Philadelphia Eagles Thread

Cassius Easy Burglar wrote: »

so who do ye think is the better reciever desean or maclin

Maclin is a better all round receiver but obviously DeSean is a bigger threat. Tbh Maclin needs to cut out the mental errors this year. He has the talent to be a legit top 10 receiver but he hasn't really done it yet. I'll give him a pass for last year (he was fine but not awesome) as he had that illness but this year is a big one for him.

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Michael Vick's took another big hit last night against the Pats, last night x-ray was clear, but he's having further MRi-CT scans later today. The guy just seems to hang on to the ball way too long at times. At 32, he ain't getting any younger and his injuries are just going to get more serious if he keeps doing it. Just wondering what you Eagles fans think.

There was a play a few plays before he got hit where he went running and diving head first for a first down jesus man it's preseason - don't be looking to get hit would ya

It's always going to be a worry having a rushing QB like Vick and especially seeing as he gets injured so much. You want to be able to say you'll have your same starting QB for all 16 regular season games and throughout the playoffs - As an Eagles fan that just seems far too much to ask with Vick at the reigns. It's a real pity as he's such a great dual threat QB. It's great that he can run and is such a real threat when he does but at this stage I see him start a run and I'm just willing him to slide and take the yards before getting hit because inevitably he's going to get injured sooner or later.

Typically though the play he did get hit on wasn't due to him rushing at all but was a good pass rush and hit him as he was releasing the ball. Can't remember who it was that hit him but it was a big hit and would shake up a lot of guys. And in Vick's case of course that's going to mean a good chance he's going to get injured because he is fragile compared to a lot of other QB's in the league. Which once again comes back to the point - god damn it man slide rather than risk the big hit when you go running - every defensive player on the field is going to knock you into next week. And to add to it as you pointed out he seems to hate the idea of throwing the ball away until there's a couple of big D-Line men throwing him into the turf.

Fole did look good last night though which is a good sign at least so we have some options for those couple of weeks when Vick is going to be out injured unless by some divine intervention he manages to avoid getting injured this season (he might take my advice :pac: and go out of his way to not get hit or something)

Vick is probably going to get injured - it's a pain in the arse but we've got to deal with it and hope that whenever he's out we can cope and scrapes wins. Just the way it is being an Eagles fan unless Vick goes out and radically changes his playing style - but from seeing the diving head first for a first down last night I have no great hope of seeing that this year tbh.

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Typically though the play he did get hit on wasn't due to him rushing at all but was a good pass rush and hit him as he was releasing the ball. Can't remember who it was that hit him but it was a big hit and would shake up a lot of guys..

Jermaine Cunningham made the hit, if was a big hit but clean. kinda ironic alright that Vicks did seem to be going to ground to protect himself for once and he still gets injured. But he was living dangerously before that.

Cassius Easy Burglar wrote: »

3rd behind vick and Kafka although he may be second after the last 2 games

If he keeps playing the way he did last night and if Vicks is out, I'd start the guy.

I'm sad to say it but I really don't see Philly coming close to the superbowl this year. I just think Vick's frailties will just come back to haunt them. I know it's great having a mobile quarterback but it's ludicrous when you see vick put his body on the line by trying to scramble for 2 or 3 needless yards. He's been blitzed with injuries down the years and that surely wouldn't help for all the time he gets hit. The loss of Peters makes things much worse and neither King Dunlap or Bell looks like they would be fit to shine Peters' shoes.

In fairness to the Eagles, you can't really say that they are weak in any position. Sure you can say safety but it really isn't a majority important position especially when you have 2 quality CBs. They should be able to lift their games with the talent around them.

I hope so much I'm wrong but I think the eagles will be a 10-6, 11-5 team and may win one play-off game but that's it. If I'm wrong and they do get any further please feel free to tell me cause I'll be delighted!

Someone needs to tell michael vick that he isn't Jim Brown.

Nick Foles got the start last night in the 27-10 win over the browns and played well.

Poor stuff from Vick. I watched the game again and the o-line actually wasn't as bad as i thought they were. Some of the holding calls were a joke. Vick had numerous chances to just go and take a 6-8 yard scramble but instead threw across his body. Ridic tbh, i get that he doesn't want to get injured but then learn to SLIDE!!! I worry that this is a huge missed op for this team. We've so much talent but i'm far from convinced that Vick is the answer...

one brightspot for me was the play of our linebackers. Pretty sure we won't have to worry about them again.

I'd put some money on Andy being gone after this year and Gruden taking over. He's a huge fan of foles and it's actually set up for a Gruden special.

Thoughts on this weekends game lads? Rewatched last weeks shambles yesterday... the o-line was actually a lot better than i thought. Vick was worse than i thought, which was tough because I thought he was muck! Big thing this week is cutting out the penalties... cant do that against the Ravens.

Well that was shocking boys and girls... we were exposed pretty badly.

1) the D are good. They weren't awful today, just got beat a few times by a Larry Fitz with a chip on his shoulder. They still got tons of pressure. The cards didn't beat us cause our D sucked.

2) the beat us because Andy Reid still cannot call plays. McCoy and Brown looked to have some lanes on cutbacks, we could have taken advantage of that in the 1st half but instead we just pass and pass and pass. That would be fine if we had Tom Brady back there but we don't. We have a qb who can't read a blitz and can't hit his checkdown receiver. He fires the ball 90million miles an hour constantly, regardless of the situation. It's tough to over throw Desaun and he managed to twice... if Vick can't even hit the deep ball now then whats the point of him... he's not the same athlete he was and regardless the linebackers coming out of college these days can match him.

3) it's a shame but this talented team (and it is a very talented team) is being wasted... Vick out, Reid out (although i'd love Reid to be our GM, just not our head coach!!)

also i'd like to point out that i think Reid has done a good job at Philly during his tenure but sometimes it's just time. His was about 2 years ago...

Pyjamarama wrote: »

That loss is on the entire team... every player and the coaches. Shocking play calling, shocking execution, stupid decisions.. just not good enough.

Well Vick needs to ****ing realise that getting hit like that will catch up with you later in the season. Bad performance all around. That O-line is a disaster zone. Andy Reid went from one extreme to the other with TO. He had all three left on the board. The D was found out tonight late on. Nnamdi has lost his aura IMO.

Well ya that's what I meant the aura that he carried from the raiders is gone. He is a good cb but teams aren't not throwing to him. Shady had 14 carries for 22yrds!!!! I mean Jesus imagine if he had an anyway decent O-line in front of him.

And the centre and Vick need to be welded together this week. I know he is a rookie but he has been gotten the snaps with the first team offense in practice for three weeks. Brent celek needs to remember that catching the ball is an important part of football. I'm angry but not suprised.