Should the internet be turned off for a week?

Sunny Disposition · 23-03-2021 2:59pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Your point about producing meat and children making clothes is very different and nothing to do with the internet.

All you're doing is arguing for the sake of it but not making any valid or coherent point.

I am of course, I’m saying the internet should be turned off for a week for the good of society.

thecomedian · 23-03-2021 3:06pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

I am of course, I’m saying the internet should be turned off for a week for the good of society.

Maybe a ban on social media for the week would work but to shut down the internet wouldn’t work out well.

murpho999 · 23-03-2021 3:45pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

I am of course, I’m saying the internet should be turned off for a week for the good of society.

It's a really bad idea. Economy, communications, governments etc. All would stop.

People would actually die as healthcare is even integrated into the internet nowadays.

KathleenGrant · 23-03-2021 3:51pm

Didn't read the whole thread, just the title but for me, no!

There are many of us who are not living with all family members and my contact with some of my kids/grandchildren is done on a call a day and internet based posts after that.

Can I survive without talking to my children/grandchildren every day.....YES

Do I want to.....NO

Will my mental health suffer more or less without that contact for a week? MORE, WAY MORE

begbysback · 23-03-2021 5:29pm

As an amateur troll, where would I go?

Surreptitious · 23-03-2021 6:01pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Your point about producing meat and children making clothes is very different and nothing to do with the internet.

All you're doing is arguing for the sake of it but not making any valid or coherent point.

Pretty much sums up most of the arguments on here.

begbysback · 23-03-2021 6:19pm

Surreptitious wrote: »

Pretty much sums up most of the arguments on here.

Exactly, if we cannot randomly argue with another human being over the internet then how else would we get that soothing feeling of being right when somebody else is wrong?

Kermit.de.frog · 23-03-2021 6:51pm

ELM327 wrote: »

No

If you can't access boards, porn or netflix during lockdown what the hell do they expect us to do

What did they do 20 years a go or 100 years a go to keep entertained and busy?

wench · 23-03-2021 6:52pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

What did they do 20 years a go or 100 years a go to keep entertained and busy?

If they turn off the internet, how will we find out??

Kermit.de.frog · 23-03-2021 8:27pm

You should check out the 80's thread.

Grim but our ancestors seemed content enough.

Capt'n Midnight · 24-03-2021 12:50am

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/log_out

Quantum Erasure · 24-03-2021 7:41am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

What did they do 20 years a go or 100 years a go to keep entertained and busy?

During the plague, when everything was under lockdown, Isaac Newton was so bored he developed his theories on gravity, the laws of motion, and invented calculus...

ShatterAlan · 24-03-2021 10:03am

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

This would give everyone a break and could provide us with a huge mental health boost. Also it would give people a chance to realise they were gone too into twitter and facebook etc. Even if the Government just did it from say Good Friday to late on Easter Sunday night wouldn't it give us a chance for contemplation. Should they do it?

Are you going to pay the billions in lost revenue to all the companies and businesses who rely on internet connectivity to conduct their business?

The internet isn't just people surfing pornsites and tweeting bullsh1t

24-03-2021 12:29pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You should check out the 80's thread.

Grim but our ancestors seemed content enough.

Actually most people thought it was grand, if I recall.

The internet has been around for my adult lifetime. Admittedly without smart phones it was a bit more limited but even smart phones are slowing down.

Sunny Disposition · 24-03-2021 4:12pm

ShatterAlan wrote: »

Are you going to pay the billions in lost revenue to all the companies and businesses who rely on internet connectivity to conduct their business?

The internet isn't just people surfing pornsites and tweeting bullsh1t

They’ll need to roll with it and adapt. Farmers can’t make the rain stop falling, these businesses won’t be allowed keep the internet on all day and night indefinitely if the Government decide to turn it off.

The J Stands for Jay · 24-03-2021 4:18pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

They’ll need to roll with it and adapt. Farmers can’t make the rain stop falling, these businesses won’t be allowed keep the internet on all day and night indefinitely if the Government decide to turn it off.

The government have no control over the internet. It's just a load of computers plugged together. They can no more turn it off than they can turn off the rain.

Sunny Disposition · 24-03-2021 4:22pm

McGaggs wrote: »

The government have no control over the internet. It's just a load of computers plugged together. They can no more turn it off than they can turn off the rain.

Of course they can, it’s a widely believed myth they can’t. And they should.

The J Stands for Jay · 24-03-2021 4:27pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Of course they can, it’s a widely believed myth they can’t. And they should.

Explain how they can stop everyone in Ireland from using the internet. They would need to shut down each ISP and prevent any external ISPs from allowing access. What about MNCs in Ireland who access the internet through their home country, rather than through local services.

Sunny Disposition · 24-03-2021 4:30pm

McGaggs wrote: »

Explain how they can stop everyone in Ireland from using the internet. They would need to **** down each ISP and prevent any external ISPs from allowing access. What about MNCs in Ireland who access the internet through their home country, rather than through local services.

Rogue MNCs would be a challenge I will grant you, the rest of it can be easily done. You'd have to hope the MNCs comply for fear of reputational damage though. Will be a need for a lot of inspection and strong deterrents though.

Gregor Samsa · 24-03-2021 4:37pm

How would the Irish government turn off satellite internet access provided by companies outside of the State?

km991148 · 24-03-2021 4:39pm

s8n wrote: »

Any consideration for those who earn a living off internet based companies ?

or

The fact we get the majority of our entertainment & news from online sources ?

I'm yes to both and still say get it to fk and turn it off..

Sunny Disposition · 24-03-2021 4:40pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

How would the Irish government turn off satellite internet access provided by companies outside of the State?

Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.

Gregor Samsa · 24-03-2021 4:47pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.

How could the government tell them, if they've already turned off the rest of the internet? There'd be no gov.ie email. They couldn't even look them up to get their address to send them a letter in the post. Or use Google Translate to write the letter in their language. You haven't thought this though at all.

The J Stands for Jay · 24-03-2021 4:49pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.

I'm not being awkward, I'm just asking about my own situation. When I go into the office and open Google, it gives me information based on the company's head office, as that is where the internet is accessed. They have private network connections between locations, and they all get internet access from that location.

The J Stands for Jay · 24-03-2021 4:51pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.

It's not possible to turn off satellite internet without shutting down the entire service for all countries. Not happening

Sunny Disposition · 24-03-2021 4:53pm

McGaggs wrote: »

It's not possible to turn off satellite internet without shutting down the entire service for all countries. Not happening

It’s not nearly as hard do as it seems, genuinely it isn’t.

Gregor Samsa · 24-03-2021 4:53pm

McGaggs wrote: »

I'm not being awkward, I'm just asking about my own situation. When I go into the office and open Google, it gives me information based on the company's head office, as that is where the internet is accessed. They have private network connections between locations, and they all get internet access from that location.

Your company is using a VPN, so while the ultimate connection to websites is done though your head office's servers (and to those sites, it looks like you're connecting from that country), you're still using Irish internet infrastructure to connect to that VPN.

If the Irish government managed to turn off the internet in Ireland, that VPN wouldn't work as it would not be able to communicate with the servers in head office in the first place.

MissShihTzu · 24-03-2021 4:54pm

Was this a serious question? How are we to work and make telephone calls (Most phone lines are VOIP). Some of us have to work over the Bank Holiday, you know!

Gregor Samsa · 24-03-2021 4:58pm

MissShihTzu wrote: »

Was this a serious question? How are we to work and make telephone calls (Most phone lines are VOIP). Some of us have to work over the Bank Holiday, you know!

I think the OP's plan would be that you'd do a bit of contemplation instead of working and making phone calls.

ShatterAlan · 24-03-2021 5:10pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

They’ll need to roll with it and adapt. Farmers can’t make the rain stop falling, these businesses won’t be allowed keep the internet on all day and night indefinitely if the Government decide to turn it off.

What are you on?

How can the government decide to "turn off" the internet? It's not like you flip a switch and the internet is "turned off". It's a global mesh of interconnected computers.

And you talk about businesses needing to "roll with it". What kind of inane statement is that. Outside of the SWIFT network for money transactions, nobody will be able to make online bank payments, companies can't place or fulfill orders, datacenters can't be backed up, they can't even be monitored. As an engineer I could stay here all day boring the tits off you with what couldn't be done if the internet was "switched off" and then the ensuing mess once it is "turned back on".

Sunny Disposition · 24-03-2021 5:41pm

ShatterAlan wrote: »

What are you on?

How can the government decide to "turn off" the internet? It's not like you flip a switch and the internet is "turned off". It's a global mesh of interconnected computers.

And you talk about businesses needing to "roll with it". What kind of inane statement is that. Outside of the SWIFT network for money transactions, nobody will be able to make online bank payments, companies can't place or fulfill orders, datacenters can't be backed up, they can't even be monitored. As an engineer I could stay here all day boring the tits off you with what couldn't be done if the internet was "switched off" and then the ensuing mess once it is "turned back on".

It’s actually not that different from flicking a switch given a nation state’s power, strange as it may seem.
Yeah, it will cause disruption, there’s no doubt, but you wouldn’t tell an alcoholic to keep drinking in case he’d find it the first few days off the drink hard.

Strumms · 24-03-2021 6:02pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

It’s actually not that different from flicking a switch given a nation state’s power, strange as it may seem.
Yeah, it will cause disruption, there’s no doubt, but you wouldn’t tell an alcoholic to keep drinking in case he’d find it the first few days off the drink hard.

Alcoholism is a disease.

The internet by and large is a positive social, business, commerce, electronic mail platform that’s also used for governance, banking, security, transportation, for delivery of healthcare etc... so cause disruption ? It would cause deaths most likely...

That’s for starters... Sunny Disposition needs to get some Sunny Delight if they think that switching off the internet is a good thing...the vitamin D and C work wonders.. I’m told..

Sunny Disposition · 24-03-2021 6:19pm

Strumms wrote: »

Alcoholism is a disease.

The internet by and large is a positive social, business, commerce, electronic mail platform that’s also used for governance, banking, security, transportation, for delivery of healthcare etc... so cause disruption ? It would cause deaths most likely...

That’s for starters... Sunny Disposition needs to get some Sunny Delight if they think that switching off the internet is a good thing...the vitamin D and C work wonders.. I’m told..

You’re just being abusive, not engaging in serious debate.

The J Stands for Jay · 24-03-2021 6:50pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

It’s not nearly as hard do as it seems, genuinely it isn’t.

How do you think we are able to watch satellite TV channels that aren't intended for us?

The J Stands for Jay · 24-03-2021 6:51pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Your company is using a VPN, so while the ultimate connection to websites is done though your head office's servers (and to those sites, it looks like you're connecting from that country), you're still using Irish internet infrastructure to connect to that VPN.

If the Irish government managed to turn off the internet in Ireland, that VPN wouldn't work as it would not be able to communicate with the servers in head office in the first place.

Someone in IT once told me the company had their own cables that the data went through. Of that person was correct, it'd be unaffected by an internet switch off.

The J Stands for Jay · 24-03-2021 6:53pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

It’s actually not that different from flicking a switch given a nation state’s power, strange as it may seem.
Yeah, it will cause disruption, there’s no doubt, but you wouldn’t tell an alcoholic to keep drinking in case he’d find it the first few days off the drink hard.

A better analogy would be trying to turn off the electric grid because some alcoholics are using electric stills to make their own alcohol, and to hell with all the hospitals, schools, businesses arc that need power.

Temptamperu · 24-03-2021 6:54pm

Can OP not just turn his own internet off and leave the rest of us alone?

Gregor Samsa · 24-03-2021 7:10pm

McGaggs wrote: »

Someone in IT once told me the company had their own cables that the data went through. Of that person was correct, it'd be unaffected by an internet switch off.

Think about it. Your company has not strung its own optic fibre cables from your office in Ireland, under the ground or via poles to the coast, then across the sea bed, to the coast of some other country, then back up into land and either under the ground or via poles all the way to the HQ office, just for its own use. Even if your company was Google, they have not done that.

Surreptitious · 24-03-2021 7:20pm

Temptamperu wrote: »

Can OP not just turn his own internet off and leave the rest of us alone?

Then they wouldn't be able to start a thread about it

Temptamperu · 24-03-2021 7:38pm

Surreptitious wrote: »

Then they wouldn't be able to start a thread about it

how is that a bad thing?

murpho999 · 24-03-2021 7:44pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

How would the Irish government turn off satellite internet access provided by companies outside of the State?

They'd send up the government jet and shoot down the sattelites.

Gregor Samsa · 24-03-2021 8:06pm

murpho999 wrote: »

They'd send up the government jet and shoot down the sattelites.

Willie O’Dea with his pistol, hanging out the window, blasting away at them.

AMKC · 24-03-2021 9:54pm

No. Just take a break if you need to but don't expect whole internet to just shut down lol. That's crazy talk.

Fathom · 24-03-2021 10:01pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

This would give everyone a break and could provide us with a huge mental health boost.

Unsure that a "huge mental health boost" would follow. What would happen to all the employees who are now working from home online as a COVID social distancing adaptation? Or small businesses that shifted from store front to online because of COVID, who may be just getting by online? Or schools that shifted instruction from in-person to online distance learning for students? Or sites like boards that rely on online access to survive? To what extent would this proposed 1-week cut off drive all these folks to a "huge mental health" crash?

Galwayguy35 · 24-03-2021 10:03pm

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

This would give everyone a break and could provide us with a huge mental health boost. Also it would give people a chance to realise they were gone too into twitter and facebook etc. Even if the Government just did it from say Good Friday to late on Easter Sunday night wouldn't it give us a chance for contemplation. Should they do it?

Those of us who knew what life was like before the internet would be grand, they younger generation would probably lose their minds.

limnam · 24-03-2021 10:35pm

If there was a turn off the utter cesspit section of the internet button it might do a bit of good alright.

Although, god knows what the lunatics on twitter would do if they had some spare time, probably best left where we know where they're and what they're doing.

riclad · 24-03-2021 10:35pm

Apart from business and online learning many people use the web for tv streaming ,youtube, netflix.
podcasts, online radio.
the only countrys that switch off the web are russia,pakistan,middle eastern countrys, india, turkey, eg when they wish to stop people organising in order to protest against government curruption and the lack of human rights
and free speech .if you are using social media too much simple disable the apps on your phone.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-50819905

MissShihTzu · 25-03-2021 2:22am

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

I think the OP's plan would be that you'd do a bit of contemplation instead of working and making phone calls.

Very nice. But contemplation ain't paying my bills!!

BeerWolf · 25-03-2021 5:50am

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

This would give everyone a break and could provide us with a huge mental health boost. Also it would give people a chance to realise they were gone too into twitter and facebook etc. Even if the Government just did it from say Good Friday to late on Easter Sunday night wouldn't it give us a chance for contemplation. Should they do it?

During a lockdown, are you daft?

Sunny Disposition · 25-03-2021 10:49am

BeerWolf wrote: »

During a lockdown, are you daft?

No, I am not. But if people would rather wait until September I’d allow that.

Should the internet be turned off for a week?

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