Championship and Covid

Loafing Oaf · 25-04-2020 12:17am

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

That is the ideal scenario in my view. However, nobody knows what will be permitted regarding social distancing and crowds. All the government has confirmed is that crowds > 5000 are not allowed in summer. However, they have yet to announce what capacities will be allowed. If they announced no gatherings of more than 500, I would envisage that automatically puts an end to club competitions too. Or if they announced that larger crowds are allowed but social distancing has to be adhered to, it is difficult to see how they could have a club championship in summer.

But the fundamental problem for GAA is not with the crowds, it's with the games themselves.
Here's another “expert” talking out of his arse:
Sport Ireland chief executive John Treacy has warned that it could be a long time before contact sports resume in Ireland due to the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

The only reason the Bundesliga might be resuming next month is they have the capacity to test all the players and anyone else who comes into close contact with them. Can't see the GAA managing that any time soon...

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 12:22am

Maybe let the players decide if they want to risk the physical contact so? I’d reckon 99% would be back on the training fields next Tuesday night if they got a sniff of a go ahead.

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-04-2020 12:25am

Zetor19 wrote: »

Another “expert” talking out of his arse, these fruitcakes are really enjoying their 5 minutes of fame . The ordinary joe is starting to wake up the last few days, we will have a championship this year.

Wow, just ****ing wow, that "expert" actually specialises in infectious disease, and you are straight from the Michael Gove school of too many experts.

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-04-2020 12:28am

Zetor19 wrote: »

Maybe let the players decide if they want to risk the physical contact so? I’d reckon 99% would be back on the training fields next Tuesday night if they got a sniff of a go ahead.

You mean a bit like allowing lads to decide whether they should be allowed go to the pub for a pint or not? You are spectacularly missing the point.

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 12:31am

Why so? The players know the risks and tough luck if someone gets it, they are the ones we want to see and if they are happy and want to do it let them on. You think we will have no sport for 4 or 5 years while some scientists in a lab in Germany prick around with rats ?

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-04-2020 12:39am

Zetor19 wrote: »

Why so? The players know the risks and tough luck if someone gets it, they are the ones we want to see and if they are happy and want to do it let them on. You think we will have no sport for 4 or 5 years while some scientists in a lab in Germany prick around with rats ?

Ah here, you just dont get it, its about limiting the contagion, why the **** do you think the restrictions are in place? I mean are you taking the piss??

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 12:44am

Do you think we will wait around years for a vaccine before any sport happens again ? Like fcuk we will in fact underage sport should be going ahead now.

BannerBoy1 · 25-04-2020 12:48am

Zetor19 wrote: »

in fact underage sport should be going ahead now.

Troll

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 12:50am

I mean after the 5th of May obviously.

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-04-2020 12:52am

Zetor19 wrote: »

Do you think we will wait around years for a vaccine before any sport happens again ? Like fcuk we will in fact underage sport should be going ahead now.

Unfortunately while we have people like you in the community, the longer it is going to be until life returns to normal. The sooner the people like you accept the seriousness of the situation then the sooner we may be able to emerge from it. re underage sport, can i ask you a simple question and lets face it, it needs to be simple. If social distancing guidelines are to remain in place, as they are for the foreseeable future, how does that allow any kind of contact sports to be played? Im genuinely intrigued by your thought process on this

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-04-2020 12:54am

Zetor19 wrote: »

I mean after the 5th of May obviously.

Why do you think that date means anything? :rolleyes:

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 1:01am

We ignore this over hyped flu and get back to normal . Why what do you think Is going to happen let’s say next March, what will change? The way Leo Simon and tony are going people will die of old age before the virus works through the population . Not to mention the state of the economy by then.

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-04-2020 1:09am

Zetor19 wrote: »

We ignore this over hyped flu and get back to normal . Why what do you think Is going to happen let’s say next March, what will change? The way Leo Simon and tony are going people will die of old age before the virus works through the population . Not to mention the state of the economy by then.

1. you want to ignore the biggest public health threat in a century?? 2. ignoring it will not bring us back to normal, it will lead to absolute disaster, 3. i dont know what will happen next March, nobody does. Get it into your head, there aint going to be any serious GAA this side of xmas

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 1:12am

I honestly think by mid June we won’t even be talking about this flu and the games will get going quickly when they do get the go ahead. Club first then county. Maybe that will be the system going forward. It makes sense really.

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-04-2020 1:13am

Zetor19 wrote: »

I honestly think by mid June we won’t even be talking about this flu and the games will get going quickly when they do get the go ahead. Club first then county. Maybe that will be the system going forward. It makes sense really.

You are taking the piss now, i get it, fair play, you roped me in anyway

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 1:18am

I’m not taking the piss nor am I pissed. Just not hanging on to every word of tony Holohan and his team of “scientists “. My opinion of bull**** is as believable as them lads bull**** of closing down the country and ruining all aspects of society.

RicketyCricket · 25-04-2020 1:23am

Zetor19 wrote:

Iâ€™m not taking the piss nor am I pissed. Just not hanging on to every word of tony Holohan and his team of â€œscientists â€œ. My opinion of bull**** is as believable as them lads bull**** of closing down the country and ruining all aspects of society.

Well, for the love of all that is sacred, get out there and protest it man, get the word out and and people will follow, you're wasting your time preaching here. To hell with the people dying, you have a bigger and better agenda. Inject the Domestos into you as soon as you can. And the best of luck.

Del Boy · 25-04-2020 1:24am

It's just an opinion but I can't see there being a Championship this year. And a best case scenario is matches behind closed doors.

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 1:27am

Let’s see who’s right come December, I will be in Croker for the all Ireland and 82000 others, and the lockdown merchants can stay at home and watch on tv unless the fear of the virus jumping through the tv and getting them is too much.

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 1:31am

By the way this is the same Holohan who as overseen many fiascos in this country’s joke health system and now thinks he’s the Taoiseach.

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-04-2020 1:39am

Del Boy wrote: »

It's just an opinion but I can't see there being a Championship this year. And a best case scenario is matches behind closed doors.

Will people just stop throwing out this "behind closed doors" line.

It's a fantasy.

Behind closed doors is impossible in an amateur sport like the GAA.

It's not about simply preventing the spread by not allowing people into the stands, you have to prevent spread among the players, the officials, the people that are needed to make a game go ahead, and their families and work colleagues etc.

Del Boy · 25-04-2020 1:43am

Zetor19 wrote: »

Let’s see who’s right come December, I will be in Croker for the all Ireland and 82000 others, and the lockdown merchants can stay at home and watch on tv unless the fear of the virus jumping through the tv and getting them is too much.

Dark before 5pm in December.....they'd be training indoors or taking time off work? Hurling in the mud in December.....they'd be as well to cancel it.

Some sort of sudden death short Championship would be better if possible by end of Oct at latest.

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-04-2020 1:44am

Zetor19 wrote: »

Let’s see who’s right come December, I will be in Croker for the all Ireland and 82000 others, and the lockdown merchants can stay at home and watch on tv unless the fear of the virus jumping through the tv and getting them is too much.

You actually wont.

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 2:00am

Weather in winter makes no difference to Croker pitch or any of the sand based pitches that are in every county now. Floodlights in every county . Players be delighted to be back.

Del Boy · 25-04-2020 2:07am

Zetor19 wrote: »

Weather in winter makes no difference to Croker pitch or any of the sand based pitches that are in every county now. Floodlights in every county . Players be delighted to be back.

For large counties the training is rotated around and not every pitch would be sand.......I know you being optimistic but you also have to realistic. There would be major challenges to a winter Championship.

I don't think there'll be 82000 going to any match this year either.

Some sort of sudden death Championship in Autumn would be better quality IMO.

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 2:11am

What you mean sudden death? Straight knock out is what I mean . Be fantastic entertainment all on the line the one day.

Del Boy · 25-04-2020 2:27am

Zetor19 wrote: »

What you mean sudden death? Straight knock out is what I mean . Be fantastic entertainment all on the line the one day.

Exactly. Straight knock out. But winter won't work. Maybe for Dublin and eastern counties but not for the counties in West.

Non-stop rain in Limerick, Clare, Galway etc. Just can't see it going into winter months. And I doubt players would want it either.

25-04-2020 8:17am

Zetor19 wrote: »

We ignore this over hyped flu and get back to normal . Why what do you think Is going to happen let’s say next March, what will change? The way Leo Simon and tony are going people will die of old age before the virus works through the population . Not to mention the state of the economy by then.

Are you one of these people that are finding it hard to realise that this virus is a total change to our society . Are you one of these people that think we will here it on the news that everything is back to normal I would like to have seen the state of the country if they did not take the precautions they did worse fool you are to think other wise.

25-04-2020 8:23am

It’s probably somewhere in between all the “it’s just a flu” and “we should all plunge off the nearest bridge because we’re doomed”. Just listen to the experts and do as you’re bid. If no sport this year helps then we should all live with that.

mountgomery burns · 25-04-2020 8:46am

The most successful troll I've ever seen.

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 10:50am

How will it be any different next year? Forget about a vaccine it might never happen . Are people going to live like this for 2 years? 5? 10? We may as well be fcuking dead. Get back out there and take our chances , here imunitty is our only hope.

MadYaker · 25-04-2020 10:53am

Zetor19 wrote: »

How will it be any different next year? Forget about a vaccine it might never happen . Are people going to live like this for 2 years? 5? 10? We may as well be fcuking dead. Get back out there and take our chances , here imunitty is our only hope.

There’s already multiple vaccines in the works so it will happen. Probably not until next year at the earliest though so not much use to the GAA this season.

Has anyone even asked the players if they’d be comfortable playing with this virus still in the community? Do none of them have underlying conditions? You can’t socially distance in football or hurling.

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 11:05am

No guarantee whatsoever that a vaccine will work and where will little old Ireland be on the waiting list if there is one. Rock bottom with the spineless leaders we have. 99% of players at all levels and all ages are mad for action to resume . History will show this ridiculous over reaction to be one of the biggest mistakes ever made by mankind.

25-04-2020 11:11am

Zetor19 wrote: »

How will it be any different next year? Forget about a vaccine it might never happen . Are people going to live like this for 2 years? 5? 10? We may as well be fcuking dead. Get back out there and take our chances , here imunitty is our only hope.

May as well be dead

You’d swear you were being shipped off to the front lines of a war or something, not sit on your hole and watch telly. Grow up.

MadYaker · 25-04-2020 11:23am

Zetor19 wrote: »

No guarantee whatsoever that a vaccine will work and where will little old Ireland be on the waiting list if there is one. Rock bottom with the spineless leaders we have. 99% of players at all levels and all ages are mad for action to resume . History will show this ridiculous over reaction to be one of the biggest mistakes ever made by mankind.

Are you a scientist? Because they seem to think it’ll work. Did you not see what happened in Italy, Spain and New York?

Has anyone actually asked inter county players if they’d be happy playing and risking infection?

25-04-2020 11:24am

MadYaker wrote: »

Are you a scientist? Because they seem to think it’ll work. Did you not see what happened in Italy, Spain and New York?

Has anyone actually asked inter county players if they’d be happy playing and risking infection?

Or the families they go home to, or the work colleagues they see. People seem to think that the virus will just keep itself confined to the stadium.

Jizique · 25-04-2020 11:29am

MadYaker wrote: »

Are you a scientist? Because they seem to think it’ll work. Did you not see what happened in Italy, Spain and New York?

Has anyone actually asked inter county players if they’d be happy playing and risking infection?

How would they be risking infection playing any more than they would just existing?
What happened to the elderly and infirm in those areas has little to do with the average GAA player

gormdubhgorm · 25-04-2020 11:33am

Zetor19 wrote: »

How will it be any different next year? Forget about a vaccine it might never happen . Are people going to live like this for 2 years? 5? 10? We may as well be fcuking dead. Get back out there and take our chances , here imunitty is our only hope.

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

May as well be dead

You’d swear you were being shipped off to the front lines of a war or something, not sit on your hole and watch telly. Grow up.

This makes me laugh instead of whinging about it you should appreciate the mobility you had/have. I have seen many people in the wheelchair area in CP brought thier by there carers/attendants etc. In some cases it is the only outlet such people have from thier struggles from day to day life.

I have seen Joanne O'Riordan (journalist) at a few matches in CP.

She happens to have Tetra-amelia syndrome - which means she is missing all four limbs. Does she wish she was dead? Can you imagine how her mobility is restricted in her normal day to day life? Can you imagine how her mobility is now restricted as a result of Covid19?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1238915963875209222

People have to adapt to the new reality, much like in the same manner those who are infirm/disabled adapt to a world predominately designed by and for able bodied people. Stop whinging and pull in the same direction, not against everyone and the whole situation will be much better.

If you can't just shut down for a few months or so, there is something lacking in your resolve. What will you be like as you get older and are not able to get around as you once were?

Del Boy · 25-04-2020 11:41am

Jizique wrote: »

How would they be risking infection playing any more than they would just existing?
What happened to the elderly and infirm in those areas has little to do with the average GAA player

All touching the one ball. Hurler would be safer given they wear helmets....hard to touch face.

Sharing changing rooms etc

MadYaker · 25-04-2020 11:52am

It’s impossible to stay 2 metres away from other players in a football game. Some of the players surely have asthma or other conditions. That’s to say nothing of whoever they live with.

MadYaker · 25-04-2020 11:54am

Jizique wrote: »

How would they be risking infection playing any more than they would just existing?
What happened to the elderly and infirm in those areas has little to do with the average GAA player

Because they are increasing the number of close interactions they have with other people? It wasn’t just the elderly and the infirm unfortunately.

Del Boy · 25-04-2020 11:57am

Players would surely have to be tested regularly if the Championship goes ahead at some stage.

I still can't see it this year. Unfortunately.

gormdubhgorm · 25-04-2020 11:59am

MadYaker wrote: »

It’s impossible to stay 2 metres away from other players in a football game. Some of the players surely have asthma or other conditions. That’s to say nothing of whoever they live with.

Yeah those blanket defences are going to have way more holes in it.
The GAA is not like Pro sports where they HAVE to try and play the games for the sake of thier livelihoods. Most in the GAA have jobs elsewhere. I think it actually puts the GAA at an advantage. As many soccer clubs are in danger of going under because of this crisis. But because of the volunteer nature of the GAA it puts them in far less precarious position.

I'd say it will be well into 2021 before everything starts to be settled and back to normal at this stage.

Del Boy · 25-04-2020 12:04pm

Paddy Power might do a virtual Championship .....tis the only Championship we'll see this year.

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 12:13pm

If we can’t play in October this year why do ye think we playing March next year? Let those who want to play and want to go to games do that and those who want to stay locked up stay locked up. Nobody will be forced to go anywhere.

25-04-2020 12:16pm

Zetor19 wrote: »

If we can’t play in October this year why do ye think we playing March next year? Let those who want to play and want to go to games do that and those who want to stay locked up stay locked up. Nobody will be forced to go anywhere.

If you’re not even able see the flaw in that plan then there is no hope for you at all.

Del Boy · 25-04-2020 12:46pm

Zetor19 wrote: »

If we can’t play in October this year why do ye think we playing March next year? Let those who want to play and want to go to games do that and those who want to stay locked up stay locked up. Nobody will be forced to go anywhere.

That's how many feel but it's a public health matter so Mr Holohan and Mr Harris will set the rules.

kksaints · 25-04-2020 12:51pm

The Clare hurling Captain doesn't believe there will be a championship until a vaccine is available. Sounds like he is willing to put player's family safety over playing.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/i-dont-think-there-will-be-a-gaa-championship-this-year-until-theres-a-vaccine-clare-hurling-captain-conlon-39135993.html

Del Boy · 25-04-2020 12:58pm

kksaints wrote: »

The Clare hurling Captain doesn't believe there will be a championship until a vaccine is available. Sounds like he is willing to put player's family safety over playing.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/i-dont-think-there-will-be-a-gaa-championship-this-year-until-theres-a-vaccine-clare-hurling-captain-conlon-39135993.html

Most players would agree I'd say........many young players still live at home with parents.....others have sick family members. It's not gotta happen this year.

And who'd blame them. No pay and lots of risk....

It's gotta be a strange summer.

Zetor19 · 25-04-2020 1:02pm

Fine lock every young lad in the country in their sitting rooms for the summer so watching all the soccer leagues resume on tv, how many won’t bother playing again? Especially when Leo Simon and tony won’t give the go ahead til summer 2030.

Championship and Covid

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