Fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris

ted1 · 15-04-2019 7:41pm

thomil wrote: »

I just hope the scaffolding around the collapsed tower holds on. If that collapsed into the structure, it could do some real damage to the stone work.

Metal fails long before wood.

neris · 15-04-2019 7:41pm

The Talking Bread · 15-04-2019 7:42pm

It is hilarious to see the different angles people take to get the most attention on even a thread like this? No doubt the usual suspects popping up to get on board and be the protagonists and get in their edgy and controversial opinions on a thread with heavy traffic.

15-04-2019 7:42pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Terrible news, I was lucky enough to attend a mass there in November on a Saturday evening.

Stunning place. Will be sad if it's completely devastated, and unfortunately going by the pics I've seen so far, it looks like it is.

The water sprays look pathetic compared to the flames right now - it’s obviously difficult to get to it but heartbreaking to see. Spire is in the middle of the church isn’t it?

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-04-2019 7:43pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Maybe.....just maybe.... a workman reported to him how the fire started as he witnessed it?

Maybe, maybe or maybe just maybe?

Gossip is largely meaningless in regards to the seriousness of a fire destroying such a large and significant building.

The insurance company sure won't be interested in rumours. It may take many days before anyone can enter to actually properly assess the cause.

namloc1980 · 15-04-2019 7:43pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Hope no one dies but great to see such a building in flames. People all over the world Crying because an old building burnt. Apes

ancapailldorcha · 15-04-2019 7:43pm

How horrible. I've only just seen the news.

Roger Hassenforder · 15-04-2019 7:44pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Hope no one dies but great to see such a building in flames. People all over the world Crying because an old building burnt. Apes

Of all the great gobshîtes posting top drawer shîte over the years, surely that's deserving of some kind of award?

no.8 · 15-04-2019 7:47pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote:

Hope no one dies but great to see such a building in flames. People all over the world Crying because an old building burnt. Apes

Please rename as 'ultimate idiot'

pjohnson · 15-04-2019 7:48pm

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Of all the great gobshîtes posting top drawer shîte over the years, surely that's deserving of some kind of award?

Least intelligent of the inbred citizens?

Spanish Eyes · 15-04-2019 7:49pm

Certainly looks like the fire is concentrated in the scaffolded area. Whatever, it is just a devastating thing to happen. Glad no one injured or killed. That's the main thing really.

leahyl · 15-04-2019 7:50pm

I’m suprised a few helicopters haven’t been sent up to drop water on it at this stage, it’s still in flames. It’s very sad, I visited last year and feel privileged to have seen it in real life in its original state.

Timberrrrrrrr · 15-04-2019 7:50pm

Leighton Victorious Palace wrote: »

Maybe, maybe or maybe just maybe?

Gossip is largely meaningless in regards to the seriousness of a fire destroying such a large and significant building.

The insurance company sure won't be interested in rumours. It may take many days before anyone can enter to actually properly assess the cause.

I agree, but if an eyewitness who witnessed (maybe even accidently started) the fire has made a statement yo that fact then would it not be ok for him to state it was an accident?

Or should we just leave the gobsh/tes in here and on twitter.run with their anti muslim agenda?

Oh wait.....t'is yoursef.:rolleyes:

namloc1980 · 15-04-2019 7:50pm

The fire inside the building is still raging. Nothing but the stone will be left.

Force Carrier · 15-04-2019 7:51pm

thomil wrote: »

I just hope the scaffolding around the collapsed tower holds on. If that collapsed into the structure, it could do some real damage to the stone work.

What's left in terms of the stone work will be a grim memorial.

The word negligent springs to mind. What sort of fire protection system was in place? safety plan or fire plan did they have. Risk assessment ahead of work, supervision of workers and equipment? Care taken with fire hazards, electric equipment, cabling etc.

Beechwoodspark · 15-04-2019 7:53pm

Some guy on bbc news saying that it appears to be a very vicious and aggressive fire that took hold very quickly and he is speculating on the cause.

I suppose we will just have to wait and see

15-04-2019 7:53pm

It seems like a very intense fire. I would have thought it would burn a bit slower - bit thick wooden beams seem to be disintegrating like matchsticks.

For Forks Sake · 15-04-2019 7:54pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Hope no one dies but great to see such a building in flames. People all over the world Crying because an old building burnt. Apes

What the hell is wrong with you?

The Rape of Lucretia · 15-04-2019 7:54pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Hope no one dies but great to see such a building in flames. People all over the world Crying because an old building burnt. Apes

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So horrible to watch the massive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. Must act quickly!

Still, to be shown up by Trump is quite some going, Ult.

otnomart · 15-04-2019 7:55pm

French Channel LCI just showing a fireman trying to reach a statue on the facade.
From what I hear, priority is to save artwork before the fire gets to it.

Yer Da sells Avon · 15-04-2019 7:55pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Some guy on bbc news saying that it appears to be a very vicious and aggressive fire that took hold very quickly and he is speculating on the cause.

I suppose we will just have to wait and see

I'm sure you're hoping, like the rest of us, that it was an accident.

Zorya · 15-04-2019 7:55pm

Some expert chap on Sky just said he could not understand how it got so bad so fast. Said"something else" must have happened. Led to an awkward stutter from interviewer. Ken something or other. Must have been a tinderbox. It took 200 years to build.

the whole year inn · 15-04-2019 7:56pm

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So horrible to watch the massive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. Must act quickly!

Still, to be shown up by Trump is quite some going, Ult.

Whats wrong with that?

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-04-2019 7:56pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I agree, but if an eyewitness who witnessed (maybe even accidently started) the fire has made a statement yo that fact then would it not be ok for him to state it was an accident?

Or should we just leave the gobsh/tes in here and on twitter.run with their anti muslim agenda?

Oh wait.....t'is yoursef.:rolleyes:

What a rotten low-life floor dragging response, but ah shure it's yourself.
i.e. Pure Rotten.

This reply came directly in response to suggesting we wait a few days?
I.e. for an official (non rumour/gossip based) verdict, precisely to prevent anyone jumping to any conclusions.

Hold you head low in your own shame good sir.

buried · 15-04-2019 7:56pm

The cathedral is made from French Limestone. Limestone blocks will suffer themselves from high temperatures. The whole thing is destroyed.
What a absolute total disaster.

is_that_so · 15-04-2019 7:57pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Some guy on bbc news saying that it appears to be a very vicious and aggressive fire that took hold very quickly and he is speculating on the cause.

I suppose we will just have to wait and see

That was Ken Follett, the writer.

Ultimate Seduction · 15-04-2019 7:57pm

Burn baby burn.

You'd swear tis yer own houses on fire

Mod: banned

Beechwoodspark · 15-04-2019 7:57pm

Zorya wrote: »

Some expert chap on Sky just said he could not understand how it got so bad so fast. Said"something else" must have happened. Led to an awkward stutter from interviewer. Ken something or other. Must have been a tinderbox. It took 200 years to build.

That’s the guy I was referring to. It was bbc news not sky.

Zorya · 15-04-2019 7:58pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Some guy on bbc news saying that it appears to be a very vicious and aggressive fire that took hold very quickly and he is speculating on the cause.

I suppose we will just have to wait and see

Yes it was an odd comment. Maybe he is in shock as this is his major interest.

pjohnson · 15-04-2019 7:58pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Burn baby burn.

You'd swear tis yer own houses on fire

Iirc you are a McGregor fanboy. Should have known you would be simple.

Spanish Eyes · 15-04-2019 7:59pm

Some Philistines on here.

Zorya · 15-04-2019 7:59pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

That’s the guy I was referring to. It was bbc news not sky.

Yes sorry, I've been switching. Maybe long electrical lines spread it.

15-04-2019 8:00pm

That's horrible, and so soon after the museum went up in Rio.

Hate seeing anything old on fire.

15-04-2019 8:00pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Burn baby burn.

You'd swear tis yer own houses on fire

Jesus Christ..

The Rape of Lucretia · 15-04-2019 8:00pm

the whole year inn wrote: »

Whats wrong with that?

Nothing. Thats the point.

GinAndBitter · 15-04-2019 8:00pm

is_that_so · 15-04-2019 8:00pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Burn baby burn.

You'd swear tis yer own houses on fire

It's a cultural loss that many people have visited. Quite sad to see so much history go up in smoke.

Ghost Train · 15-04-2019 8:01pm

Zorya wrote: »

Some expert chap on Sky just said he could not understand how it got so bad so fast. Said"something else" must have happened. Led to an awkward stutter from interviewer. Ken something or other. Must have been a tinderbox. It took 200 years to build.

Ken Follett, wasn't a good person to have on and the french politician after was also poor, the bbc reporting hasn't been good really

Pity to see the tower also on fire now

the whole year inn · 15-04-2019 8:02pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Nothing. Thats the point.

Me Stupid.

enricoh · 15-04-2019 8:03pm

Hurrache wrote: »

FFS. People like you are just hoping for it to be a terrorist attack, it's a real wet dream for you salivating at the thought.

In fairness he posted credible links to previous isis plots to target that church and that other churches in france have been attacked last month.
Who knows, maybe they did try again.
A big jewel gone in paris' tourist crown, hopefully it was an accident. Tourism got hammered after the bataclan, isis links to this will do more harm than an accident.

ted1 · 15-04-2019 8:03pm

is_that_so wrote: »

It's a cultural loss that many people have visited. Quite sad to see so much history go up in smoke.

Exactly it’s like the night the English went 1-0 down and wrecked landowne road. Is symbolic and an institution

is_that_so · 15-04-2019 8:03pm

Seems to be past its worst but still raging flames.

kravmaga · 15-04-2019 8:04pm

Force Carrier wrote: »

What's left in terms of the stone work will be a grim memorial.

The word negligent springs to mind. What sort of fire protection system was in place? safety plan or fire plan did they have. Risk assessment ahead of work, supervision of workers and equipment? Care taken with fire hazards, electric equipment, cabling etc.

Euro news mentioned that there was some sort of renovation work going on with contractors, maybe they were not supervised properly, a lot of fires in historic buildings can be caused by contractors.

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is_that_so · 15-04-2019 8:04pm

ted1 wrote: »

Exactly it’s like the night the English went 1-0 down and wrecked landowne road. Is symbolic and an institution

It's a majestic building, inside and out and it does symbolise Paris.

15-04-2019 8:04pm

I hope those in the cathedral trying to rescue artifacts have left. No casualties so far so hope they don’t tempt fate at this point.

LirW · 15-04-2019 8:07pm

I was onto my folks that ran a stonework restoration company for a long time and they are devastated.
They said it's entirely plausible that this was caused by the building works since there are usually a lot of temporary wires around.
Also not too surprising that unfortunately an old wooden roof like that would just burn like newspaper.
It's really really sad.

15-04-2019 8:07pm

You have to be mentally unwell or around 13 years old to possibly laugh or gloat about the destruction of a building older than the Aztecs.

Erik Shun · 15-04-2019 8:08pm

kravmaga wrote: »

Euro news mentioned that there was some sort of renovation work going on with contractors, maybe they were not supervised properly, a lot of fires in historic buildings can be caused by contractors

Quite heavy construction going on... so it is a possibility that it was negligence.... but it's the dept of prosecutions who are going to investigate...so that's a pointer to where the French hierarchy are looking right now

josip · 15-04-2019 8:09pm

If it was caused by the renovators would their insurers be liable for the renovation cost?
Not that it could be replaced, but I doubt the French will just cordon it off and leave it derelict.

15-04-2019 8:09pm

LirW wrote: »

I was onto my folks that ran a stonework restoration company for a long time and they are devastated.
They said it's entirely plausible that this was caused by the building works since there are usually a lot of temporary wires around.
Also not too surprising that unfortunately an old wooden roof like that would just burn like newspaper.
It's really really sad.

That’s interesting. I thought big heavy beams would take hours to get going. Obviously not.

Fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris

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