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Seems like a good deal on firewood....

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  • #302
    Villan11
    Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭Villan11


    Just looked through page and no mention if they are kiln dried or air dried?
    mph_96 wrote: »
    Hi All,

    Has anyone used Surefirewood?? They appear to have a base in Northern Ireland. Prices seem good but Im wondering about the quality.

    https://surefirewood.ie/collections/premium-kiln-dried-firewood-bulk-bags-and-pallets-delivered-to-your-door/products/premium-hardwood-1?variant=31150935703606

    Thanks

    M


  • #303
    naughto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭naughto


    Villan11 wrote: »
    Just looked through page and no mention if they are kiln dried or air dried?

    https://surefirewood.ie/blogs/useful-articles/why-kiln-dried


  • #304
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    So yesterday marked the first day of the year the house temp didn't drop under 17 degrees so the heating didn't need to turn on.

    I hdd a look at the leftover logs and I reckon I've still got around 20% of the pallet left. With only the odd weekend fire needed till October I'd say that was a great bargain.


  • #305
    savemejebus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,570 ✭✭✭savemejebus


    Moisture meters in LIDL this Thursday for anyone looking.


  • #306
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Grumpypants wrote: »
    So yesterday marked the first day of the year the house temp didn't drop under 17 degrees so the heating didn't need to turn on.

    I hdd a look at the leftover logs and I reckon I've still got around 20% of the pallet left. With only the odd weekend fire needed till October I'd say that was a great bargain.

    What quantity did you start out with? Had 1.2m3 myself and now down to the last 20 logs so will get another 4 fires out of it. Think I'll have to buy a few of the net bags in a DIY shop as April does have the odd very cold night when a fire would be nice.

    Must admit Im going to miss the fire in the summer. Its not just about the heat for me, I could stare at logs burning away for hours on end. Its almost hypnotic.


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  • #307
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    My 600kg of Ash finished last week so ended up ordering the 450kg of Beech from co-op superstore which will probably cover me for the first month or two of next winter now.


  • #308
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    My 600kg of Ash finished last week so ended up ordering the 450kg of Beech from co-op superstore which will probably cover me for the first month or two of next winter now.

    Lot dearer isn’t it


  • #309
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    What quantity did you start out with? Had 1.2m3 myself and now down to the last 20 logs so will get another 4 fires out of it. Think I'll have to buy a few of the net bags in a DIY shop as April does have the odd very cold night when a fire would be nice.

    Must admit Im going to miss the fire in the summer. Its not just about the heat for me, I could stare at logs burning away for hours on end. Its almost hypnotic.

    I got the co-op deal think it was a 1.2m pallette for €199. Will get a few more fires going as I like them. Might get a fire pit for a summer evening and chuck a few in it.


  • #310
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Lot dearer isn’t it

    Yea but still decent value imo, the other one was crazy cheap. Will be watching their site for a similar deal next winter.


  • #311
    naughto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭naughto


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Yea but still decent value imo, the other one was crazy cheap. Will be watching their site for a similar deal next winter.

    I cant see them having free delivery over 200 euro on it again for firewood.great if they do


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  • #312
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    naughto wrote: »
    I cant see them having free delivery over 200 euro on it again for firewood.great if they do

    I actually think it was a mistake considering how quick they changed it at the time.


  • #313
    naughto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭naughto


    Ian nearly out of the crate I got has anyone bought recently that's good value


  • #314
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    How often and for how long were ye all having fires going?

    Ive a Charnwood Cive 2b boiler stove and ive burned easily twice what was in those crates.


  • #315
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    TheTorment wrote: »
    How often and for how long were ye all having fires going?

    Ive a Charnwood Cive 2b boiler stove and ive burned easily twice what was in those crates.

    Only light ours in the evenings. If the weather is mild will just stick the oil on for a couple of hours so some weeks it might not get lit at all. If we were lighting it every day I doubt a crate would last even 2 months.


  • #316
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Only light ours in the evenings. If the weather is mild will just stick the oil on for a couple of hours so some weeks it might not get lit at all. If we were lighting it every day I doubt a crate would last even 2 months.

    We're the opposite. Turn the rads on in the evening to heat the house and water. Light the fire in the sitting room early afternoon or when someone is home. We burn turf mainly and supplement with some coal.


  • #317
    shanec1928
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    josephsoap wrote: »
    http://www.mcmorrowhaulage.ie/fire-wood/

    What do you make of this offer €95 for a teleporter bucket of hardwood timber ?

    Did you go ahead with this in the end.


  • #318
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Is €199.95 a decent price for 450kgs of Kiln dried Beech?


  • #319
    gally74
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭gally74


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Is €199.95 a decent price for 450kgs of Kiln dried Beech?

    where di u see that deal, seems pretty good, but with oil so low, it might fall lower


  • #320
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Hard to tell vic as measuring by weight is a direct relation of how much moisture is in the wood. Im supposing its sold as 20% or under? What is the cubic metre volume of it? iirc the best deal last winter on here was 199 for 1.2m3 with free delivery from the Co-op but they ended the free delivery within a couple of weeks, it might have been a pricing mistake. That was ash/birch though, not beech.


  • #321
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    gally74 wrote: »
    where di u see that deal, seems pretty good, but with oil so low, it might fall lower

    Tjomahony


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  • #322
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Hard to tell vic as measuring by weight is a direct relation of how much moisture is in the wood. Im supposing its sold as 20% or under? What is the cubic metre volume of it? iirc the best deal last winter on here was 199 for 1.2m3 with free delivery from the Co-op but they ended the free delivery within a couple of weeks, it might have been a pricing mistake. That was ash/birch though, not beech.


    No measurement on the pallet given unfortunately


    https://tjomahony.ie/88beech450-1.html


  • #323
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah its hard to tell from a picture what it is.I think firewood is always best compared by cubic volume instead of weight. It *might* be 1.2m3 and if it is that is a great price. If its only 1m3 then its not as good value. Is delivery included though?


  • #324
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Not sure on delivery


  • #325
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    well if delivery is included then it would be a great price especially if it was 1.2m3, Id be tempted at that myself. It might be 40 or 50 euro extra though, their website doesnt seem to have details.


  • #326
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    well if delivery is included then it would be a great price especially if it was 1.2m3, Id be tempted at that myself. It might be 40 or 50 euro extra though, their website doesnt seem to have details.

    It's 49 euro delivery so the same weight crate of beech from coop superstore for 239 works out about a tenner less.


  • #327
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah had thought that delivery might be on top of the headline price.

    Does the price of firewood ever drop in the summer at all or just remain stable year round. Id be tempted to stock up now for the winter but only if it came down a bit, otherwise theres no point really as Im not planning on using the stove again till October.


  • #328
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    yeah had thought that delivery might be on top of the headline price.

    Does the price of firewood ever drop in the summer at all or just remain stable year round. Id be tempted to stock up now for the winter but only if it came down a bit, otherwise theres no point really as Im not planning on using the stove again till October.

    Same as that, hasn't been lit in about three weeks now and likely won't be again until then. I find most places just don't have wood in stock this time of year and the places that specialise close up for the summer.


  • #329
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah probably not that many stocks about anyway. Had hoped to see an offer or two on to tempt me but anything Ive seen is more or less the same cost as it was in winter. The poor log store out the back is looking sad and empty though so I might change my mind yet.


  • #330
    81r2
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭81r2


    vicwatson wrote: »
    No measurement on the pallet given unfortunately


    https://tjomahony.ie/88beech450-1.html

    Hello wood burning folk, great thread.

    Had a look at the website https://tjomahony.ie/88beech450-1.html, and their delivery cost covers two pallets, €39 I think. However on increasing the order to three pallet loads, delivery was free. So three pallets delivered €599.86

    With oil so cheap, will wood prices fall? People only using oil as main heat source?


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  • #331
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    It's 49 euro delivery so the same weight crate of beech from coop superstore for 239 works out about a tenner less.


    Actually, it seems like delivery charge is depending on location, as it's coming up as €20.00 delivery for me, so €219.99, better value again.


  • #332
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Or for Ash -

    https://www.stakelums.ie/product/450kgs-crate-of-kiln-dried-ash-firewood-logs/ and €30.00 delivery - also, €220.00

    Is Beech or Ash better? or both much the same?


  • #333
    duffysfarm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    I would have thought beech would be better - heavier type wood which should burn better. Ash is brilliant firewood but would burn quicker than beech
    vicwatson wrote: »
    Or for Ash -

    https://www.stakelums.ie/product/450kgs-crate-of-kiln-dried-ash-firewood-logs/ and €30.00 delivery - also, €220.00

    Is Beech or Ash better? or both much the same?


  • #334
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    duffysfarm wrote: »
    I would have thought beech would be better - heavier type wood which should burn better. Ash is brilliant firewood but would burn quicker than beech

    Yes, beech has a higher calorific value. But won't burn wet like ash.
    https://www.bordersfirewood.co.uk/know-your-wood/


  • #335
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Hard to tell vic as measuring by weight is a direct relation of how much moisture is in the wood. Im supposing its sold as 20% or under? What is the cubic metre volume of it? iirc the best deal last winter on here was 199 for 1.2m3 with free delivery from the Co-op but they ended the free delivery within a couple of weeks, it might have been a pricing mistake. That was ash/birch though, not beech.

    I found out it’s 1140mm (W) x 840 (D) which to me works out less than 1cbm


  • #336
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    And is the crate a metre high? If so that works out at 0.95 cubic metres so a little less than a full cubic metre. Im going to hold out for 1.2m3 for around the 220 mark I got it for last winter. I know I need at least that for lighting 2 good fires weekly throughout the heating season. If I had of only had 1m3 I would have ran out of wood in about early February whereas the 1.2m3 did me till mid March or so.


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  • #337
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Yes I think it is. Not such a good deal.


  • #338
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    And is the crate a metre high? If so that works out at 0.95 cubic metres so a little less than a full cubic metre. Im going to hold out for 1.2m3 for around the 220 mark I got it for last winter. I know I need at least that for lighting 2 good fires weekly throughout the heating season. If I had of only had 1m3 I would have ran out of wood in about early February whereas the 1.2m3 did me till mid March or so.


    Thoughts on this - apparently its softwood = larch, spruce and pine - all under 20% moisture guaranteed, price includes delivery



    https://www.cotterbrosfirewood.ie/product-page/double-bulk-bag-pallet


  • #339
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    On the face of it it seems like a good deal, especially as it is free nationwide delivery. They say each bulk bag is 1m3 so 2m3 is a lot of wood that would get most people through the winter.

    But the thing is its softwood so it is not as energy dense as hardwood and will burn quicker so you need to use more of it to get the same heat. As to how much more i dont know because Ive never burnt softwood, Ive seen it mentioned here that it is around 30% less efficient than hardwood, going by that 2m3 of softwood would be the same heat output as about 1.3m3 of hardwood. There is also more a bit more handling in it, you'd need to bring inside more wood to burn for every fire than if burning hardwood.

    I suppose one way to find out if you're happy with softwood is to buy a couple of bags of logs from a petrol station and test them yourself- invariably these are softwood, it may not say it on the bag but they are. Another consideration is if softwood is really sparky and burns with those little explosions every now and again. I wouldnt fancy that myself and if it is the case then Id be annoyed at having to burn it for the whole winter and would likely regret buying it in bulk.

    Another option was found by poster 2forjoy over on the Firewood Buy/Sell thread in the Forestry forum a few days ago. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057476913
    Company is in Northern Ireland but offer free nationwide delivery. The best value for money/quantity seems to be their Super Jumbo bag which measures 1mx1.2mx1.8m=2.1cm3. This is loosely stacked so assuming about 30% of the bag is just fresh air space it would work out about 1.4m3 when hand stacked in your shed/log store. However when it was posted last week it was on their website for 235 and looking just now the price has gone up to 250 so thats taken the shine off it somewhat for me anyway.
    https://surefirewood.ie/collections/premium-kiln-dried-firewood-bulk-bags-and-pallets-delivered-to-your-door/products/premium-hardwood-1?variant=31642997063734

    Personally Im going to hold off for now and just keep an eye on what offers are about. I had thought it being summer we might see some discounted bargains like 1.2m3 for 160-180 but that hasnt matieralised. I suppose if companies have stock left over from last winter they just let it sit there for sale next winter rather than discounting to clear it. If they have the storage space then theres no need for them to discount, its all the same for them at the end of the day.


  • #340
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    It’s showing as €235 for the jumbo bag

    Oh and it’s says the cbm stacked is 1.2cbm


  • #341
    starbaby2003
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003


    Getting to that time of year again ... Anyone know of any good deals from places that deliver to Dublin ?


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  • #342
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Try monahans.ie


  • #343
    herrdood
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭herrdood


    Hi,


    How does this compare with what's around?
    [IMG]https://www.boards.ie/images/products/product/beech_crates (1)-3b0e395960845f01e5a282ff690ec7cb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/images/products/product/beech_crates (1)-3b0e395960845f01e5a282ff690ec7cb.jpg[/IMG]






    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Fuel--Heating/Solid-Fuel/Home-Heating-Fuel/Premium-Beech-Log-25cm-Crate-18m3-850kg-0051925


  • #344
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    2 cbm with Monahans €350, above is 1.8 at the same price


  • #345
    griffdaddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    Picked up some of the recycled ecologs at the end of last season and found the heat out of them was brilliant. From what I remember they were cheaper than usual firewood as well. I'll probably look to pick them again this year to be honest, they're easier to get a hold of and no need for a big storage area because they're so widely available.


  • #346
    SouthWesterly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,923 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    griffdaddy wrote: »
    Picked up some of the recycled ecologs at the end of last season and found the heat out of them was brilliant. From what I remember they were cheaper than usual firewood as well. I'll probably look to pick them again this year to be honest, they're easier to get a hold of and no need for a big storage area because they're so widely available.

    Where did you get them?

    Cant see myself using many. We have turf and it burns well with loads of heat.


  • #347
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    griffdaddy wrote: »
    Picked up some of the recycled ecologs at the end of last season and found the heat out of them was brilliant. From what I remember they were cheaper than usual firewood as well. I'll probably look to pick them again this year to be honest, they're easier to get a hold of and no need for a big storage area because they're so widely available.

    Are they the sawdust ones?

    That's what I use in my stove, I usually get a half pallet (500kg) delivered but my usual guy hasn't replied to me yet..... anyone know of someone who delivers these to Dublin?


  • #348
    herrdood
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭herrdood


    herrdood wrote: »
    Hi,


    How does this compare with what's around?
    [IMG]https://www.boards.ie/images/products/product/beech_crates (1)-3b0e395960845f01e5a282ff690ec7cb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/images/products/product/beech_crates (1)-3b0e395960845f01e5a282ff690ec7cb.jpg[/IMG]






    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Fuel--Heating/Solid-Fuel/Home-Heating-Fuel/Premium-Beech-Log-25cm-Crate-18m3-850kg-0051925
    vicwatson wrote: »
    2 cbm with Monahans €350, above is 1.8 at the same price
    .


    I looked again at the co-op one. Using the dims provided I calculate the pallet as 1.672 M3 not 1.8 M3 as is claimed on the website. Anybody know the dims of a Monahans pallet?


  • #349
    griffdaddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Are they the sawdust ones?

    That's what I use in my stove, I usually get a half pallet (500kg) delivered but my usual guy hasn't replied to me yet..... anyone know of someone who delivers these to Dublin?

    Yeah it's the sawdust ones that expand when you burn them. The moisture level in them is less than 10%. I picked up a few bags in KCR builders providers back in February or March, not sure they're back in yet though. I've definitely seen them in Woodies or B&Q as well, probably much dearer there though. I actually had to limit how many I was putting in at a time because they were burning so hot. (I know you have to limit logs as well but I'm talking using one or one and a half maximum with these.)


  • #350
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    herrdood wrote: »
    .


    I looked again at the co-op one. Using the dims provided I calculate the pallet as 1.672 M3 not 1.8 M3 as is claimed on the website. Anybody know the dims of a Monahans pallet?

    It’s on their website


  • #351
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Bought from one of the recommendations here last year. See to be about the same price this year (https://www.logsforsale.ie/price-list) €230 for 1.2m birch.


    One thing - last year I could store in a garage, but wont be able to this year. If I'm storing outside (I'll keep wrapped and the water off them) I presume the moisture level will rise? Will it be much of a loss? Or will I be ok?


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