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Is online dating worth trying?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    Chad and Tryone off with Stacey and even the non Stacey's leaving nothing for us mere plebs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    For me its been about 90/10 mostly negative, at least in pubs/clubs anyway. Outside of the pub scene its been the opposite. I think its just the Irish drinking culture that I don't like.

    Has the pub or club scene ever really been positive? Ireland is too small in ways for that to work and when things are really loud its hard to chart properly.

    Its funny seeing some of comments on thread a few individuals caught up in the negatives and have nots and although they say they are happy they are not.

    Anyone looking for a relationship online or offline has to be happy in themselves. Hard to be attracted to somebody who is always down on themselves and obsessed with what they dont have.

    There are loads of men out there who wouldn't be traditionally handsome who have partners.


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Emerie Red Nose


    Calhoun wrote: »
    Anyone looking for a relationship online or offline has to be happy in themselves. Hard to be attracted to somebody who is always down on themselves and obsessed with what they dont have.

    There are loads of men out there who wouldn't be traditionally handsome who have partners.

    Exactly.

    If you're average looking but also have a miserable outlook, what are you offering women?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    When I go to college next academic year in September, I'm planning on beginning dating. I've been told to try Bumble or Tinder but then I've also heard don't bother because the odds are not in your favor as a man (too many fish trying to bite onto a hook).

    The thing is, I'm sure that I'm on the spectrum and a bit too weird for casual dating. Also never had and don't have any friends. in secondary school and worse, went to a single sex school so my opportunities are completely hampered unless I go online.

    Go out and chat to girls young lad, don't be too p1ssed and be nice, you'll be surprised how well that will serve you! Good luck.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    For me its been about 90/10 mostly negative, at least in pubs/clubs anyway. Outside of the pub scene its been the opposite. I think its just the Irish drinking culture that I don't like.
    That has a lot to do with it imho. Sure other cultures can drink like fishes, but we(and the Brits, and the Swedes of all people) tend to try to get monged on booze as fast as possible as a general thing. So you're more likely to encounter a drunk woman, who's been dealing with equally plastered men all evening so are more likely to go off on one unless you really make a good impression or she knows you to some degree.

    Having been on the razz in various places in Europe, that's not nearly so much in play. In my experience anyway. Even in places like Spain and especially Italy where the men can be full on to the point of sleaze, the women tend not to react nearly so abruptly so often. Even Parisians who have a rep for being haughty you don't see it. You'd see the cold shoulder and withering look, but the all out aggression no. Mainly because while they may be drunk they're not or very rarely fall down drunk, with extra aggro. Add in Ireland's cultural history and more recently than most where men and women were more separated growing up, and the whole church thing, and our tendency to be clannish and that might explain it.

    And I'd have to agree with Klaz and Mr Vain that you do tend to see more aggressive rebuffs here. I certainly have. More with mates as I tended not to be arsed "on the pull", preferring to meet women through social circle or happenstance in daylight hours. I've only pulled of an evening out with a complete stranger a handful of times and that was more luck than judgement and never went anywhere. Though off the top of my head I can think of a few occasions going way back when where I merely bumped into a woman, or offered help where they had a sh1tfit in response. And I can't think of one example where I would have been interested in them either, and I was usually out with a girlfriend at the time.

    This is not to denigrate Irish women, Irish men can be boorish to all hell when on the piss, so they didn't lick that response from a stone. Oh and I'm an extrovert who likes a sesh when it's in play and like talking to complete strangers, so it's not as if I'm some shrinking violet who hates "pub culture".

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    Wibbs wrote: »
    This is not to denigrate Irish women, Irish men can be boorish to all hell when on the piss, so they didn't lick that response from a stone. Oh and I'm an extrovert who likes a sesh when it's in play and like talking to complete strangers, so it's not as if I'm some shrinking violet who hates "pub culture".

    Actually, I love bar culture. I like bars where people make a genuine effort to look good.... and there's less encouragement/focus on getting drunk. Far more emphasis on conversation and a pickup/seduction culture. While many people do try hard to look good, "the pub" doesn't really require that much effort to fit in. Last time I was in a pub, there were women in nice outfits, chatting to other women in tracksuits or whatever they wore all day. A very wide variety of 'styles'. :D Not really venues where there's an enforced dress code, or mode of behavior... which continues on to the nightclubs. Irish nightclubs <Shudders>

    So, I wouldn't (and never have been) much into the Irish pub culture, nor the focus on getting plastered. The idea that becoming drunk was the highlight of the evening soured pretty fast for me. Many of my Irish male friends would have continued thinking that getting drunk was an important milestone for a night out, well into their late 30s.. It just wasn't my kind of scene, but then I never enjoyed the "Lad" culture.

    Where I grew up, women often drank "as hard" as the men. Fake tan (oompa loompa orange), overdone makeup, and outfits that weren't designed to 'cover' their body types.. haha. It was an extension of the lad culture, except the women promoted/encouraged the lads to behave a certain way, so that they could shoot down who they wanted. A hierarchy of coolness and "beauty". Makes me sad to think of what we tolerated back then. I doubt it's changed much in my hometown. TBH, judging by the way the young ones behave on a Friday/Saturday night. I'm very happy to be too old for that crowd. :pac:

    As you said, This is not to denigrate Irish women, but many Irish women are very... "manish". Which includes the coarse language, and many other mannerisms/behaviors which men get such a bad rap for. I've encountered it in Dublin as much as the countryside, so it's not a culchie thing. I always figured it was more due to the pub culture.

    I do find it interesting the criticisms that men receive, but there's little acknowledgement of the way many women mimic the male behavior. Still, each to their own. Most Irish guys seem perfectly happy with the way these women behave, or the focus on drinking in the pubs. Happy for them.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Klaz, sometimes you are just on the ball..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    I know both men & women of all levels of attractiveness who are in happy, committed relationships or who have had relationships in the past.
    I mean even being out and about it isn’t only super hot men with stunning supermodels walking around together is it?
    You’d see couples of all shapes and sizes, from the stereotypical beauties to those who wouldn’t be considered to be remotely conventionally attractive at all.
    I know being naturally good looking improves your chances but that doesn’t mean less attractive people are destined to be forever alone just because.

    Anyone can be unlucky and have a few bad experiences but if your only interactions with the opposite sex have been 100% negative, then the problem is either within yourself and your attitude (you aren’t as ‘nice’ as you think you are) or you are going for the wrong women.

    I also agree with PP about photos - these are SO important.
    They need to be recent, and the more the better. Ideally, a few close up photos of your face, a full length photo, and at least one pic with a few friends/family so an idea of your height & build can be garnered.
    I don’t have the patience to be going through 6 distant group shots playing Where’s Wally, I presume anyone who does this is insecure & I immediately swipe left.
    I hold myself to the same standard, I have pics on my profiles with and without makeup and a group shot so my weight & size can be seen.
    It’s important for both men and women to give an accurate portrayal of their height & weight, particularly on apps like Tinder where you don’t have to fill in this information.
    It just avoids any awkward questions and misunderstandings if you give as broad a view as possible of what you look like.

    Personally I won’t swipe right on anyone with less than 3 pictures - I’ve been burned too many times by taking the chance.

    Lastly, I think this lockdown is making everyone reassess their priorities & goals in life.
    A lot of people in unhappy relationships will end them in the coming weeks, a lot of people who are single will put some solid, genuine effort into meeting someone & I imagine the ones only there for an ego boost will be too busy off living their best lives to be wasting time on tinder.
    Basically, I can see a lot less time wasting all around happening. I think if you are single and really wanting to meet someone & settle down, after lockdown will be the best opportunity you’ll ever get to do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Lads WTF is a Chad?

    Is it a good or bad thing?

    :confused:

    OT.

    I used OD for a number of years. Met my now wife on POF 8 years ago.

    Im a very average looking bloke, always carried a bit of weight, am not wealthy nor was I yet I had a pretty good hit rate when it came to OD.

    A couple of key things I learned over the years from chatting to many different women when I was using it.

    Have some decent, up to date photos, at least 4 or 5 including at least two full body shots. Of course everyone wants to present the best version of themselves in photos but if you are presenting something that simply isn't the real you then you are doomed to failure. Dont have photos of yourself shirtless, honestly, no matter how toned you are, you look like a fcuking spa. Likewise photos of your car / you and your car / you shirtless and your car. You arent LL Cool J and you look like a spa.

    Put a bit of effort into your profile blurb. It doesn't need to be Ulysses by any stretch but needs to be more than "lol, hate talking about myself, like the usual stuff" or "will fill this out later". I never ever messaged anyone that didn't bother their hole to make an effort with what they were saying.

    If you message someone and they dont reply, dont send a follow up message, they arent interested and it makes you look like a desperado.

    Dont send pictures of your giblets unless they are requested, cannot stress this enough.

    If you are sending a message, put some effort into it, "hi, how are you" is not going to separate you from the scores of other gombeens on these sites. A copy and paste job is easy to spot, reference things in the woman's profile, and I dont mean saying nice tits.

    If someone sends you a decent message and you like the look of their profile, send a decent reply. One liners or stupid quips are unlikely to get you anywhere.

    Dont be a self pitying gobshyte. Nobody wants to read a message that starts with "you probably wont reply to this, lol" or "i know you are out of my league, lol". Its not cute, its not funny and you will look like a spa.

    Dont use text speak. If you cannot be bothered to put together a coherent and readable message then why bother at all. Nobody wants to date an illiterate toolbox.

    What Im seeing more and more of lately is men pissing and moaning because they cant get laid. Newsflash, if you are approaching multiple women and getting knocked back every single time the THE PROBLEM IS WITH YOU. Facebook and Tumbler have become breeding grounds for victim mentalities, oh woe is me, Im 5 stone overweight, dont have a car, live in my parents basement and havnt showered for 4 days and the Victorias Secret model I messaged didnt reply to me, what a stuck up bitch!!!!! Women are all the same, nice guys finish last, waaah waaah waaah.

    :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    Dont send pictures of your giblets unless they are requested, cannot stress this enough.

    Mind blown


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭Ultrflat


    Lads WTF is a Chad?

    Is it a good or bad thing?

    :confused:

    neither it's what resentful small minded socially awkward guys who've spent to much time playing computer games. They essentially Call guys who are good looking and or socially experienced chads...

    From what I've grasped But I also know that in gaming it can refer to a type of player who could be considered a sweat lord.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Ultrflat wrote: »
    neither it's what resentful small minded socially awkward guys who've spent to much time playing computer games. They essentially Call guys who are good looking and or socially experienced chads...

    From what I've grasped But I also know that in gaming it can refer to a type of player who could be considered a sweat lord.

    So its basically a makey uppy internet term like the 287 different genders we now have?

    Sweet.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭Ultrflat


    So its basically a makey uppy internet term like the 287 different genders we now have?

    Sweet.

    :pac:

    If I want to identify my self as and alien from the planet ZOG. I will. :pac:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,505 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Army Ranger Wing were deployed to Chad some years back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Ultrflat wrote: »
    neither it's what resentful small minded socially awkward guys who've spent to much time playing computer games. They essentially Call guys who are good looking and or socially experienced chads...

    From what I've grasped But I also know that in gaming it can refer to a type of player who could be considered a sweat lord.

    Not sure why the attack on gamers, socially awkward people and incels come in all flavors.

    I think the common denominator normally is they build an echo chamber around themselves that re-enforces their own beliefs.

    The gaming variant of the "chad" is a meme normally used to take the piss out of a weaker or stronger variation of something or if something is OP.

    A chad in other sense would just be your alpha male.


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    It's actual adults using these terms too though..that's what's worrying..
    you'd say something if it was 16 years olds..

    Anyway..back on topic..
    I think i'm at the point of giving up online dating again..
    I made a valiant effort for three days..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    It's actual adults using these terms too though..that's what's worrying..
    you'd say something if it was 16 years olds..

    Anyway..back on topic..
    I think i'm at the point of giving up online dating again..
    I made a valiant effort for three days..

    It all depends on the context, normally i have seen them used from the perspective of a joke and more of a meme. Thats just internet culture, this thread is the first time i have seen it being used seriously as a comparison for someone elses own short comings.

    What happened to cause you to give up after three days?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭Ultrflat


    Calhoun wrote: »
    Not sure why the attack on gamers, socially awkward people and incels come in all flavors.

    I think the common denominator normally is they build an echo chamber around themselves that re-enforces their own beliefs.

    The gaming variant of the "chad" is a meme normally used to take the piss out of a weaker or stronger variation of something or if something is OP.

    A chad in other sense would just be your alpha male.

    Not really considering the behavior I've experienced and had to listen to. I don't particularly feel it's a generalization based on there general out look on life.

    Yeah and when you turn around and tell them the flaws in there ideals or attitude for example political beliefs they jump on you like a bunch of pack animals.

    Tbh I've only ever heard it used by gamers etc. But again I'm not trying to offend any one just giving my out look and experence.


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    Ultrflat wrote: »
    Not really considering the behavior I've experienced and had to listen to. I don't particularly feel it's a generalization based on there general out look on life.

    Yeah and when you turn around and tell them the flaws in there ideals or attitude for example political beliefs they jump on you like a bunch of pack animals.

    Tbh I've only ever heard it used by gamers etc. But again I'm not trying to offend any one just giving my out look and experence.

    I'm a gamer, as are most of my male friends... and none of us use the term...

    It's used by people who spend too much time on social media.. gamers game. Little need for such terms.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Ultrflat wrote: »
    Not really considering the behavior I've experienced and had to listen to. I don't particularly feel it's a generalization based on there general out look on life.

    Yeah and when you turn around and tell them the flaws in there ideals or attitude for example political beliefs they jump on you like a bunch of pack animals.

    Tbh I've only ever heard it used by gamers etc. But again I'm not trying to offend any one just giving my out look and experence.

    How do you expect to be taken seriously if you generalize a whole group of people because of a hobby and let off a whole cohort of others who engage in it because they don't?

    Toxicity is a part of life and it invades pretty much every where you look. I play games and i don't think like that as do allot of my friends. In fact i did a little research and can see one definition of the term for gamer here , https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chad%20Gamer . Seems to be aimed at casuals but i rarely see it used anywhere outside of reddit.

    Don't take my criticism the wrong way, its hard to tell if your the other kind of online zealot who is a smug self righteous in the knowledge that they are part of the right political scene.

    The thing is you want to be neither of these people, if your dating or interacting with people anywhere the boards motto of dont be a dick generally is what to do..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    I love when the Incels come out of the woodwork on these threads, always good for a belly laugh.
    Roastie cope




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    When I go to college next academic year in September, I'm planning on beginning dating. I've been told to try Bumble or Tinder but then I've also heard don't bother because the odds are not in your favor as a man (too many fish trying to bite onto a hook).

    The thing is, I'm sure that I'm on the spectrum and a bit too weird for casual dating. Also never had and don't have any friends. in secondary school and worse, went to a single sex school so my opportunities are completely hampered unless I go online.





    Keep your money to yourself and live below your means.
    When you're 40 they will be queuing up to you.


    Men become more attractive with age, women 'hit the wall' at 30.



    514612.jpg

    Feminism destroyed women, they ruin men's lives and carry diseases from all these apps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    ^ I just watched a few of that guys videos.
    It’s quite clear that his entitled, bitter nasty attitude is what’s inhibiting him from meeting women, not the Chad’s stealing all the hot chicks or his fake news assumption that ALL women only like molesters, abusers and criminals and that’s why he’s having no luck.

    The irony of him mocking the women on that app for ‘going for a good personality’ when he was referring to said women as a good healthy size/weight (as if they were cattle) and commenting negatively on their appearance wasn’t lost on me either.
    What an absolute hypocrite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios





    Keep your money to yourself and live below your means.
    When you're 40 they will be queuing up to you.


    Men become more attractive with age, women 'hit the wall' at 30.



    514612.jpg

    Feminism destroyed women, they ruin men's lives and carry diseases from all these apps.

    You have clearly been out manoeuvred by Chad in the past and it still sticks in your craw. Maybe try not blaming the opposite sex or your peers for your failings and try a bit of self reflection and / or self improvement. You'd be surprised with the results you get if you keep the victim card out of play.


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    You have clearly been out manoeuvred by Chad in the past and it still sticks in your craw. Maybe try not blaming the opposite sex or your peers for your failings and try a bit of self reflection and / or self improvement. You'd be surprised with the results you get if you keep the victim card out of play.

    There is a sickness spreading which is the lack of personal responsibility for the state of a persons life. Successful dating (by whatever definition) is dependent on effective communication, which is a skill, in itself... but many people ignore the development of communication skills. If they're unsuccessful, they seek external reasons for their failures, rather than accept the responsibility for their own lack of development. They're looking for a quick fix, instead of investing the time/energy to learn new methods to communicate better. Whether that's understanding others better, or being better at expressing themselves in the appropriate fashion.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭Ultrflat


    That is the dude I was talking about... :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    ^ I just watched a few of that guys videos.
    It’s quite clear that his entitled, bitter nasty attitude is what’s inhibiting him from meeting women, not the Chad’s stealing all the hot chicks or his fake news assumption that ALL women only like molesters, abusers and criminals and that’s why he’s having no luck.

    I noticed this myself. When i was looking at some incel mass-shooter on the news I was thinking "hmmm, objectively speaking I'd say he's better looking than me so why's he driven to murder loads of people over his lack of success with women?". It's a problem with their personality, not their looks. In fact in most cases they seem to just think it's beneath them to treat women with basic respect, not to be confused with a creepy madonna/whore worship/resentful rage, and lose the rag when acting like a massive spa gets them nowhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    There is a sickness spreading which is the lack of personal responsibility for the state of a persons life.


    I agree and it mostly affects women:





    But it's somehow not culturally acceptable to shame women. It's a double standard. When a woman does something it's always 'not her fault'.



    Feminists taught normal women to hate men and to behave like they are 10/10. This is a mainstream thing now in the west. What will happen is: they will get old, catch all kind of Tinder diseases (doctors don't know what to call any more) and end up childless, ugly, truly alone.



    BTW I'm not a 'truecel' and rejected women making advances towards me. But I can see where they're coming from. It's a gyno-centric society, a woman is always 'right' and protected by all government institutions.


    If you create a society that throws young men overboard there's only one possible outcome:








    There's definitely a problem now with social cohesion in the western world.


    My prediction is that most men will stop bothering with women. They will have more meaningful relationships with robots.


    If a guy wearing a motion-capture suit makes more money in a day than all cam-girls in a week you know you have a problem:





    (I know this is some right wing nut who made his dog do the roman salute, don't care about his politics)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I agree and it mostly affects women:

    I disagree. It's something that is common with both genders, and is perhaps more obvious with men, because they're the ones who usually have to do the first moves.

    There are many problems growing due to the influence of feminism and pop culture for women... but TBH the toxic aspect of the internet is affecting people of both genders.


  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68


    Ultrflat wrote: »
    If I want to identify my self as and alien from the planet ZOG. I will. :pac:

    You people have one joke


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    cian68 wrote: »
    You people have one joke

    "you people"? :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    I agree and it mostly affects women:





    But it's somehow not culturally acceptable to shame women. It's a double standard. When a woman does something it's always 'not her fault'.



    Feminists taught normal women to hate men and to behave like they are 10/10. This is a mainstream thing now in the west. What will happen is: they will get old, catch all kind of Tinder diseases (doctors don't know what to call any more) and end up childless, ugly, truly alone.



    BTW I'm not a 'truecel' and rejected women making advances towards me. But I can see where they're coming from. It's a gyno-centric society, a woman is always 'right' and protected by all government institutions.


    If you create a society that throws young men overboard there's only one possible outcome:








    There's definitely a problem now with social cohesion in the western world.


    My prediction is that most men will stop bothering with women. They will have more meaningful relationships with robots.


    If a guy wearing a motion-capture suit makes more money in a day than all cam-girls in a week you know you have a problem:





    (I know this is some right wing nut who made his dog do the roman salute, don't care about his politics)

    I'm far from a feminist but the above is bullshyte tbh. Women have been shamed and vilified since the dawn of time and it still happens on a daily basis, from the story of Eve leading Adam astray to the Paddy Jackson rape trial. That they are somehow less than men is ingrained in the psyche and culture of billions of people the world over.

    Your posts are the rantings of someone weak and pathetic. Someone that is looking to lay the blame for their own social impotence at the door of those that rejected them. For all the good things the internet has brought about, it has become an petri dish for the rejects of society to cultivate their own special brand of piteous musings. What ever helps you sleep at night though.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm far from a feminist but the above is bullshyte tbh. Women have been shamed and vilified since the dawn of time and it still happens on a daily basis, from the story of Eve leading Adam astray to the Paddy Jackson rape trial. That they are somehow less than men is ingrained in the psyche and culture of billions of people the world over.

    TBF you're a lot closer to being a modern feminist considering the examples, and tone of the above paragraph. Would you be one of the "IbelieveHer" crowd?

    It's a rehash of the idea that women have had zero (or, at a stretch, minimal) responsibility for how society developed, and the way that gender roles were encouraged... ignoring the influence that women had on keeping other women within the boundaries of those worlds. Or the conditioning of men by women through those gender roles (mothers, nuns, teachers, nobles, etc) to maintain the traditional system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    I'm far from a feminist but the above is bullshyte tbh. Women have been shamed and vilified since the dawn of time and it still happens on a daily basis, from the story of Eve leading Adam astray to the Paddy Jackson rape trial. That they are somehow less than men is ingrained in the psyche and culture of billions of people the world over.

    Your posts are the rantings of someone weak and pathetic. Someone that is looking to lay the blame for their own social impotence at the door of those that rejected them. For all the good things the internet has brought about, it has become an petri dish for the rejects of society to cultivate their own special brand of piteous musings. What ever helps you sleep at night though.

    That is nonsense and well you know it, both genders are at the mercy of radicals for different reasons since the dawn of time and even evident today....feminist radicals are even worse in my opinion to young women with the completely mixed message that they are just like men on the one hand and need to be treated like infants on the other.

    As putrid some parts of the internet are for "encouraging" young men to feel they are better off on their own...at least it hasn't been embraced by mainstream culture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    TBF you're a lot closer to being a modern feminist considering the examples, and tone of the above paragraph. Would you be one of the "IbelieveHer" crowd?

    It's a rehash of the idea that women have had zero (or, at a stretch, minimal) responsibility for how society developed, and the way that gender roles were encouraged... ignoring the influence that women had on keeping other women within the boundaries of those worlds. Or the conditioning of men by women through those gender roles (mothers, nuns, teachers, nobles, etc) to maintain the traditional system.

    What's a member of the I believe her crowd supposed to mean? Are you doubting that Weinstein and many others did not sexually abuse countless women?

    I also never said anything about women being above reproach. There is and has been wrongs committed by women to women. For example, the likes of cosmopolitan and other publications place immense pressure on looking a certain way while at the same time extolling the virtue of being yourself. The likes of love island and other shows that are geared at predominantly younger women are as exploitative as anything that's ever been on tv yet tens of thousands of young men and women are happy to apply to whore themselves out for their 15 minutes.

    There are wrongs across the board with both men and women but if you asked me if I thought women were more sinned against than sinner then I'd have to say the former.


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    What's a member of the I believe her crowd supposed to mean? Are you doubting that Weinstein and many others did not sexually abuse countless women?

    Now you definitely are sounding like a modern feminist since you've further expanded the point (rather than deal with the initial comment). You referred to the Paddy Jackson Rape trial, where my reference to Ibelieveher does make sense...
    I also never said anything about women being above reproach. <snip>.

    There are wrongs across the board with both men and women but if you asked me if I thought women were more sinned against than sinner then I'd have to say the former.

    Exactly, whereas I wouldn't make such a statement. How do you classify or estimate the wrongs committed? and who would be responsible with any degree of accuracy and fairness? Is being marginalised in the law, worse than being conscripted and used as cannon fodder? Where is the line drawn? Depending on culture and class, many ways in which women were discriminated against, men were also discriminated against... but that's something is often ignored in the rush to highlight perceived injustices towards women. (like womens suffrage vs universal suffrage)

    As I said, the tone of your post was suggestive because it sought to emphasize women as being victims within society and throughout history. If you had made the point that people have been shamed and vilified since the dawn of time, then, I wouldn't be querying your 'I'm far from a feminist' statement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    Can we get back on topic and away from all this bollocks?

    Who the f**k is Chad?

    Also I’ve noticed success rates dramatically increase if you have a side phone to use to compliment your main phone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Passenger



    Also I’ve noticed success rates dramatically increase if you have a side phone to use to compliment your main phone

    What do you mean?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    If online dating isn't the best, where's the best place to find a really hot, conservative/right leaning girl who's had a max of two sexual partners, preferably 1 or zero?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    If online dating isn't the best, where's the best place to find a really hot, conservative/right leaning girl who's had a max of two sexual partners, preferably 1 or zero?

    Your local nunnery, or your dreams.


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    If online dating isn't the best, where's the best place to find a really hot, conservative/right leaning girl who's had a max of two sexual partners, preferably 1 or zero?

    Probably China. :D (I'm not joking either)

    Traditional dating is still very viable there, and you'll still encounter many gorgeous women with very limited experience. You'd need to learn some Mandarin though... relying on English limits the selection too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    I met current and last gf on tinder. Very handy when used right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    I met current and last gf on tinder. Very handy when used right


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭iptba


    This might be of interest to somebody
    18-year-old woman creates fake Tinder profile as a man after insisting that it's 'EASY PEASY' for guys to find matches online - but she's shocked when the experiment turns out to be a failure

    YouTuber Alexander Grace teamed up with his friend Sada for the social experiment and gave her photos of himself to use
    She created a fake Tinder profile and expected to get a ton of matches
    But she only got a lot when she swiped indiscriminately; when she was more discerning, she got just a couple
    She was also frustrated that women didn't reply to her messages
    However, most of her messages began with generic 'hi' and 'how are you' lines

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8370535/Woman-creates-fake-Tinder-profile-man-assumes-easy-dates.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Passenger wrote: »
    What do you mean?






    I got two phones, one for the plug and one for the load
    I got two phones, one for the bitches and one for the dough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I just watched those gundam videos, absolutely hilarious! I used tinder for a about a month, god about hundred matches and hundred others who had liked me, but you had to pay to see who had liked you. That video made a very good point , internet dating is easy if you're prepared to drop your standards. Depends what you want. Obviously it's far better if you are in a big city. His point about the very hot guys is so accurate, my mate would fit that description and he could be on several dates a day if he wanted to be , again in Dublin....

    I was doing a lot of swiping though admittedly around lockdown, as bored beyond belief at times....


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