Underdogs 2018

homerjay2005 · 05-10-2018 9:41am

Glebee wrote: »

I know its not a fashion thread but the state of Galvin the other night with the cap. Anyone I know that would turn up for training like that would be laughed out of the field..

if they were a 4 times all ireland winning player and footballer of the year, i doubt many would say a word to them :P

TCDStudent1 · 05-10-2018 9:50am

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

It looks like a major weakness in this concept is that it's run during club championship season. Having only 17 out of the 30 odd players down for a 3 day bootcamp really defeats the purpose of having such a camp imho. Again it's hard to see how good these lads really are based on the few clips we see but you would have to say it didn't look great last night!

Definitely a problem. They let the lad from Laois go because of his attendance. However, you can't argue with his logic - his club always come first. He should be admired for that but the format of the show means he is punished for it.

Don't think the standard is high. A local Galway paper highlighted there were 2 Galway lads trying to make it. One of them has been featured on the show so far while the other hasn't. I don't think the other lad has even played senior for his club. Then again, maybe it is a Donaghy type story where he has just been off playing other sports.....

I dont get why the Kilkenny guy doesnt have a club to train with? Surely, if he loves football that much, he would just join one of the junior clubs in Kilkenny or join a club outside the county. Not sure we are being told the full story there.

LoughNeagh2017 · 05-10-2018 4:33pm

I think weak counties in football/hurling should join a neighbouring county league, it means they would have the experience of playing against better players, what is the use in winning 5 Derry hurling championships in a row playing against teams full of below average players?

CK22 · 05-10-2018 9:04pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Definitely a problem. They let the lad from Laois go because of his attendance. However, you can't argue with his logic - his club always come first. He should be admired for that but the format of the show means he is punished for it.

Don't think the standard is high. A local Galway paper highlighted there were 2 Galway lads trying to make it. One of them has been featured on the show so far while the other hasn't. I don't think the other lad has even played senior for his club. Then again, maybe it is a Donaghy type story where he has just been off playing other sports.....

I dont get why the Kilkenny guy doesnt have a club to train with? Surely, if he loves football that much, he would just join one of the junior clubs in Kilkenny or join a club outside the county. Not sure we are being told the full story there.

Problem with Kilkenny football is that it doesn’t exist really. Club championship is wrapped up after 4 games before the hurling leagues even start. Usually it’s wrapped up by February. Kilkenny CB have no interest and only try to get it done ASAP. Probably feck all clubs anyway. Think he would be better off even training with a club in like Laois or Carlow. Fair play to the man anyway, it really seems to mean a lot to him, and he’s very humble about it.

An Ciarraioch · 05-10-2018 9:58pm

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

I think weak counties in football/hurling should join a neighbouring county league, it means they would have the experience of playing against better players, what is the use in winning 5 Derry hurling championships in a row playing against teams full of below average players?

Didn't Mount Leinster Rangers play in a Kilkenny league at one point before they won the Leinster club? Yes, it would be an idea for Kilkenny clubs to play in Carlow or Wexford competitions as a trial after running off their own championship, much like Kilmoyley won a Munster hurling league against Cork and Limerick teams.

seligehgit · 06-10-2018 9:59am

It really is a cracking show,very enjoyable.

That centre of excellence down in Killarney is very impressive.

Loved the insights of Eamonn Ryan and Mickey Ned O Sullivan.Valerie and Paul seem to have a real gra for their old mentor.Hard to believe there were up on 20,000 in Tralee when the underdogs defeated the kingdom.It will be interesting what kind of a crowd turn up in Parnell Park.

Dubs can't win,if in the unlikely scenario they field a strong team they'll tank the underdogs.If they field an O Byrne type third team it will hardly entice a big crowd and won't be as big a thrill for these players.

I do wonder are there any Kieran Donaghy or Pearse O Neill like players who are standing out that could make it at inter county level.

Galvin made mention of Trevor Murtagh being one of their most important players to Eamonn Ryan,don't recall any real backstory to him?

Others mentioned in that conversation were a Stephen Harte from Dublin and a Nigel.

I see Niall Canning is now consigned to warming up the bench.

The Ronan O Neill and Derrytresk backstory was interesting but young Stephen from Kilkenny is heartwarming.

I can see Richie facing the chop soon,he's really not convincing in terms of demonstrating his undying commitment to the cause.

Galvin having to admonish him for having his mobile phone out in training!Two months down the road there seems to be little change in his physique.

Loving the dynamic between the three roghnoiri.

LoughNeagh2017 · 06-10-2018 12:57pm

Here is Sean Brady getting sent off in the championship final that was mentioned, he is actually playing in the final again today.

https://youtu.be/RlOhsYPzEL0?t=1548

benji79 · 06-10-2018 6:56pm

Loved seeing the Eamon Ryan bits. Can see why he had such success with Cork. Even 2 mins on tv and he’d have you hanging on his every word

benji79 · 06-10-2018 7:30pm

Richie is a bluffer! He wouldn’t last a week with me if I was picking

LoughNeagh2017 · 06-10-2018 7:41pm

Bradys team lost the Derry Intermediate final today

zetecescort · 06-10-2018 8:33pm

benji79 wrote: »

Richie is a bluffer! He wouldn’t last a week with me if I was picking

must be short of scoring forwards if they are keeping him on

CK22 · 12-10-2018 3:37pm

I’m going to the Dublin game next week. After that performance last night I’m a bit doubtful if there’s any point.

Ceist_Beag · 12-10-2018 3:55pm

Certainly looked a bit of a mess there at the end of that game, hard to see how a team that gets beat out the gate by clubs (even one intermediate club) can even go out on the same pitch as the Dubs.

OldMrBrennan83 · 12-10-2018 4:44pm

I thought that game was this week and I'd miss it. Happy days.

seligehgit · 12-10-2018 11:41pm

CK22 wrote: »

I’m going to the Dublin game next week. After that performance last night I’m a bit doubtful if there’s any point.

I'd be very fearful for them even with a possibly O Byrne Cup like team as opposition.

Hope there's a full house in Parnell Park,they deserve it.

Coillte_Bhoy · 13-10-2018 1:18am

seligehgit wrote: »

I'd be very fearful for them even with a possibly O Byrne Cup like team as opposition.

Hope there's a full house in Parnell Park,they deserve it.

Why? btw did Silke really say that Kerry, Tyronr or Galway didnt take a dent of Dublin the last few years?

seligehgit · 13-10-2018 10:33am

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Why? btw did Silke really say that Kerry, Tyronr or Galway didnt take a dent of Dublin the last few years?

I'm just thinking of that Kevin Costner film Field of Dreams.

Don't know of too many participants in any sport who don't dream of playing on front of the big crowd against a giant of the game.

Possible simple oversight by Silke or maybe not.

Dots1982 · 13-10-2018 11:52am

I may be proved wrong but I don’t see why Dublin will pick their third team.

Their squad will almost be fully available, they have a new jersey out and this is a chance to sell/promote it. Fenton or Kilkenny playing in it to a big tv audience is very different to the buzz created by a Ciaran Reddin playing in it.

theoneeyedman · 13-10-2018 12:04pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Galvin made mention of Trevor Murtagh being one of their most important players to Eamonn Ryan,don't recall any real backstory to him?

I know Trevor, a real good lad. He is typical of a lot of lads I'd guess, wasn't selected for any development panels when 14 or 15 and worked away diligently with his club. His story in many ways shows the problem with this development squad model, if you're not in it early, you generally won't get in later. Has been an excellent club player at Intermediate in Roscommon for several years. Has always been a worker on and off the field and there are players with less to offer on the current Roscommon panel to be honest. Is a second cousin of the Murtagh brothers who play for Roscommon.
Unfortunately for Trevor he hurt his ankle in that game shown on Thursday (about 4/5 weeks ago) and is really struggling to be fit for next week's game.

LoughNeagh2017 · 13-10-2018 4:41pm

All-Ireland medals are actually not that nice, that Munster medal was better looking.

benji79 · 13-10-2018 7:51pm

To be fair to Galvin he comes across as an excellent coach, really seems to break it down and actually explain to lads why to do something a particular way

wazzer1 · 13-10-2018 9:55pm

Lad from Round Towers scored 4 goals in the Dublin IFC semi final today. Impressive stuff!

Gael85 · 13-10-2018 10:08pm

Dots1982 wrote: »

I may be proved wrong but I don’t see why Dublin will pick their third team.

Their squad will almost be fully available, they have a new jersey out and this is a chance to sell/promote it. Fenton or Kilkenny playing in it to a big tv audience is very different to the buzz created by a Ciaran Reddin playing in it.

A lot of Dublin lads still involved with club championship and league playoffs. Players that played in AI final might not be allowed to play under the inter county training ban rule?

Always_Running · 17-10-2018 4:46pm

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/underdogs-diary-meet-the-panel-set-to-take-on-dublin-1.3665696?

Boom__Boom · 17-10-2018 7:36pm

Always_Running wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/underdogs-diary-meet-the-panel-set-to-take-on-dublin-1.3665696?

A fair chunk of the lads have already played junior intercounty, especially when you take out the lads from counties who don't take part in the junior competition.

Boom__Boom · 17-10-2018 7:38pm

benji79 wrote: »

To be fair to Galvin he comes across as an excellent coach, really seems to break it down and actually explain to lads why to do something a particular way

There were very positive reports of his coaching with St Brendans back when he was teaching. Anyone know if he is doing any GAA coaching (besides the Underdogs) at the moment?

Dots1982 · 18-10-2018 8:32pm

Dublin 12s on to win and handicap of 10. Heard Gavin is ringing around all the panel but not sure how many of them want to give their Friday night away to a exhibition game.

Gael85 · 18-10-2018 8:37pm

Dots1982 wrote: »

Dublin 12s on to win and handicap of 10. Heard Gavin is ringing around all the panel but not sure how many of them want to give their Friday night away to a exhibition game.

Gavin has been ringing u21 players

OldMrBrennan83 · 18-10-2018 8:39pm

Didn't think they'd be knocking him back. He doesn't seem like the type that would forget.

seligehgit · 18-10-2018 8:40pm

Gael85 wrote: »

Gavin has been ringing u21 players

No senior players?

Gael85 · 18-10-2018 8:45pm

seligehgit wrote: »

No senior players?

I wouldn't think there be many as won't be back training until January. Majority of team still involved club championship and league/relegation playoffs.

Dots1982 · 18-10-2018 8:47pm

Patww79 wrote: »

Didn't think they'd be knocking him back. He doesn't seem like the type that would forget.

Ah I was a bit surprised myself, I was also surprised he left it till today to call some of the biggest stars. Don’t think even Gavin cares about this.

seligehgit · 18-10-2018 11:16pm

Did the Dublin lad Ciaran get a starting spot?

Ditto Richie??

Yikes if he'd anywhere near the attitude of Niall he'd be an awesome player.

Ceist_Beag · 19-10-2018 8:39am

Don't think either start, bit surprised Ciaran didn't get a spot. From what I could put together of the names mentioned last night, this is the starting 15 now. Some numbers might be wrong here as they didn't mention the numbers for all players.

1. Blake Forkan
2. Ruairi Cunningham
3. Graham Heavey
4. DJ Murphy
5. Sam McCurdy
6. Sean Brady
7. Adam Wilson
8. Colm Flynn
9. Eamon Donoghue
10. Nigel Rabbitt
11. Fintan Ó Cuanaigh
12. Niall Canning
13. Gary O'Daly
14. Stephen Harford
15. Cormac Doohan

seligehgit · 19-10-2018 9:09am

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

Don't think either start, bit surprised Ciaran didn't get a spot. From what I could put together of the names mentioned last night, this is the starting 15 now. Some numbers might be wrong here as they didn't mention the numbers for all players.

1. Blake Forkan
2. Ruairi Cunningham
3. Graham Heavey
4. DJ Murphy
5. Sam McCurdy
6. Sean Brady
7. Adam Wilson
8. Colm Flynn
9. Eamon Donoghue
10. Nigel Rabbitt
11. Fintan Cuanaigh
12. Niall Canning
13. Gary O'Daly
14. Stephen Harford
15. Cormac Doohan

Cheers so Matt Gallagher's son Calum didn't make the first fifteen.

wiggy123 · 19-10-2018 1:00pm

they'll be hockeyed tonight sadly.. should played another county team-like outside the top 10 in the country...

Dickie9 · 19-10-2018 2:22pm

wiggy123 wrote: »

they'll be hockeyed tonight sadly.. should played another county team-like outside the top 10 in the country...

Handicap is +15 surely they'll cover that any news on the dubs team?

ProudDUB · 19-10-2018 2:45pm

wiggy123 wrote: »

they'll be hockeyed tonight sadly.. should played another county team-like outside the top 10 in the country...

Ah, I dunno. I reckon Mayo could still give them a daycint game. :P

Dots1982 · 19-10-2018 3:29pm

Dickie9 wrote: »

wiggy123 wrote: »

they'll be hockeyed tonight sadly.. should played another county team-like outside the top 10 in the country...

Handicap is +15 surely they'll cover that any news on the dubs team?

Really? was 10 yesterday

Dickie9 · 19-10-2018 4:15pm

Dots1982 wrote: »

Really? was 10 yesterday

Was +8 yesterday
shop around +13/+14 now

D dubs mus Ave strong team out

wiggy123 · 19-10-2018 5:04pm

still win.. sure underdogs not won a match yet--playing club teams +college teams..
maybe its all set up! for tv like!

Boom__Boom · 19-10-2018 5:14pm

1. Blake Forkan - Mayo - played in an All-Ireland junior final for Mayo
2. Ruairi Cunningham - Armagh
3. Graham Heavey - Dublin - played at full-back for the Dublin minor team
4. DJ Murphy - Kerry - won a junior All-Ireland medal with Kerry
5. Sam McCurdy - Dublin
6. Sean Brady - Derry - lined out for Derry in numerous national league matches
7. Adam Wilson - Dublin
8. Colm Flynn - Longford - played junior for Longford and was on their senior squad for several years but never made a championship appearance
9. Eamon Donoghue - Roscommon - played Junior with Roscommon
10. Nigel Rabbitt - Longford - played Junior with Longford
11. Fintan Cuanaigh - Galway - played under-21 and junior for Galway
12. Niall Canning - Sligo -
13. Gary O'Daly - Leitrim - played minor football for Roscommon
14. Stephen Harford - Dublin
15. Cormac Doohan - Mayo - played junior final for Mayo

7 out of the starting 15 played junior intercounty, which when you remember Dublin (4), Derry (1), Armagh (1) don't play in the Junior championship says a bit about the junior championship.

Blanco100 · 19-10-2018 6:46pm

Boom__Boom wrote: »

1. Blake Forkan - Mayo - played in an All-Ireland junior final for Mayo
2. Ruairi Cunningham - Armagh
3. Graham Heavey - Dublin - played at full-back for the Dublin minor team
4. DJ Murphy - Kerry - won a junior All-Ireland medal with Kerry
5. Sam McCurdy - Dublin
6. Sean Brady - Derry - lined out for Derry in numerous national league matches
7. Adam Wilson - Dublin
8. Colm Flynn - Longford - played junior for Longford and was on their senior squad for several years but never made a championship appearance
9. Eamon Donoghue - Roscommon - played Junior with Roscommon
10. Nigel Rabbitt - Longford - played Junior with Longford
11. Fintan Cuanaigh - Galway - played under-21 and junior for Galway
12. Niall Canning - Sligo -
13. Gary O'Daly - Leitrim - played minor football for Roscommon
14. Stephen Harford - Dublin
15. Cormac Doohan - Mayo - played junior final for Mayo

7 out of the starting 15 played junior intercounty, which when you remember Dublin (4), Derry (1), Armagh (1) don't play in the Junior championship says a bit about the junior championship.

would have thought yer man from moorfield would be in the starting 15. Only one Munster man

Ceist_Beag · 19-10-2018 6:49pm

Blanco100 wrote: »

would have thought yer man from moorfield would be in the starting 15. Only one Munster man

You obviously didn't watch it last night! They're in the county final Sunday so he opted out.

seligehgit · 19-10-2018 7:26pm

Looks like a very poor crowd.

Jonny Cooper is togging out.

kala85 · 19-10-2018 7:40pm

The new Dublin beach shorts are shocking

Dots1982 · 19-10-2018 7:41pm

Ah jaysis, Dublin team is crap, murchan and cooper the only starters from the allireland final. Fitzsimons there aswell. Good few lads I’ve never heard of. Kind of pointless.

OldMrBrennan83 · 19-10-2018 7:44pm

Paul Galvin is all set to go up and ask for a second helping of gruel.

seligehgit · 19-10-2018 7:50pm

Surprised Evan Comerford isn't between the sticks?

djemba djemba · 19-10-2018 7:52pm

Fair play to Dublin keeping the game interesting by not scoring

Underdogs 2018

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