Kerry GAA discussion thread #2

Down by 2 at Half time in the Joe McDonagh cup.

1-7 to 0-8

Clare this weekend, any thoughts on likely team? Will be without Peter Crowley & Gavin White at a minimum, any other injury concerns?

Well this is interesting. Caveat is this piece was written by a Legion man and Murphy plays for crokes. Obviously doesn't name a source so who knows.

Shane Murphy, meanwhile, is currently out of the picture. Some journalists seem to be under the impression that the Dr Crokes netminder, who missed the league campaign due to club commitments, “opted out” of the Kerry set-up but it’s my understanding that he was informed by management that he was surplus to requirements – for this year at least.

https://www.killarneyadvertiser.ie/clare-v-kerry-preview-munster-excitement-at-an-all-time-low/

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

i would happily take a 10-12 point loss after last years debacle in killarney

i would like to ask how many of these players are not available for kerry tomorrow due to retirement or injury , none of which are in the machday 26

Barry John Keane, not called up by mgmt
Barry O'Sullivan , not called up by mgmt
Brendan O'Sullivan , dont know
Daith Casey , not called up by mgmt
Dara Moynihan, injured
Darran O'Sullivan , retired
Donnchadha Walsh , retired
Fionn Fitzgerald , not called up by mgmt
Gregg Horan, dont know
Jack Barry , injured
Jack Savage , injured
Kevin McCarthy , that's a long story but officially injured I guess
Killian Young , retired
Paul Murphy , injured
Peter Crowley , had surgery las week so out for a while

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That forward line will have to put up a massive score today to give us genuine momentum. 5 of the best forwards in the game. If these guys click no team including Dublin can stop them and then our defensive averageness won’t be relevant. Looking for at least a couple of goals and 20 plus points this evening largely from play.
Hoping Gavin White gets some minutes from the bench, another massive player for us.

Forge83 wrote: »

That forward line will have to put up a massive score today to give us genuine momentum. 5 of the best forwards in the game. If these guys click no team including Dublin can stop them and then our defensive averageness won’t be relevant. Looking for at least a couple of goals and 20 plus points this evening largely from play.
Hoping Gavin White gets some minutes from the bench, another massive player for us.

Problem with that is the better teams will fall back, turn you over and then destroy you on the counter. We may get away with it this evening but I wouldn’t like to be facing in to the Super 8’s with that lineup teams are just too tactically good now.

Same As wrote: »

Killian Young hasn't formally retired but didn't make any appearance during the league campaign.

Jack Savage wasn't selected on the panel for the season, could well be in training but not from what I've heard. Same for Brendan O Sullivan.

Jack is gone to the states in the last week - had a very good club championship & county league before going.

Would definitely be a better option than a couple of lads inside at the moment but doesn’t seem to be in Peter’s affections

Forge83 wrote: »

I suppose we would actually have to get the ball to them first anyway for them to have any chance.
Can’t make any sense of that game tonight. Only positive was James first half display.
Tim Moynihan on radio Kerry is hard to listen to. “A mother and father belt of a shoulder”. What does he be on about. Surely they could get some guys with better modern knowledge, Darren O Sullivan,Donnacha Walsh,Marc O Se etc.

Darran busy selling his soul to Paddy Power, Donncha doesn't seem the type for that kind of role, Marc is on eir.

James and Seanie Shea injured tonight? Hopefully nothing serious for either man

Outside of our full forward line- I think we are fairly average.

And Keane is falling into the one managerial failing that drives me nuts whereby a manager picks a bench of guys who do exactly the same thing but just not as good as the lads starting.

Having Burns, Lyne & Mike geaney on the bench is just idiotic as they are going to do the same thing as o brien or Moynihan but just not as good.

It might not matter against Clare but against better teams we will need players who can change the game. We need at least one playmaker on there. I’d also like to see Gavin o brien back in as we offer an extra option when pushing up on teams kick outs

few stats from tonight , it was 1-09 to 0-8 points from play in favor of kerry

1-09 to 0-3 points at half time , clare out scored kerry in the second by 0-9 to 0-6
kerry created 16 scoring chances from play scoring 10 ,in total scored 16/23
clare created 14 scoring chances from play scoring 8 , in total scored 12/22

i am not having a go but that last 20 minutes is as bad as i have seen kerry against us , we played terrible at times tonight , there are tons of things for kerry to work on after tonight

not once did kerry really put our young keeper under pressure for short kickouts , stephan ryan is 19 years of age on his second ever senior championship game tonight in both club or intercounty , our 4th keeper to be used this season and 5th in 10 months

you did have a couple of goal chances in the first half , but in truth everyone expects kerry to kick on with a 9 point lead at half time , i genuinely think clare did not play that well tonight ,
as pointed out last night kerry are missing 5 players through injury , ;lost there best midfielder after 18 minutes to a soft black card , lost o donohue to a hammy at the start of the second and o'shea at the end of the game , but that must be a worrying performance tonight
also is it just me or is kerrys level of conditioning below par for this time of year , intensity levels seemed to drop rapidly in the second half too

i know you are dammed if you do , dammed if you dont in these type of games against weaker opposition ,but to an armchair football supporter that was very unkerry like

Anyone knoe the story with the de Brun fella from Fries playing with Limerick? He's played U 21 and Junior with them as well i think

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

good interview by peter keane from last night !

Great interview by PK called it as he saw it. Much better to se an interview like that rather than the insipid interviews given often on the Sunday game

dobman88 wrote: »

Seems Jack Savage is in America for the summer. Nice to see lads enjoying their youth and hopefully see him back in a Kerry jersey some day.

I think the odds are he doesn't have a future with Kerry - just that slight bit too ponderous for inter-county to my mind. He's a superb club player but at intercounty level where you get closed down much quicker he's too easy nullified by intercounty defenders.

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I'd wager he does have a future - prob better than 4/5 of the forwards in there at the moment. Just needs to get the discipline under control.

Would be our best playmaker if he was inside there but do agree that he can take a little bit too much out of the ball

Better than what 4/5 forwards? Better playmaker than Seán O'Shea? Come off it. He got a good shot at it with Kerry, just isn't up to that level. Struggled with the physicality for one thing.

Was a decent underage player and still a very good club player.

His clubmate Barry John Keane, in my view, is someone who has been treated harshly though. No point going back into that I guess.