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All Blacks v Irish property developers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    It's been a great decade for Irish rugby with the Six Nations triumphs and European Cup wins by the provinces. We were spoilt with the success.

    A lot of stock was put into the 'autumn international' wins against New Zealand in Chicago and Dublin.

    Ultimately, they were friendlies. I doubt the All Blacks went home in total despair. When it came to the crunch of knockout rugby, New Zealand brought their usual "A" game.

    No reason why Ireland can't rise again. There's a lot of talent in the squad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    P_1 wrote: »
    People who give out about the Haka without realising that all Pacific nations perform a tribal ritual before each match will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes
    They can get in the queue, Turbridy Varadkar Harris etc will be dealt with first. Wallace Murphy will have to do their time breaking rocks before they are put up against the wall


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    We're all out!

    Could have done with the Emernator yesterday.
    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    I have no interest in rugby but the fans of the Irish team are nauseating. Nary a hint of graciousness in victory and the ultimate sore losers in defeat.

    Had to chuckle at point suggesting that other nations are arrogant when it comes to rugby. The Irish fans are up there with the worst on that front. I'm hoping for a Wales v England final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    chite wrote: »
    Somebody had to lose, why not Ireland. Well done New Zealand.
    What is a joke is having to fly in a lawyer for Aki's hearing, only for him to get suspended anyway. And fly in another rugby player when one of the other players hurt their neck, I thought they would've brought some subs with them to Japan? A pure waste of money spent by IRFU
    you cant have players already out there as why when they cant have any involvement with the squad once the tournament starts so who do they train with etc
    It also stops the wealthier countries having all potential subs out there while others wouldnt be able to do it anywhere near as much.
    boombang wrote: »
    I dislike a lot of the fair weather fandom, south Dublin exclusivity, Guinness BS etc. Despite that, anybody playing at the world cup is a hard working, professional athlete. I admire that effort.
    Sport isnt exclusive to anywhere especially south Dublin and all sports have fair weather fans. Rugby cant be criticised for that
    Motivator wrote: »
    They don’t stand for the Irish national anthem, they mean sweet F A to me. They got their arses handed to them today by a proper team. The writing was on the wall for a long time with this crowd and they got humiliated from start to finish. Joe Schmuck out the door with his reputation in tatters in this country. There were grown men crying into their moustaches in gastro pubs and wine bars across Ireland today. EMBARRESSING
    who really gives a ****e about the songs played before a game. How long is a long time as writing hasn't at all been on wall for long at all
    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    It's been a great decade for Irish rugby with the Six Nations triumphs and European Cup wins by the provinces. We were spoilt with the success.

    A lot of stock was put into the 'autumn international' wins against New Zealand in Chicago and Dublin.

    Ultimately, they were friendlies. I doubt the All Blacks went home in total despair. When it came to the crunch of knockout rugby, New Zealand brought their usual "A" game.

    No reason why Ireland can't rise again. There's a lot of talent in the squad.
    just dismissing them as friendlies is nonsense when they're every year and only chance to play likes of New Zealand outside a world cup. Ot is a great pity we've messed up at another world cup and not made a semi but there must be something up as we've never been able to show at a world cup knock out game what we are truly capable of based on 6 nations and other international success as well as based on what provinces do so well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,963 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Speaking of 'arrogance', anyone remember this? :D:D:D Still funny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Motivator wrote: »
    EMBARRESSING


    It certainly is!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Beating them in the test matches showed how we could beat them, with plenty of time for them to address it. It made sure there was no complacency in their approach to this match.

    Losing to Japan showed we struggled with that sort of tempo and intensity, and knocked our confidence.

    So they fielded a young team bursting with energy and aggression. The skipped Italy game helped that too.

    Beating them twice was an accomplishment in itself, but it would have been nice to have done it at the world cup instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭OldRio


    TCM wrote: »
    Wonderful to see NZ giving the "team of us " from "rugby country" a lesson in a real game. The practice game wins that oirland were bragging about don't count. This oirish team has never gotten past the the last 8 in a 9 team comical " World Cup competition. Glorious stuff.

    How sad you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    The fans let themselves down by booing during the Haka, you would have thought they would have been told when they were going to their private school that it's bad manners to do someting like that.

    Thought that was a bit off myself booing the haka. But when the crowd have muppets like this in it it doesnt surprise me. They're just event junkies who are there for the piss up

    [IMG][/img]schmidt.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    The Haka is important to Maori culture, it wouldn't have killed them to keep their mouths shut for a few minutes while it was going on.

    Haka has no place in a competition like a world cup.

    If the AB want to do it they can come out and do it before the anthems.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,515 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Sorry now, but you're talking out your hoop.

    If you're visiting a Maori tribal meeting place in New Zealand, you'd solemnly respect the Haka.

    But on the Rugby field immediately prior to kick-off, it's used as a motivational and intimidatory tactic by New Zealand. It is not a national anthem. There's absolutely no reason opposing fans of any nation shouldn't show support for their team and attempt to drown out the Haka in the process.

    Are big rugger lads intimidated by that?
    If they are... lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Are big rugger lads intimidated by that?
    If they are... lol.
    They knocked out an Irish player the last time they beat us. Made so many dangerous tackles the rules were subsequently changed. This was off the back of our beating them in Chicago.

    In 2005 two of them picked up Brian O'Driscoll by the legs and planted him head first into the ground. They dislocated his shoulder and could have broken his neck. That was a reaction to him trying to show respect for their tradition by throwing a blade of grass in the air after the haka.

    The idea of being intimidated isn't laughable. They are temperamental types who have a history of reacting violently when their pride is wounded in some way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    They knocked out an Irish player the last time they beat us. Made so many dangerous tackles the rules were subsequently changed. This was off the back of our beating them in Chicago.

    In 2005 two of them picked up Brian O'Driscoll by the legs and planted him head first into the ground. They dislocated his shoulder and could have broken his neck. That was a reaction to him trying to show respect for their tradition by throwing a blade of grass in the air after the haka.

    The idea of being intimidated isn't laughable. They are temperamental types who have a history of reacting violently when their pride is wounded in some way.

    That smarmy clown “Drico” got his reward for trying to be the big fella that time. His display of arrogance landed him literally neck deep in it. New Zealanders are proud people and what he did that night was, to Irish people, like someone taking a shït on the Irish flag. Although that wouldn’t mean anything to the rugby lads seeing as they don’t even stand for our national anthem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I thought I was a bit of a rugby hater. I don't care really care about the sport and think it gets way over-hyped here far too easily, but then I come on here and read some of the mental levels of bitterness on display, I just think, fcking hell, some people have baaad chips on their shoulders.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Arghus wrote: »
    I thought I was a bit of a rugby hater. I don't care really care about the sport and think it gets way over-hyped here far too easily, but then I come on here and read some of the mental levels of bitterness on display, I just think, fcking hell, some people have baaad chips on their shoulders.

    Visited this thread, got what it was about, and saw the usual heads posting. The one thing that makes miserable men like them even more miserable is that they really hate that others aren’t as depressingly miserable as they are. Drives them nuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭doughef


    Visited this thread, got what it was about, and saw the usual heads posting. The one thing that makes miserable men like them even more miserable is that they really hate that others aren’t as depressingly miserable as they are. Drives them nuts.

    Lol ... what about the miserable women ?
    I’m sure some women are as thrilled to see the bunch of west Brit / south siders sent home ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Sport isnt exclusive to anywhere especially south Dublin and all sports have fair weather fans. Rugby cant be criticised for that

    Rugby has its fair share but the Irish football fan base is worse. Tickets for the Euros next year were snapped up in no time, i.e. the big event but there will be thousands of free tickets for the upcoming crunch qualifier against Denmark and the game won't even be a sell out.
    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Thought that was a bit off myself booing the haka. But when the crowd have muppets like this in it it doesnt surprise me. They're just event junkies who are there for the piss up.

    It was crass and disrespectful. Far too many morons like that following Irish sport. Need to take away their passports and keep them at home.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Hope the South Africans win the cup.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Hope the South Africans win the cup.
    Always love the Bokke!
    Time to get 'em into the 6 nations?
    Ditch Scotland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Always love the Bokke!
    Time to get 'em into the 6 nations?
    Ditch Scotland?

    Remember Eddie Jones talking about relegating the Italians.
    Seemed a bit harsh from him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    And there was me thinking BOD was checking the direction of the wind when dropping the blade of grass.
    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Thought that was a bit off myself booing the haka. But when the crowd have muppets like this in it it doesnt surprise me. They're just event junkies who are there for the piss up

    [IMG][/img]schmidt.jpg

    In fairness, at 22 nil down against NZL (and after lossing to Japan) it probably was more about the piss up for most at that stage.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Remember Eddie Jones talking about relegating the Italians.
    Seemed a bit harsh from him.
    Maybe they should have a European team without the French . Obviously keep the French as the French team to avoid confusion .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Hope the South Africans win the cup.

    In order of preference

    South Africa
    Wales
    England
    New Zealand


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Motivator wrote: »
    That smarmy clown “Drico” got his reward for trying to be the big fella that time. His display of arrogance landed him literally neck deep in it. New Zealanders are proud people and what he did that night was, to Irish people, like someone taking a shït on the Irish flag. Although that wouldn’t mean anything to the rugby lads seeing as they don’t even stand for our national anthem.

    Are you fcuking serious?

    "o, drischoll deserved to spend the rest of his days in a wheelchair "


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Are you fcuking serious?

    "o, drischoll deserved to spend the rest of his days in a wheelchair "

    Truly pathetic the fawning all over New Zealand. Deserved to have his back broken for disrespecting a dance. And that is being justified.
    Pathetic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Don’t really get the whole thing about the Haka. What is the unanimous view amongst rugby fans of it’s purpose? Are we meant to buy into it as them putting the fear of god into the opponents and keep up the pretense that the opposition are actually trembling in their boots or what? Or is it just a spectacle to pay homage to the Māori roots and a visual unique in all of sport?

    If it’s the first, booing and general disrespect should be encouraged, if it’s the second, then give it the credence it deserves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Truly pathetic the fawning all over New Zealand. Deserved to have his back broken for disrespecting a dance. And that is being justified.
    Pathetic.

    Umaga and the other orc should have been arrested and charged with attempted murder

    That other orc Michael Campbell ( kiwi golfer) attacked BOD a few days after the assault, during interview at a golf tournament, the assh0le brought it up

    Kiwis are assh0les


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Don’t really get the whole thing about the Haka. What is the unanimous view amongst rugby fans of it’s purpose? Are we meant to buy into it as them putting the fear of god into the opponents and keep up the pretense that there is fear in the opposition 15 players or what? Or is it just a spectacle to pay homage to the Māori roots and a visual unique in all of sport?

    If it’s the first, booing and general disrespect should be encouraged, if it’s the second, then give it the credence it deserves.

    It is part of their culture. The Haka is not just a rugby thing, they do it at school, weddings, funerals etc.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Don’t really get the whole thing about the Haka. What is the unanimous view amongst rugby fans of it’s purpose? Are we meant to buy into it as them putting the fear of god into the opponents and keep up the pretense that there is fear in the opposition 15 players or what? Or is it just a spectacle to pay homage to the Māori roots and a visual unique in all of sport?
    It's tradition and was for a long time a strong anti racist statement.
    But as I say in competitive matches it should be done before the anthems.



    I'd like to see the Saffas come up with something; a version of the Toyi Toyi maybe. Be cool to see the likes of Shalk Brits or Etzenbeth doing it.


    And of course it would be after the Haka because so much more important.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Umaga and the other orc should have been arrested and charged with attempted murder

    That other orc Michael Campbell ( kiwi golfer) attacked BOD a few days after the assault, during interview at a golf tournament, the assh0le brought it up

    Kiwis are assh0les

    I don't have much time for them but arresting and charging them for attempted murder is OTT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Berserker wrote: »
    It is part of their culture. The Haka is not just a rugby thing, they do it at school, weddings, funerals etc.

    Big fcuking deal, get over yourselves


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    I know they do, it’s quality actually, love the haka and think it should be respected but rugby fans act as if it actually gives the all blacks an advantage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Umaga and the other orc should have been arrested and charged with attempted murder

    That other orc Michael Campbell ( kiwi golfer) attacked BOD a few days after the assault, during interview at a golf tournament, the assh0le brought it up

    Kiwis are assh0les
    Only about Rugby. Other than that they are a bit dull but good humoured, hard working, trustworthy and decent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Umaga and the other orc should have been arrested and charged with attempted murder

    That other orc Michael Campbell ( kiwi golfer) attacked BOD a few days after the assault, during interview at a golf tournament, the assh0le brought it up

    Kiwis are assh0les

    Yes I agree, cheating psychopaths who don't even need to cheat. I would like any team to win over those scumbags.


    I really cant understand the fawning on here towards them because some people in Ireland went to private school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,963 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Berserker wrote: »
    It is part of their culture. The Haka is not just a rugby thing, they do it at school, weddings, funerals etc.

    Irish dancing and Morris dancing are parts of others cultures, but we don't insist on doing it before games.

    It's a marketing thing again for WR and that is why it is allowed and it does not have any rights to be 'respected'. If somebody wants to turn away from it or sing over it, so be it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Irish dancing and Morris dancing are parts of others cultures, but we don't insist on doing it before games.

    It's a marketing thing again for WR and that is why it is allowed and it does not have any rights to be 'respected'. If somebody wants to turn away from it or sing over it, so be it.



    Exactly, the amount of reverence and bull**** that goes along with it would give you a pain in your hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    Hopefully will put an end to all the execrable bandwagon hopping rugby theme ads.
    Ha ha, if only - they seem to brainlessly keep broadcasting the ads after the worst defeats! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    8th... again... out of 10... Morto for all the guys!

    What was actually funny was everyone who thought Ireland would "bring one big performance" when they have sh1t the bed all year.

    There goes Rory Best's knighthood.

    #teamofthem


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,388 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    8th... again... out of 10... Morto for all the guys!

    What was actually funny was everyone who thought Ireland would "bring one big performance" when they have sh1t the bed all year.

    There goes Rory Best's knighthood.

    #teamofthem

    The Queen is fair minded. She won't take away Rory's gong just because Ireland lost.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    The Queen is fair minded. She won't take away Rory's gong just because Ireland lost.
    Do you mean the Queen of England or the Queen of Narnia?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Exactly, the amount of reverence and bull**** that goes along with it would give you a pain in your hole.

    In a way by demanding it be respected, it just ruins the facade. By fans booing it, by opposition disrespecting it, gives it more of an edge. Yeah I know what happened to BOD, but these guys are professional athletes, at end of the day, what the **** are NZ really gonna do if someone doesn’t take it ‘respectfully’ Destroy the opposition even more?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Do you mean the Queen of England or the Queen of Narnia?

    Rory Best has only one Queen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Hope the South Africans win the cup.


    Nah, they are almost as arrogant as our bunch...;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,388 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Do you mean the Queen of England or the Queen of Narnia?

    Narnia your business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Irish dancing and Morris dancing are parts of others cultures, but we don't insist on doing it before games.

    Wouldn't mind seeing the Irish lads doing a bit of an Irish dance before the game starts. The Ulster lads could march up and down the pitch a few times.
    It's a marketing thing again for WR and that is why it is allowed and it does not have any rights to be 'respected'. If somebody wants to turn away from it or sing over it, so be it.

    They have been performing the Haka before games since their first international, long before anthems were sung at games. The Welsh introduced the singing of anthems at games to counter the Haka. It is not some marketing fad, to be fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Only about Rugby. Other than that they are a bit dull but good humoured, hard working, trustworthy and decent.

    I had a different experience


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    I had a different experience
    Gang bang !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,963 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Berserker wrote: »
    Wouldn't mind seeing the Irish lads doing a bit of an Irish dance before the game starts. The Ulster lads could march up and down the pitch a few times.



    They have been performing the Haka before games since their first international, long before anthems were sung at games. The Welsh introduced the singing of anthems at games to counter the Haka. It is not some marketing fad, to be fair.

    It is a marketing thing now. WR try to protect it and I think have issued directives about how it should be faced.

    The 'haka' is a challenge and you should be allowed to counter that challenge as you wish as a 'competing side' and as a spectator.

    And some Maori people believe that rugby has bastardised the Haka and that it is inappropriate to do it.


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