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Ashling Thompson case

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Allinall wrote: »
    Words can be provocative.

    They have this new fancy thing called a court, this is where such defenses can be offered. No such defense was offered, however I suspect you already know this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭lukin


    I am from Cork and I celebrated wildly when Cork won the camogie All-Ireland's that Aishling Thompson was part of but she is an utter disgrace in my opinion.
    I wouldn't defend her for a second. Some Cork people have been defending her and the same people probably wanted Diarmuid Connolly hung, drawn and quartered when he decked that fella in the pub.
    The double standards make me sick. Thompson is an out and out thug and a lot of other stuff has come to light about her in the last few months. She viciously assaulted an opposition player off the ball while playing for her club but got away with it because the ref didn't see it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Water John wrote: »
    Wouldn't comment on her in other threads, until the case was dealt with.
    Yeah she's a very good looking and talented girl who has had issues in her life.
    AFAIK she wouldn't be popular with her team mates which is one indicator. Certainly has anger issues and refs find her difficult. She does need to do a serious rethink and reset of her attitude esp for her own benefit.

    I wish her well.
    What? Why? And it's hilarious the way people are saying "she's good looking" as if that's a mitigating factor. One person said "fair enough, she's good looking" - and? That has zero relevance.

    This is the kinda thing that leads to the double standard, but it ain't women propagating it.
    dotsman wrote: »
    And thanks to guys like you, even pug-ugly skangers can get the lovin too :D

    She looks like a man, dressed in drag
    Ah that's too much the other way.

    But her behaviour was appalling, that's all there is to it. And now her attitude stinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Lot of stupid ***** in the country, no offence. If you play football/hurling/camogie you can do no wrong in the eyes of the judge. (I play football still)

    Btw I have sat in corporate hospitality the last 2 days in Croker. Sickening status is given to GAA players above all else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭someyoke


    Just reading in Today's paper an interview with this girl.

    I don't get it. Maybe I missed it but not once in the interview does she apologise for the assault but only talks about how it affected her.

    She endured nothing from what I can see. Once she's paid the 6 grand it's forgotten about.

    Nothing against the girl and I hope she gets on with her life but she only talks about how it has affected her.
    Thoughts.

    No wonder were ****ed as a society

    Says more about media in Ireland and the Independent group in particular than society in general. Complete rag, worshiping and glorifying D list Irish celebs and people like property developers and chefs as if they are doing something important or beneficial to society. I wouldn't eat my chips put of it.....

    Key point is media still help shape society's behaviour and attitudes. the fact that we're at the point of repeatedly printing this drivel on once reputable news outlets is reflective of society as a whole. Why, cause people are buying it and lapping up this sh1t.

    Media in ireland are just taking lead from uk as we tend to do with broadcasting generally. Still haven't stooped to daily mail levels but we're getting there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    AT has a good bit of sympathy for herself in the interview, complains that there wasn’t ‘protection’ for her, that there would be more for men. This is someone who committed two assaults! Delusional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,576 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    I wonder how long til we see her in front of a judge again. Says so much about today's Ireland: It's all about me and the effect on me. To hell with the victim.
    Pity she didn't think about her victims mental health when her elbow hit her jaw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    lukin wrote: »
    I am from Cork and I celebrated wildly when Cork won the camogie All-Ireland's that Aishling Thompson was part of but she is an utter disgrace in my opinion.
    I wouldn't defend her for a second. Some Cork people have been defending her and the same people probably wanted Diarmuid Connolly hung, drawn and quartered when he decked that fella in the pub.
    The double standards make me sick. Thompson is an out and out thug and a lot of other stuff has come to light about her in the last few months. She viciously assaulted an opposition player off the ball while playing for her club but got away with it because the ref didn't see it.
    .....

    Our justice system is such a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,839 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    GoneHome wrote: »
    I have relations living in the same village as her, they say she has an unreal reputation there, rough as f~~k is the phrase that was used

    My girlfriend plays camogie with her in that village and says that she’s sound. Great hurler and fairly ‘powerful’ on the pitch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    she needs to learn discipline, respect for herself and ithers and realise that playing gaa doesnt make you any more special than anyone else


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    callaway92 wrote: »
    My girlfriend plays camogie with her in that village and says that she’s sound. Great hurler and fairly ‘powerful’ on the pitch.


    Quite possibly. But does that excuse abhorrent behaviour, as in assaulting two girls in one night?
    No, it doesn't.
    Be a decent human being should be the rule.
    She failed that night.
    Should she get a second chance?
    Most definitely. I wish her well. But make adjustments in your life to stop a repeat of the incident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,839 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Quite possibly. But does that excuse abhorrent behaviour, as in assaulting two girls in one night?
    No, it doesn't.
    Be a decent human being should be the rule.
    She failed that night.
    Should she get a second chance?
    Most definitely. I wish her well. But make adjustments in your life to stop a repeat of the incident.

    No it doesn’t excuse anything - I was just giving a more first-hand look at how she’s liked locally rather than what the poster I quoted said


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭1o059k7ewrqj3n


    Ashling Thompson comes from a long tradition in this country of people whose reprehensible behaviour was overlooked because they were good at sports - now that's not to say that the interview she gave was exactly as she gave it, as editors have a habit of picking what they want, regardless of what you said - but overall the focus is the same.

    I know of one particular former GAA county player who kicked the f**k out of an innocent party (was actually the wrong person) because it suited him and was not even charged for it, and is now plying his trade as a "journalist".

    To be fair, it's not just the GAA players that get away with it, have heard of Rugby heads also getting away scot free from similar circumstances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    AT has a good bit of sympathy for herself in the interview, complains that there wasn’t ‘protection’ for her, that there would be more for men. This is someone who committed two assaults! Delusional.

    Yeah, playing the gender card was the icing on the cake.
    An astonishing piece of drivel that article, but no surprise from the middle-class, 'celebrity' loving rag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    Steyr 556 wrote: »
    Ashling Thompson comes from a long tradition in this country of people whose reprehensible behaviour was overlooked because they were good at sports - now that's not to say that the interview she gave was exactly as she gave it, as editors have a habit of picking what they want, regardless of what you said - but overall the focus is the same.

    I know of one particular former GAA county player who kicked the f**k out of an innocent party (was actually the wrong person) because it suited him and was not even charged for it, and is now plying his trade as a "journalist".

    To be fair, it's not just the GAA players that get away with it, have heard of Rugby heads also getting away scot free from similar circumstances.

    Pissing on someone is indicative of rugby values apparently.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭Whereisgalway


    “For me, not training would be like a diabetic not taking their insulin.”

    if you don’t train because you are sick or injured you will be the better for it. A diabetic who doesn’t take insulin will DIE
    Aisling Thompson should try spend a day in a person with diabetics shoes instead of lookijg for sympathy. She should apologise


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭CorkFenian


    Read the article as was at home in rural ireland, have to say she got terrible advice for both the main picture and everything associated with the article...If i was involved with the families assaulted would be really angry and disappointed

    Her only income is sponsorship and she lost all her main sponsors bar one....I agree with a different poster she only uses mental health platform when it suits her unfortunately in a country where ignorance of mental health issues are rife she is able to get away with it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    CorkFenian wrote: »
    Read the article as was at home in rural ireland, have to say she got terrible advice for both the main picture and everything associated with the article...If i was involved with the families assaulted would be really angry and disappointed

    Her only income is sponsorship and she lost all her main sponsors bar one....I agree with a different poster she only uses mental health platform when it suits her unfortunately in a country where ignorance of mental health issues are rife she is able to get away with it

    She is part of the commodification/commercialisation of mental health by self-important celebrities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,155 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    “For me, not training would be like a diabetic not taking their insulin.”

    if you don’t train because you are sick or injured you will be the better for it. A diabetic who doesn’t take insulin will DIE
    Aisling Thompson should try spend a day in a person with diabetics shoes instead of lookijg for sympathy. She should apologise

    Did she actually say that ? How dare she . I saw a programme on RTE about a child who is Type 1 diabetic and the daily struggles her mam has to control her level . My god what an ignorant woman to spout nonsense like that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    What did the GAA (Edit: sorry, Camogie Association) do to penalise her for her actions, seeing as the court let her off scot-free?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,170 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    i just read the snippet from the front of the paywall but did i read correctly the "journalist" implied the victims may not have deserved the compensation from thompson?


    sic "ordered to pay 6000 to make the charges disappear even though the injuries didn't warrant serious medical attention."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    She's not a member of the GAA. Really does need to reevaluate herself. Maybe like Roy Keane and take up Yoga. Not sure heading for Aus is any help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    i just read the snippet from the front of the paywall but did i read correctly the "journalist" implied the victims may not have deserved the compensation from thompson?


    sic "ordered to pay 6000 to make the charges disappear even though the injuries didn't warrant serious medical attention."

    Only surprise is Niamh Horan didnt write that article.


  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


    Odelay wrote: »
    Her tats look terrible.

    I think she’s a bit rough


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    terrydel wrote: »
    She is part of the commodification/commercialisation of mental health by self-important celebrities.
    I have to say that thought struck me too, again there wasn't much concern about the mental health of the victims.
    What sponsor stuck with her?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Odelay wrote: »
    Her tats look terrible.

    She'd choke you and you'd love it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    She's choke you and you'd love it.

    Not quite sure the lady in question would prefer your company.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Not quite sure the lady in question would prefer your company.

    It's generally easier to not assume people's sexual preferences.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    It's generally easier to not assume people's sexual preferences.

    At what point did I refer to her sexual preference. I referred to YOUR company. How would I know what sex you are?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    At what point did I refer to her sexual preference. I referred to YOUR company. How would I know what sex you are?

    You're assuming my preference for one. I said she'd choke him and he'd love it. Didn't say I'd be into it myself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Water John wrote: »
    Not sure heading for Aus is any help.

    she could take out her inner rage by taking up Aussie Rules.....the most violent field sport in the world, suit her down to the ground


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    If she was a footballer or rugby player you'd hear all about it, but because she plays de gah at an "Amateur" level and talks about her mental health this has gotten way less publicity than it should have because she's perceived as a "role model".
    Sweet suffering Jesus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭CorkFenian


    RedBull , this article was only carried out 2 weeks ago

    i don't really understand her billing as this celebrity sportsperson, very few people would know her, why is she getting front page covers, shes easy on the eye I sense a really good publicist at play here :)

    https://www.redbull.com/ie-en/ashling-thompson-s-training-regime-revealed-red-bull


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    If she was a footballer or rugby player you'd hear all about it, but because she plays de gah at an "Amateur" level and talks about her mental health this has gotten way less publicity than it should have because she's perceived as a "role model".
    Sweet suffering Jesus.

    A rugby player pissed on someone in a nightclub recently, the same night another knocked a fellow player out.
    The media almost completely ignored it.
    Rugby is the biggest media darling in this country, as its the sport of the media classes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,153 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    terrydel wrote: »
    A rugby player pissed on someone in a nightclub recently, the same night another knocked a fellow player out.
    The media almost completely ignored it.
    Rugby is the biggest media darling in this country, as its the sport of the media classes.

    I have no interest in rugby and I heard about the above events in the media.
    It most certainly was reported on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭skallywag


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    What did the GAA do to penalise her for her actions, seeing as the court let her off scot-free?

    Not sure how the GAA would be dishing out any penalties, what connections has she with them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭johnb25


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    What did the GAA do to penalise her for her actions, seeing as the court let her off scot-free?

    Nothing to do with the GAA or Camogie Association.
    This happened in a night-club, not on the playing field.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    I have no interest in rugby and I heard about the above events in the media.
    It most certainly was reported on.

    The manner of what reporting there was, was benign to say the least.
    It was very uncritical given the nature of the offence. Had it been a soccer or gaa player I'd be fairly certain it would have been different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,153 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    terrydel wrote: »
    The manner of what reporting there was, was benign to say the least.
    It was very uncritical given the nature of the offence. Had it been a soccer or gaa player I'd be fairly certain it would have been different.

    Ffs. How do you benignly report that one rugby player pissed on someone and another rugby player knocked someone out?
    You mean it didn't specifically point out that these are bad things??
    Must have been lots of confused readers/listeners :confused:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭Marty Xavier


    Another mental health celebrity. Make sure to talk about it or you might lash out sometime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    johnb25 wrote: »
    Nothing to do with the GAA or Camogie Association.
    This happened in a night-club, not on the playing field.

    Really? Sports governing bodies never sanction well known players for criminal behaviour off the pitch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭skallywag


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Really? Sports governing bodies never sanction well known players for criminal behaviour off the pitch?

    Well for starters she has no connection with the GAA whatsoever.

    She plays camogie, which is not governed by the GAA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,305 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    skallywag wrote: »
    Well for starters she has no connection with the GAA whatsoever.

    She plays camogie, which is not governed by the GAA.
    Of course the GAA are involved in camogie.

    http://www.camogie.ie/about-camogie.asp
    As per there own website
    The Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA), as the governing body for men's Gaelic Games and as the community base of Gaelic Games, is of huge importance to Camogie, from club to national level. Its ongoing support, through the generous provision of facilities, finance and other resources, is key to the well being of Camogie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭skallywag


    gmisk wrote: »
    Of course the GAA are involved in camogie.

    There are strong connections but the GAA have no say in the day to day operations and certainly not with sanctioning players etc.

    They have their own structures in place for such matters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭Marty Xavier


    Which are? not sure of any GAA player that has been sanctioned by the GAA for criminal behaviour or assault in recent years off the pitch?

    Certain high profile Dublin footballer battered a mate , ex Waterford hurler now pundit glassed someone, Tipp scumbag who glassed someone in the UK, Tyrone footballer involved with minor etc??


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    What does she do outside of playing camogie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭chuck eastwood


    terrydel wrote: »
    A rugby player pissed on someone in a nightclub recently, the same night another knocked a fellow player out.
    The media almost completely ignored it.
    Rugby is the biggest media darling in this country, as its the sport of the media classes.

    Nonsense. It was all over twitter within 30 mins. Online media the next morning and print within two day's. The difference is it was a man who who wont model when he finishes playing.

    She had never been any different and admitted as much on the late late show two years ago. Trouble follows her and she follows trouble. If it was a man he would be ripped to shreds. An attractive albeit trash female she gets away with anything. The photos were a paid shoot taken by a photographer used by the sindo. She's just not nice person, bit of lipstick won't change that


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    She is beautiful...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    How long before she is crying on the Late Late crying or that new Bressie podcast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    sasta le wrote: »
    What does she do outside of playing camogie?

    MMA?


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