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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    Well its clear then that your information is wrong. I sat and read through the entire legislation after your post about trade within the EU. There is no extra duty, or VAT to be paid on anything that is bought within the EU that has had its duty and VAT paid in the country of origin so long as it is for personal use. There are only 3 exceptions to this rule, they are for motor vehicles, alcohol and tobacco. There is no limit to the amount of fuel being brought in from the UK so long as it is ONLY for personal use.

    It doesnt matter what things you may have heard of in the past, hearsay is all it is.

    It is very odd that you have nothing to base your opinion on other than hearsay and gossip, yet when I tell you I have phoned the Revenue specifically to find out if there were any restrictions in place, you do not believe me and think the Revenue is wrong. You would almost think you sold fuel in the ROI and are trying to put people off doing it.

    "Traveling with your purchases

    From another EU Member State

    There are no limits on what private people can buy and take with them when they travel between EU countries, as long as the products purchased are for personal use and not for resale, with exception of new means of transport (for example, a car). VAT is included in the price of the product in the member state and no further payment of taxes including VAT can be charged here in Ireland.

    However, special rules apply in the case of goods subject to excise duty, such as alcoholic beverages and tobacco products. The Revenue Commissioners have published information for travellers arriving in Ireland from member states of the European Union."

    Your know it all aggressive attitude is pathetic. in both cases you were only offered advice.
    Revenue investigators have detected a rise in the number of residents here bringing in 1,000 litres at a time for private use.
    Users have been warned that they do not have a personal duty-free allowance to allow them to bring in oil from another EU state.
    A person taking oil across the Border from the North must notify the local revenue office and pay taxes, including the carbon tax, on the oil.
    A spokesperson for Customs and Revenue this week explained this week that there is currently no prohibition on the importation of kerosene into the State from Northern Ireland. However, the application of a reduced rate in Mineral Oil Tax means oil must be marked with a declaration to that effect provided upon importation into the State.

    Oil properly marked in accordance with the regulations is €38.02 per thousand litres, while oil not marked the tax applicable is €479.02 per thousand litres. Any kerosene illegally imported into the State is liable to forfeiture along with the conveyance used to transport the oil.

    http://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2012/03/07/4009412-rising-heating-costs-prompt-cross-border-oil-rush

    The reason I politely suggested ringing again was because i have a relative who works there and was surprised to see the answer you received. I contacted them, got the answer and thats why i suggested you ring again. The reason i mentioned the dye was because it immediately identifies it as not being Irish.

    But hey you run along and keep doing what your doing I am sure you will be able to tell the customs what you are doing is all above board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    racso1975 wrote: »
    Your know it all aggressive attitude is pathetic. in both cases you were only offered advice.



    http://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2012/03/07/4009412-rising-heating-costs-prompt-cross-border-oil-rush

    The reason I politely suggested ringing again was because i have a relative who works there and was surprised to see the answer you received. I contacted them, got the answer and thats why i suggested you ring again. The reason i mentioned the dye was because it immediately identifies it as not being Irish.

    But hey you run along and keep doing what your doing I am sure you will be able to tell the customs what you are doing is all above board.

    Actually my attitude is not pathetic, keep your silly childish immature insults to yourself.

    I just phoned Revenue again and the person there said "yeah there is no provision for bringing oil across personally" and when I questioned what legislation covers this, and asked for more details they could not find it. I then quoted what it says on their own website about no duty or taxes on any items brought by yourself bought in the EU for personal use except for motor vehicles, tobacco and alcohol. I explained I want to read something specifically stating if I can or cannot bring in oil for my own use, as their website clears appears to state I can bring it in for my own use.

    After 10 minutes waiting for them to find something, they took my number and will call me back as they need time to find the information.

    Im not expecting every member of staff in the Customs department to know every bit of legislation, but if its not clear on their website for even their own staff to find, how can it be easy for the average layman to do the same.

    Only a few months ago I had several people in here talking about having to pay income tax on gambling,the Revenue were saying all manner of things contradicting each other every time I phoned them. SO eventually, sick of it, I arranged an interview with them and I took in all manner of documents to back up my theory that as gambling is tax free in Ireland, the winnings should not be declarable income. They couldnt find anything to oppose my view, and after some back and forth with their legal department in Dublin to seek advice, they provided me with a letter stating that.

    I hope Im correct and I believe I am, but Im also happy to accept my view on the matter is wrong so long as it can be shown to me in legislation. The new stories you wrote are are from 2011 and 2012, historic, as I previously mentioned. There was a few changes in the Customs act 2014 which may or may not have relaxed the state of affairs.

    I have bought thousands of litres of oil from Cullaville over the last few years. driven right down the motorway with it on a proper double bunded fuel bowser, and also even in an IBC strapped onto a normal double axel trailer, which most certainly doesnt comply with the safety regulations of transporting mineral oils.

    All I seek is absolute clarity on this matter, its really not about winning an argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,307 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    All I seek is absolute clarity on this matter, its really not about winning an argument.
    Earlier you were stating it as a fact that home heating oil could be brought across the border duty free and now you are looking for clarity.

    When you find it (the legislation) post up a link and we can all congratulate you then. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    muffler wrote: »
    Earlier you were stating it as a fact that home heating oil could be brought across the border duty free and now you are looking for clarity.

    When you find it (the legislation) post up a link and we can all congratulate you then. :)

    Get your point in context. I was basing my opinion on advice provided by Revenue. If I phone them and they say "Yes you can bring it as long as its in a proper tank and for personal use only" then why would I have had any reason to doubt that information.

    In my last post I said I want absolute clarity based upon the fact that the other poster stated he also phoned Revenue who said something different. That is why I require clarity.

    Im not seeking congratulations, I will be buying it in the North regardless of whether its legal or not, I couldn't give a flying fcuk about the law, only about getting caught. Other people will only want to do it if its 100% legal and above board.

    If it turns out that Ireland has yet again made up some nasty little rule to fleece its populous, as they have done with VRT, then I will simply be a bit more covert, rather than blatantly driving about with a fuel bowser attached to my vehicle thinking it was permitted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 418 ✭✭SeamusFX


    I would assume since we are all supposed to be part of the EU with open boarders and all, that it shouldn't be illegal to transport fuel from one member state to another and the only regulation you should need to worry about is the maximum quantity of fuel you are licensed to transport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GSBellew


    I asked a customs man the question the other day & was told there was no personal allowance to speak of & you are only allowed an emergency supply.

    However reading on the revenue website would suggest that once you accompany it, the duty has been paid & it's for your own use its fine.

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/customs/leaflets/pn1878.html

    It's different if it's unaccompanied, ie delivered to you by an out of state supplier

    See here:

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/leaflets/pn1879.html

    My original understanding was that it was fine from a taxation point of view but where you fell foul was to do with the transportation of the actual kerosene.

    I'd be curious to get a definitive answer, but if I happened to be buying any I think I'd keep a copy of the first link printed in the glovebox to reference if stopped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭spongbob


    Lads and laddies
    In relation to getting a delivery, I always ask the driver to flush out the pipe after he pumps the delivery.

    I was thought by my manager in a car main dealership

    When we took delivery of expensive motor engine oil say 1000 liters at an average of 5 euro a liter

    The amount of potential litres left in the pipe would be worth a few hundred euro!

    Some drivers claimed that there is always oil in the pipe from the last customer drop off. But really this could not have been true.

    The trucks that deliver the motor oil, would be often carrying 2 different specs of oil and using only 1 pipe. We regularly took in 500 liters of 10w40 and 500 liters of 5w30 ect.

    So there was noway the driver was going to leave the product in the pipe. And take a chance that the next customer would be getting the same product, if you follow me.

    So back with the home heating Oil. Be sure to ask the delivery guy to blow out the pipe when it clocks to your required delivery amount. The product is better off in your tank that the oil companies and especially when your paying for it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    But you wouldn't be paying for whats in the pipe, if you order 500 lts kerosene then 500 litrs should be in the tank no? Are you saying that 500 litres leaves the truck and thats whats marked via the delivery docket with weights and measures, and there is still some oil of that 500 litres sitting in the hose when it should be in your tank ???

    if it is what you are saying it could be fraudulent no? If you buy 500 then thats what you should get - in your tank.
    spongbob wrote: »
    Lads and laddies
    In relation to getting a delivery, I always ask the driver to flush out the pipe after he pumps the delivery.

    I was thought by my manager in a car main dealership

    When we took delivery of expensive motor engine oil say 1000 liters at an average of 5 euro a liter

    The amount of potential litres left in the pipe would be worth a few hundred euro!

    Some drivers claimed that there is always oil in the pipe from the last customer drop off. But really this could not have been true.

    The trucks that deliver the motor oil, would be often carrying 2 different specs of oil and using only 1 pipe. We regularly took in 500 liters of 10w40 and 500 liters of 5w30 ect.

    So there was noway the driver was going to leave the product in the pipe. And take a chance that the next customer would be getting the same product, if you follow me.

    So back with the home heating Oil. Be sure to ask the delivery guy to blow out the pipe when it clocks to your required delivery amount. The product is better off in your tank that the oil companies and especially when your paying for it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    What's the bargain ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,307 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    pa990 wrote: »
    What's the bargain ?
    Home heating oil promo code Topoil


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭spongbob


    I had first had experience when working in a main dealer garage and it was my job to see that the pipe was flushed out.. If motor oil cost 5euro a liter to the garage and there is 30 40 or 50 liters left in the pipe. That adds up to a couple of hundred euros.

    When then pipe is rolled back up into the lorry the contents can easily be cyfiled back into the tank.

    The suppliers that the company used at the time was a split storage tank. Carring different oils.


    vicwatson wrote: »
    But you wouldn't be paying for whats in the pipe, if you order 500 lts kerosene then 500 litrs should be in the tank no? Are you saying that 500 litres leaves the truck and thats whats marked via the delivery docket with weights and measures, and there is still some oil of that 500 litres sitting in the hose when it should be in your tank ???

    if it is what you are saying it could be fraudulent no? If you buy 500 then thats what you should get - in your tank.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    spongbob wrote: »
    Lads and laddies
    In relation to getting a delivery, I always ask the driver to flush out the pipe after he pumps the delivery.

    I was thought by my manager in a car main dealership

    When we took delivery of expensive motor engine oil say 1000 liters at an average of 5 euro a liter

    The amount of potential litres left in the pipe would be worth a few hundred euro!

    Some drivers claimed that there is always oil in the pipe from the last customer drop off. But really this could not have been true.

    The trucks that deliver the motor oil, would be often carrying 2 different specs of oil and using only 1 pipe. We regularly took in 500 liters of 10w40 and 500 liters of 5w30 ect.

    So there was noway the driver was going to leave the product in the pipe. And take a chance that the next customer would be getting the same product, if you follow me.

    So back with the home heating Oil. Be sure to ask the delivery guy to blow out the pipe when it clocks to your required delivery amount. The product is better off in your tank that the oil companies and especially when your paying for it
    Your manager was really pulling your leg. I delivered oil for years, the pipe is always full both before and after delivery. Normally 100 litres in pipe, if driver is changing to different oil for next customer he changes before the last 100litres of your delivery is out. You cannot drain the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭pm.


    Blankety wrote: »
    1000 liters kero was €360 10 days ago see it's €319 Now..... Where's it all gonna end... That was in derrynoose take it away in a bowser with all the risk that brings. 2 outfits there seem to be going toe to toe. Stiil a huge change since this time last year.

    Where did you see this ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭Blankety


    pm. wrote: »
    Where did you see this ??

    2 border sellers beside me J&P fuels derrynoose and Dandy's derrynoose were at that level last weekend. Cullavile crew are still higher than this. As mentioned I prefer J&P as there is always a chance of a tenner off and they are a bit more civil.
    That's a take it away in a bowser job....despite what is said by the armchair warriors, if customs stop you then at a minimum you'll be sweating for an hour along the road as they threaten to lift the bowser, contents and your vehicle.
    I heard of a retired detective loosing a bowser in the recent past.. But could be a rural legend rather than an urban one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    Blankety wrote: »
    2 border sellers beside me J&P fuels derrynoose and Dandy's derrynoose were at that level last weekend. Cullavile crew are still higher than this. As mentioned I prefer J&P as there is always a chance of a tenner off and they are a bit more civil.
    That's a take it away in a bowser job....despite what is said by the armchair warriors, if customs stop you then at a minimum you'll be sweating for an hour along the road as they threaten to lift the bowser, contents and your vehicle.
    I heard of a retired detective loosing a bowser in the recent past.. But could be a rural legend rather than an urban one.

    Mug post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭spongbob


    Of course you can drain the line. I have seen it done before. Where a driver was delivering a fill of prepaid online oil to a customer and got the house number mixed up. The customer left instructions to let him self in thtough the gates

    My neibhour that all his birthdays had come at once.. but not si, the driver flicked the switch and reversed the fill back onto the truck and was on his way to the right house



    MIKEKC wrote: »
    Your manager was really pulling your leg. I delivered oil for years, the pipe is always full both before and after delivery. Normally 100 litres in pipe, if driver is changing to different oil for next customer he changes before the last 100litres of your delivery is out. You cannot drain the line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭Blankety


    Mug post.

    I simply alerted people to the best price i can find for kerosene the whole idea of bargain alerts... You seem to take issue with this.

    I haven't the time to look at your posts in other forums but assume you one of these guys who gets a kick out of anoying folk online by trolling...... Sorry no rise here.... You can take your online bullying elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Topoilweb is still worth 15€ off


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    spongbob wrote: »
    Of course you can drain the line. I have seen it done before. Where a driver was delivering a fill of prepaid online oil to a customer and got the house number mixed up. The customer left instructions to let him self in thtough the gates

    My neibhour that all his birthdays had come at once.. but not si, the driver flicked the switch and reversed the fill back onto the truck and was on his way to the right house

    Yes the driver sucked the oil back out, but the line was still full. Ask a delivery driver. It wasn't as simple as flicking the switch,he had to check the meter to ensure he got the same amount back. He was lucky to be able to get the nozzle down into the tank. A lot of the older tanks have a small opening into which the nozzle wouldn't fit. After years of delivering I have seen it all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    muffler wrote: »
    Home heating oil promo code Topoil

    Hard to know with all the bickering


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    Topaz rang me yesterday on a cold call, probably have my number from loyalty card in their garages as Ive never ordered oil from them before.

    Doing 1000lts of kerosene for 430 and said will price match below that.

    I only filled up 2 weeks ago for 485e.

    Can call them back for that price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Furzy


    ^ Supersaver oil also doing €430. I just got my local supplier to price match.

    .... just read that crude oil prices jumped last night so looks like the price drop may have bottomed out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    Furzy wrote: »
    ^ Supersaver oil also doing €430. I just got my local supplier to price match.

    .... just read that crude oil prices jumped last night so looks like the price drop may have bottomed out!

    I wouldnt bet on it having bottomed out, most likely its due to speculation OPEC will cut supply. If the Saudis decide to weather the storm and continue to output as they are and apply more pressure on other countries, it could get worse. If everyone thinks its bottomed out, that means people rush out and buy creating an artificial market helping push the prices up and before you know it it will be up. The price is jumping up and down every hour, individual day increases shouldnt cause too much concern because it can just as easily drop back down.

    How much cheaper can it actually get anyway? Probably not much. I've been thinking of buying about 10,000 litres and storing it in the shed and getting some stabiliser stuff to extend the lifespan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭MIRMIR82


    The discount code Topoil15 no longer works, i think we can close this thread or re-name it as something else!


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭curranbaz


    MIRMIR82 wrote: »
    The discount code Topoil15 no longer works, i think we can close this thread or re-name it as something else!

    HEAT2016 (not case-sensitive) seems to still be working! Seems to be sliding scale discount depending on how much you order, i.e. €7.50 of 300 ltrs, €10 off 400, €12.50 off 500, etc.

    Still cheaper (just) to order off Supersaveroil for me. Here's hoping my supply lasts through the weekend as I've been holding off ordering the last few weeks with the prices dropping so steadily. Have probably saved about €40 playing this game of Russian oil roulette! :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    MIRMIR82 wrote: »
    The discount code Topoil15 no longer works, i think we can close this thread or re-name it as something else!

    Topoilweb is still worth 15€ off


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭Steven81


    MIRMIR82 wrote: »
    The discount code Topoil15 no longer works, i think we can close this thread or re-name it as something else!

    it is heat2016 to get the discount too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭spongbob


    I was thinking something similar. Can you PM we can chat more about what stabiliser is available. I have a couple of empty iBC tanks for use
    I wouldnt bet on it having bottomed out, most likely its due to speculation OPEC will cut supply. If the Saudis decide to weather the storm and continue to output as they are and apply more pressure on other countries, it could get worse. If everyone thinks its bottomed out, that means people rush out and buy creating an artificial market helping push the prices up and before you know it it will be up. The price is jumping up and down every hour, individual day increases shouldnt cause too much concern because it can just as easily drop back down.

    How much cheaper can it actually get anyway? Probably not much. I've been thinking of buying about 10,000 litres and storing it in the shed and getting some stabiliser stuff to extend the lifespan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭itsnotmyname


    Folks,
    I found the promo code, but where does it go ? ..I've gone through all the steps and cant find where .....:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Mad_Mike


    Folks,
    I found the promo code, but where does it go ? ..I've gone through all the steps and cant find where .....:confused:

    Select your area and click see prices, then on next page, on the left under My Order, underneath how many litres you want, click the blue + button with I have a promo code


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭spongbob


    A tad more expensive on today's prices

    500 liters 234... 225 last Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭corsav6


    spongbob wrote: »
    A tad more expensive on today's prices

    500 liters 234... 225 last Friday.

    And today it's 250 for 500lt.
    I started my order this morn at 222 euro and when I pressed next page the price jumped to 250 before I completed the order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭corsav6


    corsav6 wrote: »
    And today it's 250 for 500lt.
    I started my order this morn at 222 euro and when I pressed next page the price jumped to 250 before I completed the order.

    Just off the phone to the Castlebar depot and they honored the initial 222 price for me.
    I was speaking to a lad called Mark and he was very helpful and sorted it there and then. 500lts now ordered and 30 euro cheaper than anyone else in Mayo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭blowin3


    Is oil going to back up in price? I have half a thank so would invest if i thought prices were creeping up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    blowin3 wrote: »
    Is oil going to back up in price? I have half a thank so would invest if i thought prices were creeping up.

    It has went up a couple of cents in a few places for sure. Diesel also went up 1c too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Mad_Mike


    (WESTMEATH) €15 OFF 500 litres Promo Code TopOilWestmeath on www.top.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    Mad_Mike wrote: »
    (WESTMEATH) €15 OFF 500 litres Promo Code TopOilWestmeath on www.top.ie

    Seems to accept that code for a delivery anywhere....well carlow anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    racso1975 wrote: »
    Seems to accept that code for a delivery anywhere....well carlow anyway

    works for cork also


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭tom_tarbucket


    Did ye order 500 litres - if so what ye get it for ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    Did ye order 500 litres - if so what ye get it for ?

    think it was 224 or there abouts


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  • Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭blowin3


    racso1975 wrote: »
    think it was 224 or there abouts

    I got 500l yesterday for 227e.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭tom_tarbucket


    blowin3 wrote: »
    I got 500l yesterday for 227e.


    Grand. I just got 500 litres for 230. Not too bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    promo code: topoilweb

    Still working, €15 off 500L

    €210 for 500 kero in cork.

    Must check if my tank has room


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭sonandheir


    €222 for 500lts in Galway, thanks op.


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭Pigeon Chaser


    €222 for 500l in Ballina.

    Thanks OP


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭tom_tarbucket


    Anybody know of any company that gives out oil tank measuring dipsticks when you buy oil off them. I've searched on e bay etc and can't find where to buy one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭tommycahir


    Anybody know of any company that gives out oil tank measuring dipsticks when you buy oil off them. I've searched on e bay etc and can't find where to buy one.

    Why not just buy a brush handle and dip into tank, mark top with marker and then you know how much le by looking at it or if needing to be really precise by measuring it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    Depending on the weather their does be a dew/water line on the Tank showing the oil level aswell. Ya don't have to go near it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭loki7777


    I have bamboo stick from homebase with marked 100,200,300 and 500l- done at delivery:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    I'm probably being stupid but I can't see anywhere I can enter the promo code on the site, could anyone tell me please?


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