The decline of TG4

leoXX · 10-07-2020 6:07pm #1

Have management at TG4 become lazy and completely given up on new talent? One time it was an excellent place to foster new talent, Síle Seoige got a show just out of secondary School called Hollywood Anocht, which saw her regularly flying to LA to meet the stars. Hector's travel shows were another innovative creation. The channel launched the careers of The Seoige sisters, Hector, Dahi O'Si, Eoghan McDermott. But where are the next generation of irish speaking presenters? Have you seen the state of TG4s current schedule? Little House on the prairie, the west wing, the weakest link and the Gilmore Girls, shows that are in no way relevant to TG4s remit of promoting the Irish language.

10-07-2020 6:10pm

It launched Eoghan McDermott?..

Close it down..

Rodney Bathgate · 10-07-2020 6:11pm

Does it still have the talented weather ladies?

mick087 · 10-07-2020 6:13pm

It always shows a classic western on Friday night.

Its an important channel leave it be.
But i agree it neeeds a shake up.

Rodney Bathgate · 10-07-2020 6:16pm

Fiona Ní Fhlaithearta

Montage of Feck · 10-07-2020 6:18pm

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Fiona Ní Fhlaithearta

Did a quick google image search out of curiousity....:eek:

https://www.independent.ie/incoming/e2185/31170790.ece/AUTOCROP/w1240h700/MM.jpg

leoXX · 10-07-2020 6:18pm

mick087 wrote: »

It always shows a classic western on Friday night.

Its an important channel leave it be.
But i agree it neeeds a shake up.

Of course there's no harm in showing an odd classic, but isn't showing murder she wrote 7 days a week Overkill?

Rodney Bathgate · 10-07-2020 6:19pm

leoXX wrote: »

Of course there's no harm in showing an odd classic, but isn't showing murder she wrote 7 days a week Overkill?

That depends. Is it the same episode each day of the week?

Bio Mech · 10-07-2020 6:20pm

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Does it still have the talented weather ladies?

That’s how it got the nickname TnaGee

10-07-2020 6:26pm

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Fiona Ní Fhlaithearta

Fiona is lovely..

mick087 · 10-07-2020 6:35pm

Tonights line up.
I cannot belive they showing the Irish RM i remember it ehrn i was a kid hated it then hate it now.
The western looks promising at 20.30.

Gilmore Girls (R,S)
18:05

An Aimsir Láithreach
18:57

Nuacht TG4
19:00

Damhsa na hÉigeandála
19:30

The Bravados
20:30

An Aimsir Láithreach
22:20

By the Balls
22:25

Siar sna 60idí
00:05

The Irish RM (R,S)
00:35

Muahahaha · 10-07-2020 7:03pm

They used to show Breaking Bad back in the day too

Montage of Feck · 10-07-2020 7:10pm

They also showed Oz and The Wire before that.

gogo · 10-07-2020 7:52pm

Montage of Feck wrote: »

They also showed Oz and The Wire before that.

We used to call Thursday nights, tele night, nah can’t go out mate, it’s Thursday night, tele night ....

Survivor followed by Oz...

Josh. · 10-07-2020 7:58pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

They used to show Breaking Bad back in the day too

I preferred it when it was TG3

Some Yoke · 10-07-2020 8:02pm

Garraí glas is on daily, excellent program about growing your own veg and fruit, making preserves, foraging, making meals with wild plants, old Irish traditions and travelling all around the west

I Am Nobody · 10-07-2020 8:47pm

I'm surprised people still watch TG4.

Chancer3001 · 10-07-2020 8:52pm

Has survivor on it.

The greatest show in television history.

It also does class documentaries still. Especially on sport.

And it shows the minor Gaelic and hurling and the club games

Also one of the presenters of rte school from home during covid is yerone who played Aifric for years.

Trigger Happy · 10-07-2020 8:55pm

If there is demand for tg4 then make it subscription so those who want it pay for it. But no, they leave it to the licence and tax payers to foot the bill for this white elephant .

How Soon Is Now · 10-07-2020 9:12pm

Its grand for a bit of GAA that other channels are not showing other then that meh! At the end of the day its built around basically a dead language so its not gonna be everyone's Cupan Tae.

Capt'n Midnight · 10-07-2020 10:06pm

mick087 wrote: »

It always shows a classic western on Friday night.

Its an important channel leave it be.
But i agree it neeeds a shake up.

Last one was Cowboys & Aliens

Capt'n Midnight · 10-07-2020 10:08pm

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Does it still have the talented weather ladies?

Catch up here
https://www.tg4.ie/en/player/categories/news-stories/?series=An%20Aimsir%20L%C3%A1ithreach&genre=Cursai%20Reatha&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt8ncz8vD6gIVB7TtCh3w4A8HEAAYASAAEgLef_D_BwE

JohnnyFlash · 10-07-2020 10:09pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Its grand for a bit of GAA that other channels are not showing other then that meh! At the end of the day its built around basically a dead language so its not gonna be everyone's Cupan Tae.

I wouldn't focus too much on learning the native language until you've got a working knowledge of English to be honest.

Harry Palmr · 10-07-2020 10:29pm

Where do they get the money? RTE or a direct grant?

How Soon Is Now · 10-07-2020 10:39pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I wouldn't focus too much on learning the native language until you've got a working knowledge of English to be honest.

Good man well done!

DrSerious3 · 10-07-2020 11:02pm

I love TG4 but they do seem to have stepped away from great Irish documentaries. I loved Ceart agus Coir, Maru, anything about the revolutionary years. You could be guaranteed one good doc a week a couple of years ago. I dont see them anymore, I wonder is it an editorial decision?

leoXX · 10-07-2020 11:03pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Where do they get the money? RTE or a direct grant?

They have 3 sources of income, the government give them an annual grant of about 33 million, RTE provide them their news service for free and they also take in a few euro in advertising & sponsorship

11-07-2020 12:50am

I'd say it's the rise of tbe internet which has partly contributed to the demise of TG4.

Not only the additional on-demand choice of programming, but TG4 was once the home of the x-rated French movie. it was the only channel on Irish TV that wasn't afraid to show a tit, excuse my language.

jimmyohallogan · 11-07-2020 1:02am

tg4 is class. long may it live.

ILoveYourVibes · 11-07-2020 1:52am

leoXX wrote: »

Have management at TG4 become lazy and completely given up on new talent? One time it was an excellent place to foster new talent, Síle Seoige got a show just out of secondary School called Hollywood Anocht, which saw her regularly flying to LA to meet the stars. Hector's travel shows were another innovative creation. The channel launched the careers of The Seoige sisters, Hector, Dahi O'Si, Eoghan McDermott. But where are the next generation of irish speaking presenters? Have you seen the state of TG4s current schedule? Little House on the prairie, the west wing, the weakest link and the Gilmore Girls, shows that are in no way relevant to TG4s remit of promoting the Irish language.

I mean its daniel o donnell hula hooping....its not even in irish..

In fairness this made me laugh...but for all the wrong reasons

Who would watch this?? It's Daniel O' Donnell working out with his wife.

ILoveYourVibes · 11-07-2020 1:55am

jimmyohallogan wrote: »

tg4 is class. long may it live.

I don't want it to die either .....but i need to cut off at least one arm

I can't believe this is on the tv.

Daniel Sa Bhaile....what were these people thinking?

ILoveYourVibes · 11-07-2020 2:01am

Trigger Happy wrote: »

If there is demand for tg4 then make it subscription so those who want it pay for it. But no, they leave it to the licence and tax payers to foot the bill for this white elephant .

1. Daniel O Donnell needs to go.

2. Ros na Run is ****e

3. I think Irish speakers have a right to hear and view things in Irish. And i think the tax payers is obligated to help them with that.

4 Crisis eile was actually good.

5. Apart from Crisis eile i wouldnt watch Tg4 and any time i have switched it on its like watching the twilight zone. Maybe i got unlucky.

I am just being blunt here.

Maybe its all they can do with such poor funding etc.

newaccount2017 · 11-07-2020 2:01am

TG4 is way better than RTE or TV3. That's been well known for a long time. Way more creative and they do all that with a tiny budget. Yeah, they do show English language programs too but who cares, it's a channel. It's sole purpose is not to "teach" people Irish. It's more geared towards the Gaeltacht populations. Even the English language programs (and French etc.) are well chosen- Survivor, The Wire, Oz, etc. Even Ros na Rún is very good. The fact that there isn't a high turnover of actors makes it way better and the storylines refer back to things that happened years ago. Like in a real village. Compared to Fair City or Eastenders where there is basically a brand new cast every few years. I'd say you just never watched anything on TG4 and are looking to create a post with a bit of controversy. Oohhh!

ILoveYourVibes · 11-07-2020 2:06am

newaccount2017 wrote: »

TG4 is way better than RTE or TV3. That's been well known for a long time. Way more creative and they do all that with a tiny budget. Yeah, they do show English language programs too but who cares, it's a channel. It's sole purpose is not to "teach" people Irish. It's more geared towards the Gaeltacht populations. Even the English language programs (and French etc.) are well chosen- Survivor, The Wire, Oz, etc. The fact that there isn't a high turnover of actors makes it way better and the storylines refer back to things that happened years ago. Like in a real village. Compared to Fair City or Eastenders where there is basically a brand new cast every few years. I'd say you just never watched anything on TG4 and are looking to create a post with a bit of controversy. Oohhh!

Are they obsessed with Daniel O'Donnell?

If so ...what is WRONG with the gaeltacht???

Even Ros na Rún is very good.

The emperors new clothes ..no its not ...its terrible ..the writing is terrible ..the acting is terrible.

Im just being honest.

Crisis Eile was pretty funny ....maybe it just cost too much money.

newaccount2017 · 11-07-2020 2:13am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

If so ...what is WRONG with the gaeltacht???

The emperors new clothes ..no its not ...its terrible ..the writing is terrible ..the acting is terrible.

Go to bed man. Getting riled up over TG4 at 2am.

jimmycrackcorm · 11-07-2020 2:14am

Thaks to TG4, I got to watch Borgen. I hope they do more foreign shows like this.

jimmycrackcorm · 11-07-2020 2:15am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Are they obsessed with Daniel O'Donnell?

If so ...what is WRONG with the gaeltacht???

.

DoD might not be to your taste, but he is to many people. I guess you'd have us just watch Eastenders and get depressed.

jimmyohallogan · 11-07-2020 2:26am

pinch of schizophrenic salt to every thread, you never can know who is a bot trying to subversively take down what you didnt know you hold dear x

ILoveYourVibes · 11-07-2020 2:47am

newaccount2017 wrote: »

Go to bed man. Getting riled up over TG4 at 2am.

Yeah you are right ..not worth caring about.

ILoveYourVibes · 11-07-2020 2:53am

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Where do they get the money? RTE or a direct grant?

Direct grant nothing to do with rte.

Directly from the exchequer. Some coming from revenue. It gets about 30 million per year in state aid.

Its a shoestring to be fair.

The Irish radio stations seem to do a much better job.

feargale · 11-07-2020 3:02am

I Am Nobody wrote: »

I'm surprised people still watch TG4.

Why so?

ILoveYourVibes · 11-07-2020 3:05am

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

DoD might not be to your taste, but he is to many people. I guess you'd have us just watch Eastenders and get depressed.

I don't watch that either.

feargale · 11-07-2020 3:08am

Trigger Happy wrote: »

If there is demand for tg4 then make it subscription so those who want it pay for it. But no, they leave it to the licence and tax payers to foot the bill for this white elephant .

Do you object to government funding for sport, cultural pursuits such as ballet and drama, piss-ups under the guise of "festivals attracting tourists" ( from 3 miles down the road after the local pub has shut while the "festival" enjoys an exemption)? Or do you only approve of funding for your pet projects and hold that those you dislike should be left out in the cold?

ILoveYourVibes · 11-07-2020 3:09am

I'd say it's the rise of tbe internet which has partly contributed to the demise of TG4.

Not only the additional on-demand choice of programming, but TG4 was once the home of the x-rated French movie. it was the only channel on Irish TV that wasn't afraid to show a tit, excuse my language.

I think it needs to move online.

They will find money from all the yanks and brits who want to learn irish. It will be annoying as **** but it will bring in money.

ILoveYourVibes · 11-07-2020 3:24am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I wouldn't focus too much on learning the native language until you've got a working knowledge of English to be honest.

He's English is perfect. Its just informal. Which is actually a higher level of language often.

It's called disglossia. The presence of formal language and informal language in the same country.

Basically all language was colloquial at one point even that spoken by the ruling class. Walk down the road you wouldn't be understood so people went about standardizing it. Neutralizing it etc.

People realized this neutral language was acceptable by all. But it wasn't the way people really sounded or spoke.

Informal language is much less regular grammatically and much more creative.
Formal language is much less personal.

Informal: I donʼt believe that the results are accurate.
Formal: The results are not believed to be accurate.

But formal language is just a tool its not the 'ideal'.

Riddle101 · 11-07-2020 4:50am

I remember pronouncing the station as Tina G (TnaG) and TG Ceathair back in the day. But they just call it TG4 now. I remember as a kid I used to pray that the cartoons would be in English as I was lousy at Irish and didn't like reading the subtitles.

leoXX · 11-07-2020 6:46am

newaccount2017 wrote: »

TG4 is way better than RTE or TV3. That's been well known for a long time. Way more creative and they do all that with a tiny budget

What are they currently doing for the 13/22 market ? 10, 20 years, they'll have had a bilingual pop or movie show on at teatime, nowadays they're showing episodes of the weakest link from 2005.

Potential-Monke · 11-07-2020 7:49am

The only time I ever watched TG4 is when RTE weren't showing Limerick in the hurling. Not a massive fan of sport in general, but I do like a good game of hurling, and really only interested enough to watch the big matches or Limerick playing, more for company for the father than anything. Does be a good family event with the 2 parents actually. Anyway, I can't speak/understand Irish aside from basic stuff to have passed a test 20 odd years ago, so it's extra annoying that the matches are in Irish. Sometimes, we watch it via Sky because of the delay, turn the tv audio down and listen to it on the radio. The delay via radio usually matches the delay with Sky, whereas if you were to watch it on Saorview the action is slightly ahead of the commentary on the radio.

Trigger Happy · 11-07-2020 8:21am

feargale wrote: »

Do you object to government funding for sport, cultural pursuits such as ballet and drama, piss-ups under the guise of "festivals attracting tourists" ( from 3 miles down the road after the local pub has shut while the "festival" enjoys an exemption)? Or do you only approve of funding for your pet projects and hold that those you dislike should be left out in the cold?

I just object to wasted money.

Alvin and the chipmunks is on now. Pure irish culture there.

11-07-2020 10:15am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I mean its daniel o donnell hula hooping....its not even in irish..

Who would watch this?? It's Daniel O' Donnell working out with his wife.

I bet this one watches it in bed with the husband

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbLf8uJnBV8

Jimmy Garlic · 11-07-2020 10:25am

I can’t even pick up RTE, tg4, virgin where I live because the digital signal is so pathetically weak.

The decline of TG4

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