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Premiership Rugby 2019-20

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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Sean went off after 49 mins.... Was it just tactical??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Sean went off after 49 mins.... Was it just tactical??

    He hasn't played in 10 months, he must have been exhausted


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    Thought he went well enough. Made a few cover tackles, slowed down a good bit of ball, got at least one turnover but a second strong jackal spilled the ball for another player later in the first half.

    Given how long he's been out it was a good nuts and bolts performance, more to come no doubt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Premiership suspended until April 26th.

    European season statement due shortly


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,182 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Premiership rugby is now the last man standing in England. The RFU have cancelled the season for all levels of rugby in England below the Premiership. But they say that they are in discussions with the Premiership clubs, so that could go too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Billy V staying at saracens


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Burkie1203 wrote: »

    The CVC deal was done in December 2018, they got £13.5m each, but I'd imagine that money is long gone/re-invested, especially considering most of the clubs are running at a loss before all of their revenue stopped dead in the tracks.

    I can see where they're coming from but I think it's madness if they genuinely think the clubs will be able to keep paying them their full salary for the next couple of months without any income and pull through at the end of it. This has the potential to push clubs over the edge financially, particularly the likes of Wasps who were looking at a £12m loss last year if not for the CVC money plus a boost from their owner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Newcastle promoted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Jonny May gone back to Gloucester.

    Bit of a head scratcher, they have Ollie Thornley and Louis Rees-Zammit as two extremely promising players who are under contract for a while, they extended Tom Marshall two months ago, and they've got Banahan and Sharples too.

    Assuming it's a big money signing, for a player who doesn't really produce much at club level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Tompkins off to Dragons for 1 season and Isiekwe off to Saints


    https://twitter.com/RugbyInsideLine/status/1265731337006309378?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Assuming it's a big money signing, for a player who doesn't really produce much at club level.

    Very harsh, for me.

    May has been a one man attack for Leicester in some matches where his test team mates have seemed largely disinterested. He has comfotably outshone the likes of Ford, Youngs and Tuilagi for them. 18 tries in 24 matches between this season and last.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    I don’t see how Saracens will be under the cap for their first season back up with all these players only going on one year loans? They’ve only really cut 3 players I think permanently. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Kruis and Goode come back after a year in Japan. And I’ve seen today they’ve signed an international 9 for the Championship!

    I see Itoje posted a photo yesterday on twitter of them winning the Prem last year. What are people’s thought on him posting something like that? I would’ve thought he’d be a bit embarrassed about winning considering what’s happened, but seemingly not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Richie_Rich89


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Tompkins off to Dragons for 1 season and Isiekwe off to Saints


    https://twitter.com/RugbyInsideLine/status/1265731337006309378?s=19

    What's that, like, Itoje and Kpoku in the row then against Leinster if the quarter-final goes ahead?

    Not quite as intimidating as with Skelton or Kruis in there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    I don’t see how Saracens will be under the cap for their first season back up with all these players only going on one year loans? They’ve only really cut 3 players I think permanently. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Kruis and Goode come back after a year in Japan. And I’ve seen today they’ve signed an international 9 for the Championship!

    I see Itoje posted a photo yesterday on twitter of them winning the Prem last year. What are people’s thought on him posting something like that? I would’ve thought he’d be a bit embarrassed about winning considering what’s happened, but seemingly not.

    Skelton, Kruis, Liam Williams and Lamositele alone should free up about £1m from their wage bill. They weren't multiple millions over the cap. Once they trim 4 or 5 big names such as the above, they're fine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    I don’t see how Saracens will be under the cap for their first season back up with all these players only going on one year loans? They’ve only really cut 3 players I think permanently. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Kruis and Goode come back after a year in Japan. And I’ve seen today they’ve signed an international 9 for the Championship!

    I see Itoje posted a photo yesterday on twitter of them winning the Prem last year. What are people’s thought on him posting something like that? I would’ve thought he’d be a bit embarrassed about winning considering what’s happened, but seemingly not.

    Skelton, Kruis, Liam Williams and Lamositele alone should free up about £1m from their wage bill. They weren't multiple millions over the cap. Once they trim 4 or 5 big names such as the above, they're fine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    Buer wrote: »
    Skelton, Kruis, Liam Williams and Lamositele alone should free up about £1m from their wage bill. They weren't multiple millions over the cap. Once they trim 4 or 5 big names such as the above, they're fine.

    Kruis will be back no doubt. Then guys like Earl and Mallins will be getting increases coming into their prime and then they’ve brought in Aled Davies.

    I don’t know maybe they were just over it but I don’t see how they can nearly field an international 15 and bench when nobody else in the prem is anywhere near that. People are looking at Bristol now but if you actually look at their first 23, some people wouldn’t ever have heard of 5/6 of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Kruis will be back no doubt. Then guys like Earl and Mallins will be getting increases coming into their prime and then they’ve brought in Aled Davies.

    I don’t know maybe they were just over it but I don’t see how they can nearly field an international 15 and bench when nobody else in the prem is anywhere near that. People are looking at Bristol now but if you actually look at their first 23, some people wouldn’t ever have heard of 5/6 of them.

    They were £900k over the cap last season. This was highlighted in the report. They will comfortably be inside that with the departures. This doesn't include the expected retirees like Wigglesworth.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Premiership clubs are reportedly trying to make the 25% paycuts permanent now across the board.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Ellis genge posting cryptic stuff on Twitter hinting he is leaving Tigers who seem to be in trouble financially


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,188 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Ellis genge posting cryptic stuff on Twitter hinting he is leaving Tigers who seem to be in trouble financially

    Ford and Tuilagi might be as well if this report is to be believed. Three if their most important players looking to leave. That's on top of Jonny May's departure as well.

    https://twitter.com/TimesSport/status/1277942595864444928?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Ellis genge posting cryptic stuff on Twitter hinting he is leaving Tigers who seem to be in trouble financially

    Ellis seems to be a man with a chip on his shoulder . Every team bar Exeter lost money last year . Now with no gate receipts club are even more financial difficulties and yet he still wants to get paid his full whack . I think he's on 400,000 a year including his England money , so he's not gonna be starving if he did take a cut


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭TomsOnTheRoof


    Real slap in the face for Tigers with Tuilagi leaving. They stood by him while he was crocked and now he refuses to take a cut when the club's in trouble. Pretty mercenary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/53256761

    It looks like Tuilagi is open for business.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,830 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Jordan Taufua will be a great signing for someone


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Jordan Taufua will be a great signing for someone

    He was incredible for the crusaders, thought they were going to struggle to replace him. I'd love him at Ulster but Connacht are crying out for a backrow, aren't they?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭Dog Botherer


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Jordan Taufua will be a great signing for someone

    think Beziers are interested


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Matt Scott was announced for the Tigers too, Edinburgh really messed him over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Leicester's clearout is crazy. Including some loans during the season there were 22 players listed as leaving before today's news which brings it up to 27.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Burkie1203 wrote: »


    No one could have seen that coming.....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Tuilagi to Sale a done deal by all accounts


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,546 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    They could probably play in the Pro 14, here there's a couple spots opening up


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    And Rob Baxter called for Covid testing to end for rugby players...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Legion2008


    Buer wrote: »
    And Rob Baxter called for Covid testing to end for rugby players...

    After being 'cheated' out of premiership titles they may win 2 titles by default

    The Champions Cup final has got to be in doubt as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Premiership rugby making a meal of dealing with this now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Burkie1203 wrote: »

    Reading through that and seeing the excel sheet.

    Either it’s a load of nonsense or some clubs are actually being run by people who would make Boris look intelligent.

    Are we actually supposed to believe that Gloucester have 5 times as many admin staff as players? Does every player have a dedicated Physio, doctor and chauffeur?

    Are we actually meant to believe the figure of Sarries admin expenses?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Bath really stepping up. I'd have thought Saracens would have wanted to win this one badly but very slow out of the traps.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    There is something just so unpleasant on the eye about watching any game at Allianz Park. Such a narrow looking pitch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Huge few minutes for Bath. Saracens knocking at the door and have multiple penalties in Bath territory before a 5m line out is stolen in front of their jumper. Bath get in at 14-3 up. Saracens appear to have the wind in the second half but they'll need a big turnaround in accuracy.

    Manu Vunipola isn't a patch on Goode as an outhalf. They're badly missing Barritt and Taylor. Their midfield is very sloppy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭OldRio


    How the hell Sale are allowed to play on Wednesday after this fiasco I know not.
    Anyway these games are all a bit of a non event, no matter how BT want to spin it.


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