Extinction Rebellion Ireland

Plumbthedepths · 12-10-2019 11:41am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Just in case anyone is wondering i didn’t go to the camp this morn. For 3 reasons

Kids were not overly interested
Rugby match is on
I was told by my buddy at the camp they were in clean up and take down mode and not much to be gained by dropping in this morning when they’d be busy

More interested in this extensive research you carried out that suggests reintroducing Wolves to the Irish countryside is viable. Care to share that ?

20Cent · 12-10-2019 11:43am

cnocbui wrote: »

In that case, the government should just take everyone's money from them and buy the things they think people should have. People are innately irresponsible and selfish and shouldn't be allowed to act with free will.

Bit extreme.
We regulate the treatment of animals and won't allow meat produced in certain ways be sold. Why not do similar with other products made by humans. Hardly radical.

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 11:50am

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

More interested in this extensive research you carried out that suggests reintroducing Wolves to the Irish countryside is viable. Care to share that ?

The main threat from wolves would be livestock like sheep and lambs. But i’m guessing he thinks it’s not a bad idea because in his own little imaginary world thinks that meat will be banned because of climate change in the near future so it won’t be a problem having wolves running around the place, just a guess mind you.

weldoninhio · 12-10-2019 11:53am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Just in case anyone is wondering i didn’t go to the camp this morn. For 3 reasons

Kids were not overly interested
Rugby match is on
I was told by my buddy at the camp they were in clean up and take down mode and not much to be gained by dropping in this morning when they’d be busy

Strange that they’re still advertising things for all day today and tomorrow. You’re a proven spoofer at this stage.

Plumbthedepths · 12-10-2019 11:55am

Micky 32 wrote: »

The main threat from wolves would be livestock like sheep and lambs. But i’m guessing he thinks it’s not a bad idea because in his own little imaginary world thinks that meat will be banned because of climate change in the near future so it won’t be a problem having wolves running around the place, just a guess mind you.

Sadly we won't know if you are correct or not as Beech keeps dodging the question I asked of him. As I said I believe he is just a clueless wind up merchant.

Beechwoodspark · 12-10-2019 11:55am

weldoninhio wrote: »

Strange that they’re still advertising things for all day today and tomorrow. You’re a proven spoofer at this stage.

Might head in later or else tomorr if that’s the case.

Beechwoodspark · 12-10-2019 11:57am

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

More interested in this extensive research you carried out that suggests reintroducing Wolves to the Irish countryside is viable. Care to share that ?

I have done loads of personal research. My thoughts/plan is a network of connected national parks stretching from just south of dublin in a vague semi circle all to way to Kerry. Connection “corridors” linking them. That would be easily enough space and room to roam for a pack of say 10 wolves.

We need secure fencing to mark the boundaries of the park. This would include concrete below the fence line to stop wolves digging out from below. And of course some sort of nets to stop ppl throwing in food trying to attract the wolves. That wouldn’t end well

How to “gain territory”- compulsory purchase orders. Ppl can live in the park once they have adequate fencing and roads in and out. I personally would love to live in it. Populate with native flora and fauna. Once it has good WiFi comms I could work from home in the middle of tranquil idyllic wilderness.

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 12:01pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I have done loads of personal research. My thoughts/plan is a network of connected national parks stretching from just south of dublin in a vague semi circle all to way to Kerry. Connection “corridors” linking them. That would be easily enough space and room to roam for a pack of say 10 wolves.

Now. We need secure fencing to mark the boundaries of the park. This would include concrete below the fence line to stop wolves digging out from below. And of course some sort of nets to stop ppl throwing in food trying to attract the wolves. That wouldn’t end well

How to “gain territory”- compulsory purchase orders. Ppl can live in the park once they have adequate fencing and roads in and out.

Don’t get me wrong Wolves are a fine fine animal. I have been up close and personal to a tame one that liked to be petted like a normal dog, but what about the threat to livestock, farmers living?

Beechwoodspark · 12-10-2019 12:02pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

Don’t get me wrong Wolves are a fine fine animal. I have been up close and personal to a tame one that liked to be petted like a normal dog, but what about the threat to livestock, farmers living?

No livestock in the park obviously. Compulsory purchase orders to take over the small amount of farms required.

uchimata83 · 12-10-2019 12:03pm

What about the environmental impact of fabricating the fence and digging up that earth and pouring the concrete?

Was going to go along today but someone took the village car to the pub and left it there overnight.

Plumbthedepths · 12-10-2019 12:04pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I have done loads of personal research. My thoughts/plan is a network of connected national parks stretching from just south of dublin in a vague semi circle all to way to Kerry. Connection “corridors” linking them. That would be easily enough space and room to roam for a pack of say 10 wolves.

We need secure fencing to mark the boundaries of the park. This would include concrete below the fence line to stop wolves digging out from below. And of course some sort of nets to stop ppl throwing in food trying to attract the wolves. That wouldn’t end well

How to “gain territory”- compulsory purchase orders. Ppl can live in the park once they have adequate fencing and roads in and out. I personally would love to live in it. Populate with native flora and fauna. Once it has good WiFi comms I could work from home in the middle of tranquil idyllic wilderness.

Thanks for confirming you're an absolute spoofer. Hilarious that your 'research' would come at an enormous financial and environmental cost.
Your employer is blessed to have such an intelligent individual on their payroll. ;-)

Beechwoodspark · 12-10-2019 12:05pm

UPDATE - whatsapped my friend - he meant he personally was leaving the camp this morn.

As other posters have alerted - there is a programme of activities for the full wkend so I might mosey down tomorro.

uchimata83 · 12-10-2019 12:05pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Thanks for confirming you're an absolute spoofer. Hilarious that your 'research' would come at an enormous financial and environmental cost.
Your employer is blessed to have such an intelligent individual on their payroll. ;-)

Employer - good one

Beechwoodspark · 12-10-2019 12:05pm

uchimata83 wrote: »

What about the environmental impact of fabricating the fence and digging up that earth and pouring the concrete?

Was going to go along today but someone took the village car to the pub and left it there overnight.

Eco fencing is available.

Beechwoodspark · 12-10-2019 12:06pm

For anyone not with the programme. Eamon Ryan the leader of the greens wants wolves in Ireland. I happen to want it too. It’s a legitimate policy option.

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 12:06pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

No livestock in the park obviously. Compulsory purchase orders to take over the small amount of farms required.

I remember some years ago in the buy and sell magazine i used to see Wolf cubs for sale, there’s probably a small tame population of them in this country somewhere.

Plumbthedepths · 12-10-2019 12:07pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

For anyone not with the programme. Eamon Ryan the leader of the greens wants wolves in Ireland. I happen to want it too. It’s a legitimate policy option.

I hope Eammon doubles down and repeats that madness in the middle of an election campaign, people need to be reminded what kind of idiots populate the Green party.

Thelonious Monk · 12-10-2019 12:10pm

We will never have wolves here but George Monbiot did a great Ted Talk on the reintroduction of wolves to Yellowstone park and the positive impact they had on the ecosystem ultimately causing rivers to bend. Ireland has been sterilised a long time by farming and human habitat now so there's no point even thinking about it. We cant even build a bus lane ffs never mind CPOing farmers land.

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 12:11pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I hope Eammon doubles down and repeats that madness in the middle of an election campaign, people need to be reminded what kind of idiots populate the Green party.

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Lol i think he got a backlash over that and has geen apologising since lmao

I love the “when i’m in charge “ bit lol

cnocbui · 12-10-2019 12:51pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

How to “gain territory”- compulsory purchase orders. Ppl can live in the park once they have adequate fencing and roads in and out. I personally would love to live in it. Populate with native flora and fauna. Once it has good WiFi comms I could work from home in the middle of tranquil idyllic wilderness.

Glad to see you approve of one-off rural housing and spending money on rural infrastructure, like fiber-to-the-home. Too many urban environmentalists are anti.

mgn · 12-10-2019 2:26pm

Ryan has always being a fool, but since this so called green wave he really shows how big a clueless idiot he really is .The man has no clue along with a few more posters on this thread what happens outside Dublin, living in their own little fantasy world.

Del.Monte · 12-10-2019 2:55pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

For anyone not with the programme. Eamon Ryan the leader of the greens wants wolves in Ireland. I happen to want it too. It’s a legitimate policy option.

But it's a massive red herring in the context of the Extinction Rebellion and is being used by Climate Change deniers to drag this thread off topic.

Plumbthedepths · 12-10-2019 2:56pm

Listening to the radio a few moments ago. The newscaster made reference to a comment by Eammon Ryan during the week . This guy is clueless.Ryan suggested a village with 300 people should ideally share 30 cars between. Idiotic suggestions like this is more reason to keep this clown away from a position of power and influence.

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 3:01pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Listening to the radio a few moments ago. The newscaster made reference to a comment by Eammon Ryan during the week . This guy is clueless.Ryan suggested a village with 300 people should ideally share 30 cars between. Idiotic suggestions like this is more reason to keep this clown away from a position of power and influence.

... and when he got the huge backlash he pretended to be sorry and apologised lol

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 3:07pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

But it's a massive red herring in the context of the Extinction Rebellion and is being used by Climate Change deniers to drag this thread off topic.

Who is going off topic? To be honest the thread should be locked because it’s just going around in circles.

The bottom line is, the hypocritical ER won’t get anywhere and planes, trains and automobiles will be around for longtime into the future so they need to get used to it.

20Cent · 12-10-2019 3:15pm

Could someone post up a link or something to where ER want to ban planes, trains etc or is it just being made up?

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 3:17pm

20Cent wrote: »

Could someone post up a link or something to where ER want to ban planes, trains etc or is it just being made up?

Oh come of it that’s their main objective. Someone already posted that they want it done by 2025 planes grounded, idiots.

20Cent · 12-10-2019 3:19pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

Oh come of it that’s their main objective. Someone already posted that they want it done by 2025 planes grounded, idiots.

So no then.
There is enough to be outraged about without making stuff up surely.

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 3:20pm

20Cent wrote: »

So no then.
There is enough to be outraged about without making stuff up surely.

Did you not see the moron that delayed a flight?

So what exactly do you think they want?

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 3:23pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_Rebellion

Check out number 2 on their manifesto list.

Thelonious Monk · 12-10-2019 3:24pm

Maybe to keep the aviation industry in check and for it not to keep growing exponentially? Anyone with 2 brain cells knows flying isn't going anywhere.

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 3:25pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Maybe to keep the aviation industry in check and for it not to keep growing exponentially? Anyone with 2 brain cells knows flying isn't going anywhere.

Well it’s obvious ER members only have 1 cell with their zero carbon by 2025 lol

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 3:27pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Maybe to keep the aviation industry in check and for it not to keep growing exponentially? Anyone with 2 brain cells knows flying isn't going anywhere.

Aviation is big business so there will be no “ keep in check” lol

Thelonious Monk · 12-10-2019 3:27pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

Well it’s obvious ER members only have 1 cell with their zero carbon by 2025 lol

Yes so there's no point in taking their stupid manifesto seriously.

Plumbthedepths · 12-10-2019 3:28pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Anyone with 2 brain cells knows flying isn't going anywhere.

What???

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 3:28pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes so there's no point in taking their stupid manifesto seriously.

I was aiming at the person who claimed i was making it up what they wanted lol

Thelonious Monk · 12-10-2019 3:29pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

What???

Just the one brain cell then?

20Cent · 12-10-2019 3:39pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_Rebellion

Check out number 2 on their manifesto list.

No mention of banning transport.
Made up.

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 3:40pm

20Cent wrote: »

No mention of banning transport.
Made up.

Lol, so what does zero carbon mean by 2025?

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 3:41pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Just the one brain cell then?

Yeah between them all lol

20Cent · 12-10-2019 3:48pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

Lol, so what does zero carbon mean by 2025?

Use sustainable clean energy sources and offset omissions planting trees and other environmental investments.

Plumbthedepths · 12-10-2019 3:50pm

20Cent wrote: »

No mention of banning transport.
Made up.

So how will transportation meet Zero carbon in 6 years. Do you think the founders of ER are playing with a full deck?

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 3:50pm

20Cent wrote: »

Use sustainable clean energy sources and offset omissions planting trees and other environmental investments.

That’s reducing emissions, they want zero by 2025. The only way to achieve that is ground all planes and stop using ice cars. They are deluded.

20Cent · 12-10-2019 3:57pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

That’s reducing emissions, they want zero by 2025. The only way to achieve that is ground all planes and stop using ice cars. They are deluded.

What's an ice car?

Being ambitious is a good thing. European governments have pledged to do it by 2050.

Micky 32 · 12-10-2019 4:02pm

20Cent wrote: »

What's an ice car?

Being ambitious is a good thing. European governments have pledged to do it by 2050.

Internal combustion engine , we all know about government pledges and promises.

20Cent · 12-10-2019 4:12pm

History is full of examples where the human spirit ingenuity, hard work and intellectual powers achieved things thought impossible.

mgn · 12-10-2019 4:18pm

20Cent wrote: »

What's an ice car?

A cool car.

pburns · 12-10-2019 4:24pm

20Cent wrote: »

History is full of examples where the human spirit ingenuity, hard work and intellectual powers achieved things thought impossible.

There are also examples where the seemingly 'inevitable' turned out to be impossible, impractical or implausible e.g flying cars, supersonic travel for the masses.

Wanderer78 · 12-10-2019 4:28pm

pburns wrote:

There are also examples where the seemingly 'inevitable' turned out to be impossible, impractical or implausible e.g flying cars, supersonic travel for the masses.

But at least we tried, and made some discoveries along the way

cnocbui · 12-10-2019 4:31pm

20Cent wrote: »

History is full of examples where the human spirit ingenuity, hard work and intellectual powers achieved things thought impossible.

I'm nominating you to head the next crack at commercial hydrogen fusion power generation.

Extinction Rebellion Ireland

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