Unsuccessful - post here

dragx · 21-03-2021 8:20pm

J_R wrote: »

Your driving instructor should have warned you that you must be extremely careful that you do not interfere with an examiner conducting a test.

I was not interfering with anyone, I was there first and he took it upon himself to interject. If I lived in the house opposite and was just parking up would the instructor be able to tell me to move?

J_R wrote: »

Several reasons. Main one, the examiner is greatly constrained by time

An examiner should know more than one corner in one of the largest estates in Tallaght. Asking the person taking the test to move on and take another route would add maybe 5 minutes on, if that. In fact, it would have taken less time to do that than to make the production he did.

J_R wrote: »

And suppose the situation was reversed, you doing the test and you are being held up by some inconsiderate twit and you can see your examiner getting more and more irritated by the second.

I'd be inconvenienced, but it's a public road and that comes with the territory. Several times during my EDT I had to find different corners and hill starts because the ones I was taken to were busy.

The examiner should present as a professional and not show that sort of agitation to the person taking the test, in my opinion. And they certainly shouldn't be beeping at a car with L plates. But yeah, I'm an "inconsiderate twit" for practicing for my driving test.

newmember2 · 22-03-2021 12:18am

dragx wrote: »

Yep I do regret not doing more about it it but honestly I was so prepared for the test and just stunned and annoyed after it. A few days later I copped that the form I was sent was completely blank (compared to the one I posted earlier). I also didn't get the paper form that I got today and back in January.

I have considered changing centre but really I know Tallaght best and that has to count for something. I've got a pretest booked for Monday and will do plenty of driving over the weekend so fingers crossed...

Are you saying here that you did a driving test and didn't get a points sheet at the end of the test??

J_R · 22-03-2021 8:59am

dragx wrote: »

I was not interfering with anyone, I was there first and he took it upon himself to interject. If I lived in the house opposite and was just parking up would the instructor be able to tell me to move?

An examiner should know more than one corner in one of the largest estates in Tallaght. Asking the person taking the test to move on and take another route would add maybe 5 minutes on, if that. In fact, it would have taken less time to do that than to make the production he did.

I'd be inconvenienced, but it's a public road and that comes with the territory. Several times during my EDT I had to find different corners and hill starts because the ones I was taken to were busy.

The examiner should present as a professional and not show that sort of agitation to the person taking the test, in my opinion. And they certainly shouldn't be beeping at a car with L plates. But yeah, I'm an "inconsiderate twit" for practicing for my driving test.

Hi,

I am sure he gave you time to move off and leave the corner before he beeped at you. (Testers are easily spotted they wear those bright yellow Hi Vis jacket). When you did not take the hint he was forced to approach you in person.

What makes you believe you can interfere with a Government official conducting an official driving test. ?? What if everyone had your attitude ?

You believe an examiner unprofessionally failed you because you inconvenienced him the day before, yet an examiner will behalf professionally and not show irritation when greatly inconvenienced by someone refusing to leave the corner that he had selected on his test route. ??

dragx · 22-03-2021 9:47am

newmember? wrote: »

Are you saying here that you did a driving test and didn't get a points sheet at the end of the test??

I got e-mailed a completely blank sheet. Same as the sheet I posted a few pages back, but each grade box is empty.

J_R wrote: »

Hi,

I am sure he gave you time to move off and leave the corner before he beeped at you. (Testers are easily spotted they wear those bright yellow Hi Vis jacket). When you did not take the hint he was forced to approach you in person.

Plenty of people pull up at that corner. Like I said, it's very popular for practice. Should someone move on every time someone else wants to practice? If I arrive to the corner to practice and someone is there, I move on. I certainly do not wait behind them and stand on my horn. As I said, plenty of corners in Tallaght.

I did not make out the hi-vis, neither did my accompanying driver. He did not give me plenty of time, if he had I would have completed the reverse and left.

J_R wrote: »

What makes you believe you can interfere with a Government official conducting an official driving test. ?? What if everyone had your attitude ?

Again, I did not interfere. I was doing my own thing when he took it upon himself to involve me. In order for me to interfere I would have to have known a test was ongoing and go out of my way to impede it's progress.

J_R wrote: »

You believe an examiner unprofessionally failed you because you inconvenienced him the day before, yet an examiner will behalf professionally and not show irritation when greatly inconvenienced by someone refusing to leave the corner that he had selected on his test route. ??

Yes, I believe examiners should behave professionally while at work. Regardless of the outcome of my test, repeatedly beeping at a learner because of a mild inconvenience is not professional behaviour. Not sure what you're confused about there.

Posy · 22-03-2021 9:37pm

Surely if a tester gets to a corner they plan to use for a test, and somebody is already on that corner doing a lesson/pre-test/practice, they should use another spot, rather than park behind the person and blow the horn at them until they move?

That can't be professional protocol!

J_R · 23-03-2021 8:16am

Posy wrote: »

Surely if a tester gets to a corner they plan to use for a test, and somebody is already on that corner doing a lesson/pre-test/practice, they should use another spot, rather than park behind the person and blow the horn at them until they move?

That can't be professional protocol!

Hi,

I believe this post and the ones by Dragx re. interfering with someone doing the driving test should be addressed by a Boards.ie moderator.

dragx · 24-03-2021 1:49am

J_R wrote: »

I believe this post and the ones by Dragx re. interfering with someone doing the driving test should be addressed by a Boards.ie moderator.

I have been perfectly civil to you, and Posy simply expressed their opinion. Hardly grounds for a moderator to review the posts.

Perhaps you should just accept that you're wrong.

J_R · 24-03-2021 8:28am

dragx wrote: »

I have been perfectly civil to you, and Posy simply expressed their opinion. Hardly grounds for a moderator to review the posts.

Perhaps you should just accept that you're wrong.

Hi,

The reason I asked Boards to post a definitive reply from the RSA was to immediately squash your belief that learner drivers could with impunity interfere with examiners conducting a driving test, even to the point of accusing them of being unprofessional if they objected .

If other learner drivers also started to believe that it was OK to interfere it would lead to utter mayhem.

To me it is almost unbelievable that a learner driver would be willing to subject a fellow learner doing the test to extra stress, never mind interfering with an examiner doing their job.

LorelaiG · 24-03-2021 4:10pm

I know when I was doing my pre tests and lessons that if we were practicing a reverse around a corner and an examiner arrived conducting a test we moved off immediately and found another corner to practice on. My instructor always told me that if I was out practicing with a sponsor that I should do this.

It's because they are under time constraints to get the test done to get to the next test and may not have time to drive and find another suitable corner to do it.

terminator74 · 24-03-2021 5:49pm

LorelaiG wrote: »

I know when I was doing my pre tests and lessons that if we were practicing a reverse around a corner and an examiner arrived conducting a test we moved off immediately and found another corner to practice on. My instructor always told me that if I was out practicing with a sponsor that I should do this.

It's because they are under time constraints to get the test done to get to the next test and may not have time to drive and find another suitable corner to do it.

I would have had a similar experience with my instructor where we often left the area if an instructor was about (also around Tallaght). Similarly she advised me to look elsewhere if there was a test in place. IMO, while the instructor may have displayed poor manners in the way he talked to you, it was fair enough for them to request you to move on.
As you know driving tests are difficult enough and I'm sure most instructors want to give people a fair chance. Having to unnecessarily wait while someone practices a reverse around the corner is not ideal for the person sitting the test. Neither is it ideal for the tester who has time constraints. The option to look for another corner to reverse may not have been easy to do. (The test routes and parts of the test need to take place in specific testing environments i.e. estates, busy junctions etc). Not every corner in an estate is suitable to properly test someone.
In any case, I would side with the view that's its better to let the tester and applicant do their thing and move on.

dragx · 24-03-2021 6:17pm

J_R wrote: »

your belief that learner drivers could with impunity interfere with examiners conducting a driving test, even to the point of accusing them of being unprofessional if they objected .

If other learner drivers also started to believe that it was OK to interfere it would lead to utter mayhem.

To me it is almost unbelievable that a learner driver would be willing to subject a fellow learner doing the test to extra stress, never mind interfering with an examiner doing their job.

You keep using the word interfere. It's incredibly frustrating because I don't know how I can make it any clearer to you that I did not know the person was conducting a test.

I would never want to put anyone completing the test under any undue stress, which is why I moved on immediately after the tester identified themselves. Whether they had the right to or not, I didn't argue their point and moved on.

I never came into this thread to discuss my first test specifically, I mentioned it in passing as I maintain it was an unfair fail and elaborated when asked. You are going around in circles now and repeating yourself so I think we'll call it a day.

LorelaiG wrote: »

I know when I was doing my pre tests and lessons that if we were practicing a reverse around a corner and an examiner arrived conducting a test we moved off immediately and found another corner to practice on. My instructor always told me that if I was out practicing with a sponsor that I should do this.
it.

terminator74 wrote: »

IMO, while the instructor may have displayed poor manners in the way he talked to you, it was fair enough for them to request you to move on.

Absolutely no issue with being asked to move on and would have moved on if I had known it was an examiner, but as I said when I first brought this up, for all I knew it was just another learner wanting to practice. Other people in this thread and who I have spoken to about the issue believe he had no right to ask me to move on a public road, but again I did not protest once I realised what was going on. My issue was 100% to do with his attitude that day and my resulting test the following morning.

codriscoll1 · 24-03-2021 11:46pm

J_R wrote: »

Hi,

The reason I asked Boards to post a definitive reply from the RSA was to immediately squash your belief that learner drivers could with impunity interfere with examiners conducting a driving test, even to the point of accusing them of being unprofessional if they objected .

If other learner drivers also started to believe that it was OK to interfere it would lead to utter mayhem.

To me it is almost unbelievable that a learner driver would be willing to subject a fellow learner doing the test to extra stress, never mind interfering with an examiner doing their job.

I have no information on the specific case mentioned in previous posts - but I will say that as an ADI, we (or examiners) have no right to tell someone to leave a specific spot/corner on a public road. Or to use the horn to express anger/frustration at another road user - which I would agree is unprofessional for an ADI or examiner.

Any driver absolutely can "with impunity" reverse around a corner on a public road - and has no obligation to leave if they see an examiner approaching the same corner. It might be inconvenient for the examiner/candidate, and I think most people would try to avoid inconveniencing them if they noticed that it was someone taking a test, but the RSA do not own the corners/estates used in tests.

ohnonotgmail · 24-03-2021 11:52pm

codriscoll1 wrote: »

I have no information on the specific case mentioned in previous posts - but I will say that as an ADI, we (or examiners) have no right to tell someone to leave a specific spot/corner on a public road. Or to use the horn to express anger/frustration at another road user.

Any driver absolutely can "with impunity" reverse around a corner on a public road - and has no obligation to leave if they see an examiner approaching the same corner. It might be inconvenient for the examiner/candidate, and I think most people would try to avoid inconveniencing them if they noticed that it was someone taking a test, but the RSA do not own the corners/estates used in tests.

It falls under the "don't be a dick" rule.

codriscoll1 · 24-03-2021 11:57pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It falls under the "don't be a dick" rule.

I agree and I think most people would try to avoid it - though again this is a courtesy and not a legal obligation. But by the sounds of it dragx simply didn't notice it was someone taking their test (and has no obligation to check this).

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 25-03-2021 11:23am

I remember the RSA not to long ago had a memo up for driving instructors in Finglas not to use a certain estate for the purpose of lessons. They explained it was due to residents complaining. But it happened to be where they did reversing around a corner etc.

On top of that I got the memo directly from my boss because they had sent it around to the driving schools also.

Personally I've no problem with keeping a corner free if a student under test comes up, for me it's more about respect for the testers and as another said about , not being a dick about it.

Johner · 25-03-2021 2:30pm

They have a sign up in the Naas test centre to stop using an estate for the reverse around the corner as well.

LorelaiG · 25-03-2021 9:03pm

dragx wrote: »

You keep using the word interfere. It's incredibly frustrating because I don't know how I can make it any clearer to you that I did not know the person was conducting a test.

I would never want to put anyone completing the test under any undue stress, which is why I moved on immediately after the tester identified themselves. Whether they had the right to or not, I didn't argue their point and moved on.

I never came into this thread to discuss my first test specifically, I mentioned it in passing as I maintain it was an unfair fail and elaborated when asked. You are going around in circles now and repeating yourself so I think we'll call it a day.

Absolutely no issue with being asked to move on and would have moved on if I had known it was an examiner, but as I said when I first brought this up, for all I knew it was just another learner wanting to practice. Other people in this thread and who I have spoken to about the issue believe he had no right to ask me to move on a public road, but again I did not protest once I realised what was going on. My issue was 100% to do with his attitude that day and my resulting test the following morning.

I find it weird that you didn't know it was a tester because they're required to wear their high vis with the RSA logo on it. No driving instructor is allowed to do that.

MascotDec85 · 26-03-2021 2:07am

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

I remember the RSA not to long ago had a memo up for driving instructors in Finglas not to use a certain estate for the purpose of lessons. They explained it was due to residents complaining. But it happened to be where they did reversing around a corner etc.

On top of that I got the memo directly from my boss because they had sent it around to the driving schools also.

Personally I've no problem with keeping a corner free if a student under test comes up, for me it's more about respect for the testers and as another said about , not being a dick about it.

I didn’t realise you were an ADI

daretodream · 26-03-2021 10:45am

On a completely different note...

Do testers have access to previous test report for subsequent retest? Be interested to know if they check and compare performance on the same fault areas or use as a tool to gauge driving ability overall. Or do they go in blind with a fresh, clean slate?

lawless11 · 26-03-2021 1:54pm

daretodream wrote: »

On a completely different note...

Do testers have access to previous test report for subsequent retest? Be interested to know if they check and compare performance on the same fault areas or use as a tool to gauge driving ability overall. Or do they go in blind with a fresh, clean slate?

I believe they go "blind". Anyway that's how it was for my few attempts.

BobbyMalone · 26-03-2021 4:44pm

J_R wrote: »

To me it is almost unbelievable that a learner driver would be willing to subject a fellow learner doing the test to extra stress, never mind interfering with an examiner doing their job.

Is it immediately noticeable that someone is undergoing a test? regardless, I would've thought the behaviour of the examiner would be more in question. I'm not sure beeping the horn in this instance constitutes either 'warning other road users of on-coming danger' or 'making others aware of your presence for safety reasons'.

I imagine having your examiner reach over and beep the horn (or get you to do it?) wouldn't exactly set your mind at east if you were doing a test (and might actually be adding extra stress).

J_R · 27-03-2021 7:59am

BobbyMalone wrote: »

Is it immediately noticeable that someone is undergoing a test? regardless, I would've thought the behaviour of the examiner would be more in question. I'm not sure beeping the horn in this instance constitutes either 'warning other road users of on-coming danger' or 'making others aware of your presence for safety reasons'.

I imagine having your examiner reach over and beep the horn (or get you to do it?) wouldn't exactly set your mind at east if you were doing a test (and might actually be adding extra stress).

Hi,

Examiners wear HiVis jackets.

I'm sure when the OP of this thread turned up for his test the next day the examiner would feel it necessary to be extra diligent when checking their observational skills.

There is a big difference between blowing the horn at someone in traffic and one safely parked.

The examiner would never have reached across. They are very very careful never to invade the personal space of the applicant. More than likely they would have made a joke at the OP's expense and requested them nicely to give the miscreant a wee beep.

As a few others have posted, interfering with an examiner in the course of their duties shows a total lack of respect. And if that person is a driving instructor then I'm sure the feeling would be reciprocated.

Again from the RSA website

Don’t:

Unnecessarily obstruct traffic or annoy other road users
Practise on driving test routes for the most part; congestion on these routes causes inconvenience to residents and test applicants alike

My last post on the subject.

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BobbyMalone · 27-03-2021 5:35pm

J_R wrote: »

There is a big difference between blowing the horn at someone in traffic and one safely parked.

Not according to the Rules of the Road, which state only to use a horn to warn other users of impending danger or to make them aware of your presence for safety reasons when reasonably necessary.

J_R wrote: »

The examiner would never have reached across. They are very very careful never to invade the personal space of the applicant.

I imagine if the examiner is happy enough to ignore the rules of the road, he may very well have reached over to beep the horn. But even if he didn't, it would be very unprofessional to:

J_R wrote: »

have made a joke at the OP's expense and requested them nicely to give the miscreant a wee beep.

If you have an issue with someone practicing on the route, and you haven't been diligent in preparing other areas for maneuvers or are just bad at managing your time, the obvious way to deal with this situation is to get out of your car and have a 'wee' chat with the person practicing.

J_R wrote: »

Examiners wear HiVis jackets.

I'm sure when the OP of this thread turned up for his test the next day the examiner would feel it necessary to be extra diligent when checking their observational skills.

With this I would be inclined to agree with you. I can well imagine that examiner being 'extra diligent' if he recognised the person the next day, although he should of course be testing the person on how he performs on the day, and not something he observed previously.

Sweet.Science · 31-03-2021 8:45am

My nct was extended 4 months due to covid .

Can you show the tester the text from the nct as the disc will be out of date ?

lobbylad · 06-04-2021 2:45pm

My daughter failed today for the 2nd time, observability being the main factor.

But, I'm confused now, the 1st tester said she didn't look over her shoulder when pulling out into traffic. Today's tester told her she shouldn't look around over her shoulder?

Which is it? Use mirrors, look 90 degrees and then are you supposed to look over the shoulder when, say, pulling out from being parked?

codriscoll1 · 06-04-2021 7:33pm

Sweet.Science wrote: »

My nct was extended 4 months due to covid .

Can you show the tester the text from the nct as the disc will be out of date ?

Testers are aware of the extensions and will still accept the car for the test.

punisher5112 · 06-04-2021 9:12pm

lobbylad wrote: »

My daughter failed today for the 2nd time, observability being the main factor.

But, I'm confused now, the 1st tester said she didn't look over her shoulder when pulling out into traffic. Today's tester told her she shouldn't look around over her shoulder?

Which is it? Use mirrors, look 90 degrees and then are you supposed to look over the shoulder when, say, pulling out from being parked?

Really depends on situation where she was looking over her shoulder.... May well be no need at times she done it or was doing it too much and for no reason.

It's good practice to look at the blind spot especially changing lanes.

Paddy_Mski · 09-04-2021 8:48pm

Im looking to get some help. Im really useless at following direction and am struggling with the NDLS page.

I passed my C licence rigid driving test but have yet to do my cpc walkaround test. My question is am I able to apply for my full C licence or do I have to do the cpc walkaround first. Also having got a medical and eye report 3 months ago for the provisional, do I need to get them again as a work colleague said he had to.

Thanks a million

daretodream · 14-04-2021 8:20pm

Does anyone know how long an Essential Worker has to wait to retake the test? Friend of mine failed today and reapplied straight away. Is there a time lapse in between tests or will they be called again as normal, as like first test? He's gutted but prepared to go again.

Rireland9 · 17-04-2021 9:39am

I was in the same situation as an essential worker, I got a retest 6 weeks later, 3 weeks after failed test got invitation to book a test

daretodream · 17-04-2021 3:25pm

Rireland9 wrote: »

I was in the same situation as an essential worker, I got a retest 6 weeks later, 3 weeks after failed test got invitation to book a test

Thanks for reply. Did you pass?! Very hard going again and again. Not to mention so many pretests and costs involved. Must be amazing to pass first time. Still lucky to get a test at all, I suppose. All ahead of me.

markmoto · 17-04-2021 3:46pm

During the test if you made a mistake say that to the tester right away.
At least he/she knows it was human error and not lack of knowledge.

Rireland9 · 17-04-2021 7:56pm

My test is next week, it would be such a relief if I do pass, fingers crossed

Paddy_Mski · 04-05-2021 6:28pm

How difficult is the CPC Walkaround Test for the truck? Im struggling trying to remember all the questions & answers my instructor gave me, they just wont sink in. Has anyone any idea what to look out for or a run through of the actual test? Cheers

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 04-05-2021 7:01pm

Paddy_Mski wrote: »

How difficult is the CPC Walkaround Test for the truck? Im struggling trying to remember all the questions & answers my instructor gave me, they just wont sink in. Has anyone any idea what to look out for or a run through of the actual test? Cheers

It's just a walk around a truck paddy, basically you'll be giving a description of what. *You* will be doing everytime you get your truck before you drive it.

So using common sense, what would you check ?

I know personally, I'll be checking my wheels
1) tyres are above minimum thread depth
2) they are inflated
3) all the wheel nuts are present and are in line with each other.

I'd be checking my lights,
1) they all work
2) the lenses are clean so the light is visible
3) they are not damaged / broken

Windows
1) clean, clear
2) no cracks / breakages

Wipers
1) they work and clear the windscreen correctly
2) they are not worn, rubber broken etc

But they are just a few examples you can use !

A question I think they ask nearly everybody is " you're driving your truck across a boarder, how do you check there are no illegal immigrants in the vehicle"

Of course, you'll say you'll have checked your documents and keep everything in order.

But where you actually look for people on the vehicle,

The cargo area, the cab, above the cab, between the cab and body, under the body such as hiding on the axles etc.... (Yes it comes up and yes there was a case a few year back of a migrant trying to get from France to the UK who's body was going wrapped around an axle, so there you have it)

It's not a difficult test paddy, realistically it'll take about 20 mins, you'll be grand

totover · 05-06-2021 7:05pm

Failed again on the manual but feel its narrowed down to 1 or things.

Main one is reverse round the corner

Yes so going to have to keep practicing this bit. Given all the other #### like observations and all that it, the reversing was the main culprit.

Even on the pre test practice, I just knew this would screw me up. If i were to fail on this part everything would need to be perfect and they weren't either.

So has anyone else struggle with this???
Iniitially I was thought to go slow with slow clutch control. Thats ok

I was also told to only use gentle steers. Problem then I end up with is being too far out. I done the gentle steers on pre test and the instructor was like "lock lock lock". As if to say then that I wasn't doing enough or fast enough steering. Still doing my best in the meantime to keep it slow on the clutch

Like dammit I done it fast one day and the sudden break but that's not going to work in the test

In a recent pretest report on the reverse round corner, first time I did it my driving was perfect but observation was sh1t. 2nd time I did it driving was sh1t but the observation was good

On the opposite end my 3 point + turnabout was ok

Not being rude but it's not a chin up or confidence thing. Just where is this going wrong. Have no practice vehicle either
How do we crack this one?????

pm1977x · 06-06-2021 8:41am

I would suggest watch as many videos of the reverse around the corner as possible, and read up on it - the good news is there's only a few basic steps required to get this right - observe, reverse, turn...the difficult thing is putting them all together under the pressure of testing conditions.

I would write out a list of the steps and just learn it off by heart so there's no ''what do I do now again?'' moment during the test.

- Definitely take your time, don't rush it. My instructor told me to take a brief break half way through just to do a full observation check and asses how far I was from the curb for any corrections needed.

Pro tip - once you've nailed it, make sure to INDICATE as you pull away and not to stall, which I used to do after the adrenaline rush of getting it right, that was no fun!

I didn't have a practice vehicle either most of the time but ended up paying for a LOT of lessons, it's really tough. If possible go to an industrial estate at the weekend and drive around finding various quiet corners to practice on - practicing on normal roads is very stressful with cars coming up at you all the time.

edit: here's an example at 17 mins, although for me he's bombing around the corner!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdVoy3SUJ5Y

Here's a better step by step
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxZ02NxOgtM

J_R · 11-06-2021 8:27am

lobbylad wrote: »

My daughter failed today for the 2nd time, observability being the main factor.

But, I'm confused now, the 1st tester said she didn't look over her shoulder when pulling out into traffic. Today's tester told her she shouldn't look around over her shoulder?

Which is it? Use mirrors, look 90 degrees and then are you supposed to look over the shoulder when, say, pulling out from being parked?

Hi,

Yes, examiners were referring to different situations.

1st examiner when stationary, prior to moving off, when you must look back over your shoulder

2nd examiner would have been referring to changing road position whilst moving. such as lane changing or moving out to white line. Then a quick shoulder check should be sufficient.

challengemaster · 16-06-2021 10:11am

J_R wrote: »

The examiner would never have reached across. They are very very careful never to invade the personal space of the applicant. More than likely they would have made a joke at the OP's expense and requested them nicely to give the miscreant a wee beep.

The examiner reached across and beeped the horn during my test 13 years ago. Wouldn't surprise me if they were still doing it. Some guy had parked a trailer blocking the entire road. I stopped and waited for further instruction. After a minute or so he was leaning on the horn and shouting at them out the window.

J_R · 16-06-2021 7:35pm

challengemaster wrote: »

The examiner reached across and beeped the horn during my test 13 years ago. Wouldn't surprise me if they were still doing it. Some guy had parked a trailer blocking the entire road. I stopped and waited for further instruction. After a minute or so he was leaning on the horn and shouting at them out the window.

Hi,

well, there is always the odd exception. I would hazard a guess that he was quite happy with your driving and intended to give you a pass. Therefore he was confident you would have no inclination to lodge a complaint about invading your space.

Lockheed · 18-06-2021 1:24pm

My third driving test has been booked in and I'm sitting it in July! Hopefully I'll finally graduate from the unsuccessful topic. I finally found a decent driving instructor who didn't ghost me like my first (if anyone DM's me I have a story to tell about Aviva, avoid them at all costs) or my second driving instructor who shouted at me for grade 1 faults - and he wasn't insured or even an ADI!! Honestly, I'm so fuming that anyone ever recommended him to me.

My new driving instructor who is patient, doesn't shout at me and always tells me where I go wrong has booked me in intensive lessons the week before and an hour pretest + renting his 201 car for the test.

Best chance I've ever had of passing since I started learning, I think! Imagine, the last time I posted here I was asking about medication to deal with driving anxiety, and all I needed was an instructor who listened to me and was halfway decent at his job. Wish me luck!!

lawless11 · 18-06-2021 10:32pm

Lockheed wrote: »

My third driving test has been booked in and I'm sitting it in July! Hopefully I'll finally graduate from the unsuccessful topic. I finally found a decent driving instructor who didn't ghost me like my first (if anyone DM's me I have a story to tell about Aviva, avoid them at all costs) or my second driving instructor who shouted at me for grade 1 faults - and he wasn't insured or even an ADI!! Honestly, I'm so fuming that anyone ever recommended him to me.

My new driving instructor who is patient, doesn't shout at me and always tells me where I go wrong has booked me in intensive lessons the week before and an hour pretest + renting his 201 car for the test.

Best chance I've ever had of passing since I started learning, I think! Imagine, the last time I posted here I was asking about medication to deal with driving anxiety, and all I needed was an instructor who listened to me and was halfway decent at his job. Wish me luck!!

Best of luck! Best thing I did (albeit late, should have done it way sooner!!) was to change instructors. Literally did 2-3 hours with the second instructor, different/better car and passed (on the 4th attempt). Should have changed way sooner but felt a guilty loyalty to the first chap (mistake!).

juneg · 19-06-2021 8:22pm

How long is the theory test valid for before a test?
Thank you

punisher5112 · 20-06-2021 3:23am

juneg wrote: »

How long is the theory test valid for before a test?
Thank you

Under 2 years

Adelie · 20-06-2021 7:40pm

juneg wrote: »

How long is the theory test valid for before a test?
Thank you

You’d have to apply for a learners permit within 2 years. The 1st and 2nd permit are valid for 2 years each so if you wanted you could go 6 years before sitting the test.

december2019 · 25-07-2022 1:33pm

Ended up with 10 grades two's.

I stalled coming out of the center and it sort of put me off and got a other one for progress then.

Then we approached a junction where we always went left in lessons and I was told to go right and I reacted a little late.

It was a road I was never on before and I missed a 30km/h speed limit. He brought me down it again and then I copped it.

I essentially followed another driving school car around. Turn about was slightly different because of this but it was fine.

Reverse around the corner was similar.

There's a easy enough one and a hard one. The tester asked me to do the easy one and then realised the other instructor was there and told me to go to the next one and got another thick.

My route from my lessons was similar but I did lots of it the opposite way around.

Probably took a speed bump fast in the end also but I sort of knew I had it failed.

I essentially marked my test as I went along.

There's no point of dwelling on it. It was an experience and I've a better idea what it's like now.

Tester was fine probably a bit serious but that's to be expected.

I didn't do anything majorly wrong. Just need to a bit more competent coming out of junctions and watch my speed a bit better at times.

I've booked another test and just have to wait for an appointment I'll do more lessons and practice.

skywayavenue · 27-01-2023 10:16am

Has anyone failed recently? How long were you waiting for a retest? Is there such a thing as a cancellation list these days?

I can't tell you why · 27-01-2023 3:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120163913#Comment_120163913

The cancellation list is gone. But the rsa do put you on a shorter waiting list for a retest, about 6 weeks.

skywayavenue · 27-01-2023 5:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120165651#Comment_120165651

Thanks! Yeah I've rebooked but got a 12 week wait time, would have liked to get it done again sooner.

15-08-2023 6:04pm

Are the waiting list still long?

Unsuccessful - post here

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