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Formula 1 2019 - Round 7 - Canada

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  • #152
    TheDoctor
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    Seb is going home


  • #153
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Vettel nailed it just now in his message - punished for not driving into the wall.

    What a great message that sends out about drivers welfare.


  • #154
    Thrashssacre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    Is he seriously not gonna take his spot on the podium? Regardless of you’re opinion of the penalty that’s a bit classless... going up to the race director no doubt to moan.


  • #155
    skipper_G
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    Go Seb, tell them shove their podium procedure up their hole


  • #156
    Itssoeasy
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    Get a proper hair cut for Christ sake Lewis. You look 2000 era Axl Rose.


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  • #157
    devnull
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    Is anyone else reading the BBC Coverage:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/48312356

    Seriously what race are they watching, is it because he's German?


  • #158
    walshb
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    Vettel’s always been a spoilt petulant sore loser..


  • #159
    cherryghost
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    devnull wrote: »
    Is anyone else reading the BBC Coverage:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/48312356

    Seriously what race are they watching, is it because he's German?

    I wish I hadn't seen any of that


  • #160
    flazio
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    Will they delay the podium until Seb turns up?


  • #161
    tipp_tipp_tipp
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    Definite penalty. Another mistake by Vettel, not good enough. Great win by Lewis, probably one of his best.


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  • #162
    Pissartist
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    Thrashssacre wrote: »
    Is he seriously not gonna take his spot on the podium? Regardless of you’re opinion of the penalty that’s a bit classless... going up to the race director no doubt to moan.

    100% he'd regret it too


  • #163
    murphyebass
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    Who got fastest lap ?


  • #164
    Itssoeasy
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    Thrashssacre wrote: »
    Is he seriously not gonna take his spot on the podium? Regardless of you’re opinion of the penalty that’s a bit classless... going up to the race director no doubt to moan.
    Doesn’t look like it. Vettel isn’t an idiot so I’m sure he knows the rules. It might not look great but I doubt he’d do something that would get himself punished further.


  • #165
    Autosport
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    Look I’m no Vettel fan but I don’t think he deserved a penalty but he also shouldn’t act like a child either


  • #166
    cherryghost
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    tipp_tipp_tipp wrote: »
    Definite penalty. Another mistake by Vettel, not good enough. Great win by Lewis, probably one of his best.

    But where is he supposed to go??? It's a narrow track, one small area he was out on, was fighting the car still when he got back on track.


  • #167
    gooch2k9
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    murphyebass wrote: »
    Who got fastest lap ?

    Bottas.


  • #168
    H3llR4iser
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    Jameson Greasy Kelp wrote: »
    Apart from the penalty, it lost him the race.

    Impossible to put on a 5 seconds gap on Hamilton in like 10 laps. Lewis was marginally faster, even. The only way would've been if he spun or crashed.


  • #169
    flazio
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    murphyebass wrote: »
    Who got fastest lap ?

    LeClerc


  • #170
    murphyebass
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    Pissartist wrote: »
    100% he'd regret it too

    No he won’t he’s an arrogant person to say the least.


  • #171
    Itssoeasy
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    tipp_tipp_tipp wrote: »
    Definite penalty. Another mistake by Vettel, not good enough. Great win by Lewis, probably one of his best.
    How is it one of his best ?


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  • #172
    TheDoctor
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    murphyebass wrote: »
    Who got fastest lap ?

    Bottas


  • #173
    HighLine
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    Absolute right move by Vettel in boycotting the podium. And contrary to the silly comment above, he was well measured and respectful on his final radio message. Kudos to him.


  • #174
    This is it
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    murphyebass wrote: »
    Who got fastest lap ?

    Botas I think.

    Hamilton saying Vettel shoud not rejoin on the racing line, he had no control of where he joined, you could see him locking the wheel to avoid the wall.


  • #175
    Itssoeasy
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    Vettel getting a great reaction from the crowd.


  • #176
    devnull
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    cherryghost wrote: »
    But where is he supposed to go??? It's a narrow track, one small area he was out on, was fighting the car still when he got back on track.

    The wall, drivers who don't risk injury and instead punished for doing so it seems now, can't believe I'm saying that as it's not a very positive safety culture for a dangerous sport to have if drivers feel that if they try and avoid a crash they might be punished for it.

    Do you reckon it would be the same if Charlie Whiting was still alive, he was always pro-racing.


  • #177
    walshb
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    He’s a disgrace...and should be punished for this petulance.


  • #178
    Faugheen
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    I haven’t seen this live, just a very fuzzy clip on Twitter.

    But from what I can see Vettel drove back onto the track and had loads to play with, but he immediately tried to shut the door on Hamilton which nearly sent him into the wall.

    I’ll reserve full judgement until I’ve seen a clearer picture but that doesn’t seem too harsh to me. If anyone has a clear clip of it can you post it up?


  • #179
    d8491prj5boyvg
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    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Impossible to put on a 5 seconds gap on Hamilton in like 10 laps. Lewis was marginally faster, even. The only way would've been if he spun or crashed.

    A big ask, most definitely. But he lost a 3 second gap (at one stage after the penalty) that went right down to less than half a second. There may have been quicker engine modes, etc. that could have helped. At the very least go for it. But instead he sulked.


  • #180
    Spudman_20000
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    How tone deaf are Mercedes and Hamilton celebrating that "win"? God, the whole lot of them are as insufferable as this season.


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  • #181
    Itssoeasy
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    Vettel moved the no1 from Hamilton’s car.


  • #182
    TheDoctor
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    That was pretty funny to be fair


  • #183
    cherryghost
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    Haha Seb


  • #184
    This is it
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    Brilliant :D


  • #185
    Itssoeasy
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    walshb wrote: »
    He’s a disgrace...and should be punished for this petulance.
    Stop.


  • #186
    Charlie-Bravo
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    Brilliant by Seb.

    -. . ...- . .-. / --. --- -. -. .- / --. .. ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / ..- .--.



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  • #187
    Autosport
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    Childish behaviour from the baby


  • #188
    gooch2k9
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    Awkward...


  • #189
    Thrashssacre
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    Podium interviews should be interesting.


  • #190
    skipper_G
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    The onboard shot from Vettel shows how much oversteer he was fighting. He was not in control of the car, driving on grass will do that.


  • #191
    TheDoctor
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    Love that they haven’t moved the signs back


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  • #192
    Autosport
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    If it was the opposite way the abuse Lewis would get would be brutal


  • #193
    flazio
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    Thrashssacre wrote: »
    Podium interviews should be interesting.

    Not done on the podium anymore. Martin did them in Parc Ferme


  • #194
    H3llR4iser
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    walshb wrote: »
    Vettel’s always been a spoilt petulant sore loser..
    Thrashssacre wrote: »
    Is he seriously not gonna take his spot on the podium? Regardless of you’re opinion of the penalty that’s a bit classless... going up to the race director no doubt to moan.

    murphyebass wrote: »
    No he won’t he’s an arrogant person to say the least.


    Oh FFS, we always complain drivers have "no character", and when one shows some, he's a "petulant loser", just because it's the "wrong one" showing he's not a "yes man".

    Also, Lewins and Mercedes going to cry to the stewards for a penalty are no problem...
    skipper_G wrote: »
    Go Seb, tell them shove their podium procedure up their hole
    HighLine wrote: »
    Absolute right move by Vettel in boycotting the podium. And contrary to the silly comment above, he was well measured and respectful on his final radio message. Kudos to him.

    Precisely. The whole system of non-appealable penalties while teams are allowed to protest / point out "things" and apply pressure it the highest magnitude of idiocy.


  • #195
    numbnutz
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    We have just witnessed the vanillafication of formula one.Seb had nowhere to go...funny though moving the 1st place to his spot...


  • #196
    antodeco
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    A better choice would have been to tell Seb to let Lewis pass and give him the place, and then let them race until the end.


  • #197
    Itssoeasy
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    Autosport wrote: »
    If it was the opposite way the abuse Lewis would get would be brutal
    No I wouldn’t.


  • #198
    gooch2k9
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    Why not penalise after the race if they felt it necessary?

    Regardless of your opinion on the penalty there's enough there to warrant an appeal about it.


  • #199
    Autosport
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    No I wouldn’t.

    Maybe not you but others yes


  • #200
    Tom Mann Centuria
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    Rule is unsafe return to track, doesn't matter if Vettel meant it or not. Nothing in the rule about it having to be deliberate. Penalty seemed fair enough imo

    Neither driver involved is my cup of tea, poor, petulant losers and winners, and I'd have liked if they both failed to finish.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • #201
    Thrashssacre
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    antodeco wrote: »
    A better choice would have been to tell Seb to let Lewis pass and give him the place, and then let them race until the end.

    Actually not a bad shout would have kept the bite in the race.


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