"Junkie City"

TrustedApple · 25-08-2015 11:31am

Here's something me and my old housemate used to always see when living in railway square.

There on millirs marsh you know the car park behind it some load of dodgy stuff used to happen in there at night we used to see cars pull in beside each other for 2 secs and then drive off again.

But one thing ever never got the amount of girls who used to walk home by them selfs trow the car park was nuts on a night out. As that's a huge open space where there is no passing traffic crazy.

I have also seen alasbury getting raided by the garda a few times as well and there student apartments :O.

fiachr_a · 25-08-2015 6:28pm

kaef wrote: »

One of my dreams is to get a good few healthy lads and patrol areas like this in the evenings and provide free "cleaning service" if you know what i mean.

Get the Freewheelers to clean up the town; then write a movie about it.

25-08-2015 7:42pm

fiachr_a wrote: »

Get the Freewheelers to clean up the town; then write a movie about it.

I don't know much about the freewheelers but are they much better than the scum who are dealing the drugs? I have heard stories about them before.

edit: I got that you were joking btw

JenniFurr · 26-08-2015 7:07pm

I've lived in Dublin and Dundalk so I hadn't really noticed much of a drug problem here since I returned but now that you mention it I have been asked for money on a few occasions in the past while. And the previous posts about railway square explain a lot. I've seen blood in the area a few times in the past year. I always thought it was probably the result of a drunken fight outside of Ruby's (or whatever it's called now) and the loser had wandered off in that direction to lick their wounds.

Also a girl tried to attack me near the Granary about a year ago. She asked for money and when I ignored her she called me something not very nice. I stupidly turned around out of shock at being called names and she tried to attack me. Thankfully she was only slight girl, so I pushed her away and walked on. I had seen her begging for a while before this around City Square but haven't seen her since. Felt bad for her since she didn't seem very old if discount the effects drug use.

26-08-2015 8:59pm

JenniFurr wrote: »

I've lived in Dublin and Dundalk so I hadn't really noticed much of a drug problem here since I returned but now that you mention it I have been asked for money on a few occasions in the past while. And the previous posts about railway square explain a lot. I've seen blood in the area a few times in the past year. I always thought it was probably the result of a drunken fight outside of Ruby's (or whatever it's called now) and the loser had wandered off in that direction to lick their wounds.

Also a girl tried to attack me near the Granary about a year ago. She asked for money and when I ignored her she called me something not very nice. I stupidly turned around out of shock at being called names and she tried to attack me. Thankfully she was only slight girl, so I pushed her away and walked on. I had seen her begging for a while before this around City Square but haven't seen her since. Felt bad for her since she didn't seem very old if discount the effects drug use.

I had her asking me for a cigarette and for change about three weeks ago (if its the same girl, sounds like it). I have to say normally when I see beggars I am pretty immune to it, but when I see a youngish local girl looking so bad and begging it really hit home with me. Poor girl is probably only early twenties and is in such a bad situation (I'd assume anyway). The drug problem is getting worse.

People can dig their heads in the sand all they want, but is there much support there for them to get help? I don't know much about the help that is available to them but hopefully if they look for help its there for them, if they want to get clean.

Wanderer78 · 26-08-2015 10:13pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The drug problem is getting worse.

People can dig their heads in the sand all they want, but is there much support there for them to get help? I don't know much about the help that is available to them but hopefully if they look for help its there for them, if they want to get clean.

i think this problem is showing a much bigger and systemic failure of our mental health services and other complex failures within our society. if our drug problem is getting worse, which i personally think it is, why is this so, what is causing it and how do we deal with it? all very complex questions with probably even more complex answers. i believe these people are a result of very complex failures from all these problems. i find it very difficult to stomach it all. even though i have very little knowledge of drug addiction, im not sure these people know how to help themselves. its a very worrying development for our society. austerity certainly doesnt help the situation

26-08-2015 10:37pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

i think this problem is showing a much bigger and systemic failure of our mental health services and other complex failures within our society. if our drug problem is getting worse, which i personally think it is, why is this so, what is causing it and how do we deal with it? all very complex questions with probably even more complex answers. i believe these people are a result of very complex failures from all these problems. i find it very difficult to stomach it all. even though i have very little knowledge of drug addiction, im not sure these people know how to help themselves. its a very worrying development for our society. austerity certainly doesnt help the situation

I don't think austerity has much to do with this problem to be honest. I would think a lot of the problems in Waterford are down to a certain will known drug/loanshark gang in the city who are flooding the town with drugs. I am not a big fan of Sinn Feinn but John Hearne is doing his best to stop them. They burned out his car last year. There is a very particularly vicious gang in Waterford who control the city at the moment and its scary quite frankly. Thankfully I have nothing to do with that scene and have never got involved with them, but I do know the people and heard stories about them and they are scary people.

Wanderer78 · 26-08-2015 10:55pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't think austerity has much to do with this problem to be honest. I would think a lot of the problems in Waterford are down to a certain will known drug/loanshark gang in the city who are flooding the town with drugs. I am not a big fan of Sinn Feinn but John Hearne is doing his best to stop them. They burned out his car last year. There is a very particularly vicious gang in Waterford who control the city at the moment and its scary quite frankly. Thankfully I have nothing to do with that scene and have never got involved with them, but I do know the people and heard stories about them and they are scary people.

id disagree there. you d be shocked at the extent austerity has on a society and how much its actually a cod and completely unnecessary. austerity cuts funding to nearly all aspects of society including, garda resources, mental health services etc etc etc. the list is endless really and its completely avoidable and basically its a total lie. austerity also affects our educational system, social housing departments etc etc. all this basically creates a cluster f*ck of problems for a society. what you ll find is the result of all these problems induces mental health problems into a society, and effectively, opens pandora's box. this mainly effects the most vulnerable of society but really, it affects everybody. mental health problems are also a slow burner, so this problem will probably get worse. your not wrong about the other stuff though, we all know thats a major problem for this town and getting worse. dont forget, anyone of us or our loved ones have the ability to fall foul to these gangs at any stage of our lives. its a worrying problem for this town.

26-08-2015 11:03pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

id disagree there. you d be shocked at the extent austerity has on a society and how much its actually a cod and completely unnecessary. austerity cuts funding to nearly all aspects of society including, garda resources, mental health services etc etc etc. the list is endless really and its completely avoidable and basically its a total lie. austerity also affects our educational system, social housing departments etc etc. all this basically creates a cluster f*ck of problems for a society. what you ll find is the result of all these problems induces mental health problems into a society, and effectively, opens pandora's box. this mainly effects the most vulnerable of society but really, it affects everybody. mental health problems are also a slow burner, so this problem will probably get worse. your not wrong about the other stuff though, we all know thats a major problem for this town and getting worse. dont forget, anyone of us or our loved ones have the ability to fall foul to these gangs at any stage of our lives. its a worrying problem for this town.

I know, but what can be done about the gangs? The guards contrary to what most people think are actually doing their job the best they can, the guards arrest them and they are just left out of the courts again. This gang is behind a lot of horrible actions in the past two years but nothing has been fixed, what can get rid of them? There was even an article in News and Star a few weeks ago saying that they were making single mother who owed them money perform sexual favours on them, if they were late with their payments.

Wanderer78 · 26-08-2015 11:15pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I know, but what can be done about the gangs? The guards contrary to what most people think are actually doing their job the best they can, the guards arrest them and they are just left out of the courts again. This gang is behind a lot of horrible actions in the past two years but nothing has been fixed, what can get rid of them? There was even an article in News and Star a few weeks ago saying that they were making single mother who owed them money perform sexual favours on them, if they were late with their payments.

i think your asking questions that all of us are asking and nobody has really come up with a solution to either. its deeply worrying me. i do think the gardai have a really tough job in general and i respect them a lot for the job they do. without them we d simply dissolve as a society. we need a body to enforce law and to protect us all. there does seem to be a failure in our laws regarding these issues. it must be very frustrating for everybody involved, i.e. gardai, judges, etc, when these criminals just simply get away with these things. ah ive heard of the antics of this gang for a long time now including the sexual elements of it, very disturbing stuff. theres some very vulnerable people out there that are already in the clutches of this gang or almost there. i know some of these people. disturbing stuff, worrying in fact.

crazyman · 27-08-2015 9:16am

From WLR website:

"Gardai in Waterford City are investigating an incident between two rival groups in the City Centre. Between eight and ten people were involved in the altercation and damage was caused to a car, a camper van and a house. It happened in the Anne Street/Thomas Street areas of the City shortly after 2.00pm.Weapons are believed to have been used during the course of the incident."

Can anyone shed some light on what happened?

reni10 · 27-08-2015 10:39am

According to reports on FB it was a brawl between 2 groups of Irish Travellers.

Allegedly 1 group live in a house on Anne St and it was attacked.

Wanderer78 · 27-08-2015 11:55am

crazyman wrote: »

From WLR website:

"Gardai in Waterford City are investigating an incident between two rival groups in the City Centre. Between eight and ten people were involved in the altercation and damage was caused to a car, a camper van and a house. It happened in the Anne Street/Thomas Street areas of the City shortly after 2.00pm.Weapons are believed to have been used during the course of the incident."

Can anyone shed some light on what happened?

reni10 wrote: »

According to reports on FB it was a brawl between 2 groups of Irish Travellers.

Allegedly 1 group live in a house on Anne St and it was attacked.

any videos?

TheQuietFella · 27-08-2015 2:02pm

I think we need a few death squads much like they have in Brazil and Argentina. :cool:

StringerBell · 27-08-2015 4:37pm

Yesterday was an altercation between a traveller, who brought the trouble to his doorstep and the big group who did the damage to his house, camper van and car were the Freewheelers.

wellboytoo · 31-08-2015 2:56pm

TheQuietFella wrote: »

Waterford is a hole with little or no advertising of attractions outside the city or means of transport to any particular destination outside of the city. The emphasis appears to be on keeping the tourist in the city without seeing the rest of the county. What bus will bring you to Mt. Congreve or Bunmahon for example? City is filthy and is a poor reflection on us all. More beggars than tourists at this stage.

As for that FB page, their photography does more harm than good!

Just to prove you're talking out your arse
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/litter-levels-in-dublin-city-centre-rising-survey-finds-1.2334206?utm_source=morning_digest&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news_digest

01-09-2015 12:43am

wellboytoo wrote: »

Just to prove you're talking out your arse
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/litter-levels-in-dublin-city-centre-rising-survey-finds-1.2334206?utm_source=morning_digest&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news_digest

In fairness the majority of what he said was mostly true and if you disagree with his points why be so abrupt with saying stuff like "you're talking out of your arse", why not just say I disagree with your point?

wellboytoo · 01-09-2015 6:18am

Deleted User wrote: »

In fairness the majority of what he said was mostly true and if you disagree with his points why be so abrupt with saying stuff like "you're talking out of your arse", why not just say I disagree with your point?

Because his post was deliberately offensive and meant to rile to the point of trolling if you must ask,I also bolďed the part I vehemently disagreed with and I'm an irascible crank as well . I normally don't explain myself to perfect strangers but just this once I will make an exception for you!

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TheQuietFella · 01-09-2015 9:00am

wellboytoo wrote: »

Just to prove you're talking out your arse
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/litter-levels-in-dublin-city-centre-rising-survey-finds-1.2334206?utm_source=morning_digest&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news_digest

What has this to do with anything? Waterford is still a hole!

TheQuietFella · 01-09-2015 9:02am

wellboytoo wrote: »

Because his post was deliberately offensive and meant to rile to the point of trolling if you must ask,I also bolďed the part I vehemently disagreed with and I'm an irascible crank as well . I normally don't explain myself to perfect strangers but just this once I will make an exception for you!

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I'm an offensive troll now? The curse of democracy!

wellboytoo · 01-09-2015 9:58am

TheQuietFella wrote: »

What has this to do with anything? Waterford is still a hole!

You said the City is filthy. IBAL an independent body who arbitrate on these matters say your wrong. That's what it has to do with it .

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2015 10:37am

TheQuietFella wrote: »

What has this to do with anything? Waterford is still a hole!

hmm id say syria is a hole at the moment or maybe theres a few new holes there. waterford is fine, in fact it has some fantastic countryside. town doesnt look half bad either

TheQuietFella · 01-09-2015 1:00pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

hmm id say syria is a hole at the moment or maybe theres a few new holes there. waterford is fine, in fact it has some fantastic countryside. town doesnt look half bad either

It doesn't look half bad from a distance!

I'll prove it to ye all later so!

ejabrod · 01-09-2015 2:38pm

Waterford city is a hole, was when I lived there and still is now.

TheQuietFella · 01-09-2015 3:53pm

ejabrod wrote: »

Waterford city is a hole, was when I lived there and still is now.

An honest ex-Waterfordian troll!

obezyana · 01-09-2015 4:31pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

hmm id say syria is a hole at the moment or maybe theres a few new holes there. waterford is fine, in fact it has some fantastic countryside. town doesnt look half bad either

If all these immigrants reach our shores we might just be renamed the New Islamic Republic of Syria.

Boskowski · 01-09-2015 8:18pm

They're refugees. And they're unlikely to ever arrive at our shores.

obezyana · 01-09-2015 8:31pm

Boskowski wrote: »

They're refugees. And they're unlikely to ever arrive at our shores.

You think so? Well then how come Ireland has already agreed to take some so therefore it will reach our shores and if you think Ireland will escape what is currently going on then I think you may be in some way naive.

JenniFurr · 01-09-2015 8:51pm

It makes me laugh the amount of Irish people who seem to dislike/hate immigration. I doubt there's one among us who hasn't had at least one relative leave Ireland to find work but when it's our turn to accept people we act like we should somehow be immune.

I know Ireland's not doing so well at the moment and some immigrants aren't upstanding citizens but a lot who try to come to this country are coming from a far worse situation and deserve some kindness and respect. There's enough xenophobia already, there's no need to bred more.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2015 8:58pm

JenniFurr wrote: »

It makes me laugh the amount of Irish people who seem to dislike/hate immigration. I doubt there's one among us who hasn't had at least one relative leave Ireland to find work but when it's our turn to accept people we act like we should somehow be immune.

I know Ireland's not doing so well at the moment and some immigrants aren't upstanding citizens but a lot who try to come to this country are coming from a far worse situation and deserve some kindness and respect. There's enough xenophobia already, there's no need to bred more.

thats fair enough but europe just isn't gonna put the money forward to properly deal with this problem. this is gonna be a complete disaster. morally its right for us to open our doors to these people but i dont think we re gonna deal with it very well. i do think many of these people are gonna be ticking time bombs to as anybody would be coming from where theyre coming from. again a large amount of money and resources is required to properly deal with these kind of problems, and that aint gonna happen. worrying times ahead for europe regarding this issue

obezyana · 01-09-2015 9:01pm

JenniFurr wrote: »

It makes me laugh the amount of Irish people who seem to dislike/hate immigration. I doubt there's one among us who hasn't had at least one relative leave Ireland to find work but when it's our turn to accept people we act like we should somehow be immune.

I know Ireland's not doing so well at the moment and some immigrants aren't upstanding citizens but a lot who try to come to this country are coming from a far worse situation and deserve some kindness and respect. There's enough xenophobia already, there's no need to bred more.

I most certainly dont dislike immigration it has its benefits but it needs to be controlled and we need to sort our own people first, but the issue that is annoying some people here is the way the immigrants/refugees )or whatever the pc word of the day) is coming in seem to get preferential treatment over our citizens. How is it fair if our government is ready to take in hundreds of people and house them give them money but yet and still we have Irish people living on the streets Irish people who are being promised housing but have to wait years go get it. Tell me how is that fair?

JenniFurr · 01-09-2015 9:36pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

thats fair enough but europe just isn't gonna put the money forward to properly deal with this problem. this is gonna be a complete disaster. morally its right for us to open our doors to these people but i dont think we re gonna deal with it very well. i do think many of these people are gonna be ticking time bombs to as anybody would be coming from where theyre coming from. again a large amount of money and resources is required to properly deal with these kind of problems, and that aint gonna happen. worrying times ahead for europe regarding this issue

obezyana wrote: »

I most certainly dont dislike immigration it has its benefits but it needs to be controlled and we need to sort our own people first, but the issue that is annoying some people here is the way the immigrants/refugees )or whatever the pc word of the day) is coming in seem to get preferential treatment over our citizens. How is it fair if our government is ready to take in hundreds of people and house them give them money but yet and still we have Irish people living on the streets Irish people who are being promised housing but have to wait years go get it. Tell me how is that fair?

I'm not saying it won't become a disaster. I can't see the future. All I wanted was to remind people that these immigrants aren't some sort of plague, just people worse off than us. If you dislike how it might be handled that's fair enough but don't blame migrants, blame the government(s). We don't have to like the situation but I hate this them vs us mentality.

obezyana · 01-09-2015 9:44pm

JenniFurr wrote: »

I'm not saying it won't become a disaster. I can't see the future. All I wanted was to remind people that these immigrants aren't some sort of plague, just people worse off than us. If you dislike how it might be handled that's fair enough but don't blame migrants, blame the government(s). We don't have to like the situation but I hate this them vs us mentality.

Maybe your generalising with the bold bit but if not I must add that I never blamed them nor did I say anything regarding us v them. I do blame the government and to be fair I did mention that in one of my posts. We are obliged to take in some immigrants and I have no issue with that but we must remember our own people first.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2015 10:06pm

obezyana wrote: »

we must remember our own people first

you can understand why hungary are doing what theyre doing

obezyana · 01-09-2015 10:16pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

you can understand why hungary are doing what theyre doing

Absolutely. Unfortunately it is sad to see it happening but happening it is nonetheless and our government must take a stance and not be bullied by the likes of Germany into taking in an amount that is not sustainable either economically or socially. The housing crisis is a serious issue in Ireland and it needs sorting and taking in more & more people and giving them houses over our own people is wrong and it should not be happening.

Also the sad thing is that if one makes a stance on this very issue they are accused of being racists or the likes which is bull crap. I most certainly am not racist or anything like it but id rather see our own looked after before we commit to others.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2015 10:18pm

obezyana wrote: »

Absolutely. Unfortunately it is sad to see it happening but happening it is nonetheless and our government must take a stance and not be bullied by the likes of Germany into taking in an amount that is not sustainable either economically or socially. The housing crisis is a serious issue in Ireland and it needs sorting and taking in more & more people and giving them houses over our own people is wrong and it should not be happening.

Also the sad thing is that if one makes a stance on this very issue they are accused of being racists or the likes which is bull crap. I most certainly am not racist or anything like it but id rather see our own looked after before we commit to others.

bang on. im deeply concerned with our escalating housing problem

obezyana · 01-09-2015 10:22pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

bang on. im deeply concerned with our escalating housing problem

Yeah me too it is sickening to read and see about evictions, homelessness, then Ireland being taken to task about their desire or want to take in numbers which in reality we just cant handle.

Expect this thread to be locked as it is gone off topic. :rolleyes:

Nite Klub · 02-09-2015 2:25pm

I returned home recently with renewed enthusiasm having read this thread. I took to the streets in search of some decent drugs. You can only imagine my disappointment to find there was none available. Not a single drug pusher salivating over children playing in the park could be found. T'was most disappointing I can tell you. Not one to be deterred I pushed onwards into the city centre to see if there were any immigrants hanging about with drugs to spare. None of them had a clue what I was asking for, maybe they want to keep all the good stuff for themselves which isn't nice considering how hospitable we have been.

Does anyone have any idea where I can get some decent drugs on my next visit home please?

02-09-2015 3:03pm

Nite Klub wrote: »

I returned home recently with renewed enthusiasm having read this thread. I took to the streets in search of some decent drugs. You can only imagine my disappointment to find there was none available. Not a single drug pusher salivating over children playing in the park could be found. T'was most disappointing I can tell you. Not one to be deterred I pushed onwards into the city centre to see if there were any immigrants hanging about with drugs to spare. None of them had a clue what I was asking for, maybe they want to keep all the good stuff for themselves which isn't nice considering how hospitable we have been.

Does anyone have any idea where I can get some decent drugs on my next visit home please?

If you want to find the junkies, go to the little childrens park with the trains near Manor street once its dark. You will find people injecting/smoking drugs in that park.

Also I know you were joking but I don't think anyone has said that the junkies are foreign? I know that there probably are some foreign drug addicts but in general from my experience they are mostly Irish.

Nite Klub · 02-09-2015 4:03pm

Thanks for the response LoT. I'll have you know that a while ago in Paris I came across loads of drug users and guess what?...every single one of them was foreign. Not a single one of them was ginger or freckley. I deduced from that maybe all druggies are foreigners and Erin's children are saintly by comparison.

God Bless.

obezyana · 02-09-2015 4:06pm

Nite Klub wrote: »

Thanks for the response LoT. I'll have you know that a while ago in Paris I came across loads of drug users and guess what?...every single one of them was foreign. Not a single one of them was ginger or freckley. I deduced from that maybe all druggies are foreigners and Erin's children are saintly by comparison.

God Bless.

What??? No Scottish people in Paris.....well I never

fiachr_a · 02-09-2015 5:23pm

JenniFurr wrote: »

I know Ireland's not doing so well at the moment and some immigrants aren't upstanding citizens but a lot who try to come to this country are coming from a far worse situation and deserve some kindness and respect. There's enough xenophobia already, there's no need to bred more.

There were local lads in my class in primary getting hit by the teacher for writing with their left hand. That was the 1980s so recent enough. How can a country with people like that suddenly welcome these foreigners and integrate with them?

Nite Klub · 02-09-2015 5:54pm

obezyana wrote: »

What??? No Scottish people in Paris.....well I never

He he he

02-09-2015 5:56pm

I honestly don't think being foreign has anything to do with anything, people are people at the end of the day. Irish people are the ones causing the majority of the trouble around town, so why are people even discussing foreigners on a thread about Waterford being full of drugs?

fiachr_a · 02-09-2015 6:01pm

Because a gang from Lithuania are openly selling drugs in town that's why. Some of these people don't even have a welfare number as they're here for one thing.

02-09-2015 6:38pm

fiachr_a wrote: »

Because a gang from Lithuania are openly selling drugs in town that's why. Some of these people don't even have a welfare number as they're here for one thing.

There is a gang of Lithanuians selling drugs in town? First I heard of that. What evidence do you have to support that claim?

fiachr_a · 02-09-2015 6:52pm

Get this week's News and Star and read page 12.

Sounds · 02-09-2015 6:55pm

When I was in my teens, about 14 years old, the Savoy arcade was still open, where Super Macs is now.
Red square wasn't there, just benches, that area was always full of druggies, more so at the weekends.
That's back when a few south east clubs were some of the best in Europe, "early 90's article in DJ Mag"
So with the music comes a culture, and I wouldn't have admitted back then, that does involve drugs.
They dealt with those issues by removing the sources, the establishments.

There use to be people hanging around there picking out kids to sell them drugs and get them hooked.
I know that because I was one of the unfortunate kids that fell for it, but to be honest, everyone I knew
back then was either hooked on drugs or alcohol, or both in many cases, between the ages of 15 to 18.
The population has grown a lot since, so I think the market has grown too, O'Connell street out of control.
I grew up around the city, knew the people, drugs are a lot easier for kids to get their hands on now days.

20+ years later I caught one of the same guys trying to push drugs on a family member and their friends.
But I wasn't the same kid they met 20+ years ago and they went on their way fairly fast, they know their
time is coming and so do I. The same guy knocked me out when I couldn't pay 20 pound for sharing a joint.

In 2013 I finished another college course on Waterford city, was the oldest out of the whole class, just brushing up
on my skills and learning something new, I could see the affects of drugs all around me, in the class rooms and outside.
People snorting cocaine in the morning, the smell of weed all over the place, I can honestly say I didn't touch anything.
The tutors can't really do anything, they know when a kid is too wasted to get involved in projects, what can you do.

But it's sad because younger kids are able to get this crap as easily as a pack of cigs, everyone knows someone.
And it has a big impact on your mentality, the way you think and how you interact, a young mind is not fully developed,
So taking drugs doesn't help your brain's development, you become an idiot, people know when they talk to you, numb to life.
And you probably won't even get a clue until you're in your 20's/30's and haven't a brain cell left and wondering what happened.

The problem is that it's normal to many people, you know just like someone that has a drink problem, they drink to feel better.
And it can be a lonely world in most cases.

That's why the hostels are full of misfortunes, people that can't make it on their own, they've messed themselves up so much.
Or life just wasn't as good to them as it may have been for someone else, when you know the people you can say those things.
But for the rest, they usually just stay clear, don't want to know about it, just tell everyone that there's a problem and hope it gets fixed right?

Fair play to anyone that trys to help, the Vincent's etc.

I met so many people around the city that are passionate about music, most of them will never get an opportunity to
do something musical that could benefit them in the future, or just to be involved with people that share the same passions.
I wish I could bring my music project to life in Waterford City, but funding would be difficult, it wouldn't be for profit really.
So who wants to invest in something that doesn't make them money.

Youth centers, music clubs etc. they give people something to do, which in a way is cool because those few
hours can be spent interacting and learning, which might otherwise be spent spaced out of your mind.

Well I don't think it's going to get better, everyone is out to make money of other people's misfortune.
I think most of these kids are very talented, they're just not able to get a clean start in life.

I see men wondering the streets, I know when someone is hooked on heroin, I knew those kids in school.
It just makes me think I'm lucky I have a roof over my head tonight, they do too, in the men's hostel.

Sad world, I'd deport most of those foreigners if i was in government, but some people do come here to make a better life.
The rest take our benefits, stick together and bring in the money, sell drugs on our streets, the police have a tough job.
I'm thinking there's not as many police as there use to be either, it's not easy to approach some of these scum bags.

I guess I'm trying to say there has always been a drug problem in Waterford, just like every other county.

The city needs a legalized IRA. group, not for violent purposes but to take care of business, help the police, round 'em up, ship 'em out!

02-09-2015 7:34pm

Sounds wrote: »

When I was in my teens, about 14 years old, the Savoy arcade was still open, where Super Macs is now.
Red square wasn't there, just benches, that area was always full of druggies, more so at the weekends.
That's back when a few south east clubs were some of the best in Europe, "early 90's article in DJ Mag"
So with the music comes a culture, and I wouldn't have admitted back then, that does involve drugs.
They dealt with those issues by removing the sources, the establishments.

There use to be people hanging around there picking out kids to sell them drugs and get them hooked.
I know that because I was one of the unfortunate kids that fell for it, but to be honest, everyone I knew
back then was either hooked on drugs or alcohol, or both in many cases, between the ages of 15 to 18.
The population has grown a lot since, so I think the market has grown too, O'Connell street out of control.
I grew up around the city, knew the people, drugs are a lot easier for kids to get their hands on now days.

20+ years later I caught one of the same guys trying to push drugs on a family member and their friends.
But I wasn't the same kid they met 20+ years ago and they went on their way fairly fast, they know their
time is coming and so do I. The same guy knocked me out when I couldn't pay 20 pound for sharing a joint.

In 2013 I finished another college course on Waterford city, was the oldest out of the whole class, just brushing up
on my skills and learning something new, I could see the affects of drugs all around me, in the class rooms and outside.
People snorting cocaine in the morning, the smell of weed all over the place, I can honestly say I didn't touch anything.
The tutors can't really do anything, they know when a kid is too wasted to get involved in projects, what can you do.

But it's sad because younger kids are able to get this crap as easily as a pack of cigs, everyone knows someone.
And it has a big impact on your mentality, the way you think and how you interact, a young mind is not fully developed,
So taking drugs doesn't help your brain's development, you become an idiot, people know when they talk to you, numb to life.
And you probably won't even get a clue until you're in your 20's/30's and haven't a brain cell left and wondering what happened.

The problem is that it's normal to many people, you know just like someone that has a drink problem, they drink to feel better.
And it can be a lonely world in most cases.

That's why the hostels are full of misfortunes, people that can't make it on their own, they've messed themselves up so much.
Or life just wasn't as good to them as it may have been for someone else, when you know the people you can say those things.
But for the rest, they usually just stay clear, don't want to know about it, just tell everyone that there's a problem and hope it gets fixed right?

Fair play to anyone that trys to help, the Vincent's etc.

I met so many people around the city that are passionate about music, most of them will never get an opportunity to
do something musical that could benefit them in the future, or just to be involved with people that share the same passions.
I wish I could bring my music project to life in Waterford City, but funding would be difficult, it wouldn't be for profit really.
So who wants to invest in something that doesn't make them money.

Youth centers, music clubs etc. they give people something to do, which in a way is cool because those few
hours can be spent interacting and learning, which might otherwise be spent spaced out of your mind.

Well I don't think it's going to get better, everyone is out to make money of other people's misfortune.
I think most of these kids are very talented, they're just not able to get a clean start in life.

I see men wondering the streets, I know when someone is hooked on heroin, I knew those kids in school.
It just makes me think I'm lucky I have a roof over my head tonight, they do too, in the men's hostel.

Sad world, I'd deport most of those foreigners if i was in government, but some people do come here to make a better life.
The rest take our benefits, stick together and bring in the money, sell drugs on our streets, the police have a tough job.
I'm thinking there's not as many police as there use to be either, it's not easy to approach some of these scum bags.

The city needs a legalized IRA. group, not for violent purposes but to take care of business, round 'em up, ship 'em out!

I'm in WIT at the moment and I have never seen this drug use you claim. People doing coke in the mornings :eek: Some weed floating about now and again but that is hardly much harm.

Sounds · 02-09-2015 7:42pm

I'm sure it's not totally free from drugs but anyway, better organised, good college for anyone that wants to learn.
I mean why would you even put yourself into education and abuse your brain for the entire duration, thankfully I didn't.
Weed or whatever, they all affect people differently, some people can feel fine, others messed up, better to stay clear.
Just think it's harder for a young person to stay clear, that's when they need to be getting stuff done that's important.

Really all I'm saying is that there is and always has been drug issues, but not just in waterford City.

"Junkie City"

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