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Twitter permanently suspends Milo Yiannopoulos over row with 'Ghostbusters' actress

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  • #652
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Samaris wrote: »
    Ah okay, I got the impression from the conversation that it didn't tend to ban accounts. Although I suppose banning a famous account is always going to get more publicity than some random bloke.
    Oh they ban like crazy Sam. The vast majority don't kick up a fuss or have the fame profile and media avenues to complain about it. Add in the lines drawn US BS and in an election year where the choice is a warmonger or an orange haired muppet and all bets are off. Never mind the push to open the female market for an old and dead franchise and the almost inevitable pushback and it's easy to reach full retard all over the place.

    The other problem can be actors and other "celebs" when set against media whores like Milo Snuffleupagus. They don't stand a chance. Few enough of them have the chops for debate. They get used to yes men, even if they start out bright enough, so tend to live in an ego bubble of crazy proportions. Agent provocateurs like Milo can have them for lunch.

    IMH the studio really dropped the ball on that one. They could see the massive online backlash against the flic. Hell they even did reshoots to remark on it(just as thick as it sounds). Yet they pretty much left the actresses to their own devices in the online world.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • #653
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Milo reminds me of a modern-day Ian Paisley. Gather a band of followers often motivated by hate and stupidity, wind them up, and walk away when the trouble kicks off denying responsibility for any wrongdoing.


  • #654
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    He started out OK, quite reserved and balanced, but when he got popular in the US he realised like others before him that you can't throw in enough obvious or go enough slapstick for the cross eyed and the hard of thinking in that culture. What we see now is that media invention, the act that gets the bums on paying seats. The reserved and balanced doesn't earn nearly so well.

    We see that increasingly at play in media in general throughout the world. Tabloid sells and crazy gets clicks. The British Daily Mail is the most visited news website on the planet last time I looked. Yep. Think on that and shudder. And start building shelters and hoarding food. :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • #655
    mzungu
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    My main issue is not what he said but how he had the ability to direct his followers simply by re tweeting them. That provokes harassment.
    I am not sure if he did orchestrate a campaign (and it may very well have been his intention) but it seems it was just taken for granted that he did.

    Although, taking the tweet OP posted here, it does seem like there was a pair of them in it.
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Lesdoggg/status/755218642674020352

    Samaris wrote: »
    I don't know all of it, but as I've gathered, Milo made some snarky comment at the woman who played the lead in the new Ghostbuster's movie. She responded, and he directed, whether blatently or just irresponsibly, his army of minions to attack her, which they gleefully did. All got a bit out of hand and Twitter decided he was more trouble than he was worth and banned him.

    I guess this is what it comes down to. Given the blokes reputation and prior actions it would not be beyond the realms of possibility, but in the absence of any proof, then I guess the decision was made at Twitter HQ that it was more trouble than it was worth. It could also have been the race element to it too. Although, if that were the case, then Leslie's tweet above ticks both boxes. If Twitter was consistent, they would have banned/suspended them both.


  • #656
    Venom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Oh they ban like crazy Sam. The vast majority don't kick up a fuss or have the fame profile and media avenues to complain about it. Add in the lines drawn US BS and in an election year where the choice is a warmonger or an orange haired muppet and all bets are off. Never mind the push to open the female market for an old and dead franchise and the almost inevitable pushback and it's easy to reach full retard all over the place.

    The other problem can be actors and other "celebs" when set against media whores like Milo Snuffleupagus. They don't stand a chance. Few enough of them have the chops for debate. They get used to yes men, even if they start out bright enough, so tend to live in an ego bubble of crazy proportions. Agent provocateurs like Milo can have them for lunch.

    IMH the studio really dropped the ball on that one. They could see the massive online backlash against the flic. Hell they even did reshoots to remark on it(just as thick as it sounds). Yet they pretty much left the actresses to their own devices in the online world.

    Twitter has had it in for Milo for a while tho Wibbs and removed his verified status a few months ago which is pretty dickish move on their part. The whole Leslie Jones issue was just an excuse to ban him and its the lack of any proof of his wrong doing on the companys part that made this an issue.

    As for celebs deserving bans, Kanye West, Azealia Banks and Leslie Jones have posted way worse stuff than Milo ever did and Twitter has done smeg all until Banks went full retard one time to many and got her account suspended.


  • #657
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The oft randomness of the service is one reason I'd not be arsed using it TBH. That and it's ready made for trolling/general nonsense/ego wankery. IE this nonsense involving a low end "comedienne" and a flouncy right wing troll.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • #658
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    mzungu wrote: »
    I am not sure if he did orchestrate a campaign (and it may very well have been his intention) but it seems it was just taken for granted that he did.

    Although, taking the tweet OP posted here, it does seem like there was a pair of them in it.

    It can be done very passively. And many people do this on Twitter all the time but usually to point out positive opinions rather than negative ones. If you or I have a million Twitter followers and then re-tweet an opinion we don't agree with then that gets sent to our million followers. They then can see it and act accordingly. Of course you or I did nothing but retweet however that simple act mobilised a mob and pointed them at a target. So on the one hand the guy just had an opinion. Big deal. On the other hand, he painted a target on the back of a person and plenty took aim. And as a vocal and popular political outlier there was a spotlight on him. In fact he'd already been warned and had his Twitter account suspended for bad behaviour in the past.

    Of course the point was forced home because of the public outcry against the poor treatment of ghostbusters lady by a large number of Hollywood elites. Twitter was compelled to act by the negative publicity. And Milo knew too, that when taking a potshot in the manner he did, he mobilised his fans in that direction. His behaviour wasn't too bright, Bart.


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