Machine Head Appreciation Thread

Wrongway1985 · 19-11-2017 2:25pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Was 2014 when they played the academy, not 2015.

Only by a matter of days I remember they were wearing Santa hats at the performance in Fibbers.

Lithium93_ · 28-12-2017 6:48pm

Scathing review of the new album from Decibel magazine

DECIBEL MAGAZINE SLAMS "CATHARSIS"!
The former-Decibel cover stars new album gets called "juvenile", "stupid", "endlessly pummeling" and a "Super Collider-level-miss".

Oh, and hey... **** YOU Jeff Treppel!!

Read the entire review below:

MACHINE HEAD - CATHARSIS

EVERYTHING OLD IS NÜ AGAIN

Let’s just tear off this Band-Aid:

The new Machine Head is a 74-minute rap metal album with a song that sounds like the Dropkick Murphys in the middle. Maybe Robb Flynn really misses the late 90’s (although, let’s be honest who doesn’t these days)? Maybe, after a decade of ridiculously great progressive groove metal records, Flynn decided to blow off some steam by going back to "The Bleeding Red’s" knuckle-dragging simplicity?

The frustrating thing about Catharsis is that Machine Head are great even when they’re making bad music. The Soulfly tribal breakdowns on “Volatile,” the drop tuning on “Beyond The Pale,” the whiteboy hip-hop of “Triple Beam” (nothing more “street” than gymnastics metaphors), the anti-gentrification screed “California Bleeding” –they’re effective in the same primal way that the best Rage Against The Machine and Korn hits were back in the day. None of it feels half-assed; these are clearly well-crafted songs.

It’s all just so stupid.

As intermittently satisfying as the nu-metal approach may be, Flynn and his bandmates have proven themselves more than capable of expressing their rage articulately. This feels juvenile from dudes pushing 50. There are certainly some interesting parts mixed in; unfortunately, with 15 songs, any nuances get lost in the endless pummeling.

Frankly, I’m baffled. This is a "Super-Collider"-level miss from a band that seemed to have ditched this phase long ago.

"Catharsis" drops Jan. 26th

What do you think?

Just a quick scan through, and it seems someone was really disappointed with the new album.

senordingdong · 29-12-2017 11:20am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Scathing review of the new album from Decibel magazine

Just a quick scan through, and it seems someone was really disappointed with the new album.

I've been critical myself but I'll give it a chance first.

machiavellianme · 29-12-2017 1:00pm

The above sounds great, I'll finally get my sequel to Supercharger!

Wrongway1985 · 29-12-2017 2:33pm

Is there anyone out there and the 2 newer tracks are dirt sounds like that trend doesn't stray from the rest of the album which is a pity.

Flynn is an oddball unlike his bandmates he wanted little interaction with fans when he was in Fibbers (which is obviously fine) but strange when he seems really keen on spouting news/sh1te over the internet, kinda like that acquaintance who has no interaction with you in your environment but would add you on Facebook etc regardless.

Lithium93_ · 29-12-2017 5:10pm

machiavellianme wrote: »

The above sounds great, I'll finally get my sequel to Supercharger!

I bloody love Supercharger, that and The Burning Red were my introduction to the band.

machiavellianme · 29-12-2017 5:53pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I bloody love Supercharger, that and The Burning Red were my introduction to the band.

We are few in number, us fans of Supercharger.
All the cool kids laugh at us - despite me being a fan long before and after (since the SFX gig many moons ago).
:pac:

Lithium93_ · 21-01-2018 5:37pm

Rain checking on this album, the 4 tracks released so far have me convinced this album is gonna be the drizzling ****s..

Dargull · 21-01-2018 10:27pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Rain checking on this album, the 4 tracks released so far have me convinced this album is gonna be the drizzling ****s..

Yeah, I’m thinking the same way. Been a fan since Burn My Eyes but everything I’ve heard from this new album is awful. It’s a major misstep I think. Flynn’s ego has gotten the better of him here.

Lithium93_ · 21-01-2018 10:32pm

Dargull wrote: »

Yeah, I’m thinking the same way. Been a fan since Burn My Eyes but everything I’ve heard from this new album is awful. It’s a major misstep I think. Flynn’s ego has gotten the better of him here.

I do wonder how many others feel the same way?

And whoever runs the Machine Head Facebook page are slamming critical reviews of the album, someone in the camp not too fond of criticism it seems.

hot tube productions · 24-01-2018 12:26am

Totally agree!

devildriver · 29-01-2018 6:54pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Rain checking on this album, the 4 tracks released so far have me convinced this album is gonna be the drizzling ****s..

I put myself through it the other day and it veers between dull to awful. Triple Beam sets a new low in their catalogue.

Gaoth Lag · 30-01-2018 9:58am

Farcical band deliver their most farcical record to date.

Robb Flynn is some piece of work. Anyone see his Vegan post at xmas? Thick beyond belief.

Lithium93_ · 30-01-2018 8:41pm

devildriver wrote: »

I put myself through it the other day and it veers between dull to awful. Triple Beam sets a new low in their catalogue.

I listened to it today, it's bad

, oh Robb why you no stick with what you do best.

frag420 · 02-02-2018 6:25pm

Had one listen on Spotify, could only get half way through it!

Delete!!

Lithium93_ · 28-09-2018 8:43pm

Bumping this as Robb has said in a Facebook Live video, that both Phil & Dave have quit the band & Jared had kinda quit. They'll do whatever dates they've left, it's the end of this lineup anyways.

https://www.loudersound.com/news/machine-head-split-up

Wrongway1985 · 30-09-2018 12:52pm

Found it odd the way Robb communicated with the fans more so when I ran into him in Dublin his online persona certainly seemed separate to reality has to sell his band I guess, take nothing away outstanding live band and probably the best line up they've had, last album was junk however.

senordingdong · 30-09-2018 12:57pm

Maybe they'll stay a new band with Adam or Logan

Wrongway1985 · 25-03-2019 6:05pm

Announcement made - Logan Mader and Chris Kontos return to celebrate the 25th Anniversary of "Burn My Eyes" they have published European dates also.

Thurs 7th November - Telegraph Building, Belfast
Fri 8th November - Olympia Theatre, Dublin

Dargull · 25-03-2019 6:26pm

No Duce, No Dice!

Passenger · 25-03-2019 6:31pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wI3LjVR2xU

senordingdong · 25-03-2019 6:49pm

We should have seen this coming.

BigPoppaDump · 25-03-2019 10:37pm

The dublin gig is the last night of the tour too, should be whopper. Olympia though. :rolleyes:

DrumSteve · 25-03-2019 10:39pm

Holy ****ing **** Kontos is back!!!

Blood for Blood, Davidian... Getting tickets for this!

BigPoppaDump · 25-03-2019 10:53pm

They are on sale Friday at 10.

Lithium93_ · 28-03-2019 10:53pm

Wonder if they'll turn up in Fibbers like the last time they ended a tour here right before Christmas in 2014.

DaveNoCheese · 28-03-2019 11:02pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Wonder if they'll turn up in Fibbers like the last time they ended a tour here right before Christmas in 2014.

Is Fibbers the bar that sells bottles of buckfast?

devildriver · 29-03-2019 12:52pm

DrumSteve wrote: »

Holy ****ing **** Kontos is back!!!

Blood for Blood, Davidian... Getting tickets for this!

The weird thing is that Kontos and Mader are only playing the BME part of the concert. The rest will be played by Robb, jared and "two other ragers". WTF?

Part I - will feature a battery of MACHINE HEAD’s modern classics, such as ‘Imperium,’ ‘Halo,’ and, ‘The Blood, The Sweat, The Tears,’ featuring frontman/guitarist Robb Flynn and bassist Jared MacEachern performing alongside two, soon-to-be-announced ragers on guitar and drums.

Part II - will feature the Bay Area band’s classic debut album, ‘Burn My Eyes’ played in its entirety for the first time ever. And if somehow this historical event could not be monumental enough, taking the stage for this part of the set will be ‘Burn My Eyes’-era alumni and MACHINE HEAD’s original drummer Chris Kontos and original guitarist Logan Mader.

Lithium93_ · 29-03-2019 2:07pm

As much as I'm dying to see Burn My Eyes played in it's entirety, I'm more curious to find out who Robb's brought in to fill the positions vacated by Phil & Dave respectively.

Obviously they'll be hired guns, but will they be experienced hired guns, or two people being given a chance.

BigPoppaDump · 29-03-2019 2:21pm

One would have to suspect they will be two known musicians. Will Slayers tour have concluded by the time this kicks off? Would not surprise me to see Holt as one of the two if it is. Meh, dont care anyway, got me ticket this morning and trying to decide whether to upgrade to the VIP package.

DrumSteve · 29-03-2019 6:18pm

devildriver wrote: »

The weird thing is that Kontos and Mader are only playing the BME part of the concert. The rest will be played by Robb, jared and "two other ragers". WTF?

Part I - will feature a battery of MACHINE HEAD’s modern classics, such as ‘Imperium,’ ‘Halo,’ and, ‘The Blood, The Sweat, The Tears,’ featuring frontman/guitarist Robb Flynn and bassist Jared MacEachern performing alongside two, soon-to-be-announced ragers on guitar and drums.

Part II - will feature the Bay Area band’s classic debut album, ‘Burn My Eyes’ played in its entirety for the first time ever. And if somehow this historical event could not be monumental enough, taking the stage for this part of the set will be ‘Burn My Eyes’-era alumni and MACHINE HEAD’s original drummer Chris Kontos and original guitarist Logan Mader.

Real pity they couldn't patch things up with Duce also.

But I'm a big Kontos fan; that entire album for me redefined metal drumming. But very interested to hear if he still has the chops.

Lithium93_ · 29-03-2019 7:09pm

BigPoppaDump wrote: »

One would have to suspect they will be two known musicians. Will Slayers tour have concluded by the time this kicks off? Would not surprise me to see Holt as one of the two if it is. Meh, dont care anyway, got me ticket this morning and trying to decide whether to upgrade to the VIP package.

After Slayer's tour has wrapped, I selfishly want Gary to focus his attention on a new Exodus album, it's been 5 years since Blood In, Blood Out.

s8n · 30-03-2019 5:08pm

are standing for the olympia sold out ??

BigPoppaDump · 31-03-2019 12:49am

They've already sold out the Paris and London gigs so I'd say so.

Lithium93_ · 11-04-2019 12:55am

So they've decided to re-record Burn My Eyes.

devildriver · 11-04-2019 9:34am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

So they've decided to re-record Burn My Eyes.

Not sure what the purpose of re-recording it is. Maybe a quick cash-in, or some type of copyright trick to cut Adam Duce out of the profits???!!!

Dargull · 11-04-2019 10:11am

I just think it’s a live in studio recording of all the tracks on Burn My Eyes that they’ll drip feed on to YouTube to keep the interest in the tour up. From what Flynn is saying I don’t think it’ll get an official release.

senordingdong · 11-04-2019 10:53am

devildriver wrote: »

Not sure what the purpose of re-recording it is. Maybe a quick cash-in, or some type of copyright trick to cut Adam Duce out of the profits???!!!

Yes. Albums, like movies, aren't pulling in the money anymore so reissues, remakes etc are safer investments.

I'd be less interested in who is filling in for mcclain and demmel then why they are gone in the first place.

devildriver · 19-04-2019 10:36am

senordingdong wrote: »

...why they are gone in the first place.

Catharsis is why they are gone!

senordingdong · 19-04-2019 9:16pm

devildriver wrote: »

Catharsis is why they are gone!

But, did Flynn accept material from them and blame it on the album failing, or did they quit because his one man show was going down the toilet?

Jelle1880 · 27-04-2019 1:31am

senordingdong wrote: »

But, did Flynn accept material from them and blame it on the album failing, or did they quit because his one man show was going down the toilet?

They claim it was because they disagreed with the direction the band was going.

To be fair from what I see with those studio recordings I'm not too bothered, they sound great.

Lithium93_ · 28-09-2019 9:21pm

Matt Alston is the new drummer, and Vogg from Decapitated is the new guitarist.

Jurgen The German · 06-10-2019 5:11pm

Set list from the Freiburg gig last night, the first 15 alone would be a smashing gig never mind throwing BME onto the end, really looking forward to this.

Imperium
Take My Scars
Now We Die
Beautiful Mourning
Clenching the Fists of Dissent
Locust
I Am Hell (Sonata in C#)
Aesthetics of Hate
Guitar Solo
Darkness Within
Catharsis
From This Day
Ten Ton Hammer
Is There Anybody Out There?
Halo

Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
Davidian
Old
A Thousand Lies
(preceeded by short drum solo)
None but My Own
The Rage to Overcome
Death Church
A Nation on Fire
Blood for Blood
I'm Your God Now
Block

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/machine-head/2019/sick-arena-freiburg-germany-39c659b.html

Wrongway1985 · 06-10-2019 5:59pm

Going to this tomorrow in Tilburg

Wrongway1985 · 08-10-2019 10:16am

Was a top night, yeah first set alone would have been satisfactory at that but then to top it off with the first album in full, unreal.

Quality shifts put in by all the musicians involved it has to be said, must be some long slog for Jared and more so Robb

They started at 20:10 and finished at 23:30 so needless to say when it comes over here I'd expect it'll likely be a 19:30 start to comply with curfew.

Only change I think from the first show posted there was Bulldozer was played instead of Clenching.

Wish I could make the Dublin show too now but it isn't possible.

Enjoy whoever hits Dublin or Belfast I've no doubt they'll deliver again.

Lithium93_ · 14-10-2019 4:11pm

Oh Robb....

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senordingdong · 14-10-2019 4:19pm

Oh dear...

Lithium93_ · 14-10-2019 4:23pm

senordingdong wrote: »

Oh dear...

Christmas & New Year's all rolled into one for the internet trolls, he's old enough to know better, but still he's dumb enough to fall for it.

senordingdong · 14-10-2019 4:33pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Christmas & New Year's all rolled into one for the internet trolls, he's old enough to know better, but still he's dumb enough to fall for it.

He is his own worst enemy.

Lithium93_ · 14-10-2019 5:04pm

He's slowly getting to this stage...

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