World Boxing Super Series Thread

normanoffside · 04-02-2018 12:07am

Avni Yildirim

Great stuff.

megadodge · 04-02-2018 12:07am

Well done Gassiev. Great finish. He showed me more in that fight than his entire career up to now.

However, he will lose widely to Usyk.

Henno30 · 04-02-2018 12:08am

Rob Brant

Great performance by Gassiev. Boxed the ears off him and then knocked him out.

Henno30 · 04-02-2018 12:09am

Rob Brant

megadodge wrote: »

Well done Gassiev. Great finish. He showed me more in that fight than his entire career up to now.

However, he will lose widely to Usyk.

Yeah Usyk should beat him handily.

Auroras_encore · 04-02-2018 12:10am

Henno30 wrote: »

Yeah Usyk should beat him handily.

Absolute nonsense no cruiserweight beats him easily

qwabercd · 04-02-2018 12:11am

Rob Brant

Incredible chin and heart from dorticos.

Henno30 · 04-02-2018 12:12am

Rob Brant

Auroras_encore wrote: »

Absolute nonsense no cruiserweight beats him easily

Usyk will I think.

Morrison J · 04-02-2018 12:15am

Avni Yildirim

Dunno what Gassiev has to do to impress people to be honest. That was perfect. How does Usyk beat him so easy? I'd prob make him favourite but it's a brilliant fight.

Auroras_encore · 04-02-2018 12:16am

Henno30 wrote: »

Usyk will I think.

If Usyk fights him like he fought briedis, he'll be looking at the ceiling, gassiev just showed even an iron chin will crack if hit enough

Henno30 · 04-02-2018 12:18am

Rob Brant

Morrison J wrote: »

Dunno what Gassiev has to do to impress people to be honest. That was perfect. How does Usyk beat him so easy? I'd prob make him favourite but it's a brilliant fight.

It was a great performance but I think Usyk is much better than Dorticos in every way.

titan18 · 04-02-2018 12:18am

I'd have Usyk as the favourite, but it's not a given. I thought his body work was very impressive tonight

Urindanger · 04-02-2018 12:19am

Gassiev is a more polished fighter than Golovkin in my opinion. The final has fight of the decade potential. Gassiev is going to cause havoc at HW win or lose. He's a machine and he's only 24!!

Morrison J · 04-02-2018 12:19am

Avni Yildirim

Henno30 wrote: »

It was a great performance but I think Usyk is much better than Dorticos in every way.

Gassiev is also much better than Briedis imo. Works both ways!

selectamatic · 04-02-2018 12:21am

Mairis Briedis

Morrison J wrote: »

Dunno what Gassiev has to do to impress people to be honest. That was perfect. How does Usyk beat him so easy? I'd prob make him favourite but it's a brilliant fight.

Agree with this, the easy comments are way ott. That was a great display from Gassiev. I'd have the final as being a very close affair especially after last weeks performance from Usyk. Don't get me wrong it was a good showing but it certainly showed he's human and hittable especially through the guard.

Henno30 · 04-02-2018 12:23am

Rob Brant

Urindanger wrote: »

Gassiev is a more polished fighter than Golovkin in my opinion. The final has fight of the decade potential. Gassiev is going to cause havoc at HW win or lose. He's a machine and he's only 24!!

Certainly a lot more precise than the Golovkin we see these days. He was stringing beautiful shots together all night.

normanoffside · 04-02-2018 12:24am

Avni Yildirim

Great fight, Dorticos showed a great chin and fitness but just could't land the big right and eventually ran out of energy.
Iron is a great nickname for Gassiev as that sums him up well.

All that said, I can't see anything other than a Usyk pys win in the final

Morrison J · 04-02-2018 12:25am

Avni Yildirim

That's pretty much exactly how GGG needs to fight Canelo in May. Concentrate on the body shots to slow him down before taking him out late.

Urindanger · 04-02-2018 12:25am

Henno30 wrote: »

Certainly a lot more precise than the Golovkin we see these days. He was stringing beautiful shots together all night.

Almost fights like a hybrid of Golovkin and Canelo. I love how he's so respectful as well. Smiling and nodding to the opponent after each round and at one point even let out a Ric Flair "Wooooo". Abel Sanchez has a right nugget in his hands.

Henno30 · 04-02-2018 12:28am

Rob Brant

Seems to have a very good temperament as well. Stayed very disciplined and stuck to the gameplan all night. Can't remember him being caught out of position at any point.

nacho libre · 04-02-2018 4:59am

Avni Yildirim

The fight panned out as i thought it would. Gassiev doing the better work overall, and Dorticos not landing many clean punches through out.

walshb · 04-02-2018 11:31am

Rob Brant

Urindanger wrote: »

Gassiev is a more polished fighter than Golovkin in my opinion. The final has fight of the decade potential. Gassiev is going to cause havoc at HW win or lose. He's a machine and he's only 24!!

In relation to HW.

I am not really seeing this. The fight last night was nip and tuck for many rds. Dorticos did the exact same thing on offense the whole night.. only towards the end did Gassiev have real success..

I’d give Usyk more potential than Gassiev at HW..

Usyk/Gassiev? Usyk’s to lose. Should win clear on points, unless he gets knocked out? I don’t think Gassiev is a real one hit wow KO hitter.

megadodge · 04-02-2018 11:38am

nacho libre wrote: »

The fight panned out as i thought it would. Gassiev doing the better work overall, and Dorticos not landing many clean punches through out.

You certainly called it right.

The bit that surprised me was Gassiev's defense, though he was helped by a really predictable offense from Dorticos. Still, he blocked that 1-2 the whole fight, never actually got caught clean even once, which shows excellent concentration.

normanoffside · 04-02-2018 11:53am

Avni Yildirim

The Judges had it 6-5, 7-4 and 7-4 (all to Gassiev) going into the last round.

nacho libre · 04-02-2018 7:27pm

Avni Yildirim

walshb wrote: »

I don’t think Gassiev is a real one hit wow KO hitter.

Neither is Uysk. Uysk should win the final. I think he will comprehensively out point Gassiev.
He is big for a cruiserweight and a skillful fighter, but if he steps up in weight i can't see him being a force at heavyweight. He does not have the power to deter the bigger men from getting to him. Can he take the power from the likes of Wilder and Joshua, i very much doubt it.

Henno30 · 04-02-2018 10:28pm

Rob Brant

Gassiev is a classy guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS78Xp5-4Hs

nacho libre · 05-02-2018 12:58am

Avni Yildirim

Henno30 wrote: »

Gassiev is a classy guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS78Xp5-4Hs

Bellew and Haye could learn a thing or two from this guy.

walshb · 05-02-2018 11:39am

Rob Brant

Breidis got to Usyk fairly comfortable all night.

Can Gassiev?

I would have to make Usyk a warm favorite here, but could he be countered heavy for a possible TKO/KO?

RezwoK · 06-02-2018 10:18am

Avni Yildirim

If Gassiev lands as much as Beidis did I think Usyk might be in trouble. It's a question of what will have more say; Usyks' seriously high paced work rate and engine or Gassievs' power and shot accuracy. I'd like to see Gassiev work on his timing and increase the workrate (which he'll need to do to beat Usyk). Right now, I can't pick a winner - I'm just delighted it's happening!

Morrison J · 07-02-2018 8:55pm

Avni Yildirim

The fight showed that bodywork pays off. Gassiev is elite in that category. Be vey interesting if he can sink big shots to Usyk's body early like he did Dorticos. If he can take Usyk's legs away from him in the latter rounds it's going to get very interesting!

walshb · 13-02-2018 12:25pm

Rob Brant

Completely torn on this......

No idea.....

I am currently very slightly leaning with Groves via decision. Based off range and keeping Eubank at bay and honest. Using his jab and reach and decent power to limit Eubank's in close action.

Really rooting for Eubank. Groves for me is good but never an elite. Something vulnerable with him, and is a WC based off a soft title win.

Eubank has not fought an elite yet. Here he is not fighting an elite. Eubank can step up another notch with a win. Groves will be his best opponent to date.

Hugely looking forward to it. It could be a great fight.

Brock Turnpike · 13-02-2018 8:06pm

Avni Yildirim

Is Eubank Jr vs Groves being broadcast in Ireland? Even on PPV?

walshb · 13-02-2018 10:52pm

Rob Brant

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Is Eubank Jr vs Groves being broadcast in Ireland? Even on PPV?

ITV PPV box office. Channel 493 Sky.

Visit ITV box office first..

Mantis Toboggan · 14-02-2018 11:14am

Avni Yildirim

ITV Box office isn't available on virgin media, some joke.

RezwoK · 14-02-2018 11:21am

Avni Yildirim

I'm predicting 12 round fight with a Groves win.

His reach, range and height will likely present Eubank with issues he's never faced before. Also, I think George will need to focus on movement, angles and counters for every second of the fight. Eubank has not beat anybody above European level and when he faced Saunders he got picked apart.

I've no horse in this race, I just want to see a good fight and I do believe at times Eubank will land some combinations on Groves which may require him to grab and hold especially if George stays on the ropes or burns out which he's suspect to do at times.

I actually believe that Eubank will be made look silly at times and miss a lot too - he's a great fighter brawler but it's boxing not fighting.

Groves on points @ 5/1 is great odds!

walshb · 14-02-2018 11:44am

Rob Brant

RezwoK wrote: »

I'm predicting 12 round fight with a Groves win.

His reach, range and height will likely present Eubank with issues he's never faced before. Also, I think George will need to focus on movement, angles and counters for every second of the fight. Eubank has not beat anybody above European level and when he faced Saunders he got picked apart.

I've no horse in this race, I just want to see a good fight and I do believe at times Eubank will land some combinations on Groves which may require him to grab and hold especially if George stays on the ropes or burns out which he's suspect to do at times.

I actually believe that Eubank will be made look silly at times and miss a lot too - he's a great fighter brawler but it's boxing not fighting.

Groves on points @ 5/1 is great odds!

You could well be on the money with that analysis...

The height reach and range are GGs keys...his power is enough to get respect as well.

normanoffside · 14-02-2018 12:09pm

Avni Yildirim

I was just watching some of videos from the open workouts.
It's hard to believe that Groves is taller than Eubank as he looks so much bigger and bulkier than his opponent.
Eubank while lean, looks extremely skinny compared to Groves.

The added size and strength of a big Super Middle in Groves will surely be a big advantage to him. I'm starting to lean towards a Groves win on points or late stoppage.

Morrison J · 14-02-2018 12:13pm

Avni Yildirim

A fight of two halves I think. Advantage Groves in the first half, advantage Eubank in the second. Groves needs to dig to the body early so Eubank isn't coming on too strong late when Groves gas tank is emptying.

If Groves can keep the fight at distance behind his jab he can make the fight much easier for himself. Just not sure if his feet are as good as they once were. Eubank is reckless as **** coming in though and Groves needs to hit him hard every time he tries to come inside. Eubank will have to take serious punishment to win this fight I think. He has to get inside and he'll have to take Groves best shots. We've no idea if his chin will hold up do we? He was definitely a bit buzzed by Spike. Adam Booth has said Groves buzzed him with bigger gloves when they sparred back 3/4 years ago. Interesting to see how he'll hold up.

I think Groves wins a close decision. Maybe getting an early knockdown to make the difference on the cards. Be one of those fights where it's whether you like quality or quantity of shots I think. I expect Groves to land the bigger punches but Eubank to be more active especially in the second half when Groves feet get heavy. Such a great fight.

RezwoK · 14-02-2018 12:42pm

Avni Yildirim

Does anybody know how to order this fight? I'm a sky customer but can't order with remote - usually call box office but as it's ITV I'm not sure what number to call?

Morrison J · 14-02-2018 12:45pm

Avni Yildirim

RezwoK wrote: »

Does anybody know how to order this fight? I'm a sky customer but can't order with remote - usually call box office but as it's ITV I'm not sure what number to call?

Through the website https://www.itvboxoffice.com/

walshb · 14-02-2018 1:00pm

Rob Brant

Tyson Fury wrote: »

ITV Box office isn't available on virgin media, some joke.

It is, no?

https://www.itvboxoffice.com/registration/paid-registration

RezwoK · 14-02-2018 1:53pm

Avni Yildirim

Seems like both links take you to the same page after a bit of navigation and clicks.

Cheers lads

walshb · 14-02-2018 2:03pm

Rob Brant

RezwoK wrote: »

Seems like both links take you to the same page after a bit of navigation and clicks.

Cheers lads

First time you need to set up account and then buy...

walshb · 14-02-2018 2:29pm

Rob Brant

If Groves' offence and output is stinging and hurtful then he may not need as much of it as we think. If it's not hurting Eubank then Groves will need to be fit and busier.

Eubank is a man, and if he is getting hurt and stung, then he will not be stupid enough to keep taking it by pressing in and forcing Groves to work. It will likely mean that Eubank has to adjust his offence and pace.

Conversely, if he is getting hurt he may decide to press harder and more frenetically, in the thinking that making Groves work harder will deteriorate Groves' offence and power. But he should be pressing harder in a more cautious and clever and defensive manner.

Morrison J · 14-02-2018 8:27pm

Avni Yildirim

When Groves lands these shots...

https://twitter.com/kmbbox/status/961637154123370496

RezwoK · 14-02-2018 9:51pm

Avni Yildirim

Good post Morrison!

megadodge · 14-02-2018 10:15pm

pac_man wrote: »

Eubank is all about heart and fitness but his choice of opponents since the Saunders fight is indicative of someone that isn't keen on fighting boxers. If Groves had a decent engine, then I fancy him to win this quite comfortably, I just don't trust his engine.

I agree with you on Eubank not wanting to meet boxers and Groves has very good 'pure' boxing skills. His jab is excellent and his all-round skills are of a high level, including his excellent feinting, which is a much neglected tactic and which Tyson Fury showed can really upset even the best of boxing brains. This spells bad news for Eubank - at least early on - and we could see a repeat of the Saunders fight in the sense that Groves will definitely outbox him, if he stays disciplined.

However, Groves also has the power to prevent Eubank getting back into it. If Junior gets reckless he's going to get hurt! Make no mistake about it, Groves is a very hard puncher and Junior won't be able to just simply walk through his shots - look what happened Froch when he tried and we all know how good Froch's chin was!

Then there's the question mark over Groves' stamina, which I often wondered about myself. Well, I'm beginning to think his issues were overstated. He has completed the 12 rounds a number of times against high quality opposition and in recent times hasn't seemed to be any more tired than the opposition.

People can correctly state that Eubank brings lots of pressure and a high workrate, but that's when he's facing boxers who won't be hitting him as cleanly and as hard as Groves will be. I think this fight will be the litmus test for Eubank's chin. If he can walk through Groves' shots then he is indeed 'his father's son'. I'm not convinced he can, but with his genetics I won't be overly surprised if he does and then the second half of the fight will be really interesting.

I'm still going with Groves on points. I think he's now mature enough to not get drawn into a brawl which would suit Eubank and his skills and the respect his power generates will see him home.

megadodge · 15-02-2018 11:35pm

Morrison J wrote: »

Through the website https://www.itvboxoffice.com/

Sorry about this lads, but while trying to reg online it won't let me continue to the next stage unless I tick the toggle 'Tick here to confirm you have either a Sky Q or Sky HD Set Top Box'. I have neither!

Does that mean I can't order it as it's only for HD setups?

walshb · 16-02-2018 10:05am

Rob Brant

I assume you have a standard Sky set top box? If so I would fire them an email to check that this is valid for registration/purchasing. Then just tick and move to the next step if the standard set top box is valid. Maybe they have not included in the set up the reference to a standard Sky set top box....

By HD set top box I believe they are referring to the ones that can record and pause and forward and rewind...

Hmmm: Not looking good

"Is ITV Box Office available in SD?No. ITV Box Office is a HD channel and can only be viewed on Sky HD and Sky Q set top boxes."

walshb · 16-02-2018 5:16pm

Rob Brant

Looks to be nothing in it physically on the scales and head to head.

Urindanger · 16-02-2018 5:38pm

Groves looking drained as he has been of late, and looking angry. Eubank looking great and very calm. Groves should be 15lbs heavier than Eubank come tomorrow night. Fascinating match up.

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