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Should the internet be turned off for a week?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Your point about producing meat and children making clothes is very different and nothing to do with the internet.

    All you're doing is arguing for the sake of it but not making any valid or coherent point.

    I am of course, I’m saying the internet should be turned off for a week for the good of society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭thecomedian


    I am of course, I’m saying the internet should be turned off for a week for the good of society.

    Maybe a ban on social media for the week would work but to shut down the internet wouldn’t work out well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,542 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    I am of course, I’m saying the internet should be turned off for a week for the good of society.

    It's a really bad idea. Economy, communications, governments etc. All would stop.

    People would actually die as healthcare is even integrated into the internet nowadays.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    Didn't read the whole thread, just the title but for me, no!

    There are many of us who are not living with all family members and my contact with some of my kids/grandchildren is done on a call a day and internet based posts after that.

    Can I survive without talking to my children/grandchildren every day.....YES

    Do I want to.....NO

    Will my mental health suffer more or less without that contact for a week? MORE, WAY MORE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    As an amateur troll, where would I go?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Your point about producing meat and children making clothes is very different and nothing to do with the internet.

    All you're doing is arguing for the sake of it but not making any valid or coherent point.

    Pretty much sums up most of the arguments on here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Pretty much sums up most of the arguments on here.

    Exactly, if we cannot randomly argue with another human being over the internet then how else would we get that soothing feeling of being right when somebody else is wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    ELM327 wrote: »
    No

    If you can't access boards, porn or netflix during lockdown what the hell do they expect us to do

    What did they do 20 years a go or 100 years a go to keep entertained and busy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭wench


    What did they do 20 years a go or 100 years a go to keep entertained and busy?
    If they turn off the internet, how will we find out??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    You should check out the 80's thread.

    Grim but our ancestors seemed content enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,746 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    What did they do 20 years a go or 100 years a go to keep entertained and busy?

    During the plague, when everything was under lockdown, Isaac Newton was so bored he developed his theories on gravity, the laws of motion, and invented calculus...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭ShatterAlan


    This would give everyone a break and could provide us with a huge mental health boost. Also it would give people a chance to realise they were gone too into twitter and facebook etc. Even if the Government just did it from say Good Friday to late on Easter Sunday night wouldn't it give us a chance for contemplation. Should they do it?


    Are you going to pay the billions in lost revenue to all the companies and businesses who rely on internet connectivity to conduct their business?


    The internet isn't just people surfing pornsites and tweeting bullsh1t


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You should check out the 80's thread.

    Grim but our ancestors seemed content enough.

    Actually most people thought it was grand, if I recall.

    The internet has been around for my adult lifetime. Admittedly without smart phones it was a bit more limited but even smart phones are slowing down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Are you going to pay the billions in lost revenue to all the companies and businesses who rely on internet connectivity to conduct their business?


    The internet isn't just people surfing pornsites and tweeting bullsh1t

    They’ll need to roll with it and adapt. Farmers can’t make the rain stop falling, these businesses won’t be allowed keep the internet on all day and night indefinitely if the Government decide to turn it off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    They’ll need to roll with it and adapt. Farmers can’t make the rain stop falling, these businesses won’t be allowed keep the internet on all day and night indefinitely if the Government decide to turn it off.

    The government have no control over the internet. It's just a load of computers plugged together. They can no more turn it off than they can turn off the rain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    McGaggs wrote: »
    The government have no control over the internet. It's just a load of computers plugged together. They can no more turn it off than they can turn off the rain.

    Of course they can, it’s a widely believed myth they can’t. And they should.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Of course they can, it’s a widely believed myth they can’t. And they should.

    Explain how they can stop everyone in Ireland from using the internet. They would need to shut down each ISP and prevent any external ISPs from allowing access. What about MNCs in Ireland who access the internet through their home country, rather than through local services.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    McGaggs wrote: »
    Explain how they can stop everyone in Ireland from using the internet. They would need to **** down each ISP and prevent any external ISPs from allowing access. What about MNCs in Ireland who access the internet through their home country, rather than through local services.

    Rogue MNCs would be a challenge I will grant you, the rest of it can be easily done. You'd have to hope the MNCs comply for fear of reputational damage though. Will be a need for a lot of inspection and strong deterrents though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    How would the Irish government turn off satellite internet access provided by companies outside of the State?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    s8n wrote: »
    Any consideration for those who earn a living off internet based companies ?

    or

    The fact we get the majority of our entertainment & news from online sources ?

    I'm yes to both and still say get it to fk and turn it off..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    How would the Irish government turn off satellite internet access provided by companies outside of the State?

    Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.

    How could the government tell them, if they've already turned off the rest of the internet? There'd be no gov.ie email. They couldn't even look them up to get their address to send them a letter in the post. Or use Google Translate to write the letter in their language. You haven't thought this though at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.

    I'm not being awkward, I'm just asking about my own situation. When I go into the office and open Google, it gives me information based on the company's head office, as that is where the internet is accessed. They have private network connections between locations, and they all get internet access from that location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.

    It's not possible to turn off satellite internet without shutting down the entire service for all countries. Not happening


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    McGaggs wrote: »
    It's not possible to turn off satellite internet without shutting down the entire service for all countries. Not happening

    It’s not nearly as hard do as it seems, genuinely it isn’t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    McGaggs wrote: »
    I'm not being awkward, I'm just asking about my own situation. When I go into the office and open Google, it gives me information based on the company's head office, as that is where the internet is accessed. They have private network connections between locations, and they all get internet access from that location.

    Your company is using a VPN, so while the ultimate connection to websites is done though your head office's servers (and to those sites, it looks like you're connecting from that country), you're still using Irish internet infrastructure to connect to that VPN.

    If the Irish government managed to turn off the internet in Ireland, that VPN wouldn't work as it would not be able to communicate with the servers in head office in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭MissShihTzu


    Was this a serious question? How are we to work and make telephone calls (Most phone lines are VOIP). Some of us have to work over the Bank Holiday, you know!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Was this a serious question? How are we to work and make telephone calls (Most phone lines are VOIP). Some of us have to work over the Bank Holiday, you know!

    I think the OP's plan would be that you'd do a bit of contemplation instead of working and making phone calls.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭ShatterAlan


    They’ll need to roll with it and adapt. Farmers can’t make the rain stop falling, these businesses won’t be allowed keep the internet on all day and night indefinitely if the Government decide to turn it off.


    What are you on?


    How can the government decide to "turn off" the internet? It's not like you flip a switch and the internet is "turned off". It's a global mesh of interconnected computers.


    And you talk about businesses needing to "roll with it". What kind of inane statement is that. Outside of the SWIFT network for money transactions, nobody will be able to make online bank payments, companies can't place or fulfill orders, datacenters can't be backed up, they can't even be monitored. As an engineer I could stay here all day boring the tits off you with what couldn't be done if the internet was "switched off" and then the ensuing mess once it is "turned back on".


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    What are you on?


    How can the government decide to "turn off" the internet? It's not like you flip a switch and the internet is "turned off". It's a global mesh of interconnected computers.


    And you talk about businesses needing to "roll with it". What kind of inane statement is that. Outside of the SWIFT network for money transactions, nobody will be able to make online bank payments, companies can't place or fulfill orders, datacenters can't be backed up, they can't even be monitored. As an engineer I could stay here all day boring the tits off you with what couldn't be done if the internet was "switched off" and then the ensuing mess once it is "turned back on".

    It’s actually not that different from flicking a switch given a nation state’s power, strange as it may seem.
    Yeah, it will cause disruption, there’s no doubt, but you wouldn’t tell an alcoholic to keep drinking in case he’d find it the first few days off the drink hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,800 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    It’s actually not that different from flicking a switch given a nation state’s power, strange as it may seem.
    Yeah, it will cause disruption, there’s no doubt, but you wouldn’t tell an alcoholic to keep drinking in case he’d find it the first few days off the drink hard.

    Alcoholism is a disease.

    The internet by and large is a positive social, business, commerce, electronic mail platform that’s also used for governance, banking, security, transportation, for delivery of healthcare etc... so cause disruption ? It would cause deaths most likely...

    That’s for starters... Sunny Disposition needs to get some Sunny Delight if they think that switching off the internet is a good thing...the vitamin D and C work wonders.. I’m told..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Strumms wrote: »
    Alcoholism is a disease.

    The internet by and large is a positive social, business, commerce, electronic mail platform that’s also used for governance, banking, security, transportation, for delivery of healthcare etc... so cause disruption ? It would cause deaths most likely...

    That’s for starters... Sunny Disposition needs to get some Sunny Delight if they think that switching off the internet is a good thing...the vitamin D and C work wonders.. I’m told..

    You’re just being abusive, not engaging in serious debate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    It’s not nearly as hard do as it seems, genuinely it isn’t.

    How do you think we are able to watch satellite TV channels that aren't intended for us?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Your company is using a VPN, so while the ultimate connection to websites is done though your head office's servers (and to those sites, it looks like you're connecting from that country), you're still using Irish internet infrastructure to connect to that VPN.

    If the Irish government managed to turn off the internet in Ireland, that VPN wouldn't work as it would not be able to communicate with the servers in head office in the first place.

    Someone in IT once told me the company had their own cables that the data went through. Of that person was correct, it'd be unaffected by an internet switch off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    It’s actually not that different from flicking a switch given a nation state’s power, strange as it may seem.
    Yeah, it will cause disruption, there’s no doubt, but you wouldn’t tell an alcoholic to keep drinking in case he’d find it the first few days off the drink hard.

    A better analogy would be trying to turn off the electric grid because some alcoholics are using electric stills to make their own alcohol, and to hell with all the hospitals, schools, businesses arc that need power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Can OP not just turn his own internet off and leave the rest of us alone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    McGaggs wrote: »
    Someone in IT once told me the company had their own cables that the data went through. Of that person was correct, it'd be unaffected by an internet switch off.

    Think about it. Your company has not strung its own optic fibre cables from your office in Ireland, under the ground or via poles to the coast, then across the sea bed, to the coast of some other country, then back up into land and either under the ground or via poles all the way to the HQ office, just for its own use. Even if your company was Google, they have not done that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Can OP not just turn his own internet off and leave the rest of us alone?

    Then they wouldn't be able to start a thread about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Then they wouldn't be able to start a thread about it

    how is that a bad thing? :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,542 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    How would the Irish government turn off satellite internet access provided by companies outside of the State?

    They'd send up the government jet and shoot down the sattelites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    murpho999 wrote: »
    They'd send up the government jet and shoot down the sattelites.

    Willie O’Dea with his pistol, hanging out the window, blasting away at them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    No. Just take a break if you need to but don't expect whole internet to just shut down lol. That's crazy talk.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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    This would give everyone a break and could provide us with a huge mental health boost.
    Unsure that a "huge mental health boost" would follow. What would happen to all the employees who are now working from home online as a COVID social distancing adaptation? Or small businesses that shifted from store front to online because of COVID, who may be just getting by online? Or schools that shifted instruction from in-person to online distance learning for students? Or sites like boards that rely on online access to survive? To what extent would this proposed 1-week cut off drive all these folks to a "huge mental health" crash?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,669 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    This would give everyone a break and could provide us with a huge mental health boost. Also it would give people a chance to realise they were gone too into twitter and facebook etc. Even if the Government just did it from say Good Friday to late on Easter Sunday night wouldn't it give us a chance for contemplation. Should they do it?

    Those of us who knew what life was like before the internet would be grand, they younger generation would probably lose their minds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭limnam


    If there was a turn off the utter cesspit section of the internet button it might do a bit of good alright.

    Although, god knows what the lunatics on twitter would do if they had some spare time, probably best left where we know where they're and what they're doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Apart from business and online learning many people use the web for tv streaming ,youtube, netflix.
    podcasts, online radio.
    the only countrys that switch off the web are russia,pakistan,middle eastern countrys, india, turkey, eg when they wish to stop people organising in order to protest against government curruption and the lack of human rights
    and free speech .if you are using social media too much simple disable the apps on your phone.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-50819905


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭MissShihTzu


    I think the OP's plan would be that you'd do a bit of contemplation instead of working and making phone calls.

    Very nice. But contemplation ain't paying my bills!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    This would give everyone a break and could provide us with a huge mental health boost. Also it would give people a chance to realise they were gone too into twitter and facebook etc. Even if the Government just did it from say Good Friday to late on Easter Sunday night wouldn't it give us a chance for contemplation. Should they do it?

    During a lockdown, are you daft?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    During a lockdown, are you daft?

    No, I am not. But if people would rather wait until September I’d allow that.


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