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New RTE Player

  • 01-12-2018 10:36am
    #1
    JMcGee
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭


    I saw on Twitter that there's a new player in the works. Just a coming soon. Anyone out there have an idea on a date? I think I'm getting my hopes up too high expecting some cross platform rollout.


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  • #2
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,463 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    JMcGee wrote: »
    I saw on Twitter that there's a new player in the works. Just a coming soon. Anyone out there have an idea on a date? I think I'm getting my hopes up too high expecting some cross platform rollout.

    If it has the current setup of ads it will be still be pure rubbish no matter what improvements it has.


  • #3
    JMcGee
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭JMcGee


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    If it has the current setup of ads it will be still be pure rubbish no matter what improvements it has.

    If they just copied the BBC iPlayer in terms of app layout and content delivery, they'd have a lot of happy users.


  • #4
    meep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭meep


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    If it has the current setup of ads it will be still be pure rubbish no matter what improvements it has.

    So we want RTE to invest in a significant technology refresh, want it to be free and don’t want it to have any advertising?


  • #5
    Darkglasses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    meep wrote: »
    So we want a technology refresh, want it to be free and don’t want it to have any advertising?

    No, not necessarily no ads - just this thing of watching 2 minutes of ads as soon as you start - potentially getting an error where you can't start your programme, then having to start all over with your minutes of ads. There are better ways.

    I'm hoping to see better Chromecast abilities more than anything.


  • #6
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    JMcGee wrote: »
    I saw on Twitter that there's a new player in the works. Just a coming soon. Anyone out there have an idea on a date? I think I'm getting my hopes up too high expecting some cross platform rollout.

    I'm sure they said it was coming at the start of 2018 and that was delayed from some time in 2017.


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  • #7
    JMcGee
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭JMcGee


    meep wrote: »
    So we want RTE to invest in a significant technology refresh, want it to be free and don’t want it to have any advertising?

    TV license fees won't cover it? To be honest, I'd be fine with ads the same way they are shown on the regular broadcast. Just once they are not the same ones over and over.


  • #8
    JMcGee
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭JMcGee


    lertsnim wrote: »
    I'm sure they said it was coming at the start of 2018 and that was delayed from some time in 2017.

    Their Twitter page is all decked out with a new logo and "something's coming" banner. Apparently there was some launch party recently also. But not putting it live the next day is unusual. That would be major egg on the face if it turns out to be another 6 months though.


  • #9
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Hopefully it happens soon as it is long overdue. It is baffling to me how chromecast works with iOS devices while android doesn't have it at all.


  • #10
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    The adverts at the start are a massive bug bearer for me. I’m not force to watch two minutes of ads when I switch on my TV, I’m not sure why I should be forced to do it when I stream RTE One or Two live, particularly during live “event” programming. It has meant missing goals/tries. And if you’re travelling, every time the stream drops you have to watch the two minutes again.

    It’s not a problem when you watch on Sky Go incidentally, but some live sports events are blocked on Sky Go but not on RTE Player.


  • #11
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,463 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    meep wrote: »
    So we want RTE to invest in a significant technology refresh, want it to be free and don’t want it to have any advertising?

    They take in plenty of money to pay for it with minimal or no advertising yet choose to spend almost 3 times the licence fee money for the entire annual online budget per year on the rich mans Orchestras (yes 2 there's 2 RTE Orchestras), joke of an organisation.


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    https://www.thejournal.ie/rte-losses-2016-2-3502547-Jul2017/


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  • #12
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    They take in plenty of money to pay for it with minimal or no advertising yet choose to spend almost 3 times the licence fee money for the entire annual online budget per year on the rich mans Orchestras (yes 2 there's 2 RTE Orchestras), joke of an organisation.


    ?width=630&version=3502480



    https://www.thejournal.ie/rte-losses-2016-2-3502547-Jul2017/

    RTÉ have to spend that on the NSO and NCO, the NSO is likely to exit RTÉ in 2021 and merge with the NCH, wonder who will foot the bill?

    Take a closer look at the last 15 years of RTÉ budget and see IMO the stand out figure and it’s not the Music Groups. I posted it here
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057497434&page=20


  • #13
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Also the new RTÉ player is due this month.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A brand new RTÉ Player is coming to you very soon ✨ new look, new shows, new everything! Watch this space �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rteplayer?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#rteplayer</a&gt; <a href="https://t.co/wTbEbEfdin">pic.twitter.com/wTbEbEfdin</a></p>&mdash; RTÉ Player (@RTEplayer) <a href=" 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js&quot; charset="utf-8"></script>

    https://twitter.com/RTEplayer/status/1065654210300182528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    https://twitter.com/RTEplayer/status/1065654210300182528


  • #14
    JMcGee
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭JMcGee


    Elmo, you didn't read the first post, did ya? :) The problem with this tweet is that it's just "Coming Soon". I just hope it's not Duke Nukem grade coming soon.


  • #15
    JMcGee
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭JMcGee


    Looks like it's being released tomorrow :)


  • #16
    holidaysong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭holidaysong


    It'll have chromecast for Android.


  • #17
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    A new logo and red and white colour scheme it seems. Interesting.


  • #18
    Darkglasses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    icdg wrote: »
    A new logo and red and white colour scheme it seems. Interesting.

    You'd think Virgin were far more recognisable as the red and white channel :o


  • #19
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Darkglasses wrote: »
    You'd think Virgin were far more recognisable as the red and white channel :o

    Funny I would have said it is more of a pinkish red.


  • #20
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Off topic but ever since TV3 rebranded I’ve been confused between the iOS icons for Virgin Media Player and YouTube - they are practically the inverse colours of each other. So I rather fear RTE have caused more confusion by choosing the same colours.


  • #21
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,936 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    I'll give them one more chance to get this right. If it's still buggy/rubbish, I'll never even try it again.


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  • #22
    trixiebust
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭trixiebust


    meep wrote: »
    So we want RTE to invest in a significant technology refresh, want it to be free and don’t want it to have any advertising?

    Yes. I'm sure cutting D'Arcy & Tubs wages in half would go a long way to paying for it alone.


  • #23
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    What time is it updating?


  • #24
    the whole year inn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,113 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    Be nice if it was supported by Xbox or PS4. It's only a pipe dream.


  • #25
    JMcGee
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭JMcGee


    the whole year inn wrote: »
    Be nice if it was supported by Xbox or PS4. It's only a pipe dream.

    I'm holding out for the Apple TV pipe dream :)
    Now that they are using HTML5 it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to port it to other platforms.


  • #26
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    I take it that it's not happening today?


  • #27
    portach king
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭portach king


    Not the best start if they miss their launch day, is it?


  • #28
    Pelvis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    Will it still tell me I have an ad blocker when I don't?


  • #29
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It seems to be delayed, though they are still going ahead with their first “RTE Player Original”, The Doireann (Garrighty) Project at 9pm tonight.


  • #30
    portach king
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭portach king


    icdg wrote: »
    It seems to be delayed, though they are still going ahead with their first “RTE Player Original”, The Doireann (Garrighty) Project at 9pm tonight.

    I watched the ad for that.... :eek:


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  • #31
    brick man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭brick man


    They have tweeted that they are putting the finishing touches to app it won't be ready for a number of days by the look of it


  • #32
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    A shambles.


  • #33
    stephend2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭stephend2000


    brick man wrote: »
    They have tweeted that they are putting the finishing touches to app it won't be ready for a number of days by the look of it
    For god sake!


  • #34
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    IMO RTÉ management set a dead line for this year and want that deadline met because they have missed that deadline for at least the last 2 years, every time they’ve gone to the oirechtas they mention it.

    Best launch would have been for the Late Late Toy Show.


  • #35
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,936 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    brick man wrote: »
    They have tweeted that they are putting the finishing touches to app it won't be ready for a number of days by the look of it

    When RTE say "soon" they could mean days, weeks, months... even years!


  • #36
    galtee boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    JDxtra wrote: »
    When RTE say "soon" they could mean days, weeks, months... even years!

    It only took 3 years to come with Saorview Connect and then we found out it couldn't record and had no internal HDD, so don't expect too much from this proposed new RTE Player.


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  • #37
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,668 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    They announced back in May 2017 this would launch before the end of 2017 - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=103424192. It then slipped to early 2018 - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=105281745, and we still wait.

    The tender was originally published way back in Mar 2015 - https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=86163&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=


  • #38
    JMcGee
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭JMcGee


    galtee boy wrote: »
    It only took 3 years to come with Saorview Connect and then we found out it couldn't record and had no internal HDD, so don't expect too much from this proposed new RTE Player.

    The thing is that there are many players already out there that do a great job. It's not like they need to reinvent the wheel here. What are the odds on it not playing at a proper frame rate either. I tried the current player via Airplay and it's only at 25fps which looks terrible. 720p/50 should be the absolute minimum level of acceptance today.


  • #39
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    JMcGee wrote: »
    The thing is that there are many players already out there that do a great job. It's not like they need to reinvent the wheel here. What are the odds on it not playing at a proper frame rate either. I tried the current player via Airplay and it's only at 25fps which looks terrible. 720p/50 should be the absolute minimum level of acceptance today.

    Have to agree and AFAIK netflix is an open source player.


  • #40
    Cockford Ollie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 217 ✭✭Cockford Ollie


    Are they making an Android TV app?

    How come WebOS on LG TVs have RTE player and not Android TV?

    They have an Android app, meaning they have 90% of the code already. Just need to make the UI work on TV.


  • #41
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Incompatible with all of my devices sadly.


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  • #42
    Cockford Ollie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 217 ✭✭Cockford Ollie


    lertsnim wrote: »
    Incompatible with all of my devices sadly.

    What exactly is it compatible with??


  • #43
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,936 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Cockford Ollie wrote: »
    What exactly is it compatible with??

    It's probably just a dummy application to test the Play store. Note it says 0 installs. It's also highly unlikely they'll make it a separate app download - the new version will be an upgrade of the old app (unless they want to ditch all the negative reviews of the old one of course!).


  • #44
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Cockford Ollie wrote: »
    What exactly is it compatible with??
    2010?


  • #45
    JMcGee
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭JMcGee


    Why do I get the impression there's a supergeek with a perverse sense of whatever, somewhere in the RTE Player team who is delberately holding things up for the sake of it? :D

    220px-The_Simpsons-Jeff_Albertson.png


  • #46
    Cockford Ollie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 217 ✭✭Cockford Ollie


    JMcGee wrote: »
    Why do I get the impression there's a supergeek with a perverse sense of whatever, somewhere in the RTE Player team who is delberately holding things up for the sake of it? :D

    If it's like any other software development company I've worked with, it's mostly like just general incompetence across the board.


  • #47
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    JMcGee wrote: »
    Their Twitter page is all decked out with a new logo and "something's coming" banner. Apparently there was some launch party recently also. But not putting it live the next day is unusual. That would be major egg on the face if it turns out to be another 6 months though.
    What I don't get is why have a launch party if the app isn't ready? What kind of muppet would think of having the party if the app wasn't actually live?


  • #48
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    What I don't get is why have a launch party if the app isn't ready? What kind of muppet would think of having the party if the app wasn't actually live?

    Launch party was organised, that launch was purely for Management. RTÉ have been talking up a new Player for the last 5 years and plans have always been pushed back. RTÉ can now go in and say on the 3/12/18 we launched the New RTÉ Player as outline in our strategic plan 2018 -2022, which has yet to be fully published!


  • #49
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Oh they are getting worried
    Boxset viewers and fans of Irish original content are set for a binge-watching boost as the revamped RTÉ Player is launched before the end of the week.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/rte-player-gets-major-overhaul-to-include-archived-show-and-original-content-890041.html

    Who the F launches something before the end of the week, will it be launched Friday or Saturday, or is that Sunday!


  • #50
    Pelvis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    They're just waiting on a few more licence fees to come in before they can pay the devs to finish up.


  • #51
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Pelvis wrote: »
    They're just waiting on a few more licence fees to come in before they can pay the devs to finish up.

    They seem to be having a second one in Cork today!


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