"Junkie City"

Smiley Burnett

Recent Headline on News and Star describes Waterford City . Is it Sensationalist Nonsense or Fair Comment?

fiachr_a

Better junkie city than stab city.

Celly Smunt

Junkie maybe.

City? Naaaah

Smiley Burnett

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

Recent Headline on News and Star describes Waterford City . Is it Sensationalist Nonsense or Fair Comment?

No its not sensationalist unfortunately. There is so many junkies around begging and pestering people around town. There is used needles everywhere around town its disgusting. If some people here say its not sensationalist Im assuming these people aren't in around town much.

fiachr_a

fiachr_a wrote: »

Better junkie city than stab city.

Unfortunately with junkies there are going to be dealers to make money off these people and that is when the stabbings start.

Wanderer78

so what is going to be done about it and what should be done?

kayaksurfbum

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There is used needles everywhere around town

EVERYWHERE????

Now thats an exaggeration.

kayaksurfbum

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

EVERYWHERE????

Now thats an exaggeration.

Living in town I see it all to often unfortunately. Horrible sight to see, obviously when I said everywhere I was making a point and I didn't mean that people had to swim in them to get home from work.

There is an awful lot of it going on in my street. Horrible horrible drug and turns people into zombies.

kayaksurfbum

So,, I would say that its limited to a few streets then?

kayaksurfbum

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

So,, I would say that its limited to a few streets then?

I live near enough to centre of town. In the city as in the actual centre its very all over the place at night (even though its kept away from the nightclub area). Like just last night on my street there was two junkies fighting a man and a woman and they were tearing chunks out of each other, before anyone says how do I know they aren't drunks? because they live about 20 doors up and are always whacked out of it.

In the sense is it limited to a few streets? Yes, I would say that if you are out living on the Dunmore road or a suburb like that then you are less likely to notice it as much.

BBM77

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

Recent Headline on News and Star describes Waterford City . Is it Sensationalist Nonsense or Fair Comment?

Yes Waterford city has a drug problem like all urban areas but this article is complete sensationalist exaggeration with nothing more behind it than a desire to sell papers. I don’t think it is even worthy of discussion or deserves anymore highlighting and in my opinion this thread should be locked.

obezyana

Sensationalist....Every city in this country is plagued with junkies. It is unfortunate but that's the way things are these days i suppose.

Bongalongherb

Get yourself and your local community to bombard their local TD's and maybe, just maybe something will be done. Without doing this, nothing will happen, it will just continue to be a problem. No time for laziness.

Aquos76

obezyana wrote: »

Sensationalist....Every city in this country is plagued with junkies. It is unfortunate but that's the way things are these days i suppose.

What was "Sensationalist" about the article?

obezyana

Aquos76 wrote: »

What was "Sensationalist" about the article?

Who said anything about the article. The question was asked was the headline sensationalist.

Aquos76

obezyana wrote: »

Who said anything about the article. The question was asked was the headline sensationalist.

Fair enough, was just checking cause I thought the article was actually very good.

actually BBM77 said the article was "sensationalist" I'd be curious to know why he thought that. I don't buy his argument that it was a case of selling more papers.

Bongalongherb

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Get yourself and your local community to bombard their local TD's and maybe, just maybe something will be done. Without doing this, nothing will happen, it will just continue to be a problem. No time for laziness.

I have and do. There isn't much they can do really, they say they will say it to the guards etc but nothing will be done. I call the guards a few times cause of their activities and all they do is chase them off but they are back around again the next day. Not much the guards can do either really, I don't have a bad word about the guards when I let them know if anything is happening generally they are here quick enough lately.

beyondbelief67

I'm quite central to the town too, and have seen needles left in the park, along the river walk way by tkmaxx and by bishops palace, I never noticed them until I was walking my dog and unfortunately he finds everything.
I think it must of been the night for madness last night.
There were a couple outside mine too who decided to argue up and down the street for couple of hours and of course they took the dog out with them just for the hell of it ! Totally off there heads early hours of the morning.

beyondbelief67

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

I'm quite central to the town too, and have seen needles left in the park, along the river walk way by tkmaxx and by bishops palace, I never noticed them until I was walking my dog and unfortunately he finds everything.
I think it must of been the night for madness last night.
There were a couple outside mine too who decided to argue up and down the street for couple of hours and of course they took the dog out with them just for the hell of it ! Totally off there heads early hours of the morning.

We live very close then cause I saw that happen also, 4am in the rain with the dog howling and those two roaring at each other? Across from the playground?

beyondbelief67

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We live very close then cause I saw that happen also, 4am in the rain with the dog howling and those two roaring at each other? Across from the playground?

That's it yes, how delightful a night /morning that was !

beyondbelief67

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

That's it yes, how delightful a night /morning that was !

Haha you living around there long? That is quite compared to some nights :pac:

RedemptionZ

Not near the level of the bad parts of Dublin tbh. Definite heroin problem but as someone said you name a city that doesn't have a heroin problem. Obviously some people argue that Waterford doesn't actually have a city but for arguments sake we'll say it does.

Tragamin2k2

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Not near the level of the bad parts of Dublin tbh. Definite heroin problem but as someone said you name a city that doesn't have a heroin problem. Obviously some people argue that Waterford doesn't actually have a city but for arguments sake we'll say it does.

could literally name hundreds.or irish cities?

RedemptionZ

Tragamin2k2 wrote: »

could literally name hundreds.or irish cities?

There aren't a hundred cities in Ireland.

BBM77

Aquos76 wrote: »

Fair enough, was just checking cause I thought the article was actually very good.

actually BBM77 said the article was "sensationalist" I'd be curious to know why he thought that. I don't buy his argument that it was a case of selling more papers.

Like I said I don’t think this article or headline is even worthy of discussion or deserves anymore highlighting.

zurbfoundation

What amazes me is that its pretty recent, Dublin had major problems in the 80's and its taken about 30 years for it to spread to rural towns.

Hoffmans

Not there yet but if we hosted an episode of the walking dead we would nearly have enough of ready to go extras..

MartyMcFly84

What amazes me is that its pretty recent, Dublin had major problems in the 80's and its taken about 30 years for it to spread to rural towns.

Its back with a bang in Dublin, and I am sure filtering down from there. You see it more in certain places but its all over the city. The Luas is a great "free" transport for them to get around.

Its cheap, plentiful and wildly available the last number of years, a knock on effect of the economy over that time. Same thing as in the 80s, when joblessness went up so did the number of junkies. With available cash so goes the drugs of choice, heroin being much cheaper than say cocaine which was big during the Celtic Tiger days.

Tragamin2k2

RedemptionZ wrote: »

There aren't a hundred cities in Ireland.

yepp hence the "or irish cities?"

Aquos76

BBM77 wrote: »

Like I said I don’t think this article or headline is even worthy of discussion or deserves anymore highlighting.

Stupid answer tbh, you'd prefer if it was just ignored then, go back to burying your head in the sand then.

TrustedApple

Quite a few times i have seen people shooting up inside the trains in front of railway square at night and then earlier in the evening you have all the little scum bags sitting in the trains smoking magic grass and drinking.

If it was me i would get rid of them trains as there seems to be none stop anti social crap going on there.

samapple789

samapple789 wrote: »

Quite a few times i have seen people shooting up inside the trains in front of railway square at night and then earlier in the evening you have all the little scum bags sitting in the trains smoking magic grass and drinking.

If it was me i would get rid of them trains as there seems to be none stop anti social crap going on there.

Yeah, I see people pissing/shooting up/drinking/smoking in those trains/playground and then the next morning I see people letting their kids play in that playground People who are letting their children play in the playground in railway square need to be very careful a child doesn't accidentally prick themselves on a needle.

RedemptionZ

Tragamin2k2 wrote: »

yepp hence the "or irish cities?"

Didn't understand what you were saying there. Ok name all these cities!

BBM77

Aquos76 wrote: »

Stupid answer tbh, you'd prefer if it was just ignored then, go back to burying your head in the sand then.

If you care to read my first post I acknowledged that Waterford has a drug problem like all urban areas how is that ignoring it. If anybody thinks this headline/article was not about attention seeking to increase sales is naive in the extreme. I have no problem at all with discussing Waterford’s drug problem but splashing a headline across a local paper calling Waterford a junkie city is extremely irresponsible and damaging. Given the context that (a) it is untrue and the problem in question is no worse than any other urban area in the country and most importantly (b) the work being done to attract investment into the city and the false impression the headline/article gives to people not familiar with the Waterford. For those reasons I believe it is not worthy of discussion or deserves anymore highlighting.

Aquos76

You said that the whole article was sensationalist, I can't agree with you on that, yes I do agree that the headline was ott, but the reporting in the article was clearly well researched and obviously had the input from people directly affected by what's rapidly becoming a huge problem in the city.

The Bowling Alley

BBM77 wrote: »

If you care to read my first post I acknowledged that Waterford has a drug problem like all urban areas how is that ignoring it. If anybody thinks this headline/article was not about attention seeking to increase sales is naive in the extreme. I have no problem at all with discussing Waterford’s drug problem but splashing a headline across a local paper calling Waterford a junkie city is extremely irresponsible and damaging. Given the context that (a) it is untrue and the problem in question is no worse than any other urban area in the country and most importantly (b) the work being done to attract investment into the city and the false impression the headline/article gives to people not familiar with the Waterford. For those reasons I believe it is not worthy of discussion or deserves anymore highlighting.

So, what you're saying is that newspapers should never print anything negative, regardless of truth, in case it affects future investment?

KingBrian2

I have been to Waterford lovely city, proud history. Shame nobody affords it any time. All the other cities are treated like cities Waterford is just left be, that will be bad for the local economy and lets hope the inhabitants will be able to reignite the city. Lets not forget along with Dublin and Limerick we were all founded by Vikings.

magick

KingBrian2 wrote: »

I have been to Waterford lovely city, proud history. Shame nobody affords it any time. All the other cities are treated like cities Waterford is just left be, that will be bad for the local economy and lets hope the inhabitants will be able to reignite the city. Lets not forget along with Dublin and Limerick we were all founded by Vikings.

I find also too many people forget the fantastic mountains and beaches we have, beautiful Waterford Imagery fb page is a fantastic resource for sites around the county

TheQuietFella

Shams wrote: »

I find also too many people forget the fantastic mountains and beaches we have, beautiful Waterford Imagery fb page is a fantastic resource for sites around the county

Waterford is a hole with little or no advertising of attractions outside the city or means of transport to any particular destination outside of the city. The emphasis appears to be on keeping the tourist in the city without seeing the rest of the county. What bus will bring you to Mt. Congreve or Bunmahon for example? City is filthy and is a poor reflection on us all. More beggars than tourists at this stage.

As for that FB page, their photography does more harm than good!

Aquos76

Describing Waterford as a "Hole" is very harsh, yes the city has its faults, but a lot of good initiatives are on going to try and turn things around. It's comments like that from people who actually live in the city that do our city more harm that what was on the front of the News & Star.

wellboytoo

TheQuietFella wrote: »

Waterford is a hole with little or no advertising of attractions outside the city or means of transport to any particular destination outside of the city. The emphasis appears to be on keeping the tourist in the city without seeing the rest of the county. What bus will bring you to Mt. Congreve or Bunmahon for example? City is filthy and is a poor reflection on us all. More beggars than tourists at this stage.

As for that FB page, their photography does more harm than good!

Your name belies your fingers

Road-Hog

Deleted User wrote: »

I live near enough to centre of town. In the city as in the actual centre its very all over the place at night (even though its kept away from the nightclub area). Like just last night on my street there was two junkies fighting a man and a woman and they were 'tearing chunks' out of each other, before anyone says how do I know they aren't drunks? because they live about 20 doors up and are always whacked out of it.

In the sense is it limited to a few streets? Yes, I would say that if you are out living on the Dunmore road or a suburb like that then you are less likely to notice it as much.

More exaggeration, did you see parts of ears, nose etc strewn on the street ??

kaef

samapple789 wrote: »

If it was me i would get rid of them trains as there seems to be none stop anti social crap going on there.

One of my dreams is to get a good few healthy lads and patrol areas like this in the evenings and provide free "cleaning service" if you know what i mean.

Wanderer78

kaef wrote: »

One of my dreams is to get a good few healthy lads and patrol areas like this in the evenings and provide free "cleaning service" if you know what i mean.

id say the council would only be delighted. contact them regarding ppe and equipment required. id say theyd give it to you for nothing. save them the bother

obezyana

Wanderer78 wrote: »

id say the council would only be delighted. contact them regarding ppe and equipment required. id say theyd give it to you for nothing. save them the bother

I didnt think the council provided ppe for vigilantes

TheQuietFella

Aquos76 wrote: »

Describing Waterford as a "Hole" is very harsh, yes the city has its faults, but a lot of good initiatives are on going to try and turn things around. It's comments like that from people who actually live in the city that do our city more harm that what was on the front of the News & Star.

It's my city as much as anyone else and it both saddens & sickens me
to see the state that it's in with nothing been done about it by either the City Council or Waterford Gardai. Surely it's illegal to be begging in the manner in which they do so? What in reality is advertised in Waterford that would bring people here? Don't say mountains and beaches because the world is full of them & some even more spectacular.

In my naivety I would like to think that people come here because maybe they have some Irish heritage and they would like to experience the people and culture. Instead they get Roma/Irish beggars and junkies on the street looking for €2. I had an Aussie ask me last week where could he go to hear traditional Irish music being played!!! What pub if any plays or caters for trad' Irish within our glorious city?

We need a Kerry style mentality of promoting tourism in this county.
They certainly have it in spades!

In addition! http://www.rte.ie/news/player/2015/0820/20832995-waterford-council-defends-development-of-factory-on-ring-fort-site/

Wanderer78

obezyana wrote: »

I didnt think the council provided ppe for vigilantes

ah army surplus it is then

Road-Hog

Road-Hog wrote: »

More exaggeration, did you see parts of ears, nose etc strewn on the street ??

It's an expression :rolleyes:

Why do some people on boards have to be so pedantic, it's so irritating. Obviously bits of ears, nose weren't on the street, are you just browsing boards looking to try and find people to correct people/argue with.

Speaking of town gone to the dogs, I just woke up to the sound of someone doing in Harveys nightclub windows.

beyondbelief67

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

I'm quite central to the town too, and have seen needles left in the park, along the river walk way by tkmaxx and by bishops palace, I never noticed them until I was walking my dog and unfortunately he finds everything.
I think it must of been the night for madness last night.
There were a couple outside mine too who decided to argue up and down the street for couple of hours and of course they took the dog out with them just for the hell of it ! Totally off there heads early hours of the morning.

We appear to live on the same street or very close, have you heard the noise all night or if its you keep it down :P

beyondbelief67

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We appear to live on the same street or very close, have you heard the noise all night or if its you keep it down :P

No been knocked out with pain killers past few nights, sounds like I picked perfect time to get an abscess ! Seems to be getting worse round here.