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Green Bay Packers Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    Could get Foster for about 2mill and crabtree wont have a 6 million market imo so i think they would have had the cap space prior to cutting Daniels if they wanted to make those moves....

    Certainly does make for a more interesting offseason now - far cry from Teddys conservative offseasons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    No wish to see dez anymore, maybe last season but now?? Pass please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Anyone watch the Packers-Texans game.

    Any comments to make.

    Watched it myself and the good things I got from it :

    Kumerow and Shephard.

    The linebacker whose name I forget- sorry.

    Montraveous Adams.

    The bad stuff.... defense still giving up huge yardage on 3rd Downs.

    How many third and very longs did they give up.

    Couldn’t get a glove on the Texan QB .... missed tackles.


    Now don’t tell me is just the preseason....... I know that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭seiphil


    Anyone watch the Packers-Texans game.

    Any comments to make.

    Watched it myself and the good things I got from it :

    Kumerow and Shephard.

    The linebacker whose name I forget- sorry.

    Montraveous Adams.

    The bad stuff.... defense still giving up huge yardage on 3rd Downs.

    How many third and very longs did they give up.

    Couldn’t get a glove on the Texan QB .... missed tackles.


    Now don’t tell me is just the preseason....... I know that
    Watched it myself.

    Ty Summers is the LB you're thinking of. Looks like a tackling machine. Similar enough to Martinez though.

    Kizer is just not doing it for me. Much prefer Tim Boyle.

    Yea a lot of familiar traits in the defense but expect it to be solid this year. Some nice turnovers. Hallman is not bad at all.

    Anyway bring on Ravens.

    Be good to see some starters get some minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    I'd take datone Jones back on a one year minimum prove it deal


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭cosatron


    good win last night, I think the only difference between the teams was that Rodgers sucked a little less than trubisky and Rodgers was poor, taking needless sacks and holding onto the ball to long, just throw it away for god sakes. The bears d is good, so I think we will improve on offense, Lefluer uses the tightends allot which is nice to see and MVS made some nice catches. The defense was good but was helped by poor bears playcalling and trubisky having a bit of a stinker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Have only seen the game in 40 but what I took from it was.

    Very rusty start due to Rodgers not playing all pre-season. As the game went on there were improvements in boot offence and the defence also improved as the game wore on which was great to see. A few worrying sacks on Rodgers alright but again hopefully down to a bit of rustiness.

    What I would say is if Chicago had a better QB I don't think we would have won. Trubisky looked very poor and indecisive.

    All in all its a great result and hopefully the cob webbs shook off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Can I say some of the play designs should be tweaked depending on teams. Leaving a gap for a player to run through hoping your rb gets to the outside before the lb/dl gets through the gap is insane. Even more so against a team with mack on it


  • Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    Ah look - its week 1..... always gonna be a slow start! But the defense came to play from the start! Yes Mitch had a poor game - but he had some good spells but couldn't close it out! Defensively we really did look solid - there was a few lapses... some gaps in coverage but that will improve.

    its important that we went 1-0 - and 5 out of the next 6 games at home - the offense improves - the defense improves.. all signs point up!

    I was massively disappointed in the run game last night - considering that that is what they have been working on all summer... just seemed very static and in no way explosive or effective!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭digzy


    Thing the o line had a bit of a mare. Bears oline give Trubisky much better protection. Rodgers wasn’t great but he wasn’t allowed express himself.

    Wouldn’t fancy tony brown at cb either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    digzy wrote: »
    Thing the o line had a bit of a mare. Bears oline give Trubisky much better protection. Rodgers wasn’t great but he wasn’t allowed express himself.

    Wouldn’t fancy tony brown at cb either.

    Strong argument that that Bears D line will be the best they face all year imo. Mack and Hicks are unplayable when they line up on the same side


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    What kind of a game was that,last evening.

    Offense exploded in Q1 and then got shut down

    Defense won the game again.

    Puzzling game of fingertip misses by the Packers and connections by the Vikes.

    A win is a win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    At least our defence is humming.


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    Strange strange game. After the first quarter, I thought...the Pack is back. By the end of the game, I was back to pessimism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Strange strange game. After the first quarter, I thought...the Pack is back. By the end of the game, I was back to pessimism.

    No, no need, this was a game of inches.

    All the good rolls seemed to go to the Vikes, both by good play and luck.

    Big play down the middle to MVS...separated from the ball after he caught it.

    Jaiere let’s one slip through his hands twice.

    Geronimo fumble after a good catch

    Cousins connects with Beebe with his back on the ground.

    Thielen catches one between two Packers in the end zone...great catch .

    Botched snap gives it back to the Vikes


    Have faith....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    3-0

    It a good start.

    Watched the Broncs game last night and while the offense sputtered, the defense was great.

    Rogers was not stellar, but functionable, seemed a bit disgruntled a lot of the time and the Packers seemed unable to sustain a long drive.

    If I had criticisms they would be.

    Learn how to fuhherking tackle, wrap up the dude and bring him down.

    Don’t give up big third downs, gave up two big ones at vital times yesterday.

    A stop on either would have made things much more manageable.

    How many time has a Packer receiver been dispossessed after catching the ball?

    Protect the fuhherking rock.

    Stellar performance from JK Scott, the linebackers, Jaiere,

    Good from Jamal, Davante, MVS.

    Where was

    Jimmy G.... flying a helicopter or something.

    Why in the name of fuhherke do the Packers not use TEs for down the middle stuff.

    Randall Cobb missed for sure.....

    Over.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    Can't argue with too much of that.

    It's great to have a defence again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭digzy


    If graham is injured, why play him?
    King had a horror show too.

    Badly need a slot receiver.


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    It just doesn't feel like a 3-0 start. Then again, they've had a 13-0 start that ended up in the first postseason game so guess one can never tell...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭cosatron


    It just doesn't feel like a 3-0 start. Then again, they've had a 13-0 start that ended up in the first postseason game so guess one can never tell...

    cause we are so used to the defence costing us games we don't know how to react with a good defence. I know the offence is out of kilter but I like what lefluer is trying to do as in keep Rodgers upright, throw the ball away when's nothing on and used your check downs and a good splash of run plays. when it all comes together, I think we will have a very good team. I think gutekunst did outstanding work with the 2 smiths and amos.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭Blut2


    The defense is looking great. The offense hasn't fully clicked yet, but they've still got time - especially given the current 3-0 record. I'm cautiously optimistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Blut2 wrote: »
    The defense is looking great. The offense hasn't fully clicked yet, but they've still got time - especially given the current 3-0 record. I'm cautiously optimistic.

    They need a dude who can catch balls on the ‘concrete’. Up the middle where the big boys operate.Where a lad can get hurt.

    Unless they get a dude who can do that, it’s playing on the ‘water’ out beyond the numbers and there will be limited chances.

    Needs to be addressed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Been missing one really since jermichael finlay, we had the raiders te and he was doing it but we let him go for Graham, that isn't working out the best


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Been missing one really since jermichael finlay, we had the raiders te and he was doing it but we let him go for Graham, that isn't working out the best

    For sure, agree with that observation.

    I had high hopes for Jimmy G this season, unfortunately not realised.

    Packer just seem to fohherke up every time the try to get a TE,both experienced veterans and draft picks.

    You need a big durable unit who can take the hits on the concrete.

    It adds a totally new dimension to the offense.

    The Jace Sternberger dude needs to buckle up real soon.

    Eagles will be dangerous on Thur night, Allshon is fit, fcukers like that have done us down in the past.

    Need to get to Wentz, hurry/sack him, can’t let him bounce around and pick us apart.

    So.....(as Jaire might say:D)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    If our defence can keep strong it gives a great chance for our offence to get going. The eagles are conceeding a lot of points in games so hopefully that continues. We've come up against three very good defences in the opening games and the eagles probably the weaker than all three so it will be interesting to see how our offence goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    Blut2 wrote: »
    The defense is looking great. The offense hasn't fully clicked yet, but they've still got time - especially given the current 3-0 record. I'm cautiously optimistic.

    You should be - the Broncos are better than their 0-3 record - and the Broncos defence is still trying to gel in Fangio's new scheme. The Pack defence looked good and the offence did what was needed against a defence currently focused on containment rather than attack. The game swung on Rodgers taking advantage of an offsides and hitting the TD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Packers cleaned out by the Eagles.

    Poor display, no run D, no run O,

    Too many passengers, bad play calling, slow labored tempo, mistakes, drops.

    Not a good night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭digzy


    We’ve really been exposed in terms of the run defense.
    How the offense couldn’t score from 1 foot out over 4 downs......loosing Williams early killed us. The run went nowhere for us.

    Zeke will be relishing tearing through us next week. Though if we can sort out the defense rushing we might be ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    The packers literally swapped having a run defence for having a pass defence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    digzy wrote: »
    We’ve really been exposed in terms of the run defense.
    How the offense couldn’t score from 1 foot out over 4 downs......loosing Williams early killed us. The run went nowhere for us.

    Zeke will be relishing tearing through us next week. Though if we can sort out the defense rushing we might be ok

    A lot of questions need to be answered in the next few days.

    Why was the run game totally shut down.

    Why could Phl run through us like a knife through cheese

    What about the injuries to Bulaga,Devante,Jamaal,all important cogs in the offense.

    I haven’t seen the 40’ on GP yet but four passes from the one!!
    And nothing from them.

    Even on offense passing Phl seemed to have far more open, wide open players than the Packers could manage on their offense.

    To be honest, I am not optimistic


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Have felt our run defense has been poor for a while now. Even last season it seemed a lot of teams would convert 3rd downs if they went for a run. The amount of yards Lindsay and Cook put up was a sign of what was to come.

    The 4 plays without one run near the end of the game that we failed to convert was shocking. Surely a run would have got us in with 4 cracks at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭Blut2


    I'd love to know what the odds are on 4 runs, all made from the 1 yard line, all not converting are. Because I can only imagine that statistically that would have been the right sequence of plays to run from that position...

    That was pretty painful to watch though. Rodgers playing well is a bright spot, though, as usual I guess?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭pedatron


    A great win but another strange one. Defense played lights out in the first half and Jones had a game of a lifetime. Felt we got lucky on some calls but the refs also made some shocking calls for both teams. That roughing the passer call towards the end of the game was a joke. Barely grazes Daks helmet with a hand, Dak goes on a good run and then they put the foul on the play too. Weird. The cameras are fixated on Rodgers and Le Fleur after each punt or field goal almost waiting for a big bust-up between them. Badly missing someone like Cobb back in the team.

    Still, it's 4-1 so you have to be happy with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    pedatron wrote: »
    A great win but another strange one. Defense played lights out in the first half and Jones had a game of a lifetime. Felt we got lucky on some calls but the refs also made some shocking calls for both teams. That roughing the passer call towards the end of the game was a joke. Barely grazes Daks helmet with a hand, Dak goes on a good run and then they put the foul on the play too. Weird. The cameras are fixated on Rodgers and Le Fleur after each punt or field goal almost waiting for a big bust-up between them. Badly missing someone like Cobb back in the team.

    Still, it's 4-1 so you have to be happy with that.

    Sad to say I can remember Pack being 17-0 up in a long ago game, Cowboys Qb -Aikman, I think, goes down and his back up ..guess who Jason Garrett comes in and leads the Boys to a 36 - 33 or something win.

    Thought that one was coming back to haunt me.!!!:eek:

    Terrific display for almost three quarters....but... in the end quite lucky to get the win after all the Dallas kicker missed two very kickable FGs.

    But I won’t be picky... great win.. unexpected without 17

    After the Eagles game I despaired in Aaron Jones but the guy really ran downhill yesterday, carried the load, and put me back in my box!!

    O-line obviously brushed up on their blocking for the runner .

    Would have liked not to have leaked so much towards the last qr. and allowed such big plays,but that’s just being a bit picky.

    Z Smith must keeps his paws out from under the opponents helmet, lost a few good gains and a recovery I think as a result.

    However more than made up in other aspects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Aaron Jones had a stormer. Hes really coming into his own. Hopefully he doesn't get injured from overuse.

    The last quarter was nervy, Dallas were very much in charge. A wins a win though.

    I also noticed the repeated/excessive close shots of Rodgers and Le Fleur's interactions, the producer was definitely hoping for a bust up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    A win in Dallas is always great. Career day for Jones (no, not you Jerry!). Defence came up with turnovers.

    There's just one question I have: why wasn't Dexter Williams playing? Carson went straight from the practice squad to backing up Jones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    A win in Dallas is always great. Career day for Jones (no, not you Jerry!). Defence came up with turnovers.

    There's just one question I have: why wasn't Dexter Williams playing? Carson went straight from the practice squad to backing up Jones.

    The word from Lombardi Ave is they don’t quite trust him yet, not familiar enough with the offense playbook.

    That’s what the pundits are saying.


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    Pherekydes wrote: »
    A win in Dallas is always great.

    Yep, TBH thought the Packers might be well beaten and the season could start to fall away. Instead I'm now thinking...maybe this group will make the playoffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    A win in Dallas is always great.

    Yep, TBH thought the Packers might be well beaten and the season could start to fall away. Instead I'm now thinking...maybe this group will make the playoffs.

    This is exactly what I was thinking. Thought we would be looking at 3-2 by the end of night last night. 4-1 now and you could say in control.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Yep, TBH thought the Packers might be well beaten and the season could start to fall away. Instead I'm now thinking...maybe this group will make the playoffs.
    Ye have control of the division now, and home advantage in the next Bears game. Long way to go but ye are in the driving seat and seem to be getting better on offense each week. Was really hoping for that Rodgers/LaFleur blowout. Have a feeling if it was going to happen, it won't when they're 4-1...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Ye have control of the division now, and home advantage in the next Bears game. Long way to go but ye are in the driving seat and seem to be getting better on offense each week. Was really hoping for that Rodgers/LaFleur blowout. Have a feeling if it was going to happen, it won't when they're 4-1...

    Hmmm.. At times they looked a bit testy with each other yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Hmmm.. At times they looked a bit testy with each other yesterday.

    Yeah, but I think that is going to happen in any situation like that. AR has a lot of power in the organisation, so there's always going to be a bit of tension with the HC, the only question is if they can still be productive with it. Winning has a way of keeping the lid on those kinds of problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    The cameras are over hyping it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,731 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Is it just me, or why do I think the Lions might topple the Pack on Monday night.

    Stafford seems to love clocking the Pack, has being doing that recently.

    Key to the W..... crease Stafford, do not let the dude get his feet set and cut us up.

    He is an underrated QB ,durable, not afraid to take the hit.

    Packers need to pressure the guy, from moment one, hammer in and disrupt.

    Big night upcoming for the Packers D, they will win or lose it for us, in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Detroit look impressive this year. Potentially the toughest division in the league. All 4 teams are very strong and could beat any team in the league on their day. Patricia is doing a fine job there.

    If we can come away 3-0 against the division rivals after 6 games then you have to be over the moon with that. It's going to be a tough ask though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭digzy


    What’s the story with the ‘tiffs’ that are shown between Rodgers and le fleur?
    Any time there’s a 3 & out especially towards the end of a game, Rodgers is walking off letting off steam with le fleur trotting behind trying to appease him...... or at least that’s what it looks like to me


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭cosatron


    digzy wrote: »
    What’s the story with the ‘tiffs’ that are shown between Rodgers and le fleur?
    Any time there’s a 3 & out especially towards the end of a game, Rodgers is walking off letting off steam with le fleur trotting behind trying to appease him...... or at least that’s what it looks like to me

    I think when after the offence comes off the field, pettine takes the role of head coach while leFleur and Rodgers go through the previous series and talk about what adjustments to make etc. A positive example of this is Rodgers was on to leFleur to keep running the ball against dallas.
    To be 4-1 with a new head coach playing a more balanced type of offensive football is great, the defence can be iffy at times, I think we can thank some bone head play calling in the dallas game, how they didn't run the ball more in the first half was beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    digzy wrote: »
    What’s the story with the ‘tiffs’ that are shown between Rodgers and le fleur?
    Any time there’s a 3 & out especially towards the end of a game, Rodgers is walking off letting off steam with le fleur trotting behind trying to appease him...... or at least that’s what it looks like to me

    The cameras want drama


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭Blut2


    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/aaron-rodgers-has-been-magic-in-the-first-quarter-and-a-pumpkin-in-the-fourth/

    Good article here on Rodgers' up and down performances to date this season. It basically goes into great detail on how hes been playing like the best QB in the league in Q1, but one of the worst in Q4, so far this year. And that the defense has been keeping the Packers alive in games in the second half.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭peejay1986


    Blut2 wrote: »
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/aaron-rodgers-has-been-magic-in-the-first-quarter-and-a-pumpkin-in-the-fourth/

    Good article here on Rodgers' up and down performances to date this season. It basically goes into great detail on how hes been playing like the best QB in the league in Q1, but one of the worst in Q4, so far this year. And that the defense has been keeping the Packers alive in games in the second half.

    Interesting yes. I do feel that once we go off the script, we begin to struggle on offense. I think it will come. It's all about learning what this offense is good and not so good at.


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