What does true equality of opportunity look like?

engiweirdo wrote: »

It is certainly not inarguable and is in many situations an absolutely laughable conclusion. What exactly is stopping women from any social class from pursuing STEM subjecting they so wished?

The lack of female role models in STEM already is one reason why young girls never consider a career in STEM for starters. For example, without using Google, if I asked you who Valentina Tereshkova was, would you even be able to tell me? I learned about her decades ago, and not in school either. I learned all about men’s achievements though.

Especially now with employment procedures so mutilated that a female will absolutely be selected in most instances over a similar/ better qualified male counterpart for a good even role to promote "equality".

This is more of the same old “Wah wah, whitey plundered resources from indigenous peoples across the globe, but now we’re the real victims of mass immigration”. You reap what you sow, and changes in employment procedures now are an outcome of historical inequality when there wasn’t a peep out of whitey about the inequality and injustice of it all when everything was going his own way and he had all the opportunities other people didn’t.

engiweirdo wrote: »

Pmsl so @ "Whitey". You absolute self loathing freak in fairness.

That makes two of us pissing ourselves laughing so, for different reasons of course.

I’m far from self-loathing. In order for that to happen I’d have to agree with and associate myself with people who constantly whinge nowadays about how unfair the world is becoming towards them. The easiest identifying characteristic about them is that they generally tend to be white. A good number of them were once self-congratulatory about their own perceived superior intelligence (until that myth too was debunked by their very own science), and now they’re complaining out of one side of their mouths about the fordiners dat tuk deir jobs and deir wimmins, whilst proudly proclaiming out the other side that the fordin wimmins does be more up for de sex dan de stuck up fugly bitches in their own countries.

Those types of goons deserve to be laughed at and their opinions dismissed for the bullshìt that it is.

steddyeddy wrote: »

So you should only compare genders across class? A rich girl compared to a rich boy and a poor girl comprared to a poor girl? The only logic in that is to support your weak arguement that class doesn't matter. Compare a poorer girl with a richer one and see how class affects oppertunity.

Should we also compare genders in the same race? No other variable should come into it.

I’m not and have never said that class doesn’t matter. If you’re talking about equality of opportunities, then you’re going to have to give some people opportunities that you don’t give to other people, and vice versa. The State is never going to be able to give a person from Finglas the same opportunities as someone from... I don’t know, a wealthy part of Dublin. Not being from Dublin myself, I don’t know any particularly wealthy areas, so when Franz was talking earlier about D6 and D14 or wherever, either of those postcodes on a CV would be meaningless to me.

I’ve always maintained anyway I don’t believe in equality, and certainly I don’t believe anything even close to true equality would ever be economically or socially sustainable, those kinds of ideas sound to me awfully like communism and socialism, and as a capitalist libertarian conservative, I just wouldn’t support them. I’m far more interested in private enterprise and the free market economy rather than State interventions and social policies designed to keep oxygen thieves in employment.