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Sephiroth_dude · 22-05-2019 10:50am

Jurgen The German wrote: »

Finished Dragon Quest 11 last night, lovely, fun game, if a little easy when you get over level 40 or so. Still threw about 70 hours into it. Defo one for fans if classic FF games.

Any advice for the mordegon boss fight?

Jurgen The German · 22-05-2019 12:40pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Any advice for the mordegon boss fight?

Are you struggling?

I only died once throughout the entire game and that was early doors when I got too big for my boots when grinding.

The way I did it was have main character and Hendrick (both 50+ physically strong), Serena and Rab as my line up. Had Serena and Rabs focus be on magic, and Hendrick on offense. Main character I controlled mainly using the most powerful gigaslash ability and for topping up MP when needed. S & R will keep you healed and attack when everyone is healthy and Hendrick also has healing abilities for emergencies. Took about half an hour or so between the two incarnations.

nix · 22-05-2019 10:32pm

Thinking of jumping into a new JRPG, any recommendations? I'd prefer to play on the switch, but can be swayed to PC or PS4.

I have my eye on Tales of vesperia, but interested to know if i should try something else?

Sephiroth_dude · 22-05-2019 10:50pm

Jurgen The German wrote: »

Are you struggling?

I only died once throughout the entire game and that was early doors when I got too big for my boots when grinding.

The way I did it was have main character and Hendrick (both 50+ physically strong), Serena and Rab as my line up. Had Serena and Rabs focus be on magic, and Hendrick on offense. Main character I controlled mainly using the most powerful gigaslash ability and for topping up MP when needed. S & R will keep you healed and attack when everyone is healthy and Hendrick also has healing abilities for emergencies. Took about half an hour or so between the two incarnations.

Haven't tried them yet, was just looking for some tips before I attempted them.

nix wrote: »

Thinking of jumping into a new JRPG, any recommendations? I'd prefer to play on the switch, but can be swayed to PC or PS4.

I have my eye on Tales of vesperia, but interested to know if i should try something else?

Have you tried xeno blade chronicles 2? I highly recommend it, Vesperia is a great game but if you're use to the more recent tales titles you might find the combat slow.

Retr0gamer · 22-05-2019 10:55pm

nix wrote: »

Thinking of jumping into a new JRPG, any recommendations? I'd prefer to play on the switch, but can be swayed to PC or PS4.

I have my eye on Tales of vesperia, but interested to know if i should try something else?

There's always way better options than any of the tales of games.

You not played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 yet? Not a great selection on the switch. Ys VIII is a fantastic action RPG.

PS4 is equally bereft.

There's the Atelier games which I love but aren't for everyone. I find them relaxing and have a nice slice of life vibe compared to the save the world stakes in other games.

There's Dragon Quest XI but I'm waiting on the switch version there.

Tokyo Xanadu for more falcom goodness

Or get stuck into the Trails series.

megaten · 22-05-2019 11:15pm

Xenoblade 2 has better production values than any Tales game but I wouldn't say its massively better. The game part is good but the story is massively ham in the wrong way and is made worse by the awful audio mixing.

nix · 22-05-2019 11:38pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Have you tried xeno blade chronicles 2? I highly recommend it, Vesperia is a great game but if you're use to the more recent tales titles you might find the combat slow.

I've played xenoblade chronicles but didnt get too far into it, i didnt give it alot of time, i wasnt mad about the combat, same with xenoblade chronicles x, but i didnt give that one much time at all, again, not mad on the combat.

But i didnt give the combat a proper chance, i wasnt in the right mind for a game of that size at the time. But it reminded me of FF12 combat and that never grew on me either..

And I've never played a tales game ever before, I've only really played the final fantasy games and then also Persona 5. So outside of those, i havent played a lot..

Id be happy with a good story/characters and a good combat system, Id try xenoblade chronicles 2 but ill wait until the price drops as its pretty pricey at the mo..

nix · 22-05-2019 11:42pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

There's always way better options than any of the tales of games.

You not played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 yet? Not a great selection on the switch. Ys VIII is a fantastic action RPG.

PS4 is equally bereft.

There's the Atelier games which I love but aren't for everyone. I find them relaxing and have a nice slice of life vibe compared to the save the world stakes in other games.

There's Dragon Quest XI but I'm waiting on the switch version there.

Tokyo Xanadu for more falcom goodness

Or get stuck into the Trails series.

Is that Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana? That looks fun, combat wise, is the story/characters good?

I never played the Dragon quest games, their stories looked lacking, very generic RPG of times past :pac:

Sephiroth_dude · 22-05-2019 11:49pm

nix wrote: »

Is that Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana? That looks fun, combat wise, is the story/characters good?

I never played the Dragon quest games, their stories looked lacking, very generic RPG of times past :pac:

I played Ys VIII on switch and loved it, I would go with that if you can or try vesperia or Tokyo Xanadu/Trails games on ps4.

Retr0gamer · 23-05-2019 12:13am

nix wrote: »

Is that Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana? That looks fun, combat wise, is the story/characters good?

I never played the Dragon quest games, their stories looked lacking, very generic RPG of times past :pac:

Ys games are less about the story and more about incredibly fun game play. I'd still highly recommend it as even if it's light on story it's well paced.

Also you couldn't be more wrong about Dragon Quest. There's a few weak entries in terms of story but there's some really incredible writing in the majority of the games. The twee look belies a real maturity and emotional depth to its writing. Dragon Quest V fir instance is one of the best videogame stories ever told, so much so it's the game that they choose to make a forthcoming cgi movie about. It's a real emotional roller coaster.

I've not played a lot of dq11 but friends have said the story is fantastic in it and have read dragon quests fans say it's one of the series best.

K.O.Kiki · 23-05-2019 2:35am

FFVII Remako HD project 1.0 released.

Arcadeheroes · 25-05-2019 7:11pm

Star Ocean: First Departure is coming to the playstation 4.
Tri-ace are probably one of the most unappreciated developers along with falcom.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/05/star_ocean_first_departure_r_a_remake_of_the_first_star_ocean_is_adventuring_to_ps4

sniper_samurai · 25-05-2019 7:56pm

Arcadeheroes wrote: »

Star Ocean: First Departure is coming to the playstation 4.
Tri-ace are probably one of the most unappreciated developers along with falcom.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/05/star_ocean_first_departure_r_a_remake_of_the_first_star_ocean_is_adventuring_to_ps4

About time this came West. Iirc Square Enix released the PSP remakes of both First Departure and Second Evolution on PS4 in Japan years ago.

Retr0gamer · 30-05-2019 10:56am

After trying twice to play Atelier Meruru on the Vita I started it on the PC. Stayed up until 1.30am. The game just has a fantastic just one for go loop, like all atelier games but even more so here as you are just bombarded with quests completions and rewards that make a tangible difference to you.

So yeah, I'm finding the game an awful lot of fun. Since I'm playing it on PC I'm more likely to stick with it and beat it. I just can't seem to stick with a game on the Vita. Haven't gone back to Tactics Ogre either and thinking I'll just install a PSP emulator and play it on PC.

ERG89 · 07-06-2019 12:34pm

https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1136936925078708224

Retr0gamer · 07-06-2019 12:45pm

ERG89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1136936925078708224

Well unless that's a mistranslation then it's pretty definitive. It's a pity as I would love to have it on Switch, and more so the PC.

It would be a no brainer to farm the port out to a third party but I'm guessing the engine being a PS3-4 cross generational thing that it's a total mess technically.

Thankfully SMT5 will be UE4.

Still no plan at present just means they aren't working on it but it looks doubtful.

07-06-2019 10:30pm

Dragon Quest XI PS4 is down to €20 in Argos. Not gonna find a better price than that I'd think

Sephiroth_dude · 08-06-2019 11:06am

New Bandai Namco RPG Tales Of Arise

https://www.gameinformer.com/rumor/2019/06/07/rumor-bandai-namco-rpg-tales-of-arise-leaked

_Godot_ · 08-06-2019 12:59pm

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

Dragon Quest XI PS4 is down to €20 in Argos. Not gonna find a better price than that I'd think

Just reserved one, cheaper than the copy I was eyeing in cex.

sniper_samurai · 09-06-2019 5:45pm

Grandia HD Collection announced for Switch and PC.

https://www.gunghoonline.com/news/grandia-hd-collection-for-nintendo-switchtm-grandia-hd-remaster-and-grandia-ii-hd-remaster-for-pc-coming-soon/

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy · 09-06-2019 7:51pm

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Grandia HD Collection announced for Switch and PC.

https://www.gunghoonline.com/news/grandia-hd-collection-for-nintendo-switchtm-grandia-hd-remaster-and-grandia-ii-hd-remaster-for-pc-coming-soon/

Never played Grandia, looking forward to that on Switch

Sephiroth_dude · 09-06-2019 8:12pm

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy wrote: »

Never played Grandia, looking forward to that on Switch

You're in for a treat! both great games, would have loved to have seen 3 and xtreme come over here to europe.

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy · 09-06-2019 9:24pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

You're in for a treat! both great games, would have loved to have seen 3 and xtreme come over here to europe.

Switch getting a lot of rpgs atm aren't they? No Vita yet but very glad. Or is it just a few kinda together

Sephiroth_dude · 09-06-2019 9:56pm

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy wrote: »

Switch getting a lot of rpgs atm aren't they? No Vita yet but very glad. Or is it just a few kinda together

But sure the vita has been dead a long time :pac:

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy · 10-06-2019 1:59am

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

But sure the vita has been dead a long time :pac:

I know, there's so much rpg and vn stuff on there though, I'd love Switch to be the same

ERG89 · 10-06-2019 2:24pm

noodler · 10-06-2019 11:41pm

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

Dragon Quest XI PS4 is down to €20 in Argos. Not gonna find a better price than that I'd think

Thanks got the last one in Stephens green

nix · 11-06-2019 12:00am

noodler wrote: »

Thanks got the last one in Stephens green

Aye i got the last one in Blanch, i was gonna wait for it to hit switch but 20 blips was too good to pass up.

Cheers Cake!

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy · 11-06-2019 12:27am

nix wrote: »

Aye i got the last one in Blanch, i was gonna wait for it to hit switch but 20 blips was too good to pass up.

Cheers Cake!

For to post. Reserved one and let a friend know and they picked it up too, they really appreciated it, thanks Cake!

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy · 11-06-2019 9:39am

Crystal Chronicles being remastered at the end of the year/winter
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/06/final_fantasy_crystal_chronicles_remastered_edition_releases_this_winter

megaten · 11-06-2019 3:40pm

Delighted that FF8 seems to be getting a great remaster. Looks like the properly redid the UI instead of slapping a mobile UI instead. Never got round to beating it when I was younger.

Xenji · 11-06-2019 4:05pm

I still wish they would remake VI and a proper remaster of IX, to be honest I am not that pushed by VII/VIII.

NoviGlitzko · 11-06-2019 4:40pm

Well VIII is my favourite game of all time, so I'm obviously stoked.

Have to say it looks great too.

Xenji · 11-06-2019 5:37pm

Seiken Densetsu 3 has finally got an official localization after a nearly 25 year wait, it does have its flaws but it is one of my favorite SNES games, I have always been a sucker for a good class change system.

sniper_samurai · 11-06-2019 5:44pm

Xenji wrote: »

Seiken Densetsu 3 has finally got an official localization after a nearly 25 year wait, it does have its flaws but it is one of my favorite SNES games, I have always been a sucker for a good class change system.

It's also getting a remake, probably along the lines of the one done for Secret of Mana.

Xenji · 11-06-2019 6:12pm

sniper_samurai wrote: »

It's also getting a remake, probably along the lines of the one done for Secret of Mana.

If it is anything like the first remake of there series I shall be avoiding it.

Retr0gamer · 11-06-2019 6:33pm

At least we finally got the original version .

Also liking the lack of ****s given for the ni no kuni remake.

11-06-2019 10:40pm

Xenji wrote: »

If it is anything like the first remake of there series I shall be avoiding it.

Looks like a far superior remake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW6g4xmBwJM

K.O.Kiki · 12-06-2019 1:48pm

It looks so fúcking good!

I never actually got into Seiken Densetsu 3; only played it in the early days of emulation.
Can't wait to see it in full.

noodler · 17-06-2019 10:01pm

About three hours into DQ11.

My first since 8.

Beautiful and all but slow start. Camera a mild pain when exploring indoors as well.

I'm told it starts slow tho.

Retr0gamer · 17-06-2019 11:20pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

It looks so fúcking good!

I never actually got into Seiken Densetsu 3; only played it in the early days of emulation.
Can't wait to see it in full.

Heard mixing things about 3. Lots of people hate it so hopefully the remake fixes those issues which is mostly that there's just too much forced combat.

Xenji · 18-06-2019 10:25am

I think the main gripe was the combat turning more tactical compared to the previous games, it turned a good few people off, but to me it has the best combat system of the series although it can get messy at time, it has the best gameplay as well with some interesting quirks.

The story is not great though and it has quite a few plot holes due to how you can start the game with any of the 5 different characters with their own overarching story and pick your own team.

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy · 18-06-2019 10:25am

Came up on my timeliness, I totally do not remember Jedward promoting DQ

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2010/11/this_jedward_dragon_quest_promotion_is_getting_too_much

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CGQQBzQKqBg

Sephiroth_dude · 18-06-2019 11:19am

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy wrote: »

Came up on my timeliness, I totally do not remember Jedward promoting DQ

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2010/11/this_jedward_dragon_quest_promotion_is_getting_too_much

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CGQQBzQKqBg

What the.........:O

megaten · 18-06-2019 11:22am

Never beat it but for me what turned me off Seiken Densetsu 3 was complex in a way which wasn't as appealing compared to the simplicity of Secret of Mana. I might feel differently if I tried it again today.

18-06-2019 2:02pm

I thought it was decent enough when I played it on emu years ago. It was like a more modern, superior version secret of mana. I didn't stick with it til the end for whatever reason. I think because its combat was too similar to SOM. I wouldn't be able to play SOM today either though. It's actually not great imo even though I played it to death as a child. Multiplayer aspect carried it.

skerry · 22-06-2019 8:26pm

Finally finished Xenoblade Chronicles 2 this week. Had left it down a few months back as we needed some time apart. Really enjoyed it overall despite some minor frustrations, particularly with the waypoint system.

Actually having a decent amount of craic with it now post game farming unique beasts. Battle system really came together towards the latter stages of the game once I sussed out the break mechanic and combo's.

Reckon there has to be an Irish writer in the game somewhere between characters called Bridgid and Padraig and I've also heard yonks, ****e, arse and someone being called a spanner

Picked up the DLC a few weeks back so interested to try Torna and see what changes they made, I understand its a bit more polished.

nix · 22-06-2019 8:44pm

I finished Tales of Vesperia earlier, overall the story and characters were excellent, the combat system was a mess i found. I dropped the difficulty down to easy as the random jumps in difficulty made it annoying.

Even on easy the boss fights went on far too long in most cases and the need to constantly grind countless levels ruined the flow of the game, i dont mind having to grind it out for the extra hard yet rewarding side quests at the end, but when you're plain sailing and then bump into a boss that requires you to go off and level loads is just sh!t.

I dont know how people prefer/enjoy playing on normal or even hard, the fights must go on forever. Unless I was missing something in the combat? I just set up standard tactics for the 3 members on auto and then just controlled Yuri. Is it best to micro manage every player on the field manually?

Overall i loved the game, just wish the combat was more refined

Anyway, im about to tackle Dragon quest XI now, my first DQ, any advice or settings i should set before i start the journey? :pac:

Kiith · 23-06-2019 9:23am

I gave up on Vesperia around an hour in, after hating the combat. Didn't even think to drop the difficulty down, just to play through the story, so i might give that a go at some stage.

Sephiroth_dude · 23-06-2019 9:48am

skerry wrote: »

Finally finished Xenoblade Chronicles 2 this week. Had left it down a few months back as we needed some time apart. Really enjoyed it overall despite some minor frustrations, particularly with the waypoint system.

Actually having a decent amount of craic with it now post game farming unique beasts. Battle system really came together towards the latter stages of the game once I sussed out the break mechanic and combo's.

Reckon there has to be an Irish writer in the game somewhere between characters called Bridgid and Padraig and I've also heard yonks, ****e, arse and someone being called a spanner

Picked up the DLC a few weeks back so interested to try Torna and see what changes they made, I understand its a bit more polished.

It truly is a great battle system once you grasp it, took me ages to realize how cores work and how important it is to have ones with special abilities ready and you sometimes needed them to progress the story or a side quest.

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