2020/2021 Premier League Injuries and Suspensions

Shedite27 · 18-11-2020 4:44pm

CSF wrote: »

I’m no expert but doesn’t that put him at real risk for next Saturday morning also?

It'd be hard to hold him if that true. Especially with City's fixtures turning, would be:
Salah: Blank Blank WOL
KDB/Sterling: tot BUR FUL

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/11/mohamed-salah-returns-third-positive-covid-19-test-to-miss-leicester-clash/

The No. 11 could also miss Wednesday night’s Champions League clash with Atalanta, and will be considered a doubt for the trip to Brighton the following Saturday.

alchemist33 · 18-11-2020 4:47pm

Plus as he's definitely positive, he might actually be sick. It's a sell for me

ThunbergsAreGo · 18-11-2020 5:04pm

Shedite27 wrote: »

It'd be hard to hold him if that true. Especially with City's fixtures turning, would be:
Salah: Blank Blank WOL
KDB/Sterling: tot BUR FUL

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/11/mohamed-salah-returns-third-positive-covid-19-test-to-miss-leicester-clash/

I had already taken a minus as was sick of my team but even with a minus 4 Salah to KDB seems very easy

Muahahaha · 18-11-2020 5:25pm

Think I'll have to take a -4 too, bad enough Im struggling to field a full team but Salah our for 2 PL games with no certainty on his return is a disaster

CSF · 18-11-2020 7:14pm

Fairly sure I'll be moving him out too, but will wait til Saturday morning incase we get new information about him and others.

18-11-2020 7:34pm

Does the 2nd positive mean he has to remain in Egypt, if thats the case would miss more training? COuld mean he misses a few weeks especially if sick.

But im not sure if thats the case?

Cartman78 · 18-11-2020 9:03pm

I see Chillwell on the bench for England so presumably he’s ok

Robertson starts for Scotland as well so again would assume he’ll be fit for weekend

dr.kenneth noisewater · 18-11-2020 9:25pm

Deleted User wrote:

Does the 2nd positive mean he has to remain in Egypt, if thats the case would miss more training? COuld mean he misses a few weeks especially if sick.

Deleted User wrote:

But im not sure if thats the case?

Can't leave Egypt until he tests negative and next test is Monday. Not sure what the story is when he gets back to UK then

CSF · 18-11-2020 10:14pm

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Can't leave Egypt until he tests negative and next test is Monday. Not sure what the story is when he gets back to UK then

Where did you hear the Monday thing? I thought Liverpool would nearly be testing him hourly to get him back at the earliest

The Phantom Jipper · 19-11-2020 2:36pm

I'm also confused by the Salah situation. My reading of it is that a positive test requires 10 days quarantine. If he had a positive test on the 18th, that would make him eligible to play (assuming a negative test result in the interim) on the 28th which is the day of the Brighton game, or even the 29th if the 18th doesn't count as the first day of quarantine.

If the above is accurate, he'd surely be unlikely to play the Brighton game on his first day back. Am I missing anything with this?

Muahahaha · 19-11-2020 4:19pm

The latest is he had a second positive test yesterday and that he cannot leave Egypt until he tests negative. His next test is on Monday which will be his 10th day of isolation. If it is negative he can leave Egypt.

Arsenals Mohammed Elneny (also Egyptian) has tested positive too as has Kolsinac

Cartman78 · 19-11-2020 4:20pm

Henderson rumoured to be out for this weekend as well.

Probably doesn't directly affect FPL but might make Liverpool assets less appealing imho

Muahahaha · 19-11-2020 4:33pm

The Liverpool team is falling apart at the seams, TAA is out for a month with his calf and Hendo has a groin problem

Shedite27 · 24-11-2020 10:35am

Just on the Zaha news, Hodgson said that his positive test was last Monday, and they were hopeful he would make the game last night. They're still hopeful he'll make Newcastle on Friday.

Pity Hodgson didn't tell us at his press conference.

Roy Hodgson has revealed that Wilfried Zaha’s positive Covid-19 test came “closer to the start of last week” – with the forward facing a race to be able to return for their next Premier League game against Newcastle United.

The date of the test is crucial to knowing whether the forward will be available for the Eagles’ fixture against the Magpies on Friday.

Government guidelines insist that individuals who test positive should self-isolate for a 10-day period. Further Premier League rules state that a negative test should be returned before players and staff can begin training or playing again.

If Zaha tested positive on Monday or Tuesday last week, he could be in line to play against Newcastle providing that he tests negative beforehand. Any later and his chances of featuring will be cast into further doubt.

Hodgson said: “We’ve known about it for a few days. I can’t remember exactly when it was now, it was towards the start of last week that we’ve known about it.

“We didn’t want to go out and broadcast it to the world because we were hoping that a second test might have allowed him to play.

“He’s had to self-isolate and I’ve had to wait for that test to hopefully free him. He’s not particularly unwell, it’s just that he failed a test.”

Ace2007 · 24-11-2020 11:16am

Government guidelines insist that individuals who test positive should self-isolate for a 10-day period. Further Premier League rules state that a negative test should be returned before players and staff can begin training or playing again.

By that logic Salah shouldn't be in training, but the PL seem to allowing players to train/play once they test negative, be that on day 1 or day 11 after the positive test. It really is a mess - instead of a strict policy we probably have players taking tests at all hours of the day hoping for that negative result.

With all the false positives, you would also imagine that once test positive, that they need at least two negative tests before they can train/play.

Fitz* · 24-11-2020 11:27am

Salah tested negative on Sunday. He then returned to training on Monday, in what looked like a solo session.

I doubt there was too much team training going on after a Sunday night game.

Irishphotodesk · 24-11-2020 2:28pm

Fitz* wrote: »

Salah tested negative on Sunday. He then returned to training on Monday, in what looked like a solo session.

I doubt there was too much team training going on after a Sunday night game.

If Liverpool have any cop on they will play a reserves team for champions league and let players get some bit of a rest.

Irishphotodesk · 24-11-2020 2:34pm

Ace2007 wrote: »

Government guidelines insist that individuals who test positive should self-isolate for a 10-day period. Further Premier League rules state that a negative test should be returned before players and staff can begin training or playing again.

By that logic Salah shouldn't be in training, but the PL seem to allowing players to train/play once they test negative, be that on day 1 or day 11 after the positive test. It really is a mess - instead of a strict policy we probably have players taking tests at all hours of the day hoping for that negative result.

With all the false positives, you would also imagine that once test positive, that they need at least two negative tests before they can train/play.

Ace, playing devils advocate here ... but I’m sure Liverpool would argue that those restrictions for positive results apply for tests taken in the UK/England and not a different jurisdiction.... therefore salahs uk test shows negative and he is available for selection.

I have seen too many legals in my line of work to think of how they could interpret the rules to suit themselves, doesn’t matter if it’s obvious or written in simple English, rules/laws/recommendations can all be interpreted differently depending on what you want them to say.

Fitz* · 24-11-2020 2:37pm

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

If Liverpool have any cop on they will play a reserves team for champions league and let players get some bit of a rest.

I think that's the eventual plan. But have to guarantee qualification first. The rotation options are still very light.

CBs there is the known issues. Matip will start but I think Williams will play so Fabinho gets a bit of a rest. I think Robbo will also get rested.

I'd prefer Gini to be rested, but I'm not sure the bodies are there at the moment to allow this. Jones, Milner & Gini are the only known fit midfielders currently.

I'd say Mane, Bobby & Jota will get a rest too. Maybe all coming off of the bench though. I think Salah will start tomorrow night though, after the 10 days off. Get that match sharpness back to top level before Brighton at the weekend.

dsmythy · 24-11-2020 4:50pm

Maybe I'm just conservative but Liverpool resting too many could have them in a group with 2 teams right behind them. I see only Mane maybe not playing. 3 others can be subbed off if they can get ahead.

Ace2007 · 24-11-2020 4:59pm

dsmythy wrote: »

Maybe I'm just conservative but Liverpool resting too many could have them in a group with 2 teams right behind them. I see only Mane maybe not playing. 3 others can be subbed off if they can get ahead.

It would be sorta funny if one of the big named players (like Robbo, Jota or Mane) wasn't in the squad and no explanation given - then you would be worried for the weekend.

Fitz* · 24-11-2020 6:22pm

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

If Liverpool have any cop on they will play a reserves team for champions league and let players get some bit of a rest.

Further more to my post earlier, Firmino didn't train today so he probably won't be playing.

There were 16 outfield players that trained, of which 4 are teenagers and 1 is yet to play a meaningful game.

Scorpion Sting · 26-11-2020 3:09pm

Zaha out.

https://twitter.com/FFScout/status/1331954075689230337

Roy Hodgson wrote:

"No, he wont be in contention for this [Friday], he has still got to serve out the period of isolation. That would take him to Saturday, when he'll be tested again. He's been feeling OK."

Nick Pope a major doubt for Burnley.

https://twitter.com/FFScout/status/1331957506604732417

Sean Dyche confirms that Nick Pope is unlikely to play against Manchester City after receiving a blow to the head in Monday’s victory over Crystal Palace.

Shedite27 · 26-11-2020 3:15pm

Lucas Digne picked up a "serious training ground ankle injury" according to Ben Dinnery

Father Hernandez · 26-11-2020 3:20pm

Zaha injured at least allows us to plan.

Think I'll be taking a hit.

Ace2007 · 26-11-2020 3:31pm

It's interesting though that Palace are saying that he has to self isolate until Saturday at which point he will be tested again, but in Salah's case they tested him the day he touched down, got a negative and he's back training.

is it a case that because Zaha came up positive in the PL round of testing that the protocol has to be followed, 10 days self isolation - followed by test of set day, whereas if your test positive from anther source in Salah's case, that they only need a negative taken whenever they like to be allowed to play?

eh i dunno · 26-11-2020 3:57pm

Shedite27 wrote: »

Lucas Digne picked up a "serious training ground ankle injury" according to Ben Dinnery

Out for two months

Dearg81 · 26-11-2020 4:03pm

Ace2007 wrote: »

It's interesting though that Palace are saying that he has to self isolate until Saturday at which point he will be tested again, but in Salah's case they tested him the day he touched down, got a negative and he's back training.

is it a case that because Zaha came up positive in the PL round of testing that the protocol has to be followed, 10 days self isolation - followed by test of set day, whereas if your test positive from anther source in Salah's case, that they only need a negative taken whenever they like to be allowed to play?

Salah tested positive on Fri 13th so he did his 10 days.

Shedite27 · 26-11-2020 4:03pm

eh i dunno wrote: »

Out for two months

And just rose in price last night

manual_man · 26-11-2020 4:26pm

Digne injury lessens DCL prospects somewhat. They have some tricky fixtures coming up anyway, but Dignes deliveries will be missed.

Dearg81 · 26-11-2020 5:41pm

manual_man wrote: »

Digne injury lessens DCL prospects somewhat. They have some tricky fixtures coming up anyway, but Dignes deliveries will be missed.

I was just thinking the same. I'm probably the only person in here who doesn't have DCL so not sure about him now with the fixtures and this injury.

Irishphotodesk · 26-11-2020 5:51pm

Dearg81 wrote: »

I was just thinking the same. I'm probably the only person in here who doesn't have DCL so not sure about him now with the fixtures and this injury.

Some people had a similar thought process when richarlison was suspended and Rodriguez was injured , but DCL manages to somehow get points.

It is logic to think that his supply should be lessened but ... I'm sure everton will factor this in when training this week,

Personally I'm in a bit of a panic, took Salah out and now thinking I may need a bit to reverse the decision....or move other players about the place, I also have zaha and Jorginho in my team so... Not entirely happy with my points returns recently.

CSF · 26-11-2020 6:04pm

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

Some people had a similar thought process when richarlison was suspended and Rodriguez was injured , but DCL manages to somehow get points.

It is logic to think that his supply should be lessened but ... I'm sure everton will factor this in when training this week,

Personally I'm in a bit of a panic, took Salah out and now thinking I may need a bit to reverse the decision....or other players about the place, I also have zaha and Jorginho in my team so... Not entirely happy with my points returns recently.

His stats were affected though. His output was affected too, but he still had some output too. If Digne being out affects his underlying stats then there really is a big risk that this time he will regress closer to the mean.

Irishphotodesk · 26-11-2020 7:42pm

CSF wrote: »

His stats were affected though. His output was affected too, but he still had some output too. If Digne being out affects his underlying stats then there really is a big risk that this time he will regress closer to the mean.

The same logic could also apply to vardy ... When the court case is mentioned he may not be 100% focused on his performance....I don't know his underlying stats for performances prior to or after each of his children's births or previous court appearances (if he has had any or has appeared in support of anyone at court)

Dr. Bre · 26-11-2020 8:47pm

Any word on castagne ?

Shedite27 · 26-11-2020 9:07pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Any word on castagne ?

Looked this up today in the Leicester Mercury

While Ndidi, Timothy Castagne (hamstring), Caglar Soyuncu (adductor) and Ricardo Pereira (knee) will not feature in Thursday’s Europa League tie in Braga, Rodgers did give updates on the quartet during his press conference ahead of the match.

“Timothy hasn’t travelled, so we’re just monitoring him over the course of this week to see where he’s at before the game on Monday (against Fulham),” said Rodgers.

“Wilf is progressing really well, so we’ll see the possibility of him when we play in Ukraine, so that’ll be great news.

“Cags, he's a bit further down the line, but we’ll see where he’s at in the next few weeks.

“They’re progressing really well, but none of them are obviously here to play.”

Ricardo made his first outing in City colours in eight months on Monday as he represented the Under-23s in their 2-1 win over West Ham.

Now he’s back on the pitch, he will require a few weeks to build his match fitness given the length of time he has been on the sidelines.

CSF · 26-11-2020 9:17pm

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

The same logic could also apply to vardy ... When the court case is mentioned he may not be 100% focused on his performance....I don't know his underlying stats for performances prior to or after each of his children's births or previous court appearances (if he has had any or has appeared in support of anyone at court)

I can’t argue this with statistics but I do suspect losing one of your key source of assists probably has a greater impact on FPL returns than your wife suing someone for libel.

manual_man · 26-11-2020 10:02pm

Correct me if i'm wrong but i seem to remember Vardy going on a run of form the last time his missus was in the news for the wrong reasons. The lad seems to thrive in adversity

Shanotheslayer · 27-11-2020 10:56am

For those that didn't know

Digne out.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/12143169/lucas-digne-everton-left-back-to-undergo-surgery-after-suffering-ankle-ligament-injury

Irishphotodesk · 27-11-2020 11:09am

manual_man wrote: »

Correct me if i'm wrong but i seem to remember Vardy going on a run of form the last time his missus was in the news for the wrong reasons. The lad seems to thrive in adversity

No pressure now, but he is now...in my team and captained !

Fitz* · 27-11-2020 12:04pm

ASM out this week too.

https://twitter.com/CraigHope_DM/status/1332278164438003713?s=19

F1ngers · 27-11-2020 3:45pm

Ings on the way back - targeting Brighton game.

Irishphotodesk · 27-11-2020 4:05pm

F1ngers wrote: »

Ings on the way back - targeting Brighton game.

Does he go straight back in, or will Walcott be moved.

Shedite27 · 27-11-2020 6:10pm

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

Does he go straight back in, or will Walcott be moved.

Definetly

Scorpion Sting · 30-11-2020 10:29am

Get well soon Raúl.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1333339893406310401

Shedite27 · 30-11-2020 11:15am

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

Get well soon Raúl.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1333339893406310401

That's a fairly long term one isn't it? Wolves continue to surprise me with new players they seem to find from nowhere, but Raul was always the one that you'd worry about replace. He gets an awful lot of their goals.

Shanotheslayer · 30-11-2020 11:36am

Shedite27 wrote: »

That's a fairly long term one isn't it? Wolves continue to surprise me with new players they seem to find from nowhere, but Raul was always the one that you'd worry about replace. He gets an awful lot of their goals.

They find them from Portugal mate. Going the Algarve on their holibops and picking up footballers :pac:

siblers · 30-11-2020 11:47am

Shedite27 wrote: »

That's a fairly long term one isn't it? Wolves continue to surprise me with new players they seem to find from nowhere, but Raul was always the one that you'd worry about replace. He gets an awful lot of their goals.

He might have to retire. Joe Mason had to retire after fracturing his skull

Edit

Ryan Mason

Shedite27 · 30-11-2020 12:14pm

siblers wrote: »

He might have to retire. Joe Mason had to retire after fracturing his skull

Ryan Mason, I though his had a lot of complications tho. Cech fractured his skull too and played (albeit with the scrum cap). Are there any other footballers that have done it?

Pogue eile · 30-11-2020 12:27pm

Shedite27 wrote: »

Ryan Mason, I though his had a lot of complications tho. Cech fractured his skull too and played (albeit with the scrum cap). Are there any other footballers that have done it?

Was listening to a very interesting podcast last week where a leading medical expert was saying that those scrum caps are actually a huge negative for outfield players and rugby players - his logic being that you are doing damage to the skull but that because of the scrum cap you don't realise it at the time and that it can manifest itself in later life.

2020/2021 Premier League Injuries and Suspensions

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