Murder house

02-01-2019 9:08pm

L1011 wrote: »

"We do not believe the property can be resold for that value" is not an illegitimate reason for refusal

You couldn't borrow against 1 bed apartments for quite some time a few years ago due to concerns about resaleability - exactly the same concern.

That's a completely different scenario. As long as the value is reflected properly it shouldnt be declined. Anyways I'll agree to disagree, only giving my opinion having worked in 2 mortage credit departments in main banks.

tayto lover · 02-01-2019 9:57pm

The house I'm living in now was built around 1760. I have the deeds.
At one stage 3 families shared it on different floors.
Loads of people were born in it and loads died in it too. I don't know if any died violently.
I have never had an eerie feeling in it. As yet anyway.

splinter65 · 02-01-2019 10:05pm

My friend at one point during the Celtic tiger owned 5 or 6 houses around the town rented out (one of them in my estate) and ran 2 or 3 pubs.
One night the tenants in the house in this estate had a mad drink/drugs party and one of the tenants died in the bathroom.
About a week later another housemate hung himself from the bannisters. The landlord (my friend) redecorated and moved back in himself because no one would rent it from him after that. It didn’t bother him one bit.

Muahahaha · 02-01-2019 11:25pm

I wonder how a house would sell if it was owned by a murderer but no murder took place there. Did the house in Foxrock ever come on the market? I believe it was a bit of an attraction after the trial.

listermint · 02-01-2019 11:28pm

tayto lover wrote: »

The house I'm living in now was built around 1760. I have the deeds.
At one stage 3 families shared it on different floors.
Loads of people were born in it and loads died in it too. I don't know if any died violently.
I have never had an eerie feeling in it. As yet anyway.

Not exactly a fair comparison.

Let's say you are the op.

And let's say you had a newspaper article from 1990 of an entire family having been murdered in the kitchen.

Now honestly do you think you'd feel different given the knowledge. Or will you pretend knowing that event occurred everytime you walked into the kitchen wouldn't have an impact.

Because the op is fully aware of the details of a violent death associated with the house. You are not. Two massively different things

listermint · 02-01-2019 11:32pm

splinter65 wrote: »

My friend at one point during the Celtic tiger owned 5 or 6 houses around the town rented out (one of them in my estate) and ran 2 or 3 pubs.
One night the tenants in the house in this estate had a mad drink/drugs party and one of the tenants died in the bathroom.
About a week later another housemate hung himself from the bannisters. The landlord (my friend) redecorated and moved back in himself because no one would rent it from him after that. It didn’t bother him one bit.

No one would rent it from him....

He was living in it because of the financial impact to him. Of course it wouldn't bother him.

Terrible example of something not bothering people

BBFAN · 02-01-2019 11:37pm

OP, there are two elements here. Obviously you have no compunctions about living in this house and that's fine, I'd probably feel the same, I don't believe in ghosts or bad spirits etc.

BUT, the neighbours will always look on you as the one that lives in THAT house and that would bother me.

Also, resale value will definitely be less.

It's up to you but please don't think that using it as a bargaining tool is going to work out to your advantage because it probably won't in the long run.

At best your neighbours will always think you're a weirdo and at worst you won't be able to sell it.

Twenty Grand · 02-01-2019 11:45pm

tayto lover wrote: »

The house I'm living in now was built around 1760. I have the deeds.
At one stage 3 families shared it on different floors.
Loads of people were born in it and loads died in it too. I don't know if any died violently.
I have never had an eerie feeling in it. As yet anyway.

I'd say plenty of houses had people killed or buried on the grounds at some stage. Maybe not recently, but I suppose if you don't know it can't hurt.

There's an estate near me built on an old battlefield and no one's ever thought twice, and sure most towns have been sieged and plundered at one stage.

Bren_C · 03-01-2019 3:33am

OP is this in D24?

Graces7 · 03-01-2019 7:29am

At one rental I lived in, the landlord showed me a simple wooden chair. "Old Mr x died in that chair. They found him days later sitting on it, and the amazing thing was HE DID NOT FALL OFF!"

The chair had become an object of reverence and I was expected to cherish it.

Graces7 · 03-01-2019 7:32am

El Tarangu wrote: »

I'd say that there are a lot of older houses where things that would nowadays be considered as child abuse and marital rape took place on weekly basis; but people live in those houses today, happy and oblivious.

The only difference being that murders always make the newspapers, whereas spousal abuse, child abuse, or suicide would not.

OP - if you visit the house, you will probably know yourself already if it is likely to prey on your mind or not. If it doesn't, and you manage to negotiate a discount on the purchase price, I would say to go for it.

amen to this. The house where I spent my childhood was just such a house, filled with darkness. Sold fine but I could never have lived there

Moomintroll99 · 03-01-2019 1:56pm

I had a friend in Australia whose dad was murdered in his home, really horribly, it was literally a horror movie style axe wielding maniac, the absolute stuff of your worst nightmares.

She was dealing with his estate and really worried about selling the place because this was headline news, everyone knew both in the town and across the country.

At the first open for inspection, there were 3 different buyers all delighted at the idea that they would get a bargain because they could handle the history of the place and no one else could. They all bid against each other and she ended up getting market value for it, and the buyer redecorated and moved straight in with his wife & kids.

So for some it's a dealbreaker but for others a weird kind of dealmaker!

tayto lover · 03-01-2019 2:08pm

Would anyone live in that house in Cavan where the loony murdered his wife and children before hanging himself in it?

The Davestator · 03-01-2019 5:15pm

Listened to an episode of casefile recently and it covered this topic from Australia.

An estate agent failed to disclose the houses horrible history and they were fined and the law changed.

Search Gonzalez Murder House for more info

canonball5 · 03-01-2019 5:19pm

Maybe not the best user name for this thread OP

D3V!L · 03-01-2019 5:20pm

canonball5 wrote: »

Maybe not the best user name for this thread OP

I have insider sources for my tip off :cool:

the_syco · 04-01-2019 11:24am

D3V!L wrote: »

I have insider sources for my tip off :cool:

The murder tipped you off so you could make a killing on the property price?

D3V!L · 04-01-2019 11:25am

the_syco wrote: »

The murder tipped you off so you could make a killing on the property price?

Yes.....

Thats exactly what I meant.

3DataModem · 04-01-2019 1:27pm

begbysback wrote: »

Statistically it’s safer to buy a house where there has been a violent murder.

(The chances of it happening twice are irrelevant, as it has already happened once. Your chance of winning the lottery doesn't reduce just because you won it last week.)

Perhaps the opposite is true... maybe it is MORE likely to happen again depending on the circumstances;

I "know someone" who was subject to a home invasion. The convicted person returned to the house (outside window looking in) within a year of the incident. If they came back again the another year later they'd have found new occupants.

worded · 05-01-2019 9:44pm

porsche boy wrote: »

Would the house be around the Naul??

A stab in the dark?

Get Real · 05-01-2019 9:59pm

Probably wouldn't myself if I knew a murder occurred there in my lifetime. Not sure why, but that's the "rule" I'd apply.

It has also reminded me of " Ahhhhh! Purple drapes!!"

Murder house

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