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Dodgy labelling?

  • 17-12-2019 3:19pm
    #1
    silverharp
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    Would one be correct to think that this labelling is misleading? states on the front “Pure Beef Dripping” , while on the back ingredients are Beef oil and vegetable oil , secondly no % so could be anything from 99:1 down to 60:40 for all I know. Feel free to add any other examples that get your goat.

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    https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=256152669

    Ingredients


    Animal Oil (Beef), Vegetable Oil (Rapeseed Oil)

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  • #2
    Macy0161
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    I don't know whether this complies, but nutritional info based upon cooked weight or portions rather than giving per 100g before cooking (at least as well as per portion) for food that requires cooking.

    imo it's trying to hide the real nutritional information while technically complying with requirements.


  • #3
    anacc
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    Should report it to the ASA.


  • #4
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,674 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    anacc wrote: »
    Should report it to the ASA.

    I did send a query to their website, they havnt responded yet. Im not going to get to upset about a product I didn't buy in the end yeah but I might do that.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #5
    Alf Veedersane
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    silverharp wrote: »
    Would one be correct to think that this labelling is misleading? states on the front “Pure Beef Dripping” , while on the back ingredients are Beef oil and vegetable oil , secondly no % so could be anything from 99:1 down to 60:40 for all I know. Feel free to add any other examples that get your goat.

    https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=256152669

    Not sure but they probably get around that by saying there is pure beef dripping but that there is another ingredient along with the pure beef dripping in the product Frytex Original, i.e. they could contend that they're not saying Frytex Original is pure beef dripping but that it contains pure beef dripping.

    Which may be true but it may also be considered a little misleading.


  • #6
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,674 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Not sure but they probably get around that by saying there is pure beef dripping but that there is another ingredient along with the pure beef dripping in the product Frytex Original, i.e. they could contend that they're not saying Frytex Original is pure beef dripping but that it contains pure beef dripping.

    Which may be true but it may also be considered a little misleading.

    Im sure, I'd also guess the "original" product did not include seed oils. Anyway Ill drop into M&S over the weekend see if they have a real pure beef dripping

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • #7
    mathie
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    https://www.naturevalley.ie/what-we-make/crunchy-oats-dark-chocolate/

    100% Wholegrain Oats!

    And by 100% we mean 55%.
    Wholegrain rolled oats (55%), sugar, sunflower oil, dark chocolate pieces (8%)(cocoa mass, sugar, emulsifier: soy lecithin; natural vanilla flavouring), fat reduced cocoa, honey, salt, molasses, emulsifier: sunflower lecithin; raising agent: sodium bicarbonate; natural flavouring. For allergens, see ingredients in bold. May contain peanut and tree nuts ingredients.


  • #8
    Carnmore
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Carnmore


    silverharp wrote: »
    Would one be correct to think that this labelling is misleading? states on the front “Pure Beef Dripping” , while on the back ingredients are Beef oil and vegetable oil , secondly no % so could be anything from 99:1 down to 60:40 for all I know. Feel free to add any other examples that get your goat.

    5011031083028_3.JPG


    https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=256152669

    Did you get a reply from the manufacturer regarding this OP?

    I bought a packet the other day and noticed the same


  • #9
    Patsy167
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    I fell for this one last week

    https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/272061551

    INGREDIENTS: Maltodextrin, Sweetener (2%) (Steviol Glycosides).


  • #10
    Cill94
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    I don't know whether this complies, but nutritional info based upon cooked weight or portions rather than giving per 100g before cooking (at least as well as per portion) for food that requires cooking.

    imo it's trying to hide the real nutritional information while technically complying with requirements.

    Yep. Pasta brands are particularly bad for this. Quite a few of them don't specify if the values are for cooked or dry.

    Another one is brands that will list the calories on the packaging, and then in teeny writing beside they note that's actually only for a 100g serving.


  • #11
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Cill94 wrote: »
    Yep. Pasta brands are particularly bad for this. Quite a few of them don't specify if the values are for cooked or dry.

    Another one is brands that will list the calories on the packaging, and then in teeny writing beside they note that's actually only for a 100g serving.
    Yes. So if you want to portion, you have to bin or suck up extra?

    There's a lot of abdication of personal responsibility around weight imo, but those that regulate what is appropriate labelling hardly help matters!


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  • #12
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,674 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Patsy167 wrote: »
    I fell for this one last week

    https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/272061551

    INGREDIENTS: Maltodextrin, Sweetener (2%) (Steviol Glycosides).

    that is blatant, Tesco get slaughtered in the comments, I never noticed a comments section on Tesco.ie or is it just the UK site that allows comments?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #13
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,674 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    someone pointed this out on Twitter, has a point

    https://twitter.com/scary_biscuits/status/1314135225732157441

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #14
    Glaistyn
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Glaistyn


    silverharp wrote: »
    Would one be correct to think that this labelling is misleading? states on the front “Pure Beef Dripping” , while on the back ingredients are Beef oil and vegetable oil , secondly no % so could be anything from 99:1 down to 60:40 for all I know. Feel free to add any other examples that get your goat.

    Said I'd clarify what the quantities are, since I was searching like mad online for it and kept finding this thread.

    I called the manufacturer. It's 94% Animal Oil, 6% Rapeseed, quantities vary +/- 1% per batch.

    What I forgot to ask was if that percentage is w/w, w/v, v/v or what! Since the product is sold in grams I'll assume w/w.

    As an FYI if anyone's looking to use this for soapmaking or similar like myself, the density of beef tallow (0.87g/cm^3) vs rapeseed oil (0.91g/cm^3) is close enough that it shouldnt matter for small batches if there's any weight/volume confusion regarding the percentages.


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