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Global Warming Skeptics have bigger scientific backing than Global Warming Backers

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  • #52
    gerky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    PlantPot wrote: »
    Patience

    http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fl20080722jk.html


    They are not proper reports, they're newspaper links both on the claims of one person.
    If I get an article published in a paper does that mean its true?
    When have I even been smart assed?

    When asked for proof your retort was something about the ipcc which has nothing to do with waste management.


  • #53
    Húrin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Húrin


    PlantPot wrote: »
    it is more energy intensive to recycle materials than create new products.
    Obviously you think it is more economical to recycle trollish talking points than to create new ones!


  • #54
    gerky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    By the way casey maybe you should keep a better record of what you post under your different names.

    On the 13th of September you posted the same link to japantimes. :D


  • #55
    eco8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭eco8


    'casey’ you’re full of sh*t lol, I see the way you conveniently ignore the other points I made. I want to breath cleaner air and if it means wannabe rich guys can’t afford to pay tax on a fancy car that contributes to the bad air then I’m all for it. Private companies have a reputation for not giving a crap about anything but the bottom line. I’m against privatization therefore it makes sense that your ‘mate’ is a gangster. You didn’t say which plant you went to btw, I’d like to know what bull you’re spouting just for the sake of trying to win a very weak argument that you have hehe I’m all for the global warming propaganda!!! Fake or true, it doesn’t matter to me coz I know as well as you do the less big cars on the road the better for the air that we breath and longer we live. If you become more greener you pay less in the end, so what exactly is your problem? this is an opportunity to save money in the long run. become self sustaining and ‘save the polar bears’ lol


  • #56
    gerky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    PlantPot wrote: »
    Gerk, what was true then is still true now.


    So your admitting that your the same person, good that's progress.

    Before your banned yet again, why do you bother going to the trouble of signing up over and over?

    Do you have a lot of spare time? Do you actually believe all you rant about or are just posting over and over again to try and annoy people?


  • #57
    Húrin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Húrin


    PlantPot wrote: »
    Gerk, what was true then is still true now.

    Why are you even posting about recycling in a climate change thread?


  • #58
    gerky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    PlantPot wrote: »
    I never hide who I am. One must make people aware of this climate change scam, before we are all in chains.

    And this trolling stuff, a troll would have given up long ago.

    In ten years you lot will be shocked about how naive you were, this "greening" movement will have been used to take away any few remaining rights.

    Yes you do, You have pretended to be several different people, you even pretended to be a blond teenage girl at one point.

    You keep making these claims yet never have proper proof to back them up, again you'll notice I said proper such as real peer reviewed reports/studies.

    If you can't accept scientific consensus then surely you won't accept anything around you, you'll never take medicine, never eat food, never use any technology and so on.


  • #59
    espinolman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    hoser expat wrote: »

    And yes, I come at this with some relevant background. I have a PhD in earth sciences, am a professor that has researched climate change, and my work has been quoted by the IPCC.

    What are the chemtrails about , do you think?


  • #60
    espinolman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    espinolman wrote: »
    What are the chemtrails about , do you think?

    I see i got no answer to this question , i did not think i would , i first noticed nine years ago that the contrails off aeroplanes were not dissipating over dublin,they use to disappear very quickly , i have heard nothing from the media about this but of course we do not have a free media here in ireland .


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  • #61
    hoser expat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭hoser expat


    espinolman wrote: »
    I see i got no answer to this question , i did not think i would , i first noticed nine years ago that the contrails off aeroplanes were not dissipating over dublin,they use to disappear very quickly , i have heard nothing from the media about this but of course we do not have a free media here in ireland .

    I generally don't respond to people who believe in conspiracy theories, as they mainly only hear what they want to hear.


  • #62
    espinolman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    hoser expat wrote: »
    I generally don't respond to people who believe in conspiracy theories, as they mainly only hear what they want to hear.

    I don't want to see chemtrails , i never asked for them.


  • #63
    espinolman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    hoser expat wrote: »
    I generally don't respond to people who believe in conspiracy theories, as they mainly only hear what they want to hear.
    Don't respond then , keep your nose up in your ivory tower.


  • #64
    jman0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 731 ✭✭✭jman0


    A question for the Global Warming "skeptics".
    I'm not going to read through this entire thread, however I understand some of the "skeptics" argue against C02's role as a greenhouse gas.

    I'd like to hear if they've any explanations for this:
    Planet Venus, our sister planet.
    Atmosphere: 95% Co2
    Surface Temp: 460C
    Which makes it hotter than planet Mercury, despite that Mercury sits far closer to the sun, and always has the same face pointed at it.
    Explanations for Venus' temps?


  • #65
    djpbarry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    jman0 wrote: »
    Explanations for Venus' temps?
    Venus has fewer pirates?


  • #66
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    djpbarry wrote: »
    Venus has fewer pirates?

    Not only that but they also have a large numbers of anti-pirates. These contribute significantly to raising temprature, especially if they happen to come into direct contact with one of the few remaining pirates. Thence* ensues a mighty battle which releases vast quantities of heat and C02 into the atmosphere.

    * It's a real word, I swear


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  • #67
    derry
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    jman0 wrote: »
    A question for the Global Warming "skeptics".
    I'm not going to read through this entire thread, however I understand some of the "skeptics" argue against C02's role as a greenhouse gas.

    I'd like to hear if they've any explanations for this:
    Planet Venus, our sister planet.
    Atmosphere: 95% Co2
    Surface Temp: 460C
    Which makes it hotter than planet Mercury, despite that Mercury sits far closer to the sun, and always has the same face pointed at it.
    Explanations for Venus' temps?

    I ant no expert on Venus or mars other than venus is for love and mars is for war in the olden days:D must have heard of that other species woman

    just kidding .Really there is lots of astronomy forums that can tell you that info for venus

    Mars atmoshere is predominatly CO2 as well and its freezing nearly close to ~0 degrees kelvin or ~ -250 C and in the day very hot ~50 C fom what I recall
    The Mars polar cap there is melting from global warming something to do with martians life forms and thier farting a methane gas a big global warming gas worse than CO2 and this is green housing the martins and is going to cook thier goose also

    So I soppose we can declare Venus the winner in getting to CO2 green house runaway effect first but I figure a head start of being much closer to the heat source the sun helps to cook your goose sooner

    The sckeptics here like me say there might be global warming but its unlikely man is the reason so if the sun is out to cook our goose well it might take a few hundred thousand years or maybe even a few million years

    The average in between iceages is 100,000 years with 20,000 warm years in between so the cooling and heating time spans tend to be very very long

    More chance to be hit by a bus than have your goose cooked on planet earth from GW from CO2:pac::pac::pac:





    Derry


  • #68
    bonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    derry wrote: »
    Mars atmoshere is predominatly CO2 as well and its freezing nearly close to ~0 degrees kelvin or ~ -250 C and in the day very hot ~50 C fom what I recall

    Its temps range from about -150C to +30C...with the lowest figure being in the depths of polar winter. "Normal" nighttime temps there are about -80C.

    So nowhere near 0K.
    So I soppose we can declare Venus the winner in getting to CO2 green house runaway effect first but I figure a head start of being much closer to the heat source the sun helps to cook your goose sooner
    Being 2x closer to the sun gives Venus 4x the energy-by-area that Mars gets.

    On the other hand, Venus' atmospheric density is some 90 times that of earth, while that of Mars is over 100 times less....meaning Venus has somewhere around 10,000 times the atmospheric density of Mars.
    The sckeptics here like me say there might be global warming but its unlikely man is the reason so if the sun is out to cook our goose well it might take a few hundred thousand years or maybe even a few million years
    Why do you keep misrepresenting the science of Global Warming as being about "cooking our goose"?
    More chance to be hit by a bus than have your goose cooked on planet earth from GW from CO2:pac::pac::pac:
    See...there you go....doing it again.

    Its almost as though you don't actually know what the predictions regarding Global Warming are...


  • #69
    Húrin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Húrin


    bonkey wrote: »
    Why do you keep misrepresenting the science of Global Warming as being about "cooking our goose"?

    This phrase will be eliminated by memetic selection. I should know, Richard Dawkins told me on the phone last night.


  • #70
    derry
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    hoser expat wrote: »
    hey guys, for an intelligent debate involving people who actually know what they are talking about, please visit www.realclimate.org


    If you claim to be in climate science feild then this reference is a pigs ear

    Starting with "real" that sucks and is a no brainer flag that these guys are not there to inform the whole story but only thier one sided case

    They might as well set up a sight called we only believe that man makes all global warming issues and will do everthing possible to prove it weather it true or not

    That is the crappiest pro Mann hockey stick site on the planet and sure helps that Al Gore is a billionare to keep his pet projects bubbling along

    Derry


  • #71
    djpbarry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    derry wrote: »
    ...this reference is a pigs ear
    That's pretty rich, coming from you.


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  • #72
    derry
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    djpbarry wrote: »
    That's pretty rich, coming from you.

    That so and so hoser expat claims to be Climate scientist and that all climate scientists vote in favour of the CO2 GW Climate change is entirely the fault of mankind

    As soon as any real debate shows him up as a cult following brainwashed believer in CO2 GW Climate change from mankind he not only decides to quit debating here on boards he decided that he will try to get everybody else to vacate to his favorite site.That's his Nirvana site where he can surround himself with other cult believer's and pretend the bad dream here in boards which us irish come to and where he got shaken in his belief system was all just a bad dream and the USA can save him

    pigs ear is low level rebuff to this invitation to change to his football grounds so to speak but if you want to up the anti on his behalf I can say worse like stand his ground and debate same as the rest of us

    There is only like a hard core of maybe 20 plus in this forum so what is he so scared of

    Best I can see he is the only one here who is paid to study the subject if his claims are true or maybe hoser expat is just a cyber bot

    BOOO


    Derry


  • #73
    djpbarry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    derry wrote: »
    As soon as any real debate shows him up as a cult following brainwashed believer in CO2 GW Climate change from mankind...
    Real debate? I must have missed that. A debate usually involves a discussion in which reasons are advanced for and against some proposition or proposal. Reason is something that has been distinctly lacking from your posts.


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