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Average salary at €47,000

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    #62
    DellyBelly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    dinorebel wrote: »
    This is Boards average salary here is about 80k if people are to be believed.

    If they are all Dublin based I could well believe that would be the average earning. Outside Dublin I doubt it is that high. Wages are booming as far as I can tell. Of course that's amongst companions of mine


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    #63
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    endacl wrote: »
    Does enjoying it necessarily equate to the accumulation of ‘stuff’ though? I drive a 15 year old car, because I like it. If I go out, I like to go for 3-4 pints. If my income was halved, that wouldn’t change. Likewise, if it doubled.

    To me yes, there are plenty of things I don’t have purely because I’m not in a position to afford them. Once the money is available they will be bought.


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    #64
    2 fast
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    MichaelKnee wrote: »
    Isn't it fair to increase the higher tax bracket above this?

    On what planet is the average salary 47k!


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    #65
    MichaelKnee
    Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭MichaelKnee


    2 fast wrote: »
    On what planet is the average salary 47k!

    The CSO statistics. Median is 37k.


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    #66
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,807 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I was only looking at the Living Wage document tonight, and I was going to start a thread about it, but it'll fit in here.

    €47k average and €37k median. According to that crowd, the living wage should be €25198.24 for One Adult, Employed Full-Time. Living alone, no dependents. In that document, I noticed some very wrong suggestions, for me at least:

    Insurance (health): €9.71 per week, mine is €18.75 pw.
    Insurance (car): €7.52 pw (€392 per year), mine is €21.67 pw.
    Communications: €9.20 pw (I'd imagine this is phone/internet), mine is €15 pw (just fibre 150 (lowest) and €20 pm topup)
    Housing: €91.96 pw (which I'm guessing is rent), which is sub €400 per month. Who can get rent by themselves for that?

    That's just some examples, and it shows how incorrect it can be. Maybe there are some out there, but it looks like they picked the lowest figure for each category and went with that, regardless of the actual cost of things. Then again, the research and calculations were done by Vincentian Partnership for Social Justice, so not sure how much I trust a church run organisation...


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    #67
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    Housing: €91.96 pw (which I'm guessing is rent), which is sub €400 per month. Who can get rent by themselves for that? .

    And this also excludes things like bills. My "housing cost" is bacially €500 per week. That's for rent, electricity and gas. No other bills included in that. For me, you'd need at least €36k into your pocket to live etc in Dublin


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    #68
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    Living alone is not something that should be considered part of the living wage, share or live at home if possible but you don’t need to live alone to be considered “living”.


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    #69
    noodler
    Registered Users Posts: 26,179 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    MichaelKnee wrote: »
    https://ie.neuvoo.com/salary/

    CSO says 37k


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    #70
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Yes let's punish people for educating themselves and working hard to get ahead.

    Otherwise known as "fairness and equality"


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    #71
    tastyt
    Registered Users Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭tastyt


    People on boards think the average person in Ireland works in IT or high finance roles.

    Delusional and out of touch with the real world.

    Or maybe just smug and self satisfied and enjoy letting everyone know how much they earn .


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    #72
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 18,910 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    47 grand is not the average salary in this country. Not even bloody close.


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    #73
    Oranage2
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    Tony EH wrote: »
    47 grand is not the average salary in this country. Not even bloody close.

    What is it?


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    #74
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 18,910 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    What is it?

    It's in the 30's somewhere. It's certainly not 47,000 a year.


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    #75
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    People get hung up on tax that they pay but what's equally as important is the services that we get back.

    I'd gladly pay higher personal tax to have public services on par with Scandinavian countries.

    It's not all about an extra tenner in your back pocket.

    Until we sort the waste and corruption in public services you'd be as well just burn the money. Accountability has to be enforced. We spend more per head than many others but don't get half the return.


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    #76
    RandomViewer
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    Tony EH wrote: »
    It's in the 30's somewhere. It's certainly not 47,000 a year.

    35 k median, 21 k disposable income.


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    #77
    [Deleted User]
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    Tony EH wrote: »
    It's in the 30's somewhere. It's certainly not 47,000 a year.

    Are you saying the people doing the stats are lying as the figures show that it’s 47k.


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    #78
    RandomViewer
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    DellyBelly wrote: »
    If they are all Dublin based I could well believe that would be the average earning. Outside Dublin I doubt it is that high. Wages are booming as far as I can tell. Of course that's amongst companions of mine

    Can't see it, Dublin has more service industry jobs than anything eels, minimum wage or a Euro or so above it,


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    #79
    Tony EH
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    Leland Melted Rumor wrote: »
    Are you saying the people doing the stats are lying as the figures show that it’s 47k.

    I'm saying I don't buy it.


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    #80
    RandomViewer
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    Idbatterim wrote: »
    the working poor here are hit by the FIFTY percent marginal rate. No water charges, as good as no LPT, low income earners paying in nearly nothing, in terms of tax take. Its a farce, basically hit the mid to high income workers (other than corporation tax) to pay for everything. Its ok though, they only make up 20-25% of the electorate, likely less, so we can still give them a **** deal and buy off ther majority :rolleyes:

    Also people saying "raise the rate" from FIFTY percent over low income are fools, who have no idea how things work. I have people turning down extra hours at E35 hour, because of the marginal rate! Who wins in that case!

    Overtime isn't worth the bother if you r E35 is less than normal rate in reality after tax. Gift vouchers or extra holidays is a better option


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    #81
    Salary Negotiator
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    Leland Melted Rumor wrote: »
    Are you saying the people doing the stats are lying as the figures show that it’s 47k.

    More likely that the poster doesn’t understand the difference between average and median.


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    #82
    noodler
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    Leland Melted Rumor wrote: »
    Are you saying the people doing the stats are lying as the figures show that it’s 47k.

    CSO.

    37k


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    #83
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 18,910 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Salary Negotiator wrote: »
    More likely that the poster doesn’t understand the difference between average and median.

    That poster does understand the difference.

    That poster just doesn't buy the result offered. It simply doesn't sound right.


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    Potential-Monke
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    Leland Melted Rumor wrote: »
    Living alone is not something that should be considered part of the living wage, share or live at home if possible but you don’t need to live alone to be considered “living”.

    But how else do we see how much a single person 'needs' to be able to live by themselves in their own place? I'm single and would love a place of my own, but I'm on €37k and while I'm sure I could find a crappy little bedsit for €1k a month, I'd have nothing left to enjoy my life with.


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    #85
    JohnnyFlash
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    I own a few apartments in the Ringsend area. I only rent to Italians as they are they wonderful tenants. They all work in tech, and the average salary would be closer to 90k that 47k.


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    #86
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    But how else do we see how much a single person 'needs' to be able to live by themselves in their own place? I'm single and would love a place of my own, but I'm on €37k and while I'm sure I could find a crappy little bedsit for €1k a month, I'd have nothing left to enjoy my life with.

    I live alone in a 2 bed room apartment. I have kids. I can't rent with someone else, as I have kids. I pretty much have to live on my own, so my kids have somewhere safe to stay.

    There are so many nuances to things, and that's the problem. Salary - Rent + Bills + Stuff for the kids = no money for myself. I'd love an extra €200 a month from tax relief. Doesn't sound like much, but that would give me the ability to actually live my life a bit


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    #87
    pinkyeye
    Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    Leland Melted Rumor wrote: »
    Living alone is not something that should be considered part of the living wage, share or live at home if possible but you don’t need to live alone to be considered “living”.

    What??? So living alone means you share with others or live at home??

    What world are you living in where all single people do this? Or should have to??

    Are you trying to suggest that living alone is not something anyone should aspire to, everyone should aim to be married for life??


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    #88
    Pawwed Rig
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    antodeco wrote: »
    I live alone in a 2 bed room apartment. I have kids. I can't rent with someone else, as I have kids. I pretty much have to live on my own, so my kids have somewhere safe to stayt
    But your not living alone if you live with your kids:confused:


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    #89
    Pac1Man
    Registered Users Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    But your not living alone if you live with your kids:confused:

    Maybe the kids come over and stay at the weekends.


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    pinkyeye wrote: »
    What??? So living alone means you share with others or live at home??

    What world are you living in where all single people do this? Or should have to??

    Are you trying to suggest that living alone is not something anyone should aspire to, everyone should aim to be married for life??

    Of course you should aspire to having your own home but this is a discussion on the living wage. A concept that is defined as what is needed to meet the most basic needs of living. Living alone for a single person is not a basic need.

    The vast majority of people either live at home or share until they earn enough to buy or rent their own place.


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    #91
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    People get hung up on tax that they pay but what's equally as important is the services that we get back.

    I'd gladly pay higher personal tax to have public services on par with Scandinavian countries.

    It's not all about an extra tenner in your back pocket.

    It's funny that you'd never hear that from anyone on a low income that is barely paying any tax at all.
    SF are proposing to cut USC for under 30k earners. Do those people not want to have Scandanavian style services?


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