG4 are not listed there unfortunately

They definitely are.

Former Former · 10-08-2018 12:35pm

Riskymove wrote: »

TG4 are not listed there unfortunately

Listed for me anyway.

awec · 10-08-2018 12:53pm

I posted the FTA games in Ireland (i.e. the TG4 matches) earlier in the thread:

awec wrote: »

FTA games in Ireland until Christmas (there are two weeks with no FTA game).

Cardiff v Leinster
Scarlets v Leinster
Munster v Ospreys
Leinster v Dragons
Cardiff v Munster
Connacht v Scarlets
Connacht v Leinster
Ospreys v Connacht
Connacht v Dragons
Leinster v Ospreys
Dragons v Leinster
Connacht v Ulster

Leinster x 6, Munster x 2, Connacht x 5, Ulster x 1.

In the UK, Ulster are never on Freesports, but they are on S4C once and BBC Alba twice.

Basically Ulster fans without Premier Sports won't ever get to see Ulster in English before Christmas at least.

Riskymove · 10-08-2018 2:16pm

MJohnston wrote: »

They definitely are.

That's very odd - I had a look on the phone instead and can see all the logos

The logos for TG4 and Premier sports are not showing when I look at that page on PC. However, if I hover the cursor in the area where the logo should be the name of channel appears!

thanks anyway

Winters · 10-08-2018 4:37pm

OldRio wrote: »

Well I have eir broadband so happy days.

Any problems with it? I've just taken the nuclear option and cancelled my Virgin subscription so that I can sign up for the €39.99pm Eir Broadband deal and cast Eir Sport. With nippers in the house I cant go to the pub or RDS as much as id like to.

legohouse · 10-08-2018 6:38pm

Winters wrote:

Any problems with it? I've just taken the nuclear option and cancelled my Virgin subscription so that I can sign up for the â‚¬39.99pm Eir Broadband deal and cast Eir Sport. With nippers in the house I cant go to the pub or RDS as much as id like to.

I have done same..cancelled virgin just got eir installed today with the tv option.. the rugby on eir made me change
havent been home yet so will let you know what its like

icdg · 10-08-2018 7:25pm

Meanwhile while eir hire Tommy Bowe, their friends at Premier Sports have gone for a colleague to host Ulster home games.

Oh, and the commentator’s Mark Robson....

https://www.pro14rugby.org/2018/08/10/trimble-heads-trio-of-top-talent-for-premier-sports-in-northern-ireland/

OldRio · 10-08-2018 7:50pm

Winters wrote: »

Any problems with it? I've just taken the nuclear option and cancelled my Virgin subscription so that I can sign up for the €39.99pm Eir Broadband deal and cast Eir Sport. With nippers in the house I cant go to the pub or RDS as much as id like to.

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Never had any trouble to be honest. We're out in the sticks, Leitrim, therefore the speeds are poor. 4Mb. That's my only complaint.

Tigerandahalf · 10-08-2018 7:59pm

icdg wrote: »

Meanwhile while eir hire Tommy Bowe, their friends at Premier Sports have gone for a colleague to host Ulster home games.

Oh, and the commentator’s Mark Robson....

https://www.pro14rugby.org/2018/08/10/trimble-heads-trio-of-top-talent-for-premier-sports-in-northern-ireland/

What does this mean for games televised by both eir and premier? Will we get to see Trimble and co for certain matches or what?

icdg · 10-08-2018 8:07pm

I’d imagine so, though can’t say for certain. Trimble is seemingly only hosting Ulster home games. What seems to be the case is that Premier Sports is hiring different broadcast teams for games being hosted in Scotland, Wales, and NI. I’d expect we’ll see at least some of that coverage, particularly where there’s no Irish team involved.

dublinman1990 · 10-08-2018 9:27pm

Will Fitzgerald continue doing his analysis for the 6 Nations on the BBC during his time with Eir?

Also; have Eir announced their rugby commentator for their own rugby coverage yet?

Heymans · 13-08-2018 10:07am

MJohnston wrote: »

No legal options available to Virgin Media Ireland customers, unfortunately.

Well, technically there's one legal option - switch your mobile phone to one of the Eir Mobile contracts with the free Sports pack and watch it on your phone. What white_westie said above might indicate you could cast it to your TV too, but that's very unclear. Not a particularly useful option either way imo, as Eir Mobile aren't a very good mobile network.

I have no idea how strong PremierSports' "UK Only" detection is, but I suppose there are ways around that (moving to the UK is what I mean obviously....), and you could get an app-only subscription from them.

<snip> is paid and legal option.

Everyone with issues getting Eir Sports and all the European rugby shoudl subscribe. €60 for the year

irishbucsfan · 13-08-2018 10:45am

Heymans wrote: »

<snip> is paid and legal option.

Incorrect

Former Former · 13-08-2018 10:49am

Heymans wrote: »

is paid and legal option.

You can't really believe this.

MJohnston · 13-08-2018 10:59am

Heymans wrote: »

is paid and legal option.

Everyone with issues getting Eir Sports and all the European rugby shoudl subscribe. €60 for the year

There's zero chance that is legal. There's also zero chance your post will not be removed, so I'm redacting the name of the service you posted.

Heymans · 13-08-2018 11:38am

So much for sticking up for the person who is trying to resolve problems of posters on here.

It may or may not be legal but with borderless world of the internet different countries' legal systems may or may not find a remedy to illegal jurisdiction issues.

irishbucsfan · 13-08-2018 12:31pm

Heymans wrote: »

So much for sticking up for the person who is trying to resolve problems of posters on here.

It may or may not be legal but with borderless world of the internet different countries' legal systems may or may not find a remedy to illegal jurisdiction issues.

Its not legal here anyway, and claiming its legal is misleading.

MJohnston · 13-08-2018 1:03pm

Heymans wrote: »

So much for sticking up for the person who is trying to resolve problems of posters on here.

It may or may not be legal but with borderless world of the internet different countries' legal systems may or may not find a remedy to illegal jurisdiction issues.

The only salient point here is that you claimed in your original post that it was legal when you didn't know if it was or not.

Heymans · 13-08-2018 1:26pm

MJohnston wrote: »

The only salient point here is that you claimed in your original post that it was legal when you didn't know if it was or not.

By virtue of the fact that it's a paid for service I considered it to be legal.

In hindsight that might not be the best of conclusions to have come to. It is up for debate however I don't think anyone here has definitive proof either way.

Considering all the talk of streaming sites I wished to input my pennys worth given the good quality of streams it provides.

awec · 13-08-2018 1:39pm

The only legal way to view the Pro14 in Ireland is via Eir Sports, TG4 and S4C if you can get it.

Other providers are not to be discussed. Paying for them does not make them legal.

Cookiemunster · 13-08-2018 1:39pm

Heymans wrote: »

By virtue of the fact that it's a paid for service I considered it to be legal.

In hindsight that might not be the best of conclusions to have come to. It is up for debate however I don't think anyone here has definitive proof either way.

Considering all the talk of streaming sites I wished to input my pennys worth given the good quality of streams it provides.

Unless the content is broadcast on the platforms that paid for the rights, then it's illegal. I'm pretty sure it's also not allowed to discuss these sites on boards as it leaves the site open to legal action.

MJohnston · 13-08-2018 1:40pm

Heymans wrote: »

By virtue of the fact that it's a paid for service I considered it to be legal.

That is terrible reasoning, I'm afraid. There are countless dodgy services that charge for pirated streams.

ScrubsfanChris · 13-08-2018 3:07pm

Heymans wrote: »

By virtue of the fact that it's a paid for service I considered it to be legal.

You also have to pay for heroin, whats your point? :pac:

kooga · 13-08-2018 6:42pm

From a516 digital Just getting back on topic - s4c hd is now no longer on the sky irl epg

stock> · 14-08-2018 11:43am

kooga wrote: »

From a516 digital Just getting back on topic - s4c hd is now no longer on the sky irl epg

One can set it up on the "other channel" facility under services.

https://en.kingofsat.net/detail-s4c.php

darklighter · 14-08-2018 11:50am

I'm assuming the games on S4C etc. will also be on Eir? (apologies if this has already been answered further up the thread)

Tigerandahalf · 14-08-2018 12:04pm

kooga wrote: »

From a516 digital Just getting back on topic - s4c hd is now no longer on the sky irl epg

Neither is the sd channel. It is still in hd on freesat though.

https://www.a516digital.com/2018/08/s4c-taken-off-irish-sky-epg.html?m=1

kooga · 14-08-2018 12:47pm

Its loss on the sky epg means no record facility but yes still on the freesat box

There may be an overlap in games shown but I assume they will focus on the Welsh regions

Digifriendly · 14-08-2018 10:30pm

kooga wrote: »

Its loss on the sky epg means no record facility but yes still on the freesat box

There may be an overlap in games shown but I assume they will focus on the Welsh regions

May I be a bit pedantic and say that it is possible to manually record 'other channels' on Sky by linking your Sky box to an external video/DVD recorder and ensuring your Sky box is tuned to the channel you want to record from and that it stays tuned to that channel for time you want to record. I know this is awkward to do compared to direct recording from epg but possible nonetheless.

icdg · 14-08-2018 11:23pm

darklighter wrote: »

I'm assuming the games on S4C etc. will also be on Eir? (apologies if this has already been answered further up the thread)

That’s what the original announcement said - all 152 games to be on eir Sport (see https://www.pro14rugby.org/2018/05/03/qa-for-eir-sport-broadcast-partnership/) However right now the Pro14 broadcast schedule shows a number of games not on eir Sport (including at least one involving an Irish team!). Right now games not listed to be on eir Sport but are on S4C are Scarlets v Kings (R5), Cheetahs v Cardiff (R7), Connacht v Dragons (R8, on TG4), Dragons v Edinburgh (R9), Cardiff v Connacht (R14, on TG4), Treviso v Scarlets (R15), and Scarlets v Cheetahs (R16).

Talking of Wales, here’s Premier Sports Welsh crew:

https://www.pro14rugby.org/2018/08/14/sam-warburton-shane-williams-and-martyn-williams-headline-premier-sports-team-in-wales/

stephen_n · 15-08-2018 6:59am

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

I am on Virgin.

I pay 70 p/m for basic tv and pretty decent broadband.

Have decided to move to Eir and will be doing so in the next few weeks.

Their offer currently is around 50p/m for the first 12 of 18 month contract and then 90p/m thereafter.

I know a few people with Eir broadband in my area and they say it is very good. We're not heavy users in my house.

Tbh it's a pretty good deal in my eyes. I could never justify paying too much for Sky/ BT because I wouldn't get much use as I only really watch rugby and they never really showed enough as they shared the games and Sky had barely any pro14 anyway

But now that they're all on the same platform, I have no problem paying 20 a month extra as I'd happily watch 2-3 rugby games a week. And all the Heineken Cup is on BT now.

At that rate you’re paying €7 a month less not €20 more. If you average it out over 18 months it’s only €63 a month which isn’t bad really.

Digifriendly · 15-08-2018 9:38am

Wonder will Eir Sports and Premier have separate presenters,
commentators, summarisers and panellists for Pro 14 games? Will there e.g. be 2 separate sets of panellists for Ulster home games with both Tommy Bowe as well as Andrew Trimble hosting coverage?
As Eir Sports 2 shows exactly the same programmes as Premier Sports 1 I wonder what will happen if there are 2 separate teams employed by each of the broadcasters?

Tigerandahalf · 15-08-2018 10:12am

Digifriendly wrote: »

Wonder will Eir Sports and Premier have separate presenters,
commentators, summarisers and panellists for Pro 14 games? Will there e.g. be 2 separate sets of panellists for Ulster home games with both Tommy Bowe as well as Andrew Trimble hosting coverage?
As Eir Sports 2 shows exactly the same programmes as Premier Sports 1 I wonder what will happen if there are 2 separate teams employed by each of the broadcasters?

They haven't been clear on that. If Ulster are playing a Welsh team at home I'd imagine Trimble's team will be in the studio and there will just be one set of commentators with someone pitchside. The same feed going to eir and premier. Perhaps some of the Welsh team might come over to provide a neutral team.

The Welsh would probably have a home game to cover in Wales anyway. They could do with a balanced team in the studio. No point having Trimble and all Ulster lads focusing on just Ulster with the feed going to Wales.

Tigerandahalf · 15-08-2018 10:18am

E.g. the 1st weekend Cardiff and the Ospreys are both at home on the Friday evening at the same time. I'd imagine there will just be one studio team at one ground with just commentators at the 2nd game. Like what happens with Sky on the rugby.

The following day Connacht and Munster are at home - presumably the studio will be at Thomond Park and cover both games from there.

icdg · 15-08-2018 10:23am

I doubt somehow Tommy Bowe will be presenting 6-7 games a weekend - that would be a very heavy workload! What Premier seems to be doing is that there will be three crews, one for Ulster games, one for Welsh games, and one for Scottish games, and that for games taking place in those jurisdictions, the particular crew will be used. Then you will have the eir Sport crew who I presume will be used for games taking place in Ireland. Obviously that leaves Italian and South African games - I can see derbies in those countries being presented with no wrap (let’s face it the interest in those games here won’t exactly be huge) with the relevant crew of the opposing team’s country being used for this their games.

That’s just how I see it working incidentally based on what Premier have put out so far, obviously we have to wait and see what happens in practice!

Digifriendly · 15-08-2018 1:50pm

But for Irish derbies e.g. Ulster vs Munster will both Tommy Bowe for Eir Sports and Andrew Trimble for Premier Sports both be on site?

Tigerandahalf · 15-08-2018 2:02pm

Digifriendly wrote: »

But for Irish derbies e.g. Ulster vs Munster will both Tommy Bowe for Eir Sports and Andrew Trimble for Premier Sports both be on site?

I'd imagine you will see a mix of both for the big derbies. You would think there would still be just the one studio.

Cookiemunster · 15-08-2018 3:34pm

More than likely a one off to launch the season.

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1029728825385668613

bennyl10 · 15-08-2018 3:36pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

More than likely a one off to launch the season.

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1029728825385668613

They were testing eir sport one hd on sky last week so at least that much of it will be done

icdg · 15-08-2018 4:39pm

That’s great news (and about time, we had Setanta Ireland HD, as was, on UPC, as also was, about a decade ago!)

Mind you they say free to air, but I’d lay several bets they mean free to view (ie Sky digibox and viewing card required).

icdg · 15-08-2018 5:04pm

Also, eir are the new referees sponsor, so no more Specsavers jokes:

https://www.eirsport.ie/leinster-s-clash-with-blues-will-be-free-to-air

nc6000 · 16-08-2018 8:56pm

bennyl10 wrote:

They were testing eir sport one hd on sky last week so at least that much of it will be done

My Eir Sport 1 is now in HD.

Scythica · 17-08-2018 9:44am

Lads, is the only way I can watch this (living in England now) getting Premier Sports package or a sky sports package?

Cookiemunster · 17-08-2018 9:56am

Scythica wrote: »

Lads, is the only way I can watch this (living in England now) getting Premier Sports package or a sky sports package?

Premier Sports. Sky no longer have any Pro14 (or European rugby) coverage.

stephen_n · 17-08-2018 9:56am

Scythica wrote: »

Lads, is the only way I can watch this (living in England now) getting Premier Sports package or a sky sports package?

Sky don’t have it

irelandrover · 17-08-2018 9:59am

Has anyone seen an announcement for the TV rights in Europe yet? Living in Holland and last year could get all the games on teh eurosport app.

icdg · 20-08-2018 4:19pm

You’ll have to squint to read this one, but it’s a got a bit of detail on how Premier Sports will be presenting the Pro14. Also, it seems they have picked up some rights to the PRL “A” League for their English viewers.

http://twitter.com/carolyn_hitt/status/1030744442339246081?s=21

dregin · 20-08-2018 4:21pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

More than likely a one off to launch the season.

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1029728825385668613

Account suspended?

kooga · 20-08-2018 4:30pm

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/heres-how-premier-sports-plan-15044137

online here

Guinness Pro 14- Tv Viewing Options

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