New housing developments in Maynooth

TheBody · 07-05-2017 8:30pm

L1011 wrote: »

That one was cut to 181 in further info. That only landed a few weeks ago and the decision date is set to "n/a" so I don't know when the actual decision deadline is now.

Is this Mooney's site that is just behind Old Greenfield? Where they recently opened up the road onto the Straffen road?

L1011 · 07-05-2017 11:53pm

TheBody wrote: »

Is this Mooney's site that is just behind Old Greenfield? Where they recently opened up the road onto the Straffen road?

No. 181 would require Manor Mills style density there (although we may need that in the future...). This is behind Lidl/Carton Court.

yellow hen · 08-05-2017 7:41am

ixus wrote: »

Per kfm radio site:

decision is imminent on the application of planning permission for a residential development in Greenfield Maynooth.
Kelston Properties Limited are seeking permission to build two-hundred-and-fourteen new homes, a 2-story créche, and a number of ancillary development works including a link road on the site.

214? That seems like alot. How many were in Hayfield or the new Carton developments?

TheBody · 08-05-2017 7:46am

L1011 wrote: »

No. 181 would require Manor Mills style density there (although we may need that in the future...). This is behind Lidl/Carton Court.

Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks for that.

ghostdancer · 08-05-2017 10:50am

so am I right in thinking that the current road at the end of Griffin Rath that ends abruptly, will join to the road between Lidl and Bartons? and this Kelston development would be adjacent to that road? (or either side of it?)

L1011 · 08-05-2017 12:45pm

ghostdancer wrote: »

so am I right in thinking that the current road at the end of Griffin Rath that ends abruptly, will join to the road between Lidl and Bartons? and this Kelston development would be adjacent to that road? (or either side of it?)

Yes. Either side.

Giuseppe90 · 08-05-2017 1:44pm

There is another request for further information sent to developers on the 05/05

ixus · 08-05-2017 2:36pm

Carton Grove Phase 1 now showing as sold out for 17 houses on daft. Didn't see them being launched or prices. Seems odd they would not test market for prices. Wonder did someone lift the lot of them.

dhlane · 09-05-2017 8:59pm

They sold Carton Grove Phase 1 off the plans.

ixus · 17-06-2017 9:09pm

Maynooth Traffic Management Plan available on Kildare Ciunty Council site.

Per Labour news:

Maynooth Traffic Management Plan on Display
The Proposed Maynooth Traffic Management Plan is now available on the Council's website at

http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/RoadsandTransportation/TrafficManagementPlans/

Comments on the Proposed Traffic Management Plan can be submitted to roadssubmissions@kildarecoco.ie

Cllr. John McGinley gave a summary of the Plan in the June edition of the Maynooth Newsletter.
There will be a public information meeting in the Glenroyal on Wednesday evening 28 June and after that the Traffic Management Plan will be published. While it is not a Statutory process the public are free to make comments

L1011 · 17-06-2017 9:22pm

No mention of the factors which make the traffic count nonsense and we were told would be "corrected" (college finished for the year, Irish Open in Straffan making the weekend traffic insane). So its still complete nonsense.

I really hope whoever commissioned the count for then is made pay for the complete new plan that'll be needed.

Rosahane · 18-06-2017 8:23am

I've had an, admittedly, very quick scan through it and am perplexed by the emphasis on the link road between the R405 Celbridge Road and Lidl.
I can't see what major traffic problem this will address. Maybe I'm missing something by not reading it properly.

Lastblackdog · 18-06-2017 9:47am

Rosahane wrote: »

I've had an, admittedly, very quick scan through it and am perplexed by the emphasis on the link road between the R405 Celbridge Road and Lidl.
I can't see what major traffic problem this will address. Maybe I'm missing something by not reading it properly.

Don't look at it in isolation. See it as part of a Southern Bypass from the Dublin Road all the way around to the Kilcock Road.

In addition, people commuting from the Dunboyne direction but who live to the south of the town (Straffan Wood for example) would be able to avoid the town centre.

See page 80 - 4.8.2 Straffan Road (R406) to the Celbridge Road (R405)

Rosahane · 18-06-2017 1:24pm

Lastblackdog wrote: »

Don't look at it in isolation. See it as part of a Southern Bypass from the Dublin Road all the way around to the Kilcock Road.

In addition, people commuting from the Dunboyne direction but who live to the south of the town (Straffan Wood for example) would be able to avoid the town centre.

See page 80 - 4.8.2 Straffan Road (R406) to the Celbridge Road (R405)

I can see all that, but from, as I've already said, a quick scan of the plan it appears that the council see the piece between the Celbridge Rd. and Lidl as being a priority. Not the piece that would join up the Leixlip and Celbridge Roads.
The map shows this traffic coming back towards Leixlip, turning right over the canal at the gates of Carton to get to the Celbridge Road and then on to the new Lidl link Road.

L1011 · 18-06-2017 3:59pm

It's only shown as first to be delivered as it's mostly built already

ixus · 28-06-2017 10:58am

Reminder this is in the Glenroyal tonight from 6:30-8:30.

ixus wrote: »

Maynooth Traffic Management Plan available on Kildare Ciunty Council site.

Per Labour news:

Maynooth Traffic Management Plan on Display
The Proposed Maynooth Traffic Management Plan is now available on the Council's website at

http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/RoadsandTransportation/TrafficManagementPlans/

Comments on the Proposed Traffic Management Plan can be submitted to roadssubmissions@kildarecoco.ie

Cllr. John McGinley gave a summary of the Plan in the June edition of the Maynooth Newsletter.
There will be a public information meeting in the Glenroyal on Wednesday evening 28 June and after that the Traffic Management Plan will be published. While it is not a Statutory process the public are free to make comments

Giuseppe90 · 29-06-2017 11:48am

161153 - planning for the development behind Lidl has been granted

ixus · 29-06-2017 12:24pm

Wow. Thought the flooding would be an issue for ABP but then Meath gave it to that site on Kilcock Maynooth Rd. That's that leg of the ring road sorted then.

L1011 · 29-06-2017 12:36pm

Giuseppe90 wrote: »

161153 - planning for the development behind Lidl has been granted

Grant letter isn't up, I imagine - from all the FI requests and the statutory reports - that there'll be a wall of conditions.

The person who scans stuff in Planning must be on holiday as I'm waiting two weeks for some docs on another I want to see!

lordgoat · 30-06-2017 7:36pm

ixus wrote: »

Reminder this is in the Glenroyal tonight from 6:30-8:30.

Anything happen at this?

ixus · 30-06-2017 9:43pm

lordgoat wrote: »

Anything happen at this?

It was an information evening in the sense that the layouts, that you can see on the Kildare CoCo website, were on display. Three Aecom (think that's there name) were on hand to discuss any thoughts/ questions. Clr Murray & Mc Evoy were also on hand when I was there.

Submissions and comments are invited. No closing date, though probably not a good thing.

With Kelston beside Lidl receiving approval, Meath section approved and funding from govt for Celbridge to Leixlip, Also, school Moyglare section to be upgraded. I can see developments in the next 24 months but you never know with appeals etc.

There are further/additional updates in Liffey Champion today.

happiness10101 · 09-07-2017 10:21pm

Hello, unrelated to road network and traffic but has anyone heard if there is a new creche opening in the unit next to Boots?

L1011 · 28-09-2017 1:40pm

The new Strategic Housing Development process lets developers skip the council and go straight to ABP. After a few recent cases where ABP has been more lenient than the council I'm sure developers are delighted.

Two in so far for Maynooth from the fairly few applied for:

TC0024 - Cairn Homes, 332 houses, 71 apartments, 476 student beds + retail. This is a huge site across the north of the town and should include a new road from the Dunboyne Road to the Moyglare Road (but not the ring road segment, much further in)

TC0025 - Ladas Property, 138 apartments and retail. Location is just "Mill Street" This, I suspect, is the former Rectory site that is currently a surface car park.

One disadvantage of this system, so far at least, is the total lack of files for the public to view.

wickedelphie66 · 28-09-2017 2:59pm

Hi there. Would anyone have any info on the planned launch of new houses up the Moyglare Rd in early 2018?

Stealthirl · 12-10-2017 12:06pm

L1011 wrote: »

Two in so far for Maynooth from the fairly few applied for:

TC0024 - Cairn Homes, 332 houses, 71 apartments, 476 student beds + retail. This is a huge site across the north of the town and should include a new road from the Dunboyne Road to the Moyglare Road (but not the ring road segment, much further in)

TC0025 - Ladas Property, 138 apartments and retail. Location is just "Mill Street" This, I suspect, is the former Rectory site that is currently a surface car park.

Would TC0024 be between Moyglare hall and the Dunboyne Rd and TC0025 be the carpark beside the fire station ?

L1011 · 12-10-2017 12:07pm

As far as I can tell, yes to both.

L1011 · 12-10-2017 12:45pm

Just been reminded where Mill Street actually is. TC0025 is the site beside the church, opposite Dunnes

Grayson · 12-10-2017 2:00pm

Stealthirl wrote: »

Would TC0024 be between Moyglare hall and the Dunboyne Rd and TC0025 be the carpark beside the fire station ?

Isn't Mill street the street outside manor mills? manor mills used to be a mill. So it could be the big empty wasteland directly opposite Manor Mills.

L1011 · 12-10-2017 2:58pm

Grayson wrote: »

Isn't Mill street the street outside manor mills? manor mills used to be a mill. So it could be the big empty wasteland directly opposite Manor Mills.

It is. I was wrong in my original post they they quoted. The site I thought it was is actually Leinster Street

Planning for the Mill Street site was originally granted in the mid 00s, extended and expired last summer

ixus · 18-10-2017 5:44pm

Oh how I remember the days when I had huge reservations about the detached in Castlepark. 380k for the 4 bed detached. Was interested but the whole pyrite in Enfield issue and protests put me off. Then there was the madness of 400k, 440k and finally, 500k sealed bids. Insane stuff I said.

Well, someone thinks their gaff is now work 695k or double what they paid for it if they bought at the first phase which Im guessing.

If they achieve anything like that, it will set a new barometer of madness in Maynooth. Wonder are they getting out before the view is ruined by 400 odd units.

Edit: This never made the propertypriceregister with all the others in 2012, so I guess developer held onto it.

L1011 · 18-10-2017 6:07pm

I asked my bank to change me from a >80% ltv to a <50% one due to renovations and payments reducing the amount and they didn't even want a revaluation due to the increase in prices here. That was a year ago!

ixus · 18-10-2017 7:00pm

Someone got sick of living beside McDonalds & Tesco petrol station in Limetree. Bought for 495k in April, up for 525k now.

hp1 · 18-10-2017 9:27pm

ixus wrote: »

Oh how I remember the days when I had huge reservations about the detached in Castlepark. 350k for the 4 bed detached. Was interested but the whole pyrite in Enfield issue and protests put me off. Then there was the madness of 400k, 440k and finally, 500k sealed bids. Insane stuff I said.

Well, someone thinks their gaff is now work 695k or double what they paid for it if they bought at the first phase which Im guessing.

If they achieve anything like that, it will set a new barometer of madness in Maynooth. Wonder are they getting out before the view is ruined by 400 odd units.

It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Judging by the photos this one is not at the front of the estate so their view will be the same regardless of any future development. Crazy rise in prices though I'll give you that!

you2008 · 19-10-2017 4:16pm

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The funny side is - I think the builder told me there is no any building cross the rd:D - not sure how the god he no that - back to 2012 :rolleyes::rolleyes:

highdef · 19-10-2017 5:26pm

ixus wrote: »

Someone got sick of living beside McDonalds & Tesco petrol station in Limetree. Bought for 495k in April, up for 525k now.

Wow, and that house is pretty much on top of the roundabout.....I wouldn't have purchased that house for 195k, never mind 495k, back in April! I can only imagine the constant noise of traffic. Having a relaxing snooze in the back garden on a summers afternoon does not sound like something that one could do at this busy roadside dwelling.

L1011 · 19-10-2017 5:29pm

Anywhere south of the canal you need to be accustomed to the drone of the M4 to ever consider it peaceful - and further in you can hear the station announcements. Maynooth is not a quiet town by anyones standards!

Cakes and Ale · 25-10-2017 9:45am

L1011 wrote: »

Anywhere south of the canal you need to be accustomed to the drone of the M4 to ever consider it peaceful - and further in you can hear the station announcements. Maynooth is not a quiet town by anyones standards!

This is a bit OTT - am in one of the estates past the Greenfield shopping centre and the M4 isn't noticeable at all - certainly the back garden is peaceful enough to sit in during the summer. Any noise comes from the Straffan Road, which is very busy.

L1011 · 25-10-2017 11:21am

Cakes and Ale wrote: »

This is a bit OTT - am in one of the estates past the Greenfield shopping centre and the M4 isn't noticeable at all - certainly the back garden is peaceful enough to sit in during the summer. Any noise comes from the Straffan Road, which is very busy.

You've got used to it then!

Staplor · 26-10-2017 6:32am

L1011 wrote: »

You've got used to it then!

Agreed, especially early in the morning while the immediate area is very quiet.

Grayson · 01-11-2017 11:47am

L1011 wrote: »

You've got used to it then!

I lived in carton court and never noticed it. Then I lived in Straffen wood in a house at the back and a bedroom window that faced the motorway, I really noticed it there.

Moonbeam · 01-11-2017 4:53pm

I also live beside the Greenfield shopping centre and have no double glazing and the noise doesn't bother me but it definitely isn't quite,at the back of the house you can hear the motorway hum and at the front The Straffan Road.
It is quite as in there are no student houses etc but there is alot of road noise and sirens and alarms.

ixus · 15-11-2017 8:49pm

650k now. No bidders at 695k i guess.

ixus wrote: »

Oh how I remember the days when I had huge reservations about the detached in Castlepark. 380k for the 4 bed detached. Was interested but the whole pyrite in Enfield issue and protests put me off. Then there was the madness of 400k, 440k and finally, 500k sealed bids. Insane stuff I said.

Well, someone thinks their gaff is now work 695k or double what they paid for it if they bought at the first phase which Im guessing.

If they achieve anything like that, it will set a new barometer of madness in Maynooth. Wonder are they getting out before the view is ruined by 400 odd units.

Edit: This never made the propertypriceregister with all the others in 2012, so I guess developer held onto it.

lordgoat · 18-11-2017 10:48am

ixus wrote: »

650k now. No bidders at 695k i guess.

Be interesting to see what this goes for, but if a 6 bed semi d in kingsbury goes for 410k, i'd say north of 550k. Not sure if he will get 650 but just glad we closed recently before having to deal with this!

hp1 · 18-11-2017 11:04am

lordgoat wrote: »

Be interesting to see what this goes for, but if a 6 bed semi d in kingsbury goes for 410k, i'd say north of 550k. Not sure if he will get 650 but just glad we closed recently before having to deal with this!

https://m.myhome.ie/priceregister/25-castlepark-square-maynooth-532813

Well if this went for 565k in 2015 you’d have to believe it would go for more than that. Maybe 565 was over the odds at the time though.

lordgoat · 21-11-2017 8:30pm

hp1 wrote: »

https://m.myhome.ie/priceregister/25-castlepark-square-maynooth-532813

Well if this went for 565k in 2015 you’d have to believe it would go for more than that. Maybe 565 was over the odds at the time though.

https://propertypriceregisterireland.com/details/25_castlepark_drive_dunboyne_road_maynooth_co_kildare_ireland-160060/

In 2016 maybe....

L1011 · 21-11-2017 8:35pm

391k with VAT (new build then).

hp1 · 21-11-2017 11:26pm

lordgoat wrote: »

https://propertypriceregisterireland.com/details/25_castlepark_drive_dunboyne_road_maynooth_co_kildare_ireland-160060/

In 2016 maybe....

That’s a different house. Address is different. Possibly semi detached.

ghostdancer · 22-11-2017 10:13am

yeah, 344k is Castlepark Drive, i'd say it's a 3-bed semi.

Gile_na_gile · 19-12-2017 4:11pm

Slightly on the side, but I note there are so few streetfacing townhouses built or for sale, and only these identikit developer-led suburban off-road houses, designed to cleanse your soul. The KCC plan has big ideas to develop all that area between the railway station and the Roost, but of course, nothing has happened. This would have been a medium density town extension rather than another 'family-friendly' breeding ground with a cheesy D4 name. It is an individual judgement, but I find it is a pity as living in town, rather than a drive from town, is much better socially for all ages, yet all I see is endless estates and and endless traffic.

I hear they may pedestrianise main street when the ringroad gets built at some vague point in the future, which will probably render the town centre even more like an oddity rather than being the town itself. In a way, it is too late to save Maynooth as it is ringfenced already with massive shopping centres and dull estates and industrial use. Maynooth is now more the drab house and a strip of shops with parking than anything properly urban like its Estate Village and Seminary/University core.

tastyt · 21-12-2017 1:21pm

Hey guys,

I know its not a new development but there are houses within the price range im looking at 300 to 350 in Meadowbrook.

Im just wondering is this a hot spot for students and is it less settled than other estates.

Any advice appreciated