The Greatest Achievement In GAA History

blanch152 · 17-06-2021 1:49pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Not completely true. No way is it comparable to Galway winning hurling in Connaught.

Dublin 2011 - 2020 is the development of a team and a system who adapted and changed. From the outside looking in many would forget / not know of the evolution of Dublin tactically both prior to 2011 and until 2020. They were not made overnight.

Why tactical evolution did Galway hurling bring??

The 2011 win was a smash and grab - Kerry got caught cold.

The 2013 win was a hard fought one - Dublin won by a point v Mayo. It could be argued Mayo made a balls of it.

The 2015 win was probably the best one as it involved beating Kerry on a dirty day. Plus the tactics of Dublin were changed as a result of the 2014 loss to Donegal the previous year. There was a clear shift and tactical development more patience and strategic thinking

The 2016 win v Mayo that Dublin really should have loss. Went to replay and all. Again you could argue Mayo blew it

The 2017 win Dublin's game management was superb the win v Tyrone in the SF and controlled win v Mayo in the final even if Dublin only won by a point

The 2018 win was the finest display of accuracy in a final I have ever seen v Tyrone. Look up the stats to see how many wides Dublin hit

The 2019 win was superb against Kerry. Jim Gavin used cluxton as a extra man out field when Dublin went a man down in the first game. To level it up. Leaving Tommy Walsh free to be picked up by Cluxton

Genius tactical stuff and analysed by a Kerryman. They know what they are talking about.

The 2020 win - I honestly don't really count a mickey mouse all Ireland win. Not proper at all. Aussie Rules lads were the main variables as a result of COVID19.

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As I said before Dublin have had to face many teams who are given second chances. Who would otherwise have been knocked out in other eras.

Dublin have revolutionised Gaelic Football, at a time when it was highly competitive and beaten off the greatest Mayo team ever, one of the best Kerry teams ever and the second-best Tyrone team.

Cluxton, as the Donaghy video points out, is an unbelievable leader, and possibly the greatest Gaelic footballer of all time. The six-in-a-row team fully deserve the title of GOAT.

Tombo2001 · 17-06-2021 3:21pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Dublin have revolutionised Gaelic Football, at a time when it was highly competitive and beaten off the greatest Mayo team ever, one of the best Kerry teams ever and the second-best Tyrone team.

Cluxton, as the Donaghy video points out, is an unbelievable leader, and possibly the greatest Gaelic footballer of all time. The six-in-a-row team fully deserve the title of GOAT.

The most influential maybe.

I'd be hard pushed to say Cluxton is a better Gaelic Footballer than Peter Canavan or Michael Murphy or Colin Cooper.

(He's only ever scored one point FFS ):D

Your points are well made - the Dublin team has revolutionised Gaelic Football, and is without a shadow of a doubt the greatest team of all time.

However, whether Dubs like it or not, the achievement has to be placed in the context of resources.

If hypothetically Carlow or Longford had been given the same management, the same training, the same coaching that Dublin players have had in the past decade - if Pat Gilroy and then Jim Gavin had been manager with the same personnel and training and the same revolutionary approach to the game that you describe = I'd be surprised if they'd even have won a provincial title.

And I'd even go further and say that there is an argument - in my view - that Monaghan, with a population of 66000 - has outperformed in relation to resources more than Dublin has, over the past decade.

MayoAreMagic · 17-06-2021 10:45pm

Kerry Footballers 1975-1986 who won 4 all Irelands in a row

Tombo2001 wrote: »

The most influential maybe.

I'd be hard pushed to say Cluxton is a better Gaelic Footballer than Peter Canavan or Michael Murphy or Colin Cooper.

(He's only ever scored one point FFS ):D

Your points are well made - the Dublin team has revolutionised Gaelic Football, and is without a shadow of a doubt the greatest team of all time.

However, whether Dubs like it or not, the achievement has to be placed in the context of resources.

If hypothetically Carlow or Longford had been given the same management, the same training, the same coaching that Dublin players have had in the past decade - if Pat Gilroy and then Jim Gavin had been manager with the same personnel and training and the same revolutionary approach to the game that you describe = I'd be surprised if they'd even have won a provincial title.

And I'd even go further and say that there is an argument - in my view - that Monaghan, with a population of 66000 - has outperformed in relation to resources more than Dublin has, over the past decade.

Im not a big believer in the cluxton spiel personally. I dont see how he is all that different to dean rock, ie a dead ball specialist who is a good player besides. How can one be a great free taker and the other classed as the best player ever? It doesnt really make sense.

Id agree re monaghan, they have outperformed everyone truth be told. There is probably an argument to be made that theirs in the blueprint we should all be following.

StupidLikeAFox · 17-06-2021 11:26pm

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Im not a big believer in the cluxton spiel personally. I dont see how he is all that different to dean rock, ie a dead ball specialist who is a good player besides. How can one be a great free taker and the other classed as the best player ever? It doesnt really make sense.

I agree. Cluxton is great with placed balls and set pieces. Dublin perfected kickout strategy but this is dependent on an accurate kicker, excellent movement of the outfield players and the coaching staff to coordinate - i think Cluxton gets a disproportionate amount of credit for this strategy

MayoAreMagic · 18-06-2021 8:38am

Kerry Footballers 1975-1986 who won 4 all Irelands in a row

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

I agree. Cluxton is great with placed balls and set pieces. Dublin perfected kickout strategy but this is dependent on an accurate kicker, excellent movement of the outfield players and the coaching staff to coordinate - i think Cluxton gets a disproportionate amount of credit for this strategy

Exactly right. Plus you have to factor in who he is kicking the ball to. He has a group of kickout winning machines in howard, McCarthy, fenton, kilkenny, and mccauley and flynn before that. Stick him in for carlow in a match against dublin and a load of those kicks probably get turned over, for no other reason than the target will simply be beaten to the ball over the ground.
It was similar with david clarke - a big majority of his woes actually came against kerry, where david moran was simply perfectly suited to his kickouts and nobody could match him. You would imagine if his teammates had the brains to simply surround moran - pre mark - this issue would have been resolved. But the media go with the goalkeeper stuff and we lap it up.

TITANIUM. · 18-06-2021 1:24pm

Kilkenny Hurlers 2000-2015 who won 4 all irelands in a row

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Exactly right. Plus you have to factor in who he is kicking the ball to. He has a group of kickout winning machines in howard, McCarthy, fenton, kilkenny, and mccauley and flynn before that. Stick him in for carlow in a match against dublin and a load of those kicks probably get turned over, for no other reason than the target will simply be beaten to the ball over the ground.
It was similar with david clarke - a big majority of his woes actually came against kerry, where david moran was simply perfectly suited to his kickouts and nobody could match him. You would imagine if his teammates had the brains to simply surround moran - pre mark - this issue would have been resolved. But the media go with the goalkeeper stuff and we lap it up.

True, the keeper always gets the blame for a TEAM kickout strategy going wrong.

Back on topic! About 20 odds years ago we were after winning a Minor county championship, I was driving back after playing a soccer match in North kerry and got a call, to see would I stop off on the way home to make up the numbers for a Junior B match, grand I said sure I can jump in at corner back or corner forward, somewhere with as little running as possible, as I was after playing 90 mins at midfield already. Baxtards started me at wing back (because I was young and itd be no bother to me apparently) Anyhow the other lads had a 5ft 4" Rotund full back who fancied himself as abit of a seamus moynihan, kept galloping up the pitch, quite a sight I can tell you. Our full forward was a big lanky lazy lad that wouldn't follow him. So we were playing away and there was a typical Junior B shamozial on our 45 and as the ball broke to me I noticed the portly figure of their FB rushing at me like a heifer left out of the shed in spring. If he's here! Whos marking Joe (our ff) i thought!. So with me not wanting to do any running, I drove the ball as high and as hard as I possibly could towards their goal, Hoping Joe would be underneath it. The ball took an age to drop and in the end it nearly came straight down, and landed over the bar on top of the roof of the net. Its the longest range point id ever seem and under the circumstances I believe it to be the single greatest achievement in GAA history.

19-06-2021 2:55am

TITANIUM. wrote: »

True, the keeper always gets the blame for a TEAM kickout strategy going wrong.

Back on topic! About 20 odds years ago we were after winning a Minor county championship, I was driving back after playing a soccer match in North kerry and got a call, to see would I stop off on the way home to make up the numbers for a Junior B match, grand I said sure I can jump in at corner back or corner forward, somewhere with as little running as possible, as I was after playing 90 mins at midfield already. Baxtards started me at wing back (because I was young and itd be no bother to me apparently) Anyhow the other lads had a 5ft 4" Rotund full back who fancied himself as abit of a seamus moynihan, kept galloping up the pitch, quite a sight I can tell you. Our full forward was a big lanky lazy lad that wouldn't follow him. So we were playing away and there was a typical Junior B shamozial on our 45 and as the ball broke to me I noticed the portly figure of their FB rushing at me like a heifer left out of the shed in spring. If he's here! Whos marking Joe (our ff) i thought!. So with me not wanting to do any running, I drove the ball as high and as hard as I possibly could towards their goal, Hoping Joe would be underneath it. The ball took an age to drop and in the end it nearly came straight down, and landed over the bar on top of the roof of the net. Its the longest range point id ever seem and under the circumstances I believe it to be the single greatest achievement in GAA history.

ShamoBuc · 19-06-2021 9:13pm

TITANIUM. wrote: »

True, the keeper always gets the blame for a TEAM kickout strategy going wrong.

Back on topic! About 20 odds years ago we were after winning a Minor county championship, I was driving back after playing a soccer match in North kerry and got a call, to see would I stop off on the way home to make up the numbers for a Junior B match, grand I said sure I can jump in at corner back or corner forward, somewhere with as little running as possible, as I was after playing 90 mins at midfield already. Baxtards started me at wing back (because I was young and itd be no bother to me apparently) Anyhow the other lads had a 5ft 4" Rotund full back who fancied himself as abit of a seamus moynihan, kept galloping up the pitch, quite a sight I can tell you. Our full forward was a big lanky lazy lad that wouldn't follow him. So we were playing away and there was a typical Junior B shamozial on our 45 and as the ball broke to me I noticed the portly figure of their FB rushing at me like a heifer left out of the shed in spring. If he's here! Whos marking Joe (our ff) i thought!. So with me not wanting to do any running, I drove the ball as high and as hard as I possibly could towards their goal, Hoping Joe would be underneath it. The ball took an age to drop and in the end it nearly came straight down, and landed over the bar on top of the roof of the net. Its the longest range point id ever seem and under the circumstances I believe it to be the single greatest achievement in GAA history.

Reckon we should just close the thread now.

Rega · 20-06-2021 7:07pm

Kerry Footballers 1975-1986 who won 4 all Irelands in a row

TITANIUM. wrote: »

True, the keeper always gets the blame for a TEAM kickout strategy going wrong.

Back on topic! About 20 odds years ago we were after winning a Minor county championship, I was driving back after playing a soccer match in North kerry and got a call, to see would I stop off on the way home to make up the numbers for a Junior B match, grand I said sure I can jump in at corner back or corner forward, somewhere with as little running as possible, as I was after playing 90 mins at midfield already. Baxtards started me at wing back (because I was young and itd be no bother to me apparently) Anyhow the other lads had a 5ft 4" Rotund full back who fancied himself as abit of a seamus moynihan, kept galloping up the pitch, quite a sight I can tell you. Our full forward was a big lanky lazy lad that wouldn't follow him. So we were playing away and there was a typical Junior B shamozial on our 45 and as the ball broke to me I noticed the portly figure of their FB rushing at me like a heifer left out of the shed in spring. If he's here! Whos marking Joe (our ff) i thought!. So with me not wanting to do any running, I drove the ball as high and as hard as I possibly could towards their goal, Hoping Joe would be underneath it. The ball took an age to drop and in the end it nearly came straight down, and landed over the bar on top of the roof of the net. Its the longest range point id ever seem and under the circumstances I believe it to be the single greatest achievement in GAA history.

I hope to God you walked straight off the field and never kicked a ball again in your life. You'd have gone down in folklore. Fellas would talk in hushed tones as you entered the pub. "There he is now. That's the man. I heard the county chairman was onto him, begging him to tog out, if only for the all Ireland but he wouldn't budge."

Asdfgh2020 · 20-06-2021 9:10pm

TITANIUM. wrote: »

True, the keeper always gets the blame for a TEAM kickout strategy going wrong.

Back on topic! About 20 odds years ago we were after winning a Minor county championship, I was driving back after playing a soccer match in North kerry and got a call, to see would I stop off on the way home to make up the numbers for a Junior B match, grand I said sure I can jump in at corner back or corner forward, somewhere with as little running as possible, as I was after playing 90 mins at midfield already. Baxtards started me at wing back (because I was young and itd be no bother to me apparently) Anyhow the other lads had a 5ft 4" Rotund full back who fancied himself as abit of a seamus moynihan, kept galloping up the pitch, quite a sight I can tell you. Our full forward was a big lanky lazy lad that wouldn't follow him. So we were playing away and there was a typical Junior B shamozial on our 45 and as the ball broke to me I noticed the portly figure of their FB rushing at me like a heifer left out of the shed in spring. If he's here! Whos marking Joe (our ff) i thought!. So with me not wanting to do any running, I drove the ball as high and as hard as I possibly could towards their goal, Hoping Joe would be underneath it. The ball took an age to drop and in the end it nearly came straight down, and landed over the bar on top of the roof of the net. Its the longest range point id ever seem and under the circumstances I believe it to be the single greatest achievement in GAA history.

You can ‘pull my other one’ also…ott hyperbolic tale and not in the slightest bit credible or even humorous

Formosa · 21-06-2021 11:24am

YFlyer wrote: »

Limerick 73.

Lol...I think you should be in the "Opposite of greatest achievement in GAA History" thread.

gormdubhgorm · 21-06-2021 4:53pm

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

I agree. Cluxton is great with placed balls and set pieces. Dublin perfected kickout strategy but this is dependent on an accurate kicker, excellent movement of the outfield players and the coaching staff to coordinate - i think Cluxton gets a disproportionate amount of credit for this strategy

He still has to aim the ball in the right areas and had the still to be accurate.
If it was as easy as you say every one would be doing it.

Plus not only that Cluxton was the first keeper to really revolutionise the position in Gaelic football it was no longer hit and hope stuff.

This article here shows how Cluxton was not keen on short kick outs at the start. But Gilroy persuaded him. And then Cluxton worked like mad at developing him technique. The free kicks only happened by chance when Dublin were stuck one day in a pre season game or something.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/stephen-cluxton-the-skinny-lad-in-goal-who-forged-dublin-s-endless-empire-1.4571398?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fsport%2Fgaelic-games%2Fgaelic-football%2Fstephen-cluxton-the-skinny-lad-in-goal-who-forged-dublin-s-endless-empire-1.4571398

If it is not one of the greatest achievements in GAA history to revolutionise a position and redinfine it, it certainly is the greatest achievement in the goalkeeper position?

Cluxton also inspired his contemporaries in the game such as Niall Morgan:

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2016/09/17/news/stephen-cluxton-the-keepers-keeper-698459/

Pogue eile · 21-06-2021 4:56pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

He still has to aim the ball in the right areas and had the still to be accurate.
If it was as easy as you say every one would be doing it.

Plus not only that Cluxton was the first keeper to really revolutionise the position in Gaelic football it was no longer hit and hope stuff.

This article here shows how Cluxton was not keen on short kick outs at the start. But Gilroy persuaded him. And then Cluxton worked like mad at developing him technique. The free kicks only happened by chance when Dublin were stuck one day in a pre season game or something.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/stephen-cluxton-the-skinny-lad-in-goal-who-forged-dublin-s-endless-empire-1.4571398?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fsport%2Fgaelic-games%2Fgaelic-football%2Fstephen-cluxton-the-skinny-lad-in-goal-who-forged-dublin-s-endless-empire-1.4571398

If it is not one of the greatest achievements in GAA history to revolutionise a position and redinfine it, it certainly is the greatest achievement in the goalkeeper position?

Cluxton also inspired his contemporaries in the game such as Niall Morgan:

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2016/09/17/news/stephen-cluxton-the-keepers-keeper-698459/

You are kind or arguing against Cluxton there if I'm honest - sounds like Gilroy is the one who 'revolutionised' the Goalkeeper role and Cluxton was the beneficiary.

gormdubhgorm · 23-06-2021 2:25pm

The greatest achievement in GAA history has yet to occur.
It will be the journalist who persuades Stephen Cluxton to do an interview.

jmayo · 23-06-2021 2:53pm

There is no way I would see Cork's double winning year as greatest ever.

Cork are or were anyway a predominant hurling county.
They had won 7 in the preceding 20 years.
So nothing special to win another one.

Yes in football they were under the shadow for years of one of the greatest teams ever, but by 1990 it was their fourth final in a row.

And the county is so large that it has always been able to cope with both codes.

So really the 1990 double was not massive achievement.
It was that both codes happened to have dominant teams at the time.

Now Offaly's achievement of getting to both finals in 1981 was far more of an achievement.
They had much smaller player pool, had no history of success in hurling,
were in their first hurling final and first football final for 9 years.
And fell short against one of the greatest teams ever in Kerry.

So OP should maybe take off the old red tinted glasses.
Cork winning an All Ireland in either code back then was nothing special.

Anyway I would rate the achievements of the underdogs, the ones without all the resources, the massive playing pools, the ones facing adversity, the ones bucking the odds as the the greatest achievers.

Yes it may be corny as the yanks say, but they are what are good about the GAA.

So Down in the 60s, the Northern teams in the 90s, and the likes of Birr, Slaughtneil, Mullinalaghta, Crossmaglen, Corrofin.

gormdubhgorm · 23-06-2021 3:10pm

jmayo wrote: »

There is no way I would see Cork's double winning year as greatest ever.

Cork are or were anyway a predominant hurling county.
They had won 7 in the preceding 20 years.
So nothing special to win another one.

Yes in football they were under the shadow for years of one of the greatest teams ever, but by 1990 it was their fourth final in a row.

And the county is so large that it has always been able to cope with both codes.

So really the 1990 double was not massive achievement.
It was that both codes happened to have dominant teams at the time.

Now Offaly's achievement of getting to both finals in 1991 was far more of an achievement.
They had much smaller player pool, had no history of success in hurling,
were in their first hurling final and first football final for 9 years.
And fell short against one of the greatest teams ever in Kerry.

So OP should maybe take off the old red tinted glasses.
Cork winning an All Ireland in either code back then was nothing special.

Anyway I would rate the achievements of the underdogs, the ones without all the resources, the massive playing pools, the ones facing adversity, the ones bucking the odds as the the greatest achievers.

Yes it may be corny as the yanks say, but they are what are good about the GAA.

So Down in the 60s, the Northern teams in the 90s, and the likes of Birr, Slaughtneil, Mullinalaghta, Crossmaglen, Corrofin.

1981 is a good point relative to the strength of the county.

Not that I want to make a habit of agreeing with a Mayo person. But I agree with you. Achievements are either against the odds, or maybe glorious era based - consistency/longevity etc. Those would be the two people would think of when they think achievement.

At club level in football based on the two above, I would be thinking Crossmaglen for consistency. Or Portumna in hurling who had to get out of a seriously competitive county for a start.

On one offs in football you would have to say another Ulster team St Galls who won an all-ireland. Still baffles me how they managed it from nowhere. Or Mullinalaghta winning Leinster.

In hurling as well I would argue the achievements of Cuala from Dalkey are outstanding. Given the numbers that play hurling in Dublin and the area of Dublin that Cuala are based in. It is like they have created a hurling oasis from nothing.

If I was too look at the opposite end of the spectrum biggest underachievers in football would be - Kildare, Ballymun and Portlaoise. Based on the players they had/have and what they have achieved.

jmayo · 23-06-2021 4:42pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

1981 is a good point relative to the strength of the county.

Not that I want to make a habit of agreeing with a Mayo person. But I agree with you.

Careful now.

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Achievements are either against the odds, or maybe glorious era based - consistency/longevity etc. Those would be the two people would think of when they think achievement.

At club level in football based on the two above, I would be thinking Crossmaglen for consistency. Or Portumna in hurling who had to get out of a seriously competitive county for a start.

The reason I would rate Crossmaglen as special achievers is the tumultuous history they had in 70s and 80s.
Hell the guys that laid the foundations for the later domination had to put up with some awful sh** when they were coming through the ranks.
It would have been easy to give up.
Corrofin because they are small and they appear to do the right things time and again.

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

On one offs in football you would have to say another Ulster team St Galls who won an all-ireland. Still baffles me how they managed it from nowhere. Or Mullinalaghta winning Leinster.

In hurling as well I would argue the achievements of Cuala from Dalkey are outstanding. Given the numbers that play hurling in Dublin and the area of Dublin that Cuala are based in. It is like they have created a hurling oasis from nothing.

What Cuala did was special in attracting players where there was no history, but then I think of the massive financial clout they have and their achievements lose a bit of the gloss.

spurshero · 23-06-2021 4:49pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

The greatest achievement in GAA history has yet to occur.
It will be the journalist who persuades Stephen Cluxton to do an interview.

There won’t be too many rushing to buy that paper . One of all time greats absolutely no doubt about that.

gormdubhgorm · 23-06-2021 11:19pm

jmayo wrote: »

Careful now.

What Cuala did was special in attracting players where there was no history, but then I think of the massive financial clout they have and their achievements lose a bit of the gloss.

They were already rich in Dalkey anyway

, it never helped them in the GAA before that! Mick Holden was their only legend for years.

It all comes down to training and putting the effort in allied to talent levels, the funding thing is a misnomer. The real change was organisational and structural. But I am not getting sidetracked with the Dublin funding debate, there are other threads on that.

Oh another great GAA achievement was Caltra (Galway) beating An Gaeltacht (Kerry) in the AI club in 2004. A lot of them looked liked mascots beside the Kerry lads. This was a Gaeltacht team full of O'Sé's.

cms88 · 24-06-2021 8:27am

Kilkenny Hurlers 2000-2015 who won 4 all irelands in a row

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

1981 is a good point relative to the strength of the county.

Not that I want to make a habit of agreeing with a Mayo person. But I agree with you. Achievements are either against the odds, or maybe glorious era based - consistency/longevity etc. Those would be the two people would think of when they think achievement.

At club level in football based on the two above, I would be thinking Crossmaglen for consistency. Or Portumna in hurling who had to get out of a seriously competitive county for a start.

On one offs in football you would have to say another Ulster team St Galls who won an all-ireland. Still baffles me how they managed it from nowhere. Or Mullinalaghta winning Leinster.

In hurling as well I would argue the achievements of Cuala from Dalkey are outstanding. Given the numbers that play hurling in Dublin and the area of Dublin that Cuala are based in. It is like they have created a hurling oasis from nothing.

If I was too look at the opposite end of the spectrum biggest underachievers in football would be - Kildare, Ballymun and Portlaoise. Based on the players they had/have and what they have achieved.

To be fair you can't really say St.Galls came from nowhere to win it in 2010. They'd been in the final in 06 and had been in the Ulster final in 07 so they'd been around for a while at that stage.

gormdubhgorm · 24-06-2021 11:49am

cms88 wrote: »

To be fair you can't really say St.Galls came from nowhere to win it in 2010. They'd been in the final in 06 and had been in the Ulster final in 07 so they'd been around for a while at that stage.

Jayus makes it worse that I was probably at one of them as well, when I think of it. Anyway I think it is very impressive that a team from Antrim is able to get that far. On paper they have no notion of it. I can't remember the year of the one I was at, but it dour low scoring.

megadodge · 24-06-2021 8:37pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

They were already rich in Dalkey anyway , it never helped them in the GAA before that! Mick Holden was their only legend for years.

It all comes down to training and putting the effort in allied to talent levels, the funding thing is a misnomer. The real change was organisational and structural. But I am not getting sidetracked with the Dublin funding debate, there are other threads on that.

Oh another great GAA achievement was Caltra (Galway) beating An Gaeltacht (Kerry) in the AI club in 2004. A lot of them looked liked mascots beside the Kerry lads. This was a Gaeltacht team full of O'Sé's.

I certainly agree with Caltra.

I had been in school with two of the Meehans and as a result used to look out for Caltra's results in Galway (I'm from Roscommon). They are a very small club and they won two Galway 'A' U21 titles in a row and I thought that was a savage achievement. They then won the Galway Intermediate title and I thought that was a fine achievement too, but reckoned they could be back down in a few years. So, All-Ireland Senior club champions??? And I was at it too, cheering them on.

Just to clarify something mentioned a few posts back - Corofin is a very big club, both geographically and numbers-wise. Anybody in Galway will tell you that. Which is not to denigrate their fantastic achievements. But don't call them 'small'.

cms88 · 24-06-2021 8:45pm

Kilkenny Hurlers 2000-2015 who won 4 all irelands in a row

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Jayus makes it worse that I was probably at one of them as well, when I think of it. Anyway I think it is very impressive that a team from Antrim is able to get that far. On paper they have no notion of it. I can't remember the year of the one I was at, but it dour low scoring.

I think that was 06 when they lost to Salthill. I actually thought they had won more Ulster titles in that time but it was only the two in 05 and 09.

seligehgit · 24-06-2021 9:18pm

cms88 wrote: »

I think that was 06 when they lost to Salthill. I actually thought they had won more Ulster titles in that time but it was only the two in 05 and 09.

It was 2006.

I was at it.

It was a double win for Galway,attended with a mate from hurling country in Galway.

Portumna won the hurling.

My abiding memory was of the near arctic conditions.

I nigh froze to death.

It was a great effort by St. Galls.

24-06-2021 9:36pm

cms88 wrote: »

To be fair you can't really say St.Galls came from nowhere to win it in 2010. They'd been in the final in 06 and had been in the Ulster final in 07 so they'd been around for a while at that stage.

Remember vividly the All-Ireland senior club football final in 2010 when St Galls came on top. They defeated Kilmurry Ibrickane from my own county Clare. And on that I think that KIB's Munster football senior club Championship successes of 2004 and 2009 is worthy of one of the finest achievements when you consider the population and location. A great club indeed.

24-06-2021 9:42pm

Golf Crazy Guy wrote: »

Remember vividly the All-Ireland senior club football final in 2010 when St Galls came on top. They defeated Kilmurry Ibrickane from my own county Clare. And on that I think that KIB's Munster football senior club Championship successes of 2004 and 2009 is worthy of one of the finest achievements when you consider the population and location. A great club indeed.

By same vain,newtownshandrum of cork surely worthy of a mention

Something 600 of a population,contested 2 all ireland club finals,winning one.

cms88 · 24-06-2021 10:02pm

Kilkenny Hurlers 2000-2015 who won 4 all irelands in a row

Golf Crazy Guy wrote: »

Remember vividly the All-Ireland senior club football final in 2010 when St Galls came on top. They defeated Kilmurry Ibrickane from my own county Clare. And on that I think that KIB's Munster football senior club Championship successes of 2004 and 2009 is worthy of one of the finest achievements when you consider the population and location. A great club indeed.

Dromcollogher/Broadford from Limerick winning Munster in 08 would also be one. I think they even beat Nemo Rangers along the way.

Hammer Archer · 25-06-2021 7:32am

Local to me, but Kilbride's achievement of winning five Meath Senior Football Championships in the 1960s/70s was incredible when you think about it. Kilbride is a tiny village right on the Meath/Dublin border. It probably has about 200-300 people, a church, a pub, a primary school, has had a petrol station on and off and that's it. They would have been a junior club for the vast majority of their history but in the 1960s, they happened to cobble together one of the greatest club sides in the history of Meath football (possibly in Ireland itself).

They won their first ever Junior title in 1960, followed by the Intermediate title in 1962. From 1964, they reached 7 of the next 8 senior finals, winning 5 of them. They were beaten by Kells in the second replay of the 1966 final. The 1965 final was abandoned because Kilbride's Martin Quinn was sent off and refused to leave the field (he sat on the ball). Meath's All Ireland winning side of 1967 had 7 Kilbride players on the panel which is astonishing given the size of the village.

Since their last senior championship win in 1971, Kilbride haven't won a single adult championship and for some time they were on the brink of going out of existence, but have had some good success at underage level recently sparking hopes of a rejuvenation of their adult side in the not too distant future.

Rosita · 25-06-2021 10:11am

spurshero wrote: »

There won’t be too many rushing to buy that paper . One of all time greats absolutely no doubt about that but the personality of a stone.

I think this personalised post is very poor form.

BENDYBINN · 25-06-2021 2:24pm

Surely Tipps win in 89 will never be forgotten.......the way they took Galway out without ever puckin a ball was pure class....and Galway goin for the three in a row..

Rosita · 25-06-2021 6:07pm

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Surely Tipps win in 89 will never be forgotten.......the way they took Galway out without ever puckin a ball was pure class....and Galway goin for the three in a row..

Surely the real achievement was Galway "goin for three in a row" in just their sixth championship game over three years. They won two All Ireland titles playing five matches one agin' London. Greatest achievement surely. They played 6 games to get out of Leinster in 2018 and were blamed for not winning the All Ireland.

26-06-2021 6:31pm

Rosita wrote: »

I think this personalised post is very poor form.

Agree

randd1 · 28-06-2021 3:17pm

Dublin Footballers 2011-2020 who won 6 all Irelands in a row

Rosita wrote: »

Mmmmmm..........last year Waterford beat Kilkenny by 4. Limerick beat Waterford by 11.

11 + 4 =.................

Stranger things have happened when you look at the margins.

The year before (2019) Kilkenny beat Limerick by 1.
The year before (2018) Limerick beat Kilkenny by 2.
The year before (2017) Kilkenny beat Limerick by 3.

Limerick are very good, but they're not unbeatable, and Kilkenny have given them plenty of their fill too in recent years, and they're hardly pulling up trees the last few years.

I suppose time will tell, but as of now, Limerick have a long way to go, especially when you think there's more than a few of them Kilkenny players with as many AI medals as Limerick have in their history.

Rosita · 28-06-2021 7:03pm

randd1 wrote: »

I suppose time will tell, but as of now, Limerick have a long way to go, especially when you think there's more than a few of them Kilkenny players with as many AI medals as Limerick have in their history.

Don't see the relevance of this to a possible outcome between the counties this year

randd1 · 29-06-2021 5:25pm

Dublin Footballers 2011-2020 who won 6 all Irelands in a row

Rosita wrote: »

Don't see the relevance of this to a possible outcome between the counties this year

There isn't.

But there is a relevance when we're talking about achievement (or potential achievement in Limericks case), which the thread is about.

Rosita · 29-06-2021 7:57pm

randd1 wrote: »

There isn't.

But there is a relevance when we're talking about achievement (or potential achievement in Limericks case), which the thread is about.

No, there isn't a relevance. I never made any claim about Limerick's potential achievements. That's in the future and unknowable. The debate here is about actual past achievement not future potential achievement. In any event your point was more in the 'biggest genitilia' realm (who has won most etc.) than any serious credible attempt to add to the admittedly uneven, paranoid, partial, and erratic so-called debate here.

randd1 · 30-06-2021 10:26am

Dublin Footballers 2011-2020 who won 6 all Irelands in a row

Rosita wrote: »

No, there isn't a relevance. I never made any claim about Limerick's potential achievements. That's in the future and unknowable. The debate here is about actual past achievement not future potential achievement. In any event your point was more in the 'biggest genitilia' realm (who has won most etc.) than any serious credible attempt to add to the admittedly uneven, paranoid, partial, and erratic so-called debate here.

Riiigghhhttttt.....

Rosita · 03-07-2021 3:39pm

spaceCreated wrote: »

A top tier hurling team? DUBLIN :pac::pac::pac::pac:
Youre surely not being serious, come off it, do you watch hurling? Nah youre joking... surely

Not such a joke now is it?

gormdubhgorm · 03-07-2021 5:34pm

Rosita wrote: »

Not such a joke now is it?

Lovely hurling - posting

spaceCreated · 03-07-2021 8:59pm

Rosita wrote: »

Not such a joke now is it?

1 good win doesnt make a top tier hurling team, 1 loss doesnt make a top tier team terrible. Sure, if they consistently beat what would be regarded as traditional hurling counties over the next 2 years then I could take the comment seriously. Nothing in the last few years would point to Dublin being capable of competing for an All Ireland final, maybe that changes with one win in Leinster but I'd disagree

Rosita · 03-07-2021 9:14pm

Good man, that's the spirit. Don't forget your shovel.

seligehgit · 04-07-2021 9:13am

Few off topic posts.

Let's get back on topic.

Thanks.

The Greatest Achievement In GAA History

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